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silverarrowalsamixer has a sound card config function, but it will not  launch00:01
silverarrowmain problem might not be that lubuntu will not run, but few ibooks run lubuntu and little experience is available00:04
silverarrowcould you take a look at this wxl ? http://pastebin.com/qU7hc7Ni00:08
wxlthat link you gave above suggests you should have snd_powermac loaded, i think00:08
silverarrowyes00:08
silverarrowfrom what I read, the issue might be incorrectly blacklisting of modules, but I really dont get what I am suppose to do00:09
wxladd the lines to the end of  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf00:09
wxlblacklist snd-aoa00:10
wxlblacklist snd-aoa-fabric-layout00:10
wxlblacklist snd-aoa-soundbus00:10
wxlblacklist snd-aoa-i2sbus00:10
wxlblacklist snd-aoa-codec-tas00:10
silverarrowI should run it as commands in termnial ?00:12
silverarrowsorry, I am a bit slow00:13
silverarrowin terminal at boot up....00:17
wxlgksudo /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf00:20
wxloops00:20
wxlgksudo leafpad /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf00:20
wxlwhen that opens00:20
wxladd those blacklist lines00:20
wxlsave it00:20
wxlreboot00:20
silverarrowoh00:23
wxlheaded home good luck00:26
silverarrowI get a white terminal window, with a blacklist00:27
silverarrowhi pilot00:30
area51pilothey there silvewr00:30
area51piloti need to add add a program to startup on boot ( TeamViewer7) ... any suggestions00:30
area51pilotI have the autostart file open but am not sure how to add this item00:30
silverarrowmaybe a wiki somewhere00:31
area51pilot:P00:31
area51pilotyes .. im at the autostart config file but am not sure how to add this app00:32
silverarrowme neither really00:36
silverarrowI am having issues with sound00:36
silverarrowno alsamixer00:36
silverarrowand weird blacklisting issues00:36
silverarrowand no good advice00:37
silverarrowI am done for tonight gh00:37
area51pilotgood night silver00:37
silverarrowgood luck with your issue00:38
silverarrowI shall have to continue tomorrow00:38
silverarrowhave a good night00:38
silverarrowmy head has had enough for today00:38
jonatha__hello, i'm having issues with a half-installed package (scratch from http://scratch.mit.edu)01:27
jonatha__i'd like to get the package installed correctly but i'm not sure what to do next.01:27
jonatha__here's a gist of me trying apt-get on the command line: https://gist.github.com/310218801:28
jonatha__i manually edited the .postrm and i think i might have it licked01:41
silverarrowhi02:24
wxlmy mom was almost a nun02:43
wxloops02:44
wxlthat's certainly a case of the wrong channel XD !!02:44
Unit193You got a full on pause there from me.02:46
wxli caught that :)02:46
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ike_magyar?13:26
mannerhow  is needed to lay onto the panel the  shutdown button?13:46
silverarrowhi14:51
silverarrowis anyone familiar with powerpc on?14:51
Timo_Hey lads, I was wondering if anyone knows an app, that can put every app in tray14:54
silverarrowhi14:54
Timo_For example: There is a new RSS reader called 'Lightread', but it does not (yet) have System Tray support, but I would like it to run in the backgorund in my system tray (so it does not show in ALT+TAB)14:54
nothingspecialI don't know of anything Timo_, but you could request system tray support14:55
nothingspecialthe app is very new afaik14:55
Timo_nothingspecial: yes, of course I can do that, and I am certain it will come, but it's not only for Lightread :P14:56
Timo_another question then:14:56
Timo_is it possible to keep applications running (like in Docky, or something), but not have it show up in ALT+TAB?14:57
Unit193alltray - Dock any program into the system tray, no idea if it works.14:58
Timo_Unit193: thanks, will try :D14:59
Timo_I guess my Googling failed, maybe I should've used Synaptic/Software Center :p14:59
