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| lhw | hey guys. i need somebody to nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1023197 for 12.04. whom should i talk too about this? logan does not provide any contact information | 13:07 |
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| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1023197 in s2tc "Sync s2tc 0~git20110809-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] | 13:07 |
| lhw | well he has a freenode nick in his profile but i havent caught him online yet. and whois doesnt show nay information | 13:07 |
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| LoT | who here is actually alive and willing to test a bug for me | 14:07 |
| LoT | this bug was referenced on Ask Ubuntu, but I've confirmed "Not a Bug" in 12.04, as `/etc/rc.local` is run absolutely correctly in every instance (I have 60 different test rc.locals, so...) micahg, how do you think this one should be handled (its marked as "Incomplete" now)? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/882254 | 14:15 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 882254 in sysvinit "/etc/rc.local is not executed at startup " [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:15 |
| micahg | LoT: just leave it as incomplete (confirming things work is great, that means we don't know of a bug, but doesn't mean one doesn't exist), it'll expire in due time if untouched | 14:17 |
| micahg | it seems like an edge case to begin with | 14:18 |
| LoT | micahg: i agree, shoudl I comment i've confirmed it works as expected in 60 different cases? | 14:22 |
| * LoT has WAY too much time on his hands to confirm/refute bugs today | 14:22 | |
| LoT | (that will reset the expiry timer though) | 14:22 |
| micahg | hrm, last comment was about a month ago | 14:25 |
| LoT | micahg: indeed, this was *just referenced* in an Ask Ubuntu question about... oh... | 14:26 |
| LoT | 45 minutes ago | 14:26 |
| LoT | so...\ | 14:26 |
| LoT | not sure whether I should reference this bug was dredged back up on Ask Ubuntu and I ran tests which showed that rc.local runs correctly. | 14:27 |
| micahg | LoT: I think that it's understood that it works for most people,, but some still have the issue, so more information from them would probably be helpful if it exists | 14:27 |
| LoT | (or rather as is expected for that file during bootup) | 14:27 |
| LoT | indeed, i'll leave it be | 14:27 |
| micahg | LoT: that was mentioned in comment 14 already | 14:27 |
| LoT | i'll comment on the question that dredged it up on Ask Ubuntu though | 14:27 |
| micahg | that makes senes | 14:27 |
| micahg | *sense | 14:27 |
| LoT | mhm. you know, i should write an extended post there about 'How to determine whether a bug listed on launchpad is really is a bug?' | 14:33 |
| LoT | include that 'Bugs identified as "Incomplete" are not able to be confirmed or are missing information, or rather could be an edge-case instance of functionality not working" | 14:33 |
| LoT | or something. | 14:33 |
| LoT | micahg: i also think that bugsquad/bugcontrol representatives should host a classroom session about bugs, sort of like a "Bugs 101" day or something, where we go and help educate the community about bugs and answer general questions about how we work... but that's my opinion. should i start a discussion on that on the bugsquad mailing list? | 14:34 |
| micahg | sure, would be a great Ubuntu User day session | 14:35 |
| LoT | coincidentially, pleia2 and i were discussing that during Ubuntu User Days xD | 14:35 |
| LoT | during the community roundtable xD | 14:36 |
| LoT | now where'd that draft go... | 14:36 |
| LoT | DAMN YOU GMAIL FOR BEING STUPID | 14:36 |
| LoT | apparently they dont save drafts data | 14:36 |
| LoT | they *used* to | 14:36 |
| * LoT wrote up a two page email about this yesterday before leaving work, and now gmail forgot about it | 14:37 | |
| LoT | micahg: do bugcontrol people monitor the bugsquad mailing list as well as the bugcontrol mailing list? | 14:41 |
| LoT | or should I just add the bugcontrol list as a CC | 14:41 |
| micahg | well, some are subscribed to both, I don't have exact stats | 14:43 |
| LoT | might as well CC the bugcontrol mailing list while i'm at it, then. | 14:43 |
| LoT | i know i'm subscribed to both, but i'm subscribed to a lot of mailing lists :P | 14:44 |
| LoT | micahg: i've sent out the email, feel free to comment :) | 14:45 |
| LoT | eesh, PHP is memory-hungry... *walks off to address broken PHP* | 14:45 |
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| lhw | so nobody here who can nominate a bug or knows whom to contact? | 15:15 |
| LoT | hm? | 15:16 |
| LoT | lhw: out of curiosity which bug? | 15:16 |
| lhw | i asked that a few hours back | 15:16 |
| LoT | lhw i wasnt here a few hours back | 15:16 |
| LoT | so therefore i have a right to ask | 15:16 |
| LoT | which bug :) | 15:16 |
| lhw | okay wait a moment | 15:16 |
| lhw | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1023197 | 15:16 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1023197 in s2tc "Sync s2tc 0~git20110809-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] | 15:16 |
| LoT | looks like this was done? | 15:16 |
| LoT | that only gets synced to Quantal | 15:16 |
| LoT | you'd have to backport or SRU to get into Precise or earlier | 15:16 |
| LoT | micahg could easily explain that process | 15:17 |
| lhw | thats what i mean | 15:17 |
| LoT | especially since micah's a MOTU | 15:17 |
| LoT | that's a separate procedure and bug thing though | 15:17 |
| LoT | lhw: where did you want that to end up in, Precise? | 15:17 |
| lhw | according to the wiki i need someone to nominate the bug then subscribe ubuntu-sru | 15:17 |
| lhw | yes | 15:17 |
