[11:11] <snap-l> Good morning
[11:36] <rick_h_> party
[11:36] <brousch> on
[11:37] <snap-l> wayne
[11:49] <greg-g> party on garth
[11:49] <rick_h_> Hey, someone is up early :P
[11:50] <brousch> Whoa, crazy
[11:50] <brousch> Isn't it like 3AM for greg-g?
[11:50] <snap-l> more like going on 4AM, but still...
[11:53] <brousch> Ah, West MI strikes again http://idle.slashdot.org/story/12/07/11/2045209/holy-ipad-slayer-company-releases-worlds-first-christian-tablet
[11:54] <greg-g> I'm in DC right now :)
[11:54] <brousch> OSCON?
[11:56] <brousch> No, wait, that is Portland
[11:56] <brousch> and next week
[11:56] <rick_h_> I'm jealous!
[11:57] <rick_h_> greg-g: send me portland pics pls!
[11:57] <rick_h_> help me feel cooler
[12:15] <shakes808> morning
[12:15] <rick_h_> morning
[12:44] <jrwren> wtf, holy ipad slayer???? i shall not click that link. :)
[12:44] <jrwren> portland!
[12:44] <jrwren> i'm jealous too. I want to live in portlandia
[12:44] <rick_h_> jrwren: let's hide in greg-g's bags
[12:44] <rick_h_> greg-g: get your luggage through dtw plese
[12:45] <jrwren> hehehe
[12:45] <jrwren> rick_h_: lets take 2 or 3 weeks and bike there. that would be the portlandish thing to do.
[12:45] <rick_h_> oooh, true. I don't think I'd make it to GR...but good call
[12:49] <brousch> Funny you mention that. One hard-core biker at my wife's work planned to bike Route 66 this summer. He planned for bears, wolves, etc. He made it to the Indiana/Illinois border when his campsite was destroyed by a pack of racoons in a thunderstorm
[12:50] <rick_h_> sorry...but...lamo!
[12:51] <brousch> Crazy
[12:57] <brousch> I think had $1500 in super light camping gear
[13:00] <jrwren> yeah, that is pretty lame.
[13:01] <jrwren> my excoworker biked across the USA last summer. pacific to atlantic.
[13:01] <jrwren> http://www.annarbor.com/news/rolling-across-the-country/
[13:01] <jrwren> portland to dc.
[13:02] <jrwren> hrm... seems like going from test best place on earth to the worst.
[13:09] <greg-g> rick_h_: :) will do
[13:10] <greg-g> heh, yeah, DC isn't nice. :) Here for Wikimania (and I was at a couple other things since tuesday, presented yesterday, presenting again today)
[13:16] <snap-l> What the hell is wrong with you people wanting to move to portland?
[13:19] <brousch> It's right by a frickin volcano
[13:20] <snap-l> Let's put things in perspective
[13:20] <snap-l> IT HAS FUCKING HIPPIES ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLACE
[13:24] <brousch> You yell that like it is a bad thing
[13:31] <snap-l> IT IS
[13:34] <jrwren> hippies are really nice to live around
[13:34] <jrwren> and they tollerate me being the industrial electronic wears-too-much-black on the block
[13:40] <brousch> Damn, that was too easy
[13:40] <brousch> Python->Pyjamas->PhoneGap basically just works
[13:40] <rick_h_> coolness
[13:41] <brousch> I was expecting more fiddling
[13:41] <nullspace> so I'm playing with a python script and having issues http://paste2.org/p/2071220
[13:42] <nullspace> I don't know why it's complaining about the strings I assinged
[13:45] <brousch> I get an error on line,match
[13:46] <nullspace> my errors are on 3 - yahoo: command not found, 4 - ours: command not found, 6- syntax error near unexpected token '('
[13:47] <jrwren> quote your regex?
[13:47] <brousch> Are you running it under bash instead of python?
[13:47] <snap-l> brousch: ++
[13:47] <nullspace> brousch: I just figured that out rigth before you said it
[13:47] <nullspace> herp derp
[13:48] <snap-l> bash is a harsh mistress. ;)
[13:48] <brousch> Good morning!
[13:50] <jrwren> lol
[13:50] <jrwren> #!/usr/bin/env python
[13:50] <jrwren> ^^ FFS!
[14:08] <nullspace> now it's complainign about he yfile.close()
[14:08] <nullspace> http://paste2.org/p/2071246
[14:09] <rick_h_> change that to: with open(yahoo) as yfile:
[14:09] <rick_h_> and tab in the rest of that line
[14:09] <jrwren> or just don't bother closing it.
[14:09] <jrwren> it will close when the script ends.