Timo_mmm it works halfly :p15:00
Timo_The Show/Hide function does not work, unfortunatly :(15:01
latechi :)15:01
latecSomoene know the difference between lubuntu et xubuntu. I don't know wich one to have15:02
nothingspeciallubuntu will run on a lower spec computer15:03
Timo_Lubuntu runs on LXDE and Xubuntu on XFCE15:03
Timo_LXDE and XFCE are both 'Desktop Enviroments', just like Gnome and KDE15:03
latecOk15:03
Timo_Xfce is like nothingspecial stated a bit bloatier (although, still lightweight)15:03
latecI've read that Xubuntu start with only 64RAM mo and 2 Giga storage15:04
latecthat is the same for lubuntu ?15:04
Unit193That's not right for Lubuntu or Xubuntu.15:05
nothingspecialthey'll both not run with that15:05
latecHo ?15:05
latecI've read this on the official website15:05
latecStrange15:05
Unit193Not quite, it says the alternate installer only needs that, but the actual system needs more.15:07
Timo_mm KDocker did the trick :) thanks for the hlep15:07
Unit193Heh, really? Wouldn't have thought that'd work. :P15:08
Timo_well AllTray could not Show/Hide (maybe it does not support OpenBox), but KDocker works like a charm (although I would love to see mouse scrollwheel support :P)15:09
Timo_But hey, I can't be too picky :p15:09
Timo_maybe I can try to make a patch :D15:10
Timo_but probably not, as my desktop programming skills are not really good :D15:10
silverarrowis there any reason why jave would not run in lubuntu?15:11
Timo_silverarrow: it should work, but Java can be a pain15:12
Timo_What are you trying to install? OpenJDK or Oracle SUN?15:12
silverarrowI have installed the openjdk packages15:12
silverarrowon lubuntu powerpc build15:12
silverarrownot sure why it acts up,15:12
Timo_so java -version does not work?15:15
silverarrowthe ppc FAQ page only mentiones speed issues only15:18
silverarrowno, neither my bank, or the java test on their own site15:19
Timo_but the command java -version in the terminal15:20
Timo_did you try that?15:20
Timo_it could be that you don't have the IcedTea plugin installed15:20
silverarrowno, terminal version?15:20
Timo_which would result in the websites not working15:20
Timo_Do you know how to open a terminal?15:20
Timo_the program is called LXTerminal15:20
silverarrowhmm, i think I have all packages though, not completely sure15:20
silverarrowhttp://pastebin.com/gqCXsU5815:22
silverarrowthat is what I get when I write java in terminal15:22
silverarrowdoes it make any sense?15:22
Timo_could you do java -version15:23
Timo_the -version after JAVA15:23
Timo_And yes, silverarrow it makes sense, this tells u that Java is installed :)15:24
silverarrowhttp://pastebin.com/YPWnusFk15:25
Timo_type this in the terminal: sudo apt-get install icedtea-6-plugin15:26
Timo_and then restart your browser15:26
silverarrowohh, something is happening15:27
silverarrowback rightg aftger restart15:27
silverarrowworking !!!15:28
silverarrowthanks15:29
silverarrow:- )15:29
silverarrowit suddenly seemed very simple15:29
silverarrowi spend ages searching for answer15:30
silverarrowthis is more like it though, a missing plugin15:31
silverarrownot ppc special weirdness lol15:31
silverarrownot it seems it`s only the gecko plugin and dvd left that needs attention15:32
silverarrowis there a command for chicking plugins for firfox? I used to be very happy with a gecko pluging, but it was for regular pc15:36
silverarrowI could try moonlight, it`s there in package manger15:36
silverarrowbut gecko and firefox worked great as a windows mediaplayer replacement15:37
silverarrowis gecko default with lubuntu 12.04 when restricked packages are installed?15:37
silverarrowi think it was so in 11.1015:37
silverarrowwb philipballew_15:41
silverarrowjava works15:41
silverarrowdoes anyone know how to investigate the gnome mplayer setup with gecko and firefox?15:43
Timo_silverarrow: I'm glad it owrked :D15:43
Timo_Moonlight is not developed any more, and the plugin is not supported for the newer Firefox any more..15:44
