[05:24]  * Kilos peeks in
[05:24] <Kilos> hmm lights are on but nobody home
[06:05] <Kilos> hi SmilyBorg 
[06:05] <SmilyBorg> Morning :-)
[06:18] <Trixar_za> Kilos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL
[06:18] <Trixar_za> AND it's GPL compatible >.<
[06:22] <SmilyBorg> hehe
[06:22] <SmilyBorg> awesome
[06:23] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[06:31] <oom_koos_> Morning all
[06:32] <Kilos> hi oom_koos_ did you win?
[06:32] <oom_koos_> hi Kilos, I think so, will have to test today and see, first time working with iptables so it's all still a little greek to me
[06:33] <Kilos> good luck
[06:33] <oom_koos_> thanks
[06:34] <Kilos> you tried the guys at #glug.za hey
[06:34] <Kilos> thats their game
[06:35] <oom_koos_> ah thanks i'll pop in there if its not working. thanks for the tip
[06:35] <Kilos> yw
[08:19] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[08:21] <charl> hi
[08:22] <Kilos> hiya charl 
[08:22] <charl> hi Kilos 
[08:23] <charl> skype finally upgraded their linux client
[08:28] <superfly> hi Kilos
[08:28] <superfly> charl: uh, that happened like a month ago
[08:29] <charl> superfly: i did a reinstall yesterday evening and only noticed now
[08:29] <charl> it doesn't seem like they notify you through the client
[10:18] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[10:18]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[10:19] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[10:19] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[10:21] <inetpro> Maaz: what's for lunch?
[10:21] <Maaz> inetpro: they say Debonairs Pizza is the leading pizza restaurant in Africa. http://www.debonairs.co.za/
[10:21] <inetpro> hmm...
[10:22] <Kilos> lol
[10:22] <inetpro> Kilos: hoe gaan dit?
[10:22] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[10:22] <Kilos> goed dankie en daar?
[10:22] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[10:22] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[10:23] <Kilos> was nou net by bure wat printer cartridges doen en lyk of hulle n tak van hulle besigheid sal oopmaak vir data recovery vir my
[10:28] <charl> bah if debonairs is the leading pizza restaurant i really don
[10:28] <charl> don't want to see the others
[10:34] <Kilos> lol
[11:00] <magespawn> howdy all
[11:00] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn http://wiki.cgm.ucdavis.edu/groups/cgmwiki/wiki/f1322/" 1 day, 2 hours, 9 minutes and 5 seconds ago
[11:05] <Kilos> hiya magespawn 
[11:07] <magespawn> how you doing Kilos?
[11:07] <Kilos> not too bad ty and you magespawn ?
[11:08] <magespawn> busy, thanks for the link
[11:09] <Kilos> yw. looks i might get a recovery service going with neighbours
[11:09] <magespawn> cool
[11:10] <magespawn> extra income
[11:10] <Kilos> that link looks interesting hey. you make an image of faulty drive the use chkdsk to repair their own files
[11:10] <Kilos> not extra, only
[11:10] <Kilos> will be first income since 2003
[11:11] <Kilos> and they need someone to look after their 9 pcs as well so i gotta get up to date with win7
[11:11] <Kilos> grrr
[11:13] <magespawn> bit of a learning curve there then
[11:14] <Kilos> yeah lol but feels good to have some rigting again
[11:15] <Kilos> they asked me how they gotta give quotes for data recovery and repair
[11:15] <Kilos> i have no idea what to tell them\
[11:23] <Kilos> sflr didnt come on today and just disappeared last night
[11:23] <Kilos> hope its only internet probs
[11:23] <magespawn> i am not sure either, you could charge for time or per mb of data recovered. the second one might give the customer better value for money
[11:25] <magespawn> no way to find out, like email?
[11:25] <Tonberry> unless you start recovering .avi s
[11:26] <Kilos> yeah avis are massive
[11:26] <Kilos> magespawn, what you mean?
[11:28] <Kilos> you mean mail sflr
[11:28] <magespawn> yup
[11:29] <Kilos> just did , took a while to figure out what you meant
[11:29] <Kilos> like quotes  etc had head stuck
[11:29] <Kilos> hehe
[11:36] <magespawn> it happens
[11:40] <magespawn> windows is not that difficult to work, but it does not always allow you to do everything
[11:41] <Kilos> methinks i will only need to help if there are probs. wont be doing any fancy stuff
[11:42] <Kilos> maybe lotsa formats and reinstalls
[11:50] <charl> phew not even 14:00 and i'm already worn out
[11:50] <charl> how's it going with the rest of you people, looking forward to the weekend?
