[00:01] <Joit> it actually executes 2 commands in a row
[00:03] <Mandy089> Oh that makes since.Well alright. Thanks for all your help Joit and Daskreech. Have a good night.
[00:25] <DemonWitch> hey how can i change at grub the video driver ( i want to choose vesa by changing the kernel line)
[00:28] <Joit> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Framebuffer
[00:49] <Daskreech> DemonWitch I think so
[01:22] <pawan> hi
[01:22] <pawan> wired connection not working
[01:22] <pawan> no active
[03:09] <freedog> hello
[03:11] <freedog> performanc reduction with kde-winwowmanger-gles, its paint black splotches in the screen. Regualr Kwin did now. Synaptic will not in-install "gless" so i can go back to just plain "KWin"
[03:12] <freedog> un-install
[03:13] <freedog> performanc re-gression  with kde-winwowmanger-gles, its paints black splotches in the screen. Regualr Kwin did now. Synaptic will not un-install "gless" so i can go back to just plain "KWin".
[03:19] <Daskreech> hi freedog
[03:19] <freedog> hi
[03:19] <Daskreech> freedog: kwin --replace
[03:20] <freedog> but i dont want to do that on every start up
[03:24] <freedog> no solutions
[03:24] <freedog> ?
[03:25] <Daskreech> freedog: how did you set gles as your default windowmanager?
[03:26] <freedog> intstleed iti with synatpic, synaptic set it as so
[03:45] <mr0wl> what's the meta package for kde telepathy?
[03:50] <freedog> kwin --replace will not set kwin to the defalt manger at ever start up will it?
[03:51] <freedog> id really like to remove gle completly
[03:51] <freedog> KDE glesd
[04:03] <Daskreech> freedog: sorry went off for a while
[04:03] <Daskreech> freedog: alt+F2 -> Default applications -> set what you like
[04:03] <Daskreech> If you want to remove gles presuming that you pulled it in from a PPA or so just apt-get remove ---purge it
[04:04] <Daskreech> Or leave
[05:17] <tusharthantharat> Hi Guys
[05:18] <tusharthantharat> I have an debain/ubuntu iso... what i did was i unzipped it made some changes and again converted back it into iso
[05:18] <tusharthantharat> but it is not working
[05:20] <tusharthantharat> anybody? i am really stuck ..
[05:20] <tusharthantharat> any help
[05:22] <tusharthantharat> Also i want to change the login banner.... i know the way to do it after installation but i want to add the static Ascii Art text in the instllation itself
[05:22] <tusharthantharat> so that i dont need to make those chnages on clients machine
[05:24] <tusharthantharat> guys anybody out der?
[05:27] <16WAASN71> ??
[05:28] <tusharthantharat> Hi Guys
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[05:28] <tusharthantharat> I have an debain/ubuntu iso... what i did was i unzipped it made some changes and again converted back it into iso
[05:28] <tusharthantharat> but it is not working
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[06:23] <msx> hey folks! anybode knows how to *fuck1ng* start amarok minimized!?
[06:25] <Tm_T> !language | msx
[08:54] <eagles0513875> hey guys im in user management and for some reason im trying to modify a group name and its not letting me type in the name that I want. how can i rectify the situation
[09:00] <ikonia> eagles0513875: can you expand on that,
[09:00] <ikonia> eagles0513875: are you trying to change an existing groups name ?
[09:00] <eagles0513875> i have a group that has only 1001 no group name
[09:00] <eagles0513875> i have to run really fast be back in about 20 min
[09:00] <ikonia> eagles0513875: ok, so that's a gid not a group name
[09:01] <eagles0513875> ikonia: it has a gid but no group name
[09:01] <ikonia> correct, that's what I've just said
[09:01] <ikonia> it's a gid, not a group name
[09:01] <ikonia> so you can't change a gid into a group name
[09:01] <ikonia> the reason it has a gid and not a name, is because the group that WAS 1001 has been removed, the 1001 is a reference pointer to what was there
[09:01] <eagles0513875> cuz in the user management there is a colum in groups that is for group name
[09:01] <ikonia> there is no group to rename
[09:01] <eagles0513875> i recreated the user with the same id
[09:02] <ikonia> you'd need to add a group using the gid 1001
[09:02] <ikonia> the user has nothing to do with the group
[09:02] <eagles0513875> humm ok
[09:02] <ikonia> add a group (any name you want) using a gid of 1001 and the problem will be resolved
[09:38] <eagles0513875> ikonia: im a bit confused the user id is going to have the same gid which wont have a name right
[09:38] <ikonia> the userid is nothing to do with the gid,
[09:40] <eagles0513875> ikonia: do you mind if i screen shot you
[09:41] <ikonia> yeah, if you want
[09:44] <eagles0513875> ikonia: http://imagebin.org/220601
[09:44] <eagles0513875> shouldnt i be able to change the group name?