silverarrowyes thanks, very clever with the icedtea plugin15:44
silverarrowI see15:44
silverarrownot gecko and mplayer?15:44
silverarroweither I mean?15:44
Timo_You *could* download the plugin, extract it, change the 'supported version number' and repackage it15:44
silverarrowI liked that one a lot15:44
silverarrowhmm15:45
silverarrowrepackage?15:45
silverarrownot sure I am clever enough15:45
Timo_there is a tutorial on the internet (I did it myself osme time ago)15:46
silverarrowI even see they ask for ppc testers for 12.10 but I struggle too much with the basic I feel15:46
Timo_but as I said, it's old, so it will not always support the newer Silverlight options15:46
silverarrowI see15:46
Timo_and the gecko thing, it's also a plugin, afaik. You could try to search in synaptic15:46
Timo_or software center15:46
Timo_but I can't help you out right now, I've got to go :P (someones waiting for me!)15:47
Timo_Good luck! I'll be back some day :P15:47
silverarrowI seem to have it, it just doesn`t work15:48
silverarrowgecko I mean15:48
silverarrowis it ppc weirdness that make streams difficult?15:50
silverarrowwhat is the best flash replacer?15:52
silverarrowor any really15:53
silverarrowI suppose I need to try them out15:53
silverarrowis opera suppose to be in package manager?15:56
PaylHi guys, can you help me with black screen after booting new Lubuntu? With F8 i'm able to get to system without GUI i think.16:19
PaylI've no clue why GUI doesn't work, startscreen with logo is displayed, but after few moments it just goes black.16:20
silverarrowhi again16:37
silverarrowhow to make streaming work with gecko firefox and mplayer16:41
silverarrowif I mess around with vlc mozilla plugin, and vlc in firefox, is it possible to get back to the mplayer gecko set up?16:49
silverarrowdvds are playing17:00
silverarrowyoohoo17:00
silverarrowboth vlc and mplayer17:00
silverarrownow I regret adding vlc a bit17:00
silverarrowa lot of this non-pc talk seems just silly17:28
silverarrowthe ibook17:28
silverarrowsorry...@17:28
silverarrowdoing a benchmark test and report, this ibook shows having a celeron M processor17:28
silverarrowwhich sort of makes in a pc more than a notpc17:29
silverarrowI don`t get why powerpc build and mac are such oposites17:30
silverarrowto the rest of the pcs I mean17:30
silverarrowhi17:45
silverarrowwhat lib is needed for the gecko plugin to work?17:46
silverarrowor perhaps something interfering with it17:46
silverarrowhi jonathanwallace17:56
jonathanwallacehey silverarrow17:58
silverarrowhow are you?17:59
silverarrowI`m trying to make online tv stream in mplayer gecko setup17:59
silverarrowwhich is the default I think17:59
silverarrowat least after restricted packages is installed17:59
silverarrowI wonder if I could be missing some package18:00
silverarrowi think restricted packages should include everything though18:00
silverarrowis anyone clever with gecko and mplayer?18:17
silverarrowwhat alternatives are there to flash really?18:18
jonathanwallacesilverarrow: i'm not too sure, i usually use things like VLC if linux apps don't cut it18:24
jonathanwallacei'm a lazy linux user18:25
silverarrowwell, me too really, what ever works18:25
silverarrowif I install vlc mozilla plugin I am stuck with it18:25
silverarrowI have a very hard time getting back to the gnome mplayer gecko settup18:26
silverarrowlubuntu runs really nicely now, but with a few issues that still need atension18:27
silverarrowI am tempted to try vlc and molizza plugin18:27
silverarrowI haven῭t been able to make it stream the local tv channel before, but I know some have18:28
silverarrowat some point developers went for mplayer and abandoned vlc18:28
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silverarrowthough VLC was my favorite for years18:33
silverarrowstill is18:33
silverarrowbut mplayer works nicely18:40
silverarrowwhat are flash alternatives for powerpc build ?18:59
