[08:41] <MCR1> didrocks: Hi. Short question: How many viewports/workspaces does Ubuntu/Unity support (I remember reading something about 6 in the code, but am not sure) ?
[08:41] <didrocks> MCR1: nothing hardcoded, can be whatever value you want
[08:41] <seb128> MCR1, I don't think there is a limitation?
[08:41] <MCR1> ok, thx 4 the info
[08:42] <MCR1> seb128: I am not sure, but flying over the code I read something about 6 or so, so I thought I'd better ask - 4 are default, yes ?
[08:43] <seb128> MCR1, 4 are default yes
[08:45] <MCR1> seb128: Thx. & thx 4 your comment on my reduce-png-filesizes merge proposal... :)
[08:45] <seb128> MCR1, yw ;-)
[08:46] <MCR1> Another question: Could someone approve me here: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design/+members#proposed
[08:46] <MCR1> ?
[08:50] <seb128> MCR1, seems like dbarth is admin for that team and he's on holidays until the end of week, might have to wait for monday...
[08:52] <MCR1> seb128: Ok, thx. Np.
[10:14] <apw> are we aware of some indicator menus having bad colours ?
[10:14] <apw> (in quantal tip)
[10:46] <elky> so uh, unity's doing a different weird thing now. I currently have 5 iconless (box with a ? instead) launchers empty progress bars. none are clickable.
[10:46] <elky> s/empty/with empty/
[11:52] <me4oslav> Somevody feeling like taking care of this MR? https://code.launchpad.net/~kokoto-java/unity/images-patch-for-Dash-sheen-and-launcher-icon-borders/+merge/114615 kamstrup maybe? ^-^
[11:54] <kamstrup> me4oslav: it's interesting definitely - but it'd require buy-in from design I guess
[11:54] <kamstrup> me4oslav: at the very least there need to be screenshots of before/after in the review
[11:55] <me4oslav> kamstrup, well if you can talk with some design folk to review it it will be great :) P.S. Uploading screenshots as I write this
[12:00] <me4oslav> kamstup, there uploaded before/after screenies :) andyrock - there should be a bug to make a change? Hmm?
[12:01] <andyrock> me4oslav, it's a visual change :) we need design feedback
[12:03] <me4oslav> andyrock :) I know that, but I don't know any design folk, feel free to talk to them about it :)
[12:04] <popey> me4oslav, if you open a bug then we can assign a task for the design team to look at it when they get time
[12:04] <andyrock> me4oslav, do you have the before/after screenshot?
[12:06] <me4oslav> andyrock ;- Yes, I did added before/after screenies as a comment. popey - fair enough, will do :) (two bugs reports, cuz the MR affects two things)
[13:00] <me4oslav> andyrock popey there - bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1023879 https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1023885
[18:25] <MCR1> smspillaz: Hi :) I've setup a virtual Quantal machine to help testing your PPA, but it is no fun with this thingie as it is slow as ****. I've seen Daniel and you still have some open GLES reports, so I guess my help with writing more bugreports is not essential @ the moment - am I correct ?
[18:37] <magcius> mterry, ping
[18:37] <mterry> magcius, yo
[18:38] <magcius> mterry, hey, I see you maintain libtimezonemap along with ev -- not sure where to find him
[18:40] <magcius> mterry, so, the Anaconda guys at Red Hat want to use the timezone map, and I do too. How would you feel about making it a shared library?
[18:43] <mterry> magcius, sure.  That's basically what libtimezonemap is.  We tried to do that earlier, I think there are some emails on the gnome-control-center list about it.  But nothing ever came of it
[18:43] <mterry> So we just made libtimezonemap in order to at least only have one copy on the Ubuntu side
[18:45] <mterry> magcius, is libtimezonemap not sufficient?  Like, you want it split even further out?
[18:45] <magcius> mterry, isn't it just a silly shared library right now?
[18:46] <mterry> magcius, how do you mean?
[18:46] <mterry> magcius, it's a shared library right now.  It's silliness depends on your point of view I guess  :)
[18:46] <magcius> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~timezonemap-team/timezonemap/trunk/view/head:/README
[18:47] <mterry> magcius, that's slightly out of date.  Did you mean to say "silly static library" before?