[09:44] <ikonia> eagles0513875: grep 1001 /etc/group
[09:45] <eagles0513875> ::1001:jonathan
[09:45] <ikonia> eagles0513875: right, so there is no group
[09:45] <ikonia> however you are a member of it
[09:45] <ikonia> I'm not sure how you've done this
[09:45] <ikonia> what was group 1001 ?
[09:45] <eagles0513875> ikonia: automatically was created when i created the other user jaquilina
[09:45] <eagles0513875> is 1001 safe to remove?
[09:46] <ikonia> hang on
[09:46] <ikonia> a group called 1001 doesn't automatically get created when you create a user
[09:47] <eagles0513875> ikonia: so its safe to create a new group and remove 1001
[09:47] <ikonia> I would suggest removing jonathan from the group and then removing the line from /etc/group
[09:47] <kim> i've read the news about kde telepathy... i'm using it for few months now... for 12.10 i'd suggest 0.5, 0.4 is still missing some stuff (I couldn't make skype working with it, doesn't hide clicking on the icon and others)
[09:47] <ikonia> removing the 1001 will not cause a problem as it's worthless now
[09:48] <eagles0513875> ok i removed the user jonathan from that group since jonathan is my main user
[09:48] <ikonia> I would then remove that group as it is worthless and will cause you confusion going forward
[09:48] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:48] <eagles0513875> ill create a new group called users
[09:48] <ikonia> that should already exist
[09:48] <ikonia> users is normally a default group on most systems
[09:49] <ikonia> normally a low gid reserved, 80 - 100
[09:49] <ikonia> somewhere in that range
[09:49] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:49] <eagles0513875> well i called it project_users
[09:49] <ikonia> call it what you want, names are not important, the gid's are
[09:49] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:52] <eagles0513875> ikonia: i have a project in the home directory of /home/jaquilina and i am trying to open the python files in eric and they are opening as read only
[09:52] <eagles0513875> what am i missing to make them to where the user jonathan can access them and have rw access
[09:52] <ikonia> eagles0513875: er......that's a basic permissions setup
[09:52] <ikonia> eagles0513875: you can make them read/write/execute depend on the permissions you set on them
[10:09] <eagles0513875> ikonia: im a bit lost with the permissions
[10:09] <eagles0513875> i have both users in the group project_users
[10:10] <ikonia> eagles0513875: and what is the permissions on the files you want to open
[10:12] <eagles0513875> ikonia: directories are drwxrwxr-x files are -rw-rw-r--
[10:12] <eagles0513875> user is jaquilina group is project_users which contain both users
[10:13] <ikonia> eagles0513875: please show me "ls -la" on one of the files you are trying to open
[10:13] <eagles0513875> ikonia: -rw-rw-r-- 1 jaquilina project_users 3502 Jul 13 12:09 /home/jaquilina/intradev/clients/models.py
[10:14] <ikonia> eagles0513875: please show me the output of the command "id jaquilina"
[10:14] <eagles0513875> ikonia: uid=1001(jaquilina) gid=1002(jaquilina) groups=1002(jaquilina),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),46(plugdev),107(scanner),109(lpadmin),1000(jonathan),121(sambashare),1001(project_users)
[10:15] <ikonia> eagles0513875: so if you "vi/nano/whatever /home/jaquilina/intradev/clients/models.py" as jaquilina can you write to the file ?