[14:09] <rick_h_> http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/contextlib/
[14:11] <snap-l> speaking of Yahoo, apparently there was a breach
[14:11] <brousch> indeed
[14:11] <brousch> Can we blame YUI?
[14:12] <snap-l> Blame Yahoo video chat
[14:12] <snap-l> which up until this point I didn't realize existed.
[14:13] <nullspace> thus this little script I'
[14:14] <nullspace> I'm checking a list of hashes to see if the same passwords are used
[14:16] <nullspace> still getting an invalid syntax on the yfile.close()
[14:16] <snap-l> nullspace: Making sure your password isn't in there?
[14:16] <nullspace> yfile is tabed within the "with"
[14:16] <brousch> nullspace: Then you don't need the close
[14:16] <nullspace> snap-l: making sure users are nto resuing shitty passwords on sites that don't secure passwords
[14:17] <jrwren> just delete teh close.
[14:17] <jrwren> you don't need it.
[14:18] <jrwren> python is not java or C#. you don't need to close the filehandle, it is closed automatically when it goes out of scope.
[14:18] <snap-l> nullspace: That's like predicting if there will be air this morning.
[14:18] <nullspace> now it's complaingin about the second with
[14:18] <nullspace> complaining even
[14:19] <jrwren> are you mixing tabs and space? :)
[14:20] <brousch> Second with?
[14:20] <jrwren> he had 2 open() statemnts which he enclosed in two with statements
[14:21] <jrwren> s/statemnts/calls/
[14:22] <snap-l> nullspace: Repaste?
[14:22] <nullspace> http://paste2.org/p/2071257
[14:24] <snap-l> What's the traceback?
[14:25] <snap-l> Also, your /n should be \n (otherwise it'll print /n instead of a linefeed
[14:25] <nullspace> traceback?
[14:25] <snap-l> Yeah, what's the error it's complaining about?
[14:25] <nullspace>   File "compare.py", line 18
[14:25] <nullspace>     with open(ours) as ofile:
[14:25] <nullspace>        ^
[14:25] <nullspace> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[14:26] <snap-l> missing paren
[14:26] <snap-l> line 16
[14:27] <jrwren> what does python -V show?
[14:27] <nullspace> 2.7.3
[14:28] <snap-l> You're missing a closing paren
[14:28] <snap-l> acknowledge?
[14:29] <nullspace> yes
[14:30] <snap-l> is it working now?
[14:30] <nullspace> that fixed it, now I'm on to getting my string.split syntax correct
[14:30] <jrwren> also, prefer line.split() to string.split(line)
[14:30] <jrwren> but that is a style thing
[14:30] <snap-l> jrwren: ++
[14:31] <jrwren> pylint would tell ya :)
[14:31] <snap-l> Man I'm not sure what WRCJ uses to rip their CDs but they have a bunch of glitches.
[14:31] <jrwren> WRCJ?
[14:31] <snap-l> I feel like spending an afternoon with their archivist
[14:31] <jrwren> do they supply an EAC log file?
[14:31] <snap-l> WRCJ 90.9FM
[14:32] <snap-l> http://wrcjfm.org/
[14:32] <jrwren> ha! you can hear artifacts on the broadcast?
[14:32] <snap-l> Yeah, I can
[14:32] <snap-l> they'll skip and have other digital distortion
[14:32] <snap-l> like a bad rip
[14:34] <snap-l> Though I did send their program manager a link to Magnatune. :)
[14:34] <snap-l> and explained all of the goodies therin
[15:03] <snap-l> God, us.archive.ubuntu.com is slow from here.
[15:03] <snap-l> Downloading mercurial, and it's taking for-ev-er
[15:03] <snap-l> https://bitbucket.org/amorris/openpyxl/src <- hoping this gives me some love
[15:08] <nullspace> ah nice no matches
[15:08] <snap-l> WEll, it also depends on their hashing
[15:08] <nullspace> turns out the file.readline() just reads one line
[15:08] <snap-l> or were these released as clear-text?
[15:08] <nullspace> plaintext
[15:09] <snap-l> Oh lovely
[15:09] <nullspace> I was hashing them and trowing them in a set, then checking the set
[15:16] <jrwren> anyone looked at julia programming language?
[15:17] <rick_h_> nope
[15:28] <nullspace> how did CHC go last night, I was stuck fixing cat 5e line in my house and patching drywall
[15:35] <jrwren> omg, I am definitely in love with Julia. I will be finding a reason to use it asap.
[15:43] <snap-l> nullspace: Went OK
[15:43] <snap-l> definitely the humor edition
[15:45] <derekv> big guns edition
[15:47] <snap-l> heh
[15:47] <snap-l> btw: The Sword is some awesome coding music
[15:47] <snap-l> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sword
[15:49] <derekv> I was, of course, reffering to my ample bicepts.
