[00:55] <pleia2> SF Ubuntu Hour \o/
[01:18] <pleia2> 2 of us here, a summer :)
[01:23] <akk> I wish precise would quit hanging when I suspend with my android device attached to USB. I keep coming back to find it's been on all day in some kind of intermediate nonresponsive but power-using state.
[01:23] <pleia2> that's unpleasant :(
[01:24] <akk> Pretty sure it didn't do it under oneiric, though I have admittedly also changed the USB hub.
[02:40] <bkerensa> Cool?
[02:40] <bkerensa> Its hot here
[03:35] <philipballew_> bkerensa, its in the 80's though?
[03:35] <akk> Was very hot here, definitely needed the A/C.
[03:36] <philipballew_> 110 here
[03:36] <akk> A/C is air conditioning, AC is alternating current, right? I'm always wanting to add the slash on the current one, not sure why either one has a slash.
[03:36] <philipballew_> and now theres a forest fire about 15 miles away. I wonder is there is a proper way for either one.
[03:37] <akk> Only got to 87 here, turns out. It felt a lot hotter than that.
[03:38] <akk> Really got to 110 down there? Ouch.
[03:39] <philipballew_> In Auburn now.
[03:39] <philipballew_> Its a killer in the foothills here
[03:40] <philipballew_> Auburn is east of Sacramento off 80.
[03:43] <philipballew_> sometimes akk I think the wind can help make it feel cooler then it is.
[03:45] <akk> And "it's a dry heat", and all that.
[03:45] <akk> (It's still a lot of heat!)
[03:45] <akk> If Auburn is 110 I hate to think what Sac got to, down in the flatlands
[03:46]  * MarkDude hates to go to Sac, anytime of year :D
[03:46] <akk> Me too, MarkDude
[03:46] <akk> That's why I quit autocrossing, too many weekends wasted driving to/from Sac.
[03:47] <philipballew_> yeah, every time I ever go there akk I feel like the temp rises 15 degrees
[03:47] <akk> Auburn at least has scenery to take your mind off the heat. :)
[03:47]  * DonkeyHotei is in Sac, where it was 100° today
[03:48] <philipballew_> Indeed. I was going to go to the river tomorrow to get some cool water. Not now that theres a fire there....
[03:49] <philipballew_> DonkeyHotei makes the sf to sac trip all to often it seems.
[03:49] <DonkeyHotei> couldn't be helped
[03:50] <philipballew_> Lately when I go to sf from sac I take the fast. Its like 9 dollars to get to the bart
[03:51] <DonkeyHotei> the fast?
[03:51] <akk> I've never taken the train -- it seems like it would be a great solution, except its hours are so limited (and poor connections at the ends).
[03:52] <MarkDude> :)
[03:53] <DonkeyHotei> what's "the fast" ?
[03:53] <philipballew_> DonkeyHotei, fast is Fairfield and Sasuin transit. you take the route 30 from the capitol to the fairfield transit center and pict up route 90 that takes you to el cereito
[03:53] <philipballew_> or however you spell these cities
[03:54] <philipballew_> Its a fairly good deal DonkeyHotei
[03:54] <philipballew_> http://www.fasttransit.org/
[03:54] <darthrobot> Title: [Error reading title]
[03:56] <akk> It's a bus?
[03:56] <DonkeyHotei> sounds like a full day's ride
[03:57] <DonkeyHotei> do they take the clipper card?
[03:57] <akk> How long does it take?
[03:59] <philipballew_> DonkeyHotei, Its not a full day if you pick up the express to fairfelt at 7:05 am
[03:59] <philipballew_> *Fairfield
[03:59] <philipballew_> they dont currently, but are working towards the clipper capt
[03:59] <philipballew_> *card
[04:00] <philipballew_> new keyboard...
[04:00] <philipballew_> It takes like an hour and a half iirc akk
[04:00] <philipballew_> but its cheap
[04:01] <akk> An hour and a half? Takes me over 2 hrs to drive there. (From the south bay.)
[04:02] <philipballew_> well this is east bay
[04:02] <akk> Ah, I thought it was from SF (closer than SJ, of course, but also takes forever to get out of there and through Berkeley).
[04:03] <philipballew_> I picked it up across the street from the capitol and was at the Powell bart at 9:45
[04:03] <DonkeyHotei> sounds very not worth it
[04:05] <philipballew_> its not for the faint of heart
[04:05] <philipballew_> or someone who enjoys being fast
[04:05] <DonkeyHotei> why bother?
[04:06] <DonkeyHotei> greyhound is much quicker and much less hassle
[04:06] <philipballew_> Its cheaper is all
[04:06] <DonkeyHotei> roundtrip ticket on greyhound is $20
[04:07] <philipballew_> true.
[04:07] <philipballew_> Just an option I have used before
[05:51] <philipballew_> bkerensa, anything you need me to bring?
[05:52] <bkerensa> philipballew_: not that I can think of
[05:53] <philipballew_> Alright, just making sure bkerensa
[05:54] <bkerensa> philipballew_: yeah :) I think your going to get lots of booth time
[05:55] <bkerensa> :D
[05:57]  * MarkDude hopes bkerensa is at booth enough time to allow proper trolling
[05:57] <MarkDude> Getting Phil is not the same
[05:57]  * bkerensa will ignore said trolling ;)
[05:58] <philipballew_> Sounds good. the only time I know I cant be there is sometime Tuesday me and jono are going over community accomplishments.
