| bretth | if i write an app that uses "Application Indicators" for Ubuntu12.04, will it be backwards compatible with Ubuntu11.x ? | 00:40 |
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| bretth | (using Python) | 00:40 |
| mths | what's the language for ubuntu development? | 01:24 |
| mths | hello? | 01:25 |
| mths | anyone here? | 01:25 |
| bretth | mths, python | 02:07 |
| bretth | i notice that from python i can "import appindicator" | 02:11 |
| bretth | is that a valid way for my script to know that it is running in Ubuntu Unity? | 02:12 |
| bretth | for example if my script needs to also support, Gnome3 or Cinnamon. | 02:12 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:02 |
| dpm | morning dholbach | 07:14 |
| dpm | good morning all | 07:14 |
| toabctl | dholbach, dpm is it possible to update the pictag package? the dependencies are wong. see #1024165 | 09:15 |
| dholbach | toabctl, send a mail to the ARB list with a link to a branch or source package please | 09:15 |
| toabctl | dholbach, ok. thx | 09:16 |
| int_ua | Hi :) Is it ok that my app is pending for re-review 9 hours since I've fixed the problem with it? | 12:34 |
| john__ | Hi, I am using subprocess.Popen in my app. I am giving a file path as an argument but when there is a space, python only reads argument string upto the space and ignores rest. How to solve this? | 12:45 |
| zoopster | int_ua: it is ok...give reviewers time to review it again | 13:43 |
| int_ua | zoopster: thanks :) | 13:47 |
| Phoenix87 | hallo | 14:02 |
| Phoenix87 | where's the best place to post announcements for developers interested in a project? | 14:02 |
| Phoenix87 | would this channel be such a place? | 14:02 |
| mikehaas763 | Hi. I am going to begin developing an open source program from an idea I have. My focus in the beginning is having it for Ubuntu/Linux distros. However, if it takes off I would like to be able to release windows/mac os x versions. Java is not an option and is actually THE reason I am developing this program because java has too many issues (performance mostly) on linux unless you have a blazing fast machine. What | 14:11 |
| mikehaas763 | are some good language/gui kit combos to use? | 14:11 |
| Phoenix87 | mikehaas763: wxwidgets and python maybe | 14:16 |
| int_ua | <mikehaas763> python/Qt ? | 14:42 |
| toabctl | dholbach, dpm when i try to update my app with quickly, quickly changes debian/control and debian/changelog. i wanted to fix #1024165 and wanted to release a new version with "quickly submitubuntu" but the result is not usable. | 15:26 |
| toabctl | see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~toabctl/pictag/quickly_trunk/revision/55 | 15:27 |
| dholbach | I'm afraid I don't know how to deal with this | 15:27 |
| Phoenix87 | My app is in the Waiting on Developer list on Trello but doesn't show up in the Contestants list. How is that so? | 19:20 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: also, if you ha ve a couple of spare mins, could you help me with definitively solving this? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1274/feedback/ thanks | 19:22 |
| mterry | Phoenix87, hello! | 19:23 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: hi | 19:23 |
| mterry | Phoenix87, so the desktop issue is tricky, since quickly likes to override debian/rules and such. Your modifications won't keep. | 19:23 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: i prefer to stop using quickly for now | 19:24 |
| mterry | Phoenix87, the debian/rules that quickly uses for submitubuntu in 12.04 has several hacks like moving the desktop file and fixing up paths | 19:24 |
| mterry | Phoenix87, OK | 19:24 |
| mterry | Phoenix87, so let's start with the base that quickly gives you. Let me see what 12.04's quickly's debian/rules looks like | 19:25 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: anyway is the deb i have uploaded on my ppa good, or do I have to push another version? | 19:25 |
| Phoenix87 | ok | 19:25 |
| mterry | Phoenix87, it certainly installs into /opt, but as you noted, the user can't run it :-/ | 19:25 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: oh so this is the version that will be included in the software center? I though that the current deb would serve as the purpouse of judgement only | 19:26 |
