[00:58]  * pleia2 tries template page for meeting minutes
[01:25] <pleia2> if I knew what day it was that'd be awesome
[01:40] <pleia2> anyway, meeting minutes are up now
[01:40] <pleia2> and tweeted
[02:37] <GridCube> x
[02:43] <genii-around> pleia2: Do you have a link? I would like to see how different it looks from the meetingology stock page...
[02:44] <genii-around> Actually I found it :)
[09:32] <ochosi> elfy: did you get a chance to test light-software-center yet?
[09:33] <elfy> nope - was the one I linked you yesterday they one you meant? 
[09:34] <ochosi> oh, you linked me to something?
[09:34] <ochosi> sorry, must've overlooked it
[09:35] <elfy> https://launchpad.net/light-software-center
[09:35] <ochosi> yeah, that's it
[09:35] <elfy> k
[09:41] <elfy> ochosi: I'm happy to run it and help - but I'd need some pointers how to install it :)
[09:42] <ochosi> elfy: that's the thing, you have to clone the bzr branch and then build it
[09:43] <ochosi> there's no ppa yet afaik
[09:43] <elfy> !! sounds like voodoo to me ... I do have bzr setup here - was looking at the ubuntu manual 
[09:43] <elfy> silly ubottu
[09:44] <ochosi> first you run bzr branch lp:light-software-center
[09:44] <ochosi> then you have the code and start looking for build instructions there :)
[09:44] <elfy> ok 
[09:44] <elfy> will look today 
[09:44] <ochosi> i guess "./autogen.sh && make" should work
[09:45] <elfy> okey doke
[09:45] <ochosi> and then hopefully you'll get an executable in /src
[09:45] <ochosi> i mean: src/
[09:45] <ochosi> then you won't have to run "sudo make install"
[09:46] <elfy> ok
[09:47] <elfy> don't have bzr lol - it's in 12.04 - getting perm denied errors atm - I'll sort it out and have a play
[09:47] <elfy> thanks for the help
[09:47] <ochosi> you'll also need libpackagekit-glib2-dev
[09:47] <elfy> ok
[09:47] <ochosi> and actually you have to run "./autogen.sh && ./configure"
[09:47] <ochosi> (and then make i assume)
[09:48] <ochosi> and you need libsqlheavy-dev
[09:48] <ochosi> ok, i'm off for now, bbl
[09:48] <elfy> k - cya
[09:48] <ochosi> good luck elfy  :)
[09:48] <elfy> :)
[10:01]  * astraljava hasn't yet figured out the logic behind alternating between elfy and hobgoblin.
[10:02] <elfy> astraljava: elfy is my forum nick - so if there are people in the #uf channel floating about that are new I use it so they know who I am 
[10:03] <elfy> but I tend to be hobgoblin on IRC 
[10:04] <astraljava> Yeah ok. :)
[10:42] <elfy> ochosi: I have officially given up with that :| 
[10:52] <astraljava> What seems to be the problem?
[10:53] <elfy> bzr won't let me get the branch - Permission denied (publickey).
[10:54] <elfy> maybe it all needs time to talk to each other - who can tell
[10:54] <elfy> I did the pgp key thing and bzr lets me login without any trouble
[10:55] <elfy> oh - is it an ssh key I need ?
[10:58] <astraljava> elfy: Yes.
[10:59] <elfy> lmao
[10:59] <elfy> that works then ... ;P
[11:01] <elfy> ty astraljava :)
[11:32] <astraljava> Oh no worries, that was altogether... 10 key presses to help. I won't charge you for that small a fix.
[11:34] <astraljava> Actually, it was less than that, cause I used tab completion. So it was 1. e, 2. <tab>, 3. <shift>, 4. y, 5. e, 6. s, 7. . and 8. <enter>.
[13:28] <ochosi> elfy: so, did you get anywhere?
[13:28] <elfy> I am now bald
[13:29] <elfy> got almost there :) - it won't make though make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
[13:29] <ochosi> you mean as in: you don't have any hair on your head anymore?
[13:29] <ochosi> a-ha, well maybe you have to do something else, i haven't looked at the build-system
[13:30] <elfy> yea - I rarely do this so I've no real experience to draw on 
[13:30] <ochosi> this suggests it should work that way: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-software-center-team/light-software-center/trunk/view/head:/INSTALL
[13:30] <ochosi> did configure succeed?
[13:31] <ochosi> as in: did you get all the build-deps installed?