[10:15] <eagles0513875> ikonia: i can write to the file no problem as jaquilina
[10:15] <eagles0513875> but i cant as jonathan
[10:15] <eagles0513875> i do sudo login jaquilina on command line and then access the file no problems
[10:15] <ikonia> eagles0513875: please show me the output of the command "id jonathan"
[10:16] <eagles0513875> ikonia: uid=1000(jonathan) gid=1000(jonathan) groups=1000(jonathan),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),121(sambashare),1001(project_users)
[10:16] <ikonia> eagles0513875: exit the shell as jonathan and start a new one
[10:16] <eagles0513875> done
[10:16] <ikonia> eagles0513875: if the shell was running before you change the permissions to add jonathan it won't work
[10:16] <ikonia> eagles0513875: try now
[10:17] <eagles0513875> lets say im using an ide would i need to log out and back in
[10:17] <eagles0513875> command line is working
[10:17] <ikonia> eagles0513875: yes, as that ide would have been launched as the shell before you changed the permissions
[10:17] <eagles0513875> ok well let me try it out and apologies for such a trivial question :( i dont mess about with permissions that often
[10:17] <eagles0513875> brb
[10:18] <ikonia> eagles0513875: not a problem to help, no need to apologies, just keep in mind, you are advertising yourself as a professional Linux systems administrator, this is basic stuff you should be able to deal with
[10:25] <eagles0513875> ikonia: agreed and that did the trick btw :)
[10:25] <ikonia> great
[10:26] <eagles0513875> ikonia: what i forgot was that one needs to either log out and back in to have the permissions re sourced by apps or restart the terminal
[10:26] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with logging out/back in
[10:26] <ikonia> it's to do with what was active when you made the change
[10:27] <eagles0513875> ikonia: i have another issue that with certain apps im using the standard kde desktop layout, but apps arent fitting to the screen when maximized :-/ so in this one app i have a partial menus and a very small canvas to view the files code :(
[10:27] <ikonia> eagles0513875: ok, so is this one appliation or many
[10:27] <eagles0513875> so far only one that i have seen
[10:28] <eagles0513875> another one with the netbook layout but that is a know bug upstream is aware of
[10:28] <ikonia> eagles0513875: ok so it's "one app" not "certain apps"
[10:28] <eagles0513875> ikonia: right now just the one
[10:29] <ikonia> eagles0513875: which application is it ?
[10:29] <eagles0513875> eric python ide
[10:29] <eagles0513875> one thing that does pop up is about an updated version
[10:29] <ikonia> is that from the ubuntu repos ? or an external one
[10:29] <eagles0513875> ubuntu repos
[10:29] <ikonia> !info eric
[10:29] <ikonia> (what's the package name)
[10:29] <ikonia> ahhh that it is
[10:29] <ikonia> eagles0513875: is that the version you're using ?
[10:30] <eagles0513875> correct
[10:30] <ikonia> eagles0513875: I would log a bug on that (remember what we said about how to log a bug, the details, not pesting individuals etc)
[10:31] <ikonia> the resizing thing won't be (probably) a config issue, it will be a problem with the actual application
[10:31] <ikonia> (especially if it's just on maximise)
[10:32] <eagles0513875> ok but there is a dialogue that popped up the first time i ran it saying there is a new version and if i want to download it which i didnt. is that something that should be allowed to pop up
[10:32] <ikonia> eagles0513875: I guess (and it is just a guess) it depends on how it downloads/what it downloads
[10:33] <ikonia> eagles0513875: I suspect it will just take you to the projects home page rather than actually download a package
[10:33] <ikonia> I'd certainly include that in the bug report
[10:36] <eagles0513875> ya quite a few newer versions of eric out
[10:36] <eagles0513875> 4.5.4 is the latest stable
[10:37] <ikonia> eagles0513875: that doesn't mean it's compatible/usable with the current kde setup though
[10:38] <ikonia> so upgrading is not always the best option, that's why I'd include that in the bug fix
[10:38] <eagles0513875> agreed
[10:38] <eagles0513875> was also going to file a request to have the version bumped for 12.10
[10:38] <ikonia> why file that request ?
[10:38] <ikonia> why ?
[10:44] <eagles0513875> ikonia: why not? im sure latest version has lots of bug fixes etc
[10:44] <ikonia> why don't you let the people who build/maintain the packages decide.
[10:45] <ikonia> are you suggesting that they are not considering the best package available ?
[10:45] <ikonia> eagles0513875: you are blindly requesting an update to a package without any understanding or reason beyond "it's newer"
[10:45] <ikonia> it may require later dependencies, it may need config changes to work as things change, why don't you let the guys who build the release each time make educated decisions based on experience
[10:46] <ikonia> rather than "it's later"
[10:46] <eagles0513875> fine
[10:46]  * eagles0513875 goes back to debugging python unit tests
[10:47]  * ikonia has asked eagles to stop with the /me commands of what you are doing all the time
[10:52]  * Smurphy asks ikonia why he;she asked eagles0513875 to stop using the /me command ?