[18:48] <mterry> It's actually a shared library
[18:48] <magcius> er
[18:48] <magcius> yes
[18:48] <mterry> And it has a bit more code than gnome-control-center does, to support grabbing timezone names in a GtkEntryCompletion thing
[18:48] <mterry> but the core of it is pretty similar to gnome-control-center's copy still
[18:49] <magcius> mterry, we have that too -- there's a libgweather thing
[18:49] <magcius> It's great, because we have libgweather, we have tz.c ripped from Anaconda, we have GTimeZone in glib, and we have Ubiquity.
[18:49] <mterry> magcius, yup.  We also use it in our time preference panel
[18:50] <magcius> mterry, do you know if the source for the geoname lookup server is available? We can't depend on Ubuntu infrastructure.
[18:50] <magcius> Ah: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames
[18:50] <mterry> magcius, sure.  So we could either make the "lookup name" bits plug-able or...  I think the lookup server code is public...  Let me see if I cna find the branch
[18:50] <mterry> yup
[18:51] <magcius> mterry, (also, the Anaconda team can't use that because they don't have network at that time)
[18:51]  * magcius stares at the words "mod_python", backs away
[18:51] <mterry> magcius, I recall the code we use has a fallback for not connecting to the network
[18:51] <magcius> Your infrastructure *really* shouldn't be depending on mod_python.
[18:51] <mterry> magcius, ::shrug:: don't know about that side of things
[18:52] <magcius> Yeah.
[18:52] <mterry> magcius, it uses GTimeZone or something like that, but those names are awful
[18:52] <magcius> mterry, libgweather ships a timezone database
[18:53] <magcius> GTimeZone doesn't parse zoneinfo.tab, which is required.
[18:53] <mterry> magcius, yes...  I remember one beef we had with that was that it lacked population data?  Not that the fallback we use has it either...
[18:53] <magcius> (To paint the pin on the map properly)
[18:53] <mterry> magcius, honestly I don't recall off the top of my head what our fallback is, but it's not libgweather
[18:53] <mterry> Though it could be.  No reason not to use it, except our primary case was with-internet
[18:54] <magcius> Right.
[18:54] <mterry> magcius, but that's not even the map.  The library has map + completion code.  You're at least interested in the map.  And ideally the completion code could be massaged into something we could share
[18:55] <magcius> The completion code would be nice, too
[18:56] <mterry> magcius, one problem I recall is that the png files that make up the map are generated by a giant map some Canonical artist uses to generate them.  Which isn't shipped in the tarball.  I'm not even sure who to ping to get it.  I think they only need to be updated when timezones change a lot, but that does happen
[18:56] <mterry> I can try to find out about the map
[18:56] <magcius> mterry, right, there was a potential political legal issue, but I think our lawyer cleared that
[18:56] <mterry> magcius, regarding timezones or the map source?
[18:57] <magcius> political boundaries represented on the map source
[18:57] <mterry> Ah yes, always tricky.  :)
[18:57] <magcius> mterry, it would be nice to have the infrastructure and source there
[18:58] <mterry> magcius, so what would you need to be able to use it?  I think we have a tarball sitting in LP?
[18:59] <magcius> pkg-config file, if one doesn't already exist
[18:59] <mterry> magcius, our goal was to allow GNOME to use it, which would involve it being on GNOME infra, but we never got that far
[18:59] <magcius> mterry, if you want me to take it upstream, I probably can
[18:59] <mterry> It must have one, if it's a shared library...  Let me see
[19:00] <magcius> It does.
[19:00] <mterry> magcius, yeah, that would be great.  I never got far, but don't know if that was politics or people just being too busy
[19:00] <magcius> It was in the src/ folder for some reason.
[19:00] <mterry> k
[19:00] <magcius> mterry, I'm going to start by diffing the copies in g-c-c, that repo, and anaconda, and see if there are any major differences
[19:01] <mterry> magcius, OK.  Hopefully I'll be able to tell you whether they were intentional or not.  :)  And of course the completion code is whole-cloth new
[19:01] <magcius> mterry, "they were intentional"?
[19:02] <mterry> magcius, well, I mean, whether they were changes we made or changes that g-c-c made (i.e. which side of the fork you're on)
[19:03] <mterry> I'm asking ev (who usually hangs out in #ubuntu-installer) about the map source
[19:03] <magcius> OK.
[19:46] <magcius> mterry, https://live.gnome.org/LibGWeather/UseGeoNames
[19:47] <mterry> nice