| * LoT opens the source package | 15:17 | |
| lhw | the current version in precise has a severe multiarch bug | 15:18 |
| LoT | im... | 15:18 |
| LoT | um... | 15:18 |
| LoT | the SRU team is already subscribed | 15:18 |
| lhw | yeah i did that earlier | 15:18 |
| LoT | *they* should be the ones to target the bug to Precise | 15:18 |
| LoT | at least IMO | 15:19 |
| lhw | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure step 3 says someone needs to nominate the bug | 15:20 |
| lhw | whom should i contact about this? | 15:21 |
| LoT | hang on a sec | 15:21 |
| LoT | lhw: ScottK is on the SRU team, should be able to help you | 15:21 |
| ScottK | What's the question? | 15:21 |
| LoT | ScottK: Context: LP Bug 1023197 | 15:21 |
| lhw | the article about bug supervisors is not helpful btw | 15:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1023197 in s2tc "Sync s2tc 0~git20110809-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023197 | 15:21 |
| LoT | apparently this is now SRU'd? | 15:21 |
| ScottK | lhw: I just joined, so I've got no context. | 15:21 |
| LoT | ScottK: he wants the aforementioned bug to be targetted to Precise for SRU-ing | 15:22 |
| * ScottK looks. | 15:22 | |
| LoT | i may be on bugcontrol, but the system won't let me target bugs to Precise or any other release | 15:22 |
| * LoT isnt sure why | 15:23 | |
| ScottK | Seems like the one you want to target is Bug #1012266 . | 15:23 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1012266 in s2tc "amd64 and i386 version uses same /etc/alternative and conflicts" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1012266 | 15:23 |
| ScottK | That's the actual problem. | 15:23 |
| LoT | lhw: ^ | 15:23 |
| ScottK | I did that one. | 15:24 |
| ScottK | Someone will need to prepare an upload, get it sponsored, etc. | 15:24 |
| LoT | ScottK: sorry to pull you in from whatever you were doing, just wanted someone on SRU team to help out here :P | 15:24 |
| * LoT returns to silently sifting through bugs | 15:24 | |
| LoT | W 3 | 15:24 |
| LoT | UGH irssi | 15:24 |
| lhw | well i committed the fix to debian a while ago but bug reports kept popping up on launchpad. so i thought this probably should get fixed sometime | 15:25 |
| ScottK | The process is to make a debdiff targetting precise-proposed (I'd version it Sync s2tc 0~git20110809-2.1) and then subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug. | 15:26 |
| ScottK | lhw: ^^^ will get it in the queue to get uploaded and fixed in precise. | 15:27 |
| * ScottK has to go. | 15:27 | |
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| lhw | okay i did that. lets see how it turns out | 16:14 |
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| TheLordOfTime | where're crash reports sent to again? I know they're bugcontrol restricted, but still | 21:54 |
| micahg | no where AFAIK, there's just a launchpad team subscribed | 21:55 |
| hggdh | micahg, TheLordOfTime: actually, https://errors.ubuntu.com | 21:58 |
| TheLordOfTime | yeah micahg misinterpreted what i said :P | 21:58 |
| TheLordOfTime | hggdh: thanks | 21:58 |
| hggdh | yw | 21:58 |
| * TheLordOfTime knew it was $something.ubuntu.com, but forgot the something | 21:58 | |
| hggdh | well, pretty much everything here is something.ubuntu.com... | 21:58 |
| TheLordOfTime | except LP bugs :P | 21:59 |
| TheLordOfTime | oh dear i found a bug in the sorting of the errors on errors.u.c | 22:00 |
| TheLordOfTime | and it relates to the >1000000 bugs we have | 22:00 |
| hggdh | heh | 22:01 |
| hggdh | open a bug on it :-) | 22:01 |
| TheLordOfTime | lol... | 22:02 |
| TheLordOfTime | its a bug i can work around, but still | 22:02 |
| TheLordOfTime | hggdh: micahg: how can you tell if a package is unmaintained? | 22:10 |
| micahg | TheLordOfTime: hrm? Ubuntu doesn't have maintainers, most packages are maintained in Debian | 22:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | micahg: that's what i meant by "unmaintained" whether here or there, how do you tell if a package is abandoned aka "unmaintained" | 22:13 |
| micahg | TheLordOfTime: well, if there are RC bugs open in Debian for more than a month, that's a pretty good sign, but that might also depend on the bug | 22:14 |
| hggdh | TheLordOfTime: this would apply mostly for Universe packages -- main packages always have a maintainer (in Debian) | 22:15 |
| hggdh | and UBuntu | 22:15 |
| hggdh | also a good indicator is http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned | 22:16 |
| micahg | TheLordOfTime: is there a specific package? | 22:16 |
| TheLordOfTime | micahg: sort of, but apparently its an instance where i need to go yell at someone for using ancient hardy-era software :P | 22:16 |
| micahg | TheLordOfTime: I still have a hardy package on one of my machines since it was dropped from the archive | 22:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | micahg: someone's using knetworkmanager which was dropped since hardy | 22:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | they're on precise | 22:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | no clue how its still existent | 22:17 |
| micahg | TheLordOfTime: why not? packages aren't removed on upgrade unless there's a conflict of some sort | 22:18 |
| * TheLordOfTime shrugs | 22:19 | |
| TheLordOfTime | just sayin | 22:19 |
| micahg | TheLordOfTime: that's just a transitional package for network-manager-kde | 22:20 |
| micahg | TheLordOfTime: what's the problem? | 22:21 |
| TheLordOfTime | micahg: private issue, not one occurring on IRC | 22:21 |
| * TheLordOfTime didnt realize knetworkmanager was dropped after Hardy until he checked LP | 22:21 | |
| micahg | TheLordOfTime: rmadison is a nice tool | 22:22 |
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