[10:53] <ikonia> Smurphy: because it's constant and no relevence to the channel
[10:53]  * Smurphy disagrees with ikonia
[10:53]  * Smurphy .oO(this is freedom of speech)
[10:53] <Smurphy> :}
[10:54] <Smurphy> sorry - couldn't resist.
[10:55] <ikonia> it's fine
[10:55] <ikonia> and this channel isn't "freedom of speach"
[10:56] <Smurphy> ah. Ok. so you are a person wanting to abuse the small powers given to you ? Fine by me
[10:56] <Tm_T> allright, let's get back to the channel topic
[10:57] <Smurphy> FYI - I belong to the old school, having started with KDE pre-1 and having done also the entire french translation at that time.
[10:57] <Tm_T> if someone wants to continue offtopic discussion, the channel topic contains the direction
[10:57] <Smurphy> Another one ... wanting to control...
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:37] <mydogsnameisrudy> morning BluesKaj
[11:47] <BluesKaj> 'morning mydogsnameisrudy
[12:13] <basoke> Hello does anyone have any experience setting up a multi-seat Kubuntu?
[15:08] <Daskreech> basoke: Just checking that's one install with multiple terminals?
[15:08] <Daskreech> hi mydogsnameisrudy and BluesKaj
[15:08] <basoke> Yes, one install, with multiple terminals.
[15:10] <basoke> Daskreech: yes, I've presently got 4 monitors going and want to have one pair controlled by separate inputs with a separate login etc. I've heard about multiseat setups. but couldn't find any reliable starting point.
[15:10] <Daskreech> basoke: Ah I remember a good tutorial for Fedora when the last one came out. Should be pretty similar
[15:11] <Daskreech> Possibly check in #edubuntu as well since those are more common in Education Institutes
[15:12] <basoke> Daskreech: alright, I'll see if that helps, thanks a bunch :)
[15:12] <BluesKaj> hey Daskreech
[15:20] <natman> RE: http://www.kubuntu.org/ktp-0.4 does anyone know will testing, muck up my current kopete set up?
[15:33] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[15:33] <a3243591> hi
[16:23] <Daskreech> natman: It won't they are very independent
[16:23] <Daskreech> hi phoenix_firebrd
[16:26] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: hi
[16:28] <Daskreech> y:)
[16:30] <genii-around> Daskreech: Did you happen to see how mandy434 from yesterday made out after I left ? It looked like somehow she had added herself to root users, or some other very odd issue. I was just curious if joit or some other finally managed to help.
[16:30] <Daskreech> genii-around: she had removed +x on her ~
[16:31] <genii-around> Daskreech: Weird... I would not think that would cause some symptom like "whoami" reporting "mandy" but touch file; ls -l file showing root owner...
[16:36] <Daskreech> genii-around: I would have guessed that's from a sudo touch
[16:38] <genii-around> Daskreech: It was very puzzling at the time
[16:39] <phoenix_firebrd> genii-around: did you irc logs?
[16:39] <phoenix_firebrd> genii-around: did you check the irc logs?
[16:39] <genii-around> phoenix_firebrd: Not yet, I may later when I have time
[16:39] <Daskreech> genii-around: even funnier her name is Mandy (not the caps)
[16:40] <Daskreech> note
[16:41]  * genii-around sips his coffee and ponders
[16:44] <phoenix_firebrd> my kde version is 4.8.90
[16:44] <phoenix_firebrd> my dolphin version is 4.8.95
[16:44] <phoenix_firebrd> why is this mismatch
[16:45] <phoenix_firebrd> i have enabled beta backports
[16:46] <Joit> well, i think its a comon problem that some peoples dont understand, that others dont want to become experts at her OS, just use it, because they have other things to do. Thats when some from these errors happen
[16:48] <phoenix_firebrd> muon shows dolphins installed version as 4.8.90
[16:57] <home> hi
[16:57] <phoenix_firebrd> hi
[16:57] <home> hi
[16:57] <home> hellp
[16:57] <home> hello
[17:00] <home> Can you guys give me some irc address???
[17:03] <mydogsnameisrudy> home:  were do you want to go
[17:04] <home> i'm new to irc
[17:04] <home> so
[17:04] <home> some other irc groups
[17:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> what do you have now
[17:05] <home> whot?