| mterry | Phoenix87, I don't know actually. I'm not judging this, I just work on quickly | 19:28 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: another issue is that related to the prerm and postinst scripts. If i manually package my app with debuild -S they are not included in the deb compiled by launchpad | 19:28 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: this is the debian/rules generated by 12.04: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090418/ | 19:31 |
| mterry | Phoenix87, hah, you wish it were that simple. If you package --extras with up-to-date 12.04: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1090415/ | 19:32 |
| mterry | so there is a lot of junk there, which I can explain. You might only want some of it | 19:33 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: ops i forgot --extras | 19:33 |
| mterry | Some of that is working around sub-optimal setup.py that earlier versions of quickly shipped. | 19:34 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: ok now my rules looks pretty much like yours | 19:34 |
| mterry | But that desktop section at least is important (moving it and sed'ing it) | 19:35 |
| mterry | And same with the DATA_DIRS and gsettings stuff if you use gsettings | 19:35 |
| mterry | OK | 19:35 |
| mterry | So do you know how to manually package up an app? | 19:35 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: i guess so | 19:36 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: I have used the combo debuild / dput to have the job done | 19:36 |
| mterry | Yup, just that should do it. debuild -S -i -I and dput ppa: | 19:36 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: the deb currently in my ppa has been manually packaged like this | 19:36 |
| mterry | cool | 19:36 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: but as I mentioned earlier, that deb is missing prerm and postinst | 19:37 |
| Phoenix87 | I had to manually add them into the debian folder in order to have them show up in the deb | 19:37 |
| mterry | That's good. You shouldn't need them... What was in them? | 19:37 |
| Phoenix87 | the PYTHON_MODULES stuff | 19:38 |
| Phoenix87 | without them the program won't run issuing /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/gtumbler/bin/gtumbler | 19:38 |
| Phoenix87 | it raises a import module name not found | 19:39 |
| Phoenix87 | i guess this is due to the fact that it is installing into /opt | 19:39 |
| mterry | Ah, OK... Well as long as you got it working now | 19:41 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: so it is OK to manually include those scripts? | 19:42 |
| mterry | Phoenix87, if they are needed... I'm not actually familiar with that side of the issue. I didn't think they were needed, but you sound like you've talked to dholbach about it, who is authoritative for such things | 19:44 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: yeah but I didn't receive a reply from him about this, so I'm not sure about it | 19:45 |
| mterry | Phoenix87, well, I thought they weren't needed for /opt, but again, my recollection is less important than whether they are needed in practice. :) | 19:46 |
| mterry | hold on a sec, let me ask stgraber | 19:46 |
| Geochr | Hi all, I have succesfully publishe a magazine in Ubuntu software center but is available only in 12.04... How can i make the magazine available not only in 12.04 ? | 19:47 |
| Phoenix87 | mterry: ok. thank you! :D | 19:47 |
| mterry | or rather, jump into #ubuntu-arb for a sec | 19:47 |
| mterry | And ask yourself, since I'm not sure I'm going to ask it right | 19:47 |
| Geochr | is there any help ? | 19:51 |
| zoopster | Geochr: what mag and what distroseries do you want to make it availablef for? | 20:13 |
| zoopster | Geochr: we default to the latest, but you can request others in the feedback...if it's already published, I can make it available in other distroseries | 20:14 |
| Geochr | zoopster, the magazine called "Ubuntistas" and we want to be available and in other distroseries | 20:16 |
| zoopster | Geochr: which others? I can go back to maverick if you wish | 20:17 |
| zoopster | Geochr: I take that back...I can only go back to natty now since mav is eol | 20:18 |
| Geochr | ok from natty since prencise then | 20:19 |
| zoopster | Geochr: ok #14 is done (give it a bit to show up) and #13 will be when it passes qa on Monday | 20:22 |
| zoopster | Geochr: just put that request in the feedback when you submit | 20:22 |
| Geochr | zoopster, thanks a lot | 20:23 |
| hiuhu | Anyone good with php programming please help me understand this code coz am stuck @ http://pastebin.com/3hAMaFVt | 21:35 |
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