zpocMessieur dame bonsoir :)19:56
zpocQuelqu'un aurait-il un peu de patience pour un petit problème de MBR?19:57
Unit193!fr19:58
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.19:58
zpocSorry ^^19:58
silverarrowpidgin crashes20:43
silverarrowas soon as I have joined a channel it crashes20:44
silverarrowi think it might be a bug of some sort20:44
silverarrowI tried to go on irc the first time I booted 12.04 and it has behaved the same way every since20:45
silverarrowI keep wondering if I miss some codecs for windows media plugins, like gecko for mplayer20:50
silverarrownot sure hot to check it either20:50
silverarrow I initially thought everything wold be in the two restriced packages, but I`m not so sure anymore20:51
silverarrowany ideas about that?20:51
silverarrowhi gomiboy20:51
gomiboyHi :)20:53
silverarrowanything happening?20:57
silverarrowhi margo20:57
silverarrowI`m still working on my ibook installation20:57
silverarrowwhich is gradually getting better20:57
silverarroware you in lubuntu gomiboy  and margo  ?20:58
silverarrowwhen I try to run web tv in firefox, it  blinks black, then cuts20:59
silverarrowI`m wondering if I might miss some libs or codecs?20:59
gomiboyyes, on an exotic hardware, like you (toshiba ac100, arm processor)21:00
gomiboycan't help there, no flash here, only html5...21:00
silverarrowor since it is powerpc lubuntu, it might be blacklisting issues21:00
silverarrowit is gecko mplayer setup, for windows media player oriented stream21:01
silverarrowI could try installing moonlight, but it seems to be an abandoned project these days21:02
silverarrowhi jarnos21:02
silverarrowor vlc mozilla stuff21:02
silverarrowthought, mplayer has worked well before21:03
silverarrowI think something is missng21:03
jarnossilverarrow, you are missing a point.21:05
silverarrowyeah, could be21:09
silverarrowjarnos: what point then?21:10
Unit193silverarrow: PPC isn't as supported as 32bit, you end up having to do workarounds and trying a bunch of things to get it working. PPC is a bit dead, so it's only small communities still doing stuff with it, hence no flash.21:10
silverarrowI just have to keep searching for the right workanroud21:11
Myrttipidgin crashing in IRC usage isn't news21:23
Myrttiit isn't an IRC client although it has some IRC capabilities21:23
silverarrowit has worked before though21:27
silverarrowI added mozilla, which works fine for the moment21:27
silverarrowsorry, chatzilla21:27
silverarrowhi22:40
silverarrowis there a way to test and configure gnash+22:49
silverarrow?22:49
silverarrowand I am wondering if I could install both gnash and lightspark at once, with out messing up22:49
silverarrowgnash is default in 12.04, but not the browser plugin package22:50
silverarrowhow do I make sure the gnash browser plugin is wroking in 12.04?22:53
silverarrowdoes anyone use gnash or lightspark?23:01
Worrygood evening everyone.  may i ask a question?23:05
silverarrowany gnash knowlegeable people aournd?23:05
silverarrowthat`s what we do here lol23:05
silverarrowhoping some clever guys are around23:06
Worrywell, we may hae a similar question.  i would like to know why flash and shockwave do not seem to work on lubuntu anymore23:06
silverarrowWorry, are you new to lubuntu?23:06
Unit193Worry: Just ask and if someone knows...23:06
Worryyes, iam23:06
Worrysorry if i am making errors:)23:06
Unit193What packages do you have?  Did you have it working before?23:06
silverarrowadobe flash has always been something you had to install on your own23:07
Worryi did  a clean sweep and iinstalled the latest version of lubuntu23:07
Unit193It won't have it by default.23:07
Worryi am aware of that'23:07
silverarrowI am trying to make gnash or lightspark work too23:07
Worryalso, adobe flash will no longer be supporting linxu23:07
Worrylinux23:07
Unit193I recommend adding the !partner repo and installing adobe-flashplugin.23:07