[17:05] <home> here in this kubuntu room
[17:05] <phoenix_firebrd> home: are you using quassel?
[17:05] <mydogsnameisrudy> nm you are on just kubuntu
[17:06] <mydogsnameisrudy> #kubuntuofftopic  #ubuntu #kde
[17:06] <Guest20750> any links for kde cutomization or kubuntu tips??
[17:06] <BluesKaj> home, go to http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/networks/servers/
[17:07] <home> thanks
[17:11] <sweetofserbia> Good day, can someone help me with a free unlocking code for "Blackberry" please?
[17:11] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: This isn't a channel about phones
[17:11] <home> blackberry?
[17:12] <home> try to reset
[17:12] <sweetofserbia> I know, but...
[17:13] <sweetofserbia> home I try ut phone is locked
[17:13] <viktor> hi
[17:13] <viktor> i wanna play minecraft
[17:14] <viktor> i execute the program and it run
[17:14] <viktor> but when i want to play the window turn black...
[17:14] <home> oh sweet
[17:14] <home> um...
[17:14] <home> wait
[17:14] <home> let me find
[17:15] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: There are dozens of places to bring your phone in person and have them unlock it for about $20-30 USD. Each phone has a different unlock code so there's nothing useful we can tell you here about it. Also this is not a support channel for phones.
[17:15] <sweetofserbia> Ok thank you a lot
[17:15] <viktor> alguien español que pueda ayudarme?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> !es
[17:16] <viktor>  /join #ubuntu-es"
[17:16] <sweetofserbia> <genii-around Thank you, yes you say that afew ,minuts ago
[17:16] <viktor>  /join #ubuntu-es
[17:17] <sweetofserbia> I was write for a free not to pay
[17:17] <sweetofserbia> I know for a pay, but you dont reed good
[17:18] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: Do you have some question about your Kubuntu we can answer?
[17:20] <sweetofserbia> <genii-around If you don know about somehing,   you dont must to write
[17:20] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: It is part of my job to make sure that people are using the channel for Kubuntu questions. You are not asking Kubuntu questions. Additionally, after being asked NOT to ask, you continue.
[17:21] <BluesKaj> !rs | sweetofserbia
[17:21] <home> #sweettalk
[17:22] <BluesKaj> they'll get the message across and tell hin where to go :)
[17:22] <genii-around> Hopefully :-)
[17:24] <sweetofserbia> Noooooooooooooooo, I say you ok but     you continue <genii-around.
[17:25]  * genii-around sips
[17:32] <phoenix_firebrd> in the debian control file what should i put for section  for kmix?
[17:58] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: Did you try asking the channel #blackberry yet?
[17:59] <sweetofserbia> What?
[18:02] <qw_> help me please
[18:02] <qw_> my aunt doesn't hear me on Skype I it I hear and it isn't present me
[18:03] <sweetofserbia> <genii-around YES
[18:04] <genii-around> sweetofserbia: OK.
[18:07] <ArchangelSe7en> qw_, make sure that "Capture " is activated in Kmix's main control panel
[18:07] <qw_> were is it?
[18:08] <qw_> please path me
[18:08] <ArchangelSe7en> and that all the "input" sliders are at their highest position
[18:08] <ArchangelSe7en> qw_, you see the speaker on your panel
[18:08] <ArchangelSe7en> to the right ?
[18:09] <qw_> i see multimediya
[18:09] <ArchangelSe7en> click on it and then click , mixer ?
[18:09] <ArchangelSe7en> wait
[18:09] <ArchangelSe7en> Multimedia ?
[18:09] <qw_> yes
[18:09] <qw_> end
[18:10] <ArchangelSe7en> click "Mixer"
[18:10] <ArchangelSe7en> make sure all th sliders are shown
[18:10] <ArchangelSe7en> including the "input" ones
[18:11] <ArchangelSe7en> you should see a slider labeled "Capture"
[18:11] <ArchangelSe7en> activate that
[18:14] <qw_> yes i am see
[18:14] <qw_> Capture and Capture 2
[18:14] <ArchangelSe7en> activate those and test them , one at a time
[18:14] <ArchangelSe7en> should work
[18:14] <qw_> nothing
[18:15] <ArchangelSe7en> qw_, open terminal , type "alsamixer" , hit F4
[18:15] <ArchangelSe7en> slide those all the way up and unmute any muted ones
[18:16] <ArchangelSe7en> good luck with that , I must go
[18:16] <qw_> http://s45.radikal.ru/i110/1207/e1/6912d7a44a6f.jpg
[18:17] <ArchangelSe7en> qw_, the Mic seems to be musted
[18:17] <ArchangelSe7en> that must be whats wrong
[18:18] <qw_> what shall I do?
