[00:00] <RAOF> mlankhorst: I can fix that.
[00:01] <mlankhorst> bryceh: I added a 14*.diff to ubuntu branch for newer libdrm, but it's intended for debian too, I wanted to upload the whole x1.13 stack tomorrow and upgrade all video drivers on debian
[00:01] <bryceh> ok
[00:01] <mlankhorst> in debian-experimental
[00:02] <mlankhorst> but after that back to dmabuf stuff, I want a working solution preferably soon so it can live in linux-next long enough for merge window hopefully
[00:02] <RAOF> That'd be good.
[00:03] <mlankhorst> there are some changes that would be nice to have in -next like deferred fput
[00:05] <mlankhorst> but yeah I completely underestimated how much work it was going to be to really complete this :)
[00:07] <bryceh> RAOF, how's system compositor going?  I saw the status updates on the blueprint, which sounded like it's got a long row to hoe.  However I also read in the slashdot comments that it's going to maim kittens, level small towns, and generally mark an end to computing as we know it?
[00:08] <mlankhorst> not to mention drown puppies
[00:08] <RAOF> And cause freak hurricanes.
[00:08] <bryceh> :-D
[00:08] <mlankhorst> but phoronix seemed to have picked up on my dmabufmgr code quickly
[00:08] <RAOF> The bits that are left shouldn't be *too* hard.
[00:09] <RAOF> Phoronix: everyone's favourite mailing list aggregator!
[00:09] <mlankhorst> nah it's lacking the feature where it links to the source
[00:10] <bryceh> but it makes up for it with beer references
[00:10] <mlankhorst> can't drink alcohol any more due to meds, not sure if I miss it..
[00:15] <mlankhorst> actually I do miss the taste, none of the alcohol free beer here is any good, in germany however :)
[00:16] <RAOF> It's probably a technical challenge to create good tasting alcohol free beer.
[00:16] <mlankhorst> I think the more likely answer is that there's less of a market for it
[00:17] <bryceh> I had a coffee roaster describe what the process is for making decaf beans.  It's amazing there's any taste at all.
[00:17] <RAOF> Probably a combination of the two.
[00:17] <RAOF> bryceh: Using crazy solvents, or submerging them in supercritical CO₂?
[00:18] <RAOF> (Incidentally, supercritical CO₂ is pretty awesome)
[00:18] <bryceh> I forget the exact process but yeah they extract all the stuff from the bean, chemically remove the caffeine, then smoosh it back into the bean.  Something like that anyway.
[00:22] <RAOF> 6.14.99~really6.14.5+git20120712.gitg8dc07e6-0~systemcompositor1. It's the world's longest version string!
[00:25] <mlankhorst> RAOF: backported ~precise1~ppa1
[00:26] <RAOF> W: xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg: package-has-long-file-name 103 (112) > 80
[00:26] <RAOF> It has officially triggered a lintian warning :)
[00:28] <mlankhorst> I think this would be longer still: xserver-xorg-video-ati-lts-quantal-dbg 6.14.99~really6.14.5+git20120712.gitg8dc07e6-0~precise1~ppa1
[00:30] <RAOF> Yes. Yes it would.
[00:30] <mlankhorst> but if you want i can try to append ~systemcompositor1 to that
[00:35] <RAOF> Aaand everything should now be system-compositor-capable. Back to base for debriefing and cocktails.
[00:35] <RAOF> Or possibly coffee and mesa SRU review.
[06:03] <tjaalton> duh, there was a security update to xorg-server, which doesn't have the change for bug 921236. could someone roll out a new version for -proposed?
[07:32] <mlankhorst> morning
[09:32] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: do you still need a new version rolled out for xorg-server?
[09:56] <mlankhorst> RAOF: ok I updated ubuntu-precise with the security update again, can the xserver sru be pushed out again?
[10:52] <mlankhorst> yikes, 10 hour queue on xserver..