silverarrowyou added the two restricted packages?23:08
silverarrowin package manager?23:08
Unit193Worry: Not quite, pepperflash is how they're doing it.23:08
Unit193(And security for normal)23:08
silverarrowpepperflash?23:08
Worryokay, i feel dizzy:)23:08
Worryheh23:08
Unit193!partner23:08
ubottuCanonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »23:08
Worryokay, i will cut that one and paste it.  thanks:)23:09
silverarrowWorry: yeah, that`s what a few hours of lubuntu mess does to us lol23:09
silverarrowmy god, all day on this23:09
Unit193After that, try  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin23:09
Worryoh i get those to download and supposedly install, but i get the i am dead jim message on firefox and chromium23:10
Unit193And you did restart the browsers?23:10
Worryalways:)23:11
Unit193Try   dpkg -l |grep flash   and see what it says.23:11
Worryi am not reboot shy:)23:11
Worrythanks unit, i will cut that23:11
WorryI like Lubuntu because it allows my Dell Inspiron 8100 to work:)23:12
Worrythey do not make laptop keyboards like that anymore:)23:13
Worryis dell a bad word?  ;)23:14
Unit193Hope not, I have two.  I rather like them.  What did the output gibve you?>23:14
Unit193(Maybe their keyboard aren't good >_> )23:14
Worryi am using another laptop now with edubuntu, but i will try it later23:15
Worry:)  i like the keyboard because it is solid and meant to last:)23:15
Unit193But with the issue at hand, flash not working.23:15
Worryit worked previously.  just the latest version of lubuntu is a dud on it23:16
silverarrowhave u used gnash Unit193 ?23:16
Unit193No.23:16
Worryyeppers23:16
Worryswf, lightspark23:16
Worrysummoning demons, etc23:17
Worry;)23:17
Worryit was the only lxde system that ever really worked for me:)23:18
Worryfedora, opensuse ldxe systems were garbage23:19
Worryand i am not into mongrel(puppy linux);)23:19
Unit193Those systems work for others, but YMMV.23:20
Worryi am powerfully stupid though:)23:20
Worrykde exceeds my intelligence quotient:)23:21
Unit193Give me a sec, I'm pretty sure I didn't have issues with it, are there any messages with flash on screen?23:21
Worryi will try it when i am on that system.  i have more than one laptop:)23:21
Worryi am on edubuntu:)23:21
Worrybut, i have cut and past the screen for your links and remarks23:22
Worryi do not want to give up on lubuntu23:23
Worrythe messages are just plugins not installed, even when they are23:24
Worryor it just gives me a nice blue screen in the video area.23:24
Worryor, it just falls over and crashes23:25
Worrylike a wino at 2 am23:25
Worry:)23:25
Worryshould i be entirely serious and logical here?23:26
Worry:(23:26
Worryi will stick to the point with fewer pleasantries23:28
Unit193Well, it's good on one computer but failing on another.23:30
silverarrownot like you are interrupting anything at the moment23:30
Worrythank you.23:30
Unit193So, I'd recommend you try to disable hardware acceleration, and hope it helps. :P23:30
Unit193Flash is black magic, if it works, it works. :P23:31
Worryi will see if it does23:31
Worryi will chant;)23:31
Worry'laptops are possessed;)23:31
Unit193Same versions of firefox, same sources for the plugin, yet on one it's not working.23:32
Worryyes23:33
Worrylubuntu did not do the last upgrade well, unlike xubuntu and ubuntu23:33
Unit193I'll be doing a clean install in a VM here soon.  My upgrades went well actually.23:34
Worrythe only one i have never gotten to work right ever is kde23:34
silverarrowhow do I take a screen shot in lubuntu?23:38
silverarrowthere is  no screen shot key on macs23:38
Unit193Print screen, or type scrot in terminal.23:38
Worrythank you for your time23:39
Unit193Worry: Sorry mate, may try #ubuntu if it's a current issue.23:39
Worrythanks. see you later23:40
silverarrowwhere does the screen shot store when typing scrot in terminal?23:44
Unit193Current dir.23:53

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