[11:50] <charl> let's hear it from the ballies for a change :)
[11:55] <Kilos> lol we be kiff
[11:56] <Kilos> we dont use the 5 days after the weekend to recover
[11:58] <charl> :D
[11:58] <charl> i need two days to recover from the week
[11:58] <charl> and then 5 days to recover from the weekend
[11:59] <Kilos> lol
[11:59] <Kilos> im even complaining about voda tower on twitter now
[12:00] <Kilos> they stopped answering emails
[12:00] <Kilos> the swines
[12:34] <magespawn> maybe you sent them too much mail
[12:35] <Guest9576> hy ppl
[12:35] <Kilos> hi Guest9576 
[12:36] <Guest9576> hw url 
[12:36] <Kilos> magespawn, one does what one has to if no attention is given to complaints
[12:36] <magespawn> Kilos not sure.
[12:36] <Kilos> we kiff and you
[12:37] <magespawn> Kilos what is the name of your channel?
[12:37] <Kilos> it cant take over 2 weeks to sent a tech to the tower, he lives in pta
[12:37] <Kilos> what channel magespawn ?
[12:37] <magespawn> your channel
[12:38] <Kilos> oh ##kilos
[12:38] <djTebzen> any galz?
[12:38] <magespawn> djTebzen:  not that kind of channel
[12:38] <Kilos> nope djTebzen this is a working ubuntu channel
[12:39] <Kilos> linux channel
[12:39] <djTebzen> oh i am new at this hey 
[12:40] <magespawn> this is the irc channel for the ubuntu-za community.
[12:40] <magespawn> Ubuntu South Africa http://ubuntu-za.org 
[12:40] <djTebzen> ok sori
[12:40] <magespawn> no worries
[12:41] <SmilyBorg> I think I understand djTebzen's question now
[12:41] <SmilyBorg> they were using http://www.chatmosphere.org/
[12:41] <SmilyBorg> which looks like a hookup chat site
[12:42] <SmilyBorg> got adult friend finder on the front page too
[12:43] <Kilos> yip i think its a bb thingie
[12:44] <chat83381> test
[12:44] <SmilyBorg> yup. dodgy site
[12:44] <SmilyBorg> it lists random popular channels on the front page too
[12:45] <magespawn> not so dodgy, but does give ppl the wrong idea
[12:48] <SmilyBorg> I think it's dodgy that they are basically re-branding freenode as their own system and not giving any credit unless you really dig hard
[12:49] <SmilyBorg> hmm, seems they do pull in multiple IRC networks though
[12:50] <SmilyBorg> so a but of an IRC aggregater of sorts
[12:50] <SmilyBorg> s/but/bit/
[12:50] <SmilyBorg> oh well. time to find some lunch
[12:50] <magespawn> just branding it as chat and with the adult friend finder does give the wrong idea.
[12:53] <Kilos> eish oom_koos has a bad connection
[13:17] <Kilos> hmm peer back in town
[13:30] <charl> bah
[13:30] <charl> peer sucks
[13:30] <charl> he is such an a-hole!
[13:31] <Kilos> lol
[13:34] <inetpro> let's go sort him out, where does he live?
[13:36] <Kilos> hehe
[13:37] <Kilos> Maaz, google peer
[13:37] <Maaz> Kilos: "Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility: Homepage" http://www.peer.org/ :: "Peer | Define Peer at Dictionary.com" http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/peer :: "Peer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer :: "Welcome to Pacific Earthquake Engineering Research Center - PEER" http://peer.berkeley.edu/ :: "Peer - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary" http://www.merriam-w
[13:37] <Kilos> Maaz, define peer
[13:37] <Maaz> Kilos: Peer \Peer\ v. t. To make equal in rank. [R.] --Heylin. [1913 Webster], Peer \Peer\ v. t. To be, or to assume to be, equal. [R.] [1913 Webster], Peer \Peer\, n. [OE. per, OF. per, F. pair, fr. L. par equal. Cf. {Apparel}, {Pair}, {Par}, n., {Umpire}.] 1. One of the same rank, quality, endowments, character, etc.; an equal; a match; a mate. [1913 Webster]  In song he never had his peer.        --Dryden. [1913 Webster]  Shall they cons
[13:40] <charl> Maaz: google connection reset by peer
[13:40] <Maaz> charl: "I'm receiving the error "Connection reset by peer (10054)"." http://kb.realvnc.com/questions/75/ :: "Connection reset by peer. - Microsoft TechNet" http://technet.microsoft.com/library/cc957018 :: "sockets - connection reset by peer - Stack Overflow" http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1434451/connection-reset-by-peer :: "ssh: Connection reset by peer" http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/ssh-connection-reset-by-p
[13:40] <charl> ah, microsoft invented peer... that explains it
[13:41] <charl> what error do you get when a drunk man falls over a cable in the server room?
[13:41] <charl> connection reset by beer
[13:41] <Kilos> lol
[13:41] <Kilos> i go fetch sheep
[14:06] <Symmetria> hrm
[14:06] <Symmetria> so all
[14:06] <Symmetria> lo I mean
[14:07]  * Symmetria sighs, 55 days till I write probably the roughest exam I could possibly take and haha I am?. very worried 
[14:07] <Tonberry> o?
[14:08] <Symmetria> heh the JNCIE exam
[14:09] <Symmetria> the pass rate on that thing is < 20% 
[14:09] <Symmetria> (it rises to around 30% when you look at people who did it 3 times)
[14:09] <Tonberry> damn
[14:14] <Kilos> good luck Symmetria 
[14:15] <Kilos> dont make excuses, just pass it
[14:20] <Symmetria> heh kilos oh I plan to pass it, Im just nervous as hell
[14:20] <Symmetria> especially considering what it costs to  write the damn thing
[14:20] <magespawn> howdy
[14:21] <Kilos> yo magespawn wb
[14:21] <magespawn> what you writing Symmetria 
[14:21] <magespawn> ?
[14:21] <magespawn> ty Kilos
[14:21] <Kilos> JNCIE exam
[14:21] <Kilos> whatever that might be
[14:21] <Symmetria> heh its the top level juniper certification
[14:22] <Symmetria> its basically the god of all network qualifications 
[14:22] <magespawn> so I see, what is the exam fee?
[14:23] <magespawn> Juniper Networks Certified Internet Expert.
[14:24] <magespawn> http://certification.about.com/library/glossary/bldef-jncie.htm
[14:24] <Symmetria> magespawn umm coupla thousand dollars
[14:25] <Symmetria> they have to fly an examiner out to .za to test you, or you have to fly to dubai, one or the other your choice
[14:25] <Symmetria> last time I checked with all the sublementary exams and the main exam and the costs and everything a JNCIE complete cert ends up costing around 100 grand or something
[14:25] <magespawn> sounds like fun. do not have an off day when you take the exam.
[14:26] <Symmetria> heh the exam is designed to give you an off day ahha
[14:26] <Symmetria> basically this exam works like this
[14:26] <Symmetria> first, there is a 4 hour theory exam 
[14:26] <Symmetria> that you write online
[14:26] <Symmetria> thats RELATIVELY ok 
[14:26] <Symmetria> then, you have a lab exam that I believe is done in 2 12 hour segments or something 
[14:27] <Symmetria> and basically, they take you into the mother of all labs, give you a bunch of impossible networks, say, right, build these, and when you done, they go in there, screw them entirely, and go right, fix them 
[14:27] <Symmetria> succeed and you pass, dont succeed and you fail 
[14:27] <Symmetria> and they will make very sure that the breakage is as obscure as possible 
[14:28] <Symmetria> right now to putting in dodgy hardware into the lab that is malfunctioning but not entirely broken
[14:28] <Kilos> hmm no more new cars for a while
[14:28] <Symmetria> heh, its the ultimate in torture :)
[14:29] <magespawn> how does this compare to the cisco certs?
[14:29] <Symmetria> magespawn heh, this makes the CCNA/CCNP/CCDP/CCIP exams look like a walk in the park, its probably about on par with the CCIE 
[14:29] <Symmetria> the CCIE exam has tons of people that pass the theory, but very very few that pass the lab 
[14:30] <Symmetria> lol, I know a lot of people that go "zomg I'm a CCIE", and Im like, oh? really? tell me about the lab? they go "Oh, no, ummm I only did the theory bit"
[14:31] <magespawn> lol
[14:31] <Symmetria> but the CCIE exam has one element in it that luckily the JNCIE doesnt really have, you *CANNOT* pass the CCIE lab unless you know how to script in TCL 
[14:31] <Symmetria> and script *WELL* and *FAST*
[14:31] <magespawn> like claiming you have cert when you have done an exam prep course
[14:31] <Symmetria> because its not possible to complete the exam in time without on router tcl scripting 
[14:32] <magespawn> can you take tools into the lab with you? or just what is in your head?
[14:32] <Symmetria> heh, you walk in with nothing, they supply what you are allowed
[14:32] <Symmetria> you cant even take a pen in there
[14:33] <magespawn> okay then, so no pre-written scripts then.
[14:34] <Symmetria> magespawn heