[09:37] Morning [09:56] hey rmg51 [12:07] Morning peoples [12:12] Morning [13:49] * ChinnoDog yawns [14:23] * ChinnoDog eats rye toast [15:50] blah [15:50] crappy documentation<<<<< [16:07] better or worse than no documentation? [16:08] worse [16:08] but bad docs usually means bad code [16:08] no it doesn't [16:08] Not necessarily, but the two do often go hand in hand. [16:09] a lot of really awesome programmers are useless at documenting and they don't always have teams with good documenters, they are very different skillsets [16:09] But then again there are a number of bad things well documented. [16:09] pleia2: with a library things are a bit different. [16:09] (I was just reading the PHP - Fractal of Bad Design article yesterday) [16:10] Pici: how was that? [16:10] Java is pretty well documented [16:10] wow! this remaster of Glenn Miller is really really impressive [16:10] MutantTurkey: It made be extremely happy that I have not spent any significant amount of time using or learning php. [16:10] yeah [16:10] MutantTurkey: I guess we've just had very different experiences [16:11] pleia2: I suppose so [16:11] I don't mean perfect documentation, i don't mean detailed documentation, but when documenation is competely non-existant or references stuff that only you would know if you worked on the project, it becomes a waste of time [16:11] "poorly documented" isn't always an easy thing to measure too. [16:16] I mean it is when they just don't even care about their code [16:16] hand you a hard drive and say "ok al lthe stuff is there so just work on it, btw i am moving to california and will sparsely answer emails" [21:00] If you guys can take the time to help me out with a research project that would be awesome. I created a 3 minute survey I am using to collect data. www.jonathandemasi.com [21:01] Pass it along, too, if you feel so inclined! [21:01] TIA [21:20] jthan: What are you doing with this data? [21:22] Historical records show that periods of global warming are followed by rapid drops in temperature. I wish that would happen so everyone would shut up about global warming [21:22] ChinnoDog: Basically seeing if there is a relationship between level of education/impact by natural disasters and one's subscription to the theory [21:30] Your poll doesn't ask about our subscription to the theory [21:31] It asks if we think global warming is a problem. [21:31] Truth. [21:31] My wording was bad ^ up there [21:31] We have limited resources/time so it's the best we can do. We are being graded moreso on our process/analysis than the actual topic and such [21:32] I think almost everyone agrees it is a problem, but not everyone agrees we are causing it. [21:32] Most people dont' think we're causing it. Silly bunch [23:02] I took the survey. I am a little insulted that Canada was not listed as a US State. [23:08] lolwut? [23:16] I'm used to American students not having any clue that Canada is a separate country. [23:16] So I expect that it be listed as a state [23:16] jthan: appears to have actually paid attention in geography class. [23:51] IdleOne: lol. I left "other" in there for my european friends and you.