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MCR1 | didrocks: Hi. Short question: How many viewports/workspaces does Ubuntu/Unity support (I remember reading something about 6 in the code, but am not sure) ? | 08:41 |
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didrocks | MCR1: nothing hardcoded, can be whatever value you want | 08:41 |
seb128 | MCR1, I don't think there is a limitation? | 08:41 |
MCR1 | ok, thx 4 the info | 08:41 |
MCR1 | seb128: I am not sure, but flying over the code I read something about 6 or so, so I thought I'd better ask - 4 are default, yes ? | 08:42 |
seb128 | MCR1, 4 are default yes | 08:43 |
MCR1 | seb128: Thx. & thx 4 your comment on my reduce-png-filesizes merge proposal... :) | 08:45 |
seb128 | MCR1, yw ;-) | 08:45 |
MCR1 | Another question: Could someone approve me here: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design/+members#proposed | 08:46 |
MCR1 | ? | 08:46 |
seb128 | MCR1, seems like dbarth is admin for that team and he's on holidays until the end of week, might have to wait for monday... | 08:50 |
MCR1 | seb128: Ok, thx. Np. | 08:52 |
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apw | are we aware of some indicator menus having bad colours ? | 10:14 |
apw | (in quantal tip) | 10:14 |
elky | so uh, unity's doing a different weird thing now. I currently have 5 iconless (box with a ? instead) launchers empty progress bars. none are clickable. | 10:46 |
elky | s/empty/with empty/ | 10:46 |
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me4oslav | Somevody feeling like taking care of this MR? https://code.launchpad.net/~kokoto-java/unity/images-patch-for-Dash-sheen-and-launcher-icon-borders/+merge/114615 kamstrup maybe? ^-^ | 11:52 |
kamstrup | me4oslav: it's interesting definitely - but it'd require buy-in from design I guess | 11:54 |
kamstrup | me4oslav: at the very least there need to be screenshots of before/after in the review | 11:54 |
me4oslav | kamstrup, well if you can talk with some design folk to review it it will be great :) P.S. Uploading screenshots as I write this | 11:55 |
me4oslav | kamstup, there uploaded before/after screenies :) andyrock - there should be a bug to make a change? Hmm? | 12:00 |
andyrock | me4oslav, it's a visual change :) we need design feedback | 12:01 |
me4oslav | andyrock :) I know that, but I don't know any design folk, feel free to talk to them about it :) | 12:03 |
popey | me4oslav, if you open a bug then we can assign a task for the design team to look at it when they get time | 12:04 |
andyrock | me4oslav, do you have the before/after screenshot? | 12:04 |
me4oslav | andyrock ;- Yes, I did added before/after screenies as a comment. popey - fair enough, will do :) (two bugs reports, cuz the MR affects two things) | 12:06 |
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me4oslav | andyrock popey there - bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1023879 https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1023885 | 13:00 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1023879 in unity "Launcher icons borders are jagged" [Undecided,New] | 13:00 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1023885 in unity "Dash sheen could you some improvements" [Undecided,New] | 13:00 |
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MCR1 | smspillaz: Hi :) I've setup a virtual Quantal machine to help testing your PPA, but it is no fun with this thingie as it is slow as ****. I've seen Daniel and you still have some open GLES reports, so I guess my help with writing more bugreports is not essential @ the moment - am I correct ? | 18:25 |
magcius | mterry, ping | 18:37 |
mterry | magcius, yo | 18:37 |
magcius | mterry, hey, I see you maintain libtimezonemap along with ev -- not sure where to find him | 18:38 |
magcius | mterry, so, the Anaconda guys at Red Hat want to use the timezone map, and I do too. How would you feel about making it a shared library? | 18:40 |
mterry | magcius, sure. That's basically what libtimezonemap is. We tried to do that earlier, I think there are some emails on the gnome-control-center list about it. But nothing ever came of it | 18:43 |
mterry | So we just made libtimezonemap in order to at least only have one copy on the Ubuntu side | 18:43 |
mterry | magcius, is libtimezonemap not sufficient? Like, you want it split even further out? | 18:45 |
magcius | mterry, isn't it just a silly shared library right now? | 18:45 |
mterry | magcius, how do you mean? | 18:46 |
mterry | magcius, it's a shared library right now. It's silliness depends on your point of view I guess :) | 18:46 |
magcius | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~timezonemap-team/timezonemap/trunk/view/head:/README | 18:46 |
mterry | magcius, that's slightly out of date. Did you mean to say "silly static library" before? | 18:47 |