[05:58] <philipballew_> MarkDude, dont worry, I will be the only one at the booth sometimes and will "Look the other way"
[05:58] <bkerensa> philipballew_: good luck with that unless he has it on a calendar :P
[05:58] <philipballew_> he does
[05:58] <MarkDude> Its not like that
[05:58] <bkerensa> getting 1 on 1 time with him at OSCON is like getting ice cones in the Sahara
[05:58] <bkerensa> :D
[05:58] <philipballew_> He requested the meeting :)
[05:59] <philipballew_> If I dont Ill just take himn to coffee sometime later
[05:59] <MarkDude> Did he hear the Dark Side of the Force is luring you with cookies?
[05:59] <philipballew_> Hes only like 130 miles from where I live
[05:59] <bkerensa> philipballew_: Block out MarkDude's attempts to recruit you to Fedora ;)
[05:59] <MarkDude> 10 from me
[06:00] <MarkDude> lol
[06:00] <MarkDude> He is safe, The Princess has a Force field around him
[06:00] <bkerensa> In Salem last weekend a Fedora user asked me for selling points on switching to Ubuntu... I totally convinced him and he replaced Fedora on the spot ;p
[06:00] <MarkDude> ok
[06:00] <MarkDude> Well F17 sorta sucks
[06:01] <MarkDude> So that can be an easy sell
[06:01] <MarkDude> Did you start with hey, this is a bit less crappy?
[06:01] <MarkDude> :D
[06:01] <MarkDude> He was like cool, way less turdy
[06:01]  * MarkDude kids due to his being a kidder
[06:02] <philipballew_> bkerensa, What do I do when MarkDude says install fedora or I kick you out?
[06:02] <bkerensa> :P I will not tell the selling points MarkDude because they would be on ITWorld tomorrow
[06:02] <bkerensa> ;p
[06:02] <MarkDude> Honestly tho, was your first answer- well we DONT have Gnome 3- that crap Linus hates
[06:02] <bkerensa> philipballew_: You have to refuse and hitch hike home :)
[06:02] <MarkDude> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzing bkerensa
[06:03] <bkerensa> maybe sabdfl can give you a lift in his jet
[06:03] <bkerensa> :D
[06:03] <philipballew_> Ill parachute out
[06:03] <MarkDude> Take it up with your tattoo's sake.
[06:04] <philipballew_> are we busy in the evenings?
[06:05] <bkerensa> MarkDude: I should make a mastercard spoof ad... "Cost to make Fedora appear to have a local community in 2012 $35,000" "Cost to buy a booth bigger than all other distros $10,000" "Getting to wear a Red Hat... Priceless" for everything else theres Mastercard
[06:05] <bkerensa> ;p
[06:05] <MarkDude> Sure
[06:05] <bkerensa> philipballew_: Hmm no just during expo hours... I will likely go to some parties and dinner during OSCOn
[06:05] <MarkDude> Fedora did NOT pay for the booth
[06:05] <MarkDude> it was Given to us
[06:05] <MarkDude> Parties are fun there
[06:06] <philipballew_> cause one evening I am having dinner with a friend from school, I plan to eat free there somewhat
[06:06] <MarkDude> and some can be Epic
[06:06] <bkerensa> MarkDude: the wiki says it was "paid for"
[06:06] <bkerensa> and if it was thats a $10k booth because PuppetLabs balked at the price last year
[06:06] <bkerensa> :D
[06:06]  * MarkDude did that wiki entry
[06:06] <MarkDude> read history
[06:06] <bkerensa> hmm
[06:07] <bkerensa> your booth is not in the Non Profit or Project Pavillion though? Its in a paid booth area
[06:07] <MarkDude> The intent of that wiki is not as much public, as in used to organize
[06:07] <philipballew_> dont worry bkerensa Ill replace all MarkDude 's fedora cd's with Ubuntu cd's!!!
[06:07] <MarkDude> and use it for folks to plan, and to approve budgets
[06:08] <bkerensa> philipballew_: :P nah they would burn them :)
[06:15] <MarkDude> Actually bkerensa did you ever hear the story about the guy that burned an Ubuntu CD on Fedora's Planet?
[06:15] <bkerensa> huh
[06:15] <bkerensa> nope
[06:15] <MarkDude> It picks up blog feeds
[06:16] <bkerensa> yes I know
[06:16] <MarkDude> Said for others in case they did not know :)
[06:16] <MarkDude> I know you know stuff
[06:17] <MarkDude> And this guy had this *mildly funny* point about proprietary software
[06:17] <MarkDude> and chose to take it to extreme and burn a cd, take pics and say some crap like be gone you demons-
[06:17] <MarkDude> or suthin equally stupid
[06:18] <MarkDude> So there was a quick unofficial meeting in Ambadassadors, and he was asked to remove it on his own
[06:19] <MarkDude> Or there would be some formal action. He was told to apologize for it (and did)
[06:19] <MarkDude> all within 12 hours
[06:19] <MarkDude> Right after this- I was helping Berkeley LUG (Jack's group) at Solano Stroll
[06:20] <MarkDude> I got in the middle of the crowd, and in my best Southern preacher accent, I asked everyone- WHO among you has evil proprietary software? Do you have Windows?
[06:21] <MarkDude> Then I wil heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaal your computer with this beautiful software
[06:22] <MarkDude> Believe in the power of Ubuuuuuuntu!
[06:22] <MarkDude> ALL of that a true story
[06:22] <MarkDude> Jack gets nervous now if I say I am gonna help out at events
[06:22] <MarkDude> I dont think he knew about the earlier stuff :D
[17:48] <pleia2> epikvision: did you change your email address? (been getting bounces from you lately on UWN summaries)
[17:48] <pleia2> took you off for now, kept forgetting to ask :)
[20:27] <philipballew_> Hello California!
[21:23] <epikvision> California, rise and shine!
[21:24] <philipballew_> its 230
[21:33] <epikvision> still :P