[15:49] <derekv> ;)
[15:49] <snap-l> brousch: You might like The Sword. They're heavily influenced by Black Sabbath
[15:54] <brousch> What sword?
[15:54] <snap-l> The Sword. It's a band name
[15:54] <snap-l> pasted the link above
[15:55] <brousch> oh
[15:55] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2SCIoq0VX4
[15:56] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34BXwlOmUjE
[15:58] <jrwren> i'm introducing myself to Abney Park right now. Interesting band.
[15:59] <snap-l> Yeah, I can handle about 3 minutes of them before I need to change it
[15:59] <snap-l> I think I need to just sit down and listen to it.
[15:59] <snap-l> but I have total respect for them and what they're doing
[16:00] <snap-l> kinda like Voltaire
[16:00] <snap-l> I can only handle so much crazy in one sitting
[16:13] <rick_h_> nullspace: went ok, not a ton done tbh
[16:13] <rick_h_> I ranted too much :P
[16:13] <rick_h_> poor derekv trying to be productive
[16:13] <rick_h_> and we checked out guns and night sights
[16:14] <rick_h_> now to do some hunter/gatherer stuff for lunch
[16:16] <rick_h_> lmao for the lunch break https://twitter.com/alex_gaynor/status/223450028914642945
[16:35] <derekv> I wasn't really trying to get much done.  I got my domain registered.
[16:35] <derekv> I'm happy I got controllallrobots back
[16:36] <derekv> maybe will put my blog there If I do that
[16:36] <snap-l> https://twitter.com/squeekyhoho/status/223455691103404032
[16:37] <derekv> tvatthebar.com  (tv at the bar) in case I ever do a web comic (unlikely)
[16:44] <greg-g> snap-l: nice :)
[16:44] <greg-g> for both your message and their response
[16:45] <snap-l> greg-g: Heh
[16:48]  * derekv roots droid
[16:52]  * derekv fails
[16:55]  * snap-l registered his new domain name
[16:58] <greg-g> what is it?
[17:07] <snap-l> classicalcommons.com
[17:08] <snap-l> greg-g: ^^^
[17:12] <greg-g> good deal, gandi :)
[17:12] <greg-g> snap-l: so, the podcast idea is moving along? ;)
[17:12] <snap-l> greg-g: maybe
[17:20] <brousch> snap-l: My friend that did the cartoon music podcast did an "Action and Adventure" music podcast. That was some good stuff
[17:26] <brousch> http://openlicensedmusic.blogspot.com/2012/06/episode-5-actionadventure-music.html
[17:58] <nullspace> yeay my ipv6 address is setup at home
[17:59] <nullspace> granted via tunnel
[18:00] <derekv> do'n things is hard!
[18:00] <derekv> also, can gechya inta a heapload o trouble
[18:23] <jrwren> which tunnel service?
[18:31] <derekv> i <3 o p e n s s h
[18:55] <Blazeix> i <3 h a r d - t o - r e a d  t r a c k i n g
[18:56] <derekv> stylized text
[19:04] <snap-l> th15 15 4 b3tt3r w4y 0f 5p34k1ng 4nyw4y
[19:05] <derekv> WHAT ABOUT THIS THIS IS COOL YES
[19:05] <snap-l> ThIs iS a BettEr wAy oF spEakiNg aNywaY
[19:07] <brousch> this_is_the_proper_way_of_speaking
[19:09] <derekv> ebg13 vf gur cebcre jnl bs fcrnxvat naljnlf
[19:25] <_stink_> comeOnPeopleYouKnowBetter
[19:28] <Blazeix> We haven't even started to explore colors!
[19:28] <derekv> red on green plz
[19:36] <derekv> /*"//"//'\////\P/\/\i/\/\c/\/\k//\//\e//\//\t\\/\\/*\/\/F\/\/e\/\/n\/\/c\/\/e//'//"*/
[19:41] <ColonelPanic001> I also like hard to read things.
[21:03] <snap-l> https://plus.google.com/117777908934895049975/posts/iMNMfAY8nHn
[21:10] <snap-l> Digg was bought for half a million dollars
[21:18] <rick_h_> ouch
[21:18] <rick_h_> and kevin rose laughs all the way to the bank
[21:21] <snap-l> Yep
[21:21] <snap-l> I think he divested himself a while ago
[21:23] <snap-l> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72fk8prET1r3kmkso1_400.jpg <- snicker
[21:31] <widox> wow, that's cheap
[21:31] <widox> I haven't been on digg in awhile
[21:35] <widox> haha, and they raised a total of $45M. ouch