[18:01] <Sarvatt> ricotz: great, that newer mesa is busted on intel
[18:02] <Sarvatt> craploads of DRM_IOCTL_I915_GEM_CONTEXT_CREATE failed: Invalid argument and the unity panel doesn't work
[18:02] <ricotz> Sarvatt, i havent looked into it, but i noticed some areas not refreshing
[18:02] <ricotz> ^ with gnome-shell
[18:03] <ricotz> it is working though
[18:03] <ricotz> although it broke xserver master build ;)
[18:07] <ricotz> Sarvatt, grr, weston already needs a newer mesa :\
[18:08] <ricotz> Sarvatt, http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/diff/include/EGL/eglmesaext.h?id=e6a33570b73aa56c87818d7f67a122d4427b7841
[18:09] <Sarvatt> great DRM_IOCTL_I915_GEM_CONTEXT_CREATE is only in drm-intel-next-queued
[18:10] <ricotz> Sarvatt, uh, but it is proposed for 3.5?
[18:12] <Sarvatt> note to self: stop updating crap when it's time for an intel quarterly release
[18:17] <ricotz> hmm :\
[18:17] <Sarvatt> so i guess i'll go back to a checkout from the 8th, then cherry-pick those wayland commits..
[18:20] <ricotz> Sarvatt, reverting the introduction of DRM_IOCTL_I915_GEM_CONTEXT_CREATE, is not an option?
[18:21] <Sarvatt> i dont know where it broke and its a freaking nightmare patching this to build out of tree, but apparently it wasn't broken in an 0708 checkout RAOF did for the system compositor ppa :)
[18:25] <ricotz> hmm, i see
[18:27] <ricotz> Sarvatt, i dont see any reference to DRM_IOCTL_I915_GEM_CONTEXT_CREATE
[18:29] <ricotz> Sarvatt, it is probably caused by libdrm
[18:30] <ricotz> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/drm/commit/?id=a5b2946889471f6075852949f90f660e43b68532
[18:35] <ricotz> Sarvatt, http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=860d5bdf984730f69cd19b4f7145f3c84b57d33d
[18:37] <ricotz> Sarvatt, try just to revert this ^
[18:54] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: hm should we try to sru all the X packages that aren't core X but used by X to reduce breakage when switching stacks?
[20:01] <osiris> will adding the x-swat ppa get my old nvidia card's HW acceleration going again ? running ubuntu 12.04 with a nvidia geforce 4 fx 5200
[20:01] <osiris> I understand this is an issue with the newer version of xorg not playing nice with the 173 driver
[21:40] <Sarvatt> RAOF: does that 0708 mesa in the system compositor ppa actually work for you on intel? because it doesn't here, unity panel is blank
[21:43] <ricotz> Sarvatt, RAOF, to be specific unity3d ;)
[22:43] <bjsnider> osiris, have you tried the nouveau driver?
[23:40] <RAOF> Sarvatt: You mean, unity doesn't display any icons? That's a unity bug, I think.
[23:40] <RAOF> Sarvatt: At least, people who weren't (AFAIK) using the system-compositor PPA were also complaining about it.
[23:45] <mlankhorst> RAOF: we should have a discussion about sru'ing libdrm at one point :)
[23:46] <RAOF> What needs to be SRUd there?
[23:47] <mlankhorst> i think it would make more sense if we sru all the libraries that would need an update explicitly surrounding X so the core X packages + mesa package itself can be swapped easier
[23:50] <mlankhorst> so all the X drivers + X server + Xorg package itself would be renamed
[23:56] <RAOF> I don't think that's likely to happen.
[23:57] <RAOF> Or, rather, policy explicitly forbids it, and unless there's a really good reason I don't think the policy will be amended.
[23:57] <RAOF> mlankhorst: I though libdrm was easy enough to rename (adding in a bonus plymouth-rename, which is annoying, but not critical)?
[23:58] <mlankhorst> RAOF: it's actually easy to rename, but hard to upgrade
[23:58] <mlankhorst> things break apart rather quickly
[23:58] <RAOF> Hm. What upgrade paths were we supporting, again?
[23:59] <mlankhorst> I would guess upwards mostly, but it just breaks too fast leaving a chance of leaving system unbootable
[23:59] <mlankhorst> since it's core