[01:45] <len-dt> ailo, http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2012-July/085677.html this looks promising.
[01:47] <len-dt> If jack/alsa can see all the input tracks on the R16 or R24, that would add to the list of USB units that just work
[01:48] <len-dt> The R8 is 2i/o but the 16/24 are 8in/2out
[01:50] <len-dt> What does make me a little leery of things is the suggestion on the zoom web site that two units can be synced via USB... to within 2ms
[01:51] <len-dt> I guess they are talking time code sync, not audio. Don't put stereo across the two machines.
[01:51] <len-dt> Oh and the syncing is only for stand alone use.
[01:52] <len-dt> My local music store doesn't have them so I can't try.
[01:59] <ailo> len-dt: It's usb 1.1, so that explains it
[01:59] <len-dt> 24 bit?
[02:00] <ailo> The R8 doesn't require drivers as far as I can see
[02:00] <ailo> I'll check the manual
[02:00] <len-dt> says it requires a USB2.0 port.
[02:03] <len-dt> The manual is a long downlaod
[02:04] <ailo> It is
[02:06] <ailo> len-dt: I found something about a driver now..
[02:07] <ailo> http://www.zoom.co.jp/downloads/r8/software/
[02:07] <ailo> It says it offers lower latency being ASIO
[02:07] <ailo> So, maybe not actually needed for full functionality
[02:14] <ailo> len-dt: I'm starting a list here, but not putting links for it anywhere yet. Would like to go through a bunch of known devices and add them first
[02:14] <ailo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/SupportedHardware/ListOfSupportedUSBDevices
[02:28] <ailo> len-dt: Reading the manual. It wasy 96kHz/24 bits, but haven't got to how and when
[02:29] <ailo> Also, seems like a great tool
[02:29] <ailo> Has sampler builtin, and sequencing
[02:29] <ailo> If you don't mind its' interface
[02:29] <len-dt> ailo, seems good to use away from the computer for sure.
[02:31] <ailo> But it says if you import stuff into it, it can only handle up to 48kHz
[02:31] <ailo> And on Mac, no driver needed
[02:31] <ailo> So, I don't know
[02:33] <ailo> The trouble with jack is that you don't know if it's actually running in 24 bits
[02:33] <ailo> Even if you are using that for your project on whatever software you use
[02:34] <len-dt> Wed Jul 11 19:38:31 2012: ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
[02:34] <len-dt> This from the jack log
[02:34] <ailo> There is a way to know, but I have forgotten. Thinking about implementing that to -controls.
[02:34] <len-dt> That is for the d66
[02:34] <ailo> len-dt: Yes, but that's not what the card is doing
[02:35] <ailo> Knowing what sample rate the card is working at is what I mean
[02:35] <ailo> I mean, bit rate
[02:35] <len-dt> With my USB1.1 device it says 16  bit
[02:36] <len-dt> I can't remember what it says with my HD internal.
[02:37] <ailo> If that is so, then that would do it
[02:37] <ailo> I just remember asking las about it, and he gave me a hint
[02:38] <ailo> It says 32 bits for me too, but my card only supports 24 bits, and I don't think there is still a device that supports more
[02:38] <len-dt> I wonder if L&M would rent me their R24... (I can't aford to buy one.)
[02:39] <ailo> I could probably try a lot of devices here.
[02:39] <ailo> Just need to prepare something, so I can store the results
[02:39] <ailo> And get my finger out of my ..
[02:39] <ailo> There are plenty of shops around
[02:39] <len-dt> It may be that alsa uses 32 bit for anything bigger than 16
[02:39] <ailo> I think so
[02:40] <len-dt> I think Ardour uses 32bit internal too no matter what the input is.
[02:40] <len-dt> floating point?
[02:42] <ailo> Yes
[02:42] <ailo> Usually you can choose between 16, 24 and 32
[02:42] <ailo> But when you set the device, it's either 16 or 24
[02:47] <len-dt> It is interesting:•	 USB hubs are not supported.
[02:47] <len-dt> •	 Intel® chipsets recommended.
[02:47] <len-dt> I wonder if they are talking about the USB chip set
[03:04] <len-dt> just to confirm:
[03:04] <len-dt> Wed Jul 11 20:08:51 2012: ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 16bit little-endian
[03:05] <len-dt> ailo, That is my USB1.1 device
[03:05] <ailo> Cool
[03:06] <len-dt> My old ensoniq is the same.
[03:06] <ailo> I'm really getting too little done right now. I was hoping to finish this puredata project (or at least wrap the major part up) within this week, but it just keeps draggin on
[03:07] <ailo> The problem is, I can't find the peace of mind to do anything else until it's done
[03:07] <ailo> But it doesn't help trying too hard either
[03:07] <len-dt> ailo, the heat is getting to me, I end up coming home and sleeping.
[03:07] <ailo> Just has the opposite effect
[03:08] <ailo> Well, no need to worry too much. Just try to relax and have a bit of fun
[03:09] <ailo> I would probably share the project with other people, but I don't think I will be able to get even one other person to help on it, or not very easily
[03:10] <ailo> len-dt: Have some lime drink. I usually like that on a hot day
[03:10] <ailo> Think I'm going for a run soon. bbl
[03:19] <len-dt> ailo, I'm ok now, it is just after a 3 hour fast walk with weight, I'm done for a bit
[04:28] <ailo> I can imagine that will make you hot :)
[05:02] <len-dt> I look for sprinklers