mterry | It's actually a shared library | 18:48 |
magcius | er | 18:48 |
magcius | yes | 18:48 |
mterry | And it has a bit more code than gnome-control-center does, to support grabbing timezone names in a GtkEntryCompletion thing | 18:48 |
mterry | but the core of it is pretty similar to gnome-control-center's copy still | 18:48 |
magcius | mterry, we have that too -- there's a libgweather thing | 18:49 |
magcius | It's great, because we have libgweather, we have tz.c ripped from Anaconda, we have GTimeZone in glib, and we have Ubiquity. | 18:49 |
mterry | magcius, yup. We also use it in our time preference panel | 18:49 |
magcius | mterry, do you know if the source for the geoname lookup server is available? We can't depend on Ubuntu infrastructure. | 18:50 |
magcius | Ah: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames | 18:50 |
mterry | magcius, sure. So we could either make the "lookup name" bits plug-able or... I think the lookup server code is public... Let me see if I cna find the branch | 18:50 |
mterry | yup | 18:50 |
magcius | mterry, (also, the Anaconda team can't use that because they don't have network at that time) | 18:51 |
* magcius stares at the words "mod_python", backs away | 18:51 | |
mterry | magcius, I recall the code we use has a fallback for not connecting to the network | 18:51 |
magcius | Your infrastructure *really* shouldn't be depending on mod_python. | 18:51 |
mterry | magcius, ::shrug:: don't know about that side of things | 18:51 |
magcius | Yeah. | 18:52 |
mterry | magcius, it uses GTimeZone or something like that, but those names are awful | 18:52 |
magcius | mterry, libgweather ships a timezone database | 18:52 |
magcius | GTimeZone doesn't parse zoneinfo.tab, which is required. | 18:53 |
mterry | magcius, yes... I remember one beef we had with that was that it lacked population data? Not that the fallback we use has it either... | 18:53 |
magcius | (To paint the pin on the map properly) | 18:53 |
mterry | magcius, honestly I don't recall off the top of my head what our fallback is, but it's not libgweather | 18:53 |
mterry | Though it could be. No reason not to use it, except our primary case was with-internet | 18:53 |
magcius | Right. | 18:54 |
mterry | magcius, but that's not even the map. The library has map + completion code. You're at least interested in the map. And ideally the completion code could be massaged into something we could share | 18:54 |
magcius | The completion code would be nice, too | 18:55 |
mterry | magcius, one problem I recall is that the png files that make up the map are generated by a giant map some Canonical artist uses to generate them. Which isn't shipped in the tarball. I'm not even sure who to ping to get it. I think they only need to be updated when timezones change a lot, but that does happen | 18:56 |
mterry | I can try to find out about the map | 18:56 |
magcius | mterry, right, there was a potential political legal issue, but I think our lawyer cleared that | 18:56 |
mterry | magcius, regarding timezones or the map source? | 18:56 |
magcius | political boundaries represented on the map source | 18:57 |
mterry | Ah yes, always tricky. :) | 18:57 |
magcius | mterry, it would be nice to have the infrastructure and source there | 18:57 |
mterry | magcius, so what would you need to be able to use it? I think we have a tarball sitting in LP? | 18:58 |
magcius | pkg-config file, if one doesn't already exist | 18:59 |
mterry | magcius, our goal was to allow GNOME to use it, which would involve it being on GNOME infra, but we never got that far | 18:59 |
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magcius | mterry, if you want me to take it upstream, I probably can | 18:59 |
mterry | It must have one, if it's a shared library... Let me see | 18:59 |
magcius | It does. | 19:00 |
mterry | magcius, yeah, that would be great. I never got far, but don't know if that was politics or people just being too busy | 19:00 |
magcius | It was in the src/ folder for some reason. | 19:00 |
mterry | k | 19:00 |
magcius | mterry, I'm going to start by diffing the copies in g-c-c, that repo, and anaconda, and see if there are any major differences | 19:00 |
mterry | magcius, OK. Hopefully I'll be able to tell you whether they were intentional or not. :) And of course the completion code is whole-cloth new | 19:01 |
magcius | mterry, "they were intentional"? | 19:01 |
mterry | magcius, well, I mean, whether they were changes we made or changes that g-c-c made (i.e. which side of the fork you're on) | 19:02 |
mterry | I'm asking ev (who usually hangs out in #ubuntu-installer) about the map source | 19:03 |
magcius | OK. | 19:03 |
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magcius | mterry, https://live.gnome.org/LibGWeather/UseGeoNames | 19:46 |
mterry | nice | 19:47 |
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