[13:31] <elfy> d'oh
[13:31] <ochosi> ;)
[13:31] <elfy> missing gtk+-3.0 
[13:31] <ochosi> lol
[13:31] <elfy> a bit firther then lol
[13:32] <ochosi> in that case you have to try to configure until you don't get any of those errors anymore :)Ö
[13:32] <elfy> I just assumed that when you said ./autogen && make that would do it all :)
[13:32] <elfy> I shall soldier on :)
[13:34] <ochosi> i corrected myself though with that and mentioned at least two dependencies
[13:34] <elfy> I got those :)
[13:34] <elfy> anyway - I shall play a bit more now :)
[13:48] <elfy> ochosi: http://i.imgur.com/oj8ha.png
[13:49] <elfy> empty - but I got further than I was :)
[13:49] <ochosi> yup
[13:49] <ochosi> looks almost ok :)
[13:49] <elfy> yep
[13:50] <elfy> thanks for the help 
[13:50] <ochosi> np
[13:53] <ochosi> so did configure and make succeed without errors?
[13:54] <ochosi> or were there some issues with packagekit which could be the reason for no pkgs showing up
[13:54] <elfy> didn't see any errors about packagekit
[13:55] <elfy> I can redo it all - didn't take long once I wasn't making daft mistakes 
[13:58] <ochosi> yeah, you can run ./configure and make anytime again
[13:58] <ochosi> btw, it's possible that you have to run "sudo make install" for it to really work...
[13:58] <elfy> ok
[13:58] <ochosi> (you can still uninstall it, just not via package-management)
[14:02] <elfy> no errors that I could see - a warning is all, if you want to look then it's all here http://pastebin.com/aCrwLbsz
[14:03] <elfy> there is a dbbuild in the /usr/local/bin that's new though 
[14:03] <ochosi> you just ran ./autogen?
[14:03] <elfy> and configure and sudo make install 
[14:03] <ochosi> and make?
[14:04] <elfy> not make 
[14:04] <ochosi> you should try that :)
[14:04] <ochosi> autogen is only needed once, then configure and make
[14:04] <ochosi> then make install
[14:05] <elfy> still empty :)
[14:05] <elfy> anyway - gtg now for a bit
[14:05] <ochosi> okeydokey
[14:06] <elfy> but if you have time later - then we could try and get it working so I can try it out - or anyone else :)
[14:06] <ochosi> ok sure
[14:12] <ochosi> elfy: just talked to one of the lsc-devs, it's simply not ready (and won't be for 12.10)
[14:12] <ochosi> knome: since you and i are assignees for that workitem ^ i think we have to look elsewhere for alternatives
[14:13] <ochosi> knome: (replace USC/Synaptic with light-software-center)
[14:13] <knome> ochosi, ok
[14:14] <knome> i'm off, see you later
[14:18] <ochosi> me too
[14:21] <elfy> ok ochosi - I will forget all about that then - if there is a need in the future for it let me knwo
[14:25] <ochosi> elfy: yup, thanks!
[19:00] <pleia2> web admin people (requires log in): thoughts on what to add to this? http://xubuntu.org/?p=1325
[19:05] <knome> pleia2, btw, anybody in the -team has access to anything unpublished, including editing ;)
[19:06] <pleia2> I know, I guess I mean "web admin people" as "anyone who cares enough" ;)
[19:06] <knome> pleia2, i'd move twitter to be the first, but that's just personal preference
[19:06] <pleia2> not everyone has accounts
[19:07] <knome> account is created when you log in with ubuntu sso
[19:07] <pleia2> I know
[19:07] <knome> anyway, twitter as first, and maybe mention they are listed on the xubuntu.org footer :)
[19:08] <knome> and i might just write the parenthesis on the second paragraph "open" some way or other
[19:08] <knome> i mean, remove the parenthesis and the contents, and if we need to say that aloud, start a new sentence :)
[19:09] <pleia2> yeah, trying to figure out how to say we didn't just take over the feeds :)
[19:15] <knome> heh
[19:17] <knome> "We definitely want to involve more people in the project, and that's why we have let the original admins keep their privileges - and to be exact, keep on running the groups as they used to"
[19:17] <knome> or so
[19:23] <pleia2> ok, "As our intention was to not only reach more users through these resources, but also to involve more people in the project, for each of these resources we’ve asked them to keep on running the groups as they used to."
[23:17] <pleia2> http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/07/xubuntu-1204-lts-review-perfect.html
[23:20] <ochosi> nice review
[23:22] <pleia2> added to our press page :)
[23:32] <drc> Just a note, the Softpedia link is titled "Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Screenshot Tour at Softpedia" rather than Xubuntu.
[23:33] <pleia2> drc: fixed, thank you!