[18:18] <ArchangelSe7en> use your arrow key to slide it upward
[18:18] <ArchangelSe7en> keys*
[18:18] <ArchangelSe7en> ayt gotta go
[18:22] <qw_> =(
[18:31] <qw_> didn't work
[18:31] <qw_> (
[18:44] <qw_> ITS WORK
[18:44] <genii-around> Hm
[18:45] <cypher-neo> qw_: Also. keep in mind that the "Skype Call Testing Service" is there so you can test your mic and audio setup before you end up aggravating your aunt. ;p
[18:45] <qw_> цщкл
[18:46] <qw_> soory
[18:46] <qw_> work
[18:46] <FloodBotK1> qw_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:21] <Eagle222> hallo?
[19:22] <cypher-neo> Hello Eagle222
[19:22] <Eagle222> ah ich bin doch verbunden
[19:23] <genii-around> !de
[19:24] <Eagle222> ok
[20:33] <solifugus> How can I disable or desensitize my notebook's stupid scratchpad?
[20:33] <solifugus> htf invented scratchpads and who can I hire to kill him/her?
[20:34] <jsubl2> solifugus: have you tried System Settings - input devices.  there are some settings there
[20:36] <solifugus> it is there... looked before and just looked at it again.. I don't see anything to disable or de-sensitive it, in there.....
[20:37] <solifugus> and it's hard to type with the cursor randomly jumping all over...
[20:38] <solifugus> I am still using my desktop to code... until i solve this problem, it's not reasonably possible to code or write much on this new notebook..
[20:44] <solifugus> I slowed the cursors movement a bit and disabled the text drag n drop.. that helps somewhat..
[20:44] <Lymphocyte> how can i object to something kubuntu?
[20:44] <Lymphocyte> object to calligra word in kubuntu 12.10?
[20:45] <genii-around> Hm
[20:46] <mileq> h..mmm
[22:10] <TheLordOfTime> whats the default-installed network manager
[22:11] <Riddell> networkmanager is
[22:11] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell:  using...?  plasma-widget-networkmanager?
[22:11]  * TheLordOfTime is looking for the exact package name
[22:12] <TheLordOfTime> or rather plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[22:13] <Riddell> TheLordOfTime: yes the UI .deb is plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[22:15] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell:  has anyone reported a bug in WPA enterprise authentication where it doesnt work?
[22:15] <TheLordOfTime> someone's in #ubuntu saying so, but i cant find an exact bug
[22:18] <genii-around> When the SSID is hidden maybe
[22:19] <TheLordOfTime> genii-around:  link to bug?
[22:20]  * TheLordOfTime is trying to find whether a currently filed bug exists for the issue the user is saying
[22:20] <TheLordOfTime> should i just tell them to go do `ubuntu-bug` for the program
[22:20] <Riddell> TheLordOfTime: bugs in networkmanager are tricky because it could be the frontend, the backend or the linux drivers and bugs can be reported in ubuntu or the upstream project
[22:20] <TheLordOfTime> just so they can say "I filed a bug"
[22:20] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell:  tell me about it, i see crap like that hitting the announcements channel for bugs *daily*
[22:21] <TheLordOfTime> and figuring out where they go is REALLY DAMNED HARD
[22:21] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[22:21] <Riddell> TheLordOfTime: browse away https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Network%20Management
[22:22] <genii-around> The one I was thinking of might be this old one here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/networkmanagement/+bug/422174
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell:  i personally only contribute to *truly* targetting and fixing bugs related to nginx, but that's because i help upstream those.  personally, GUI related bugs are just *evil*.  and don't get me started on crash bugs.  just don't.
[22:23]  * TheLordOfTime would rant for an hour if you did
[22:26] <genii-around> You already got an !ot in #ubuntu, don't go for one in here! ;-)
[23:13] <dougl> my effects (wobbly windows and cube) quit working - how do I restart my x server without rebooting
[23:14] <genii-around> dougl: Perhaps try just turning the effects on with alt-shift-f12  ...they may have been turned off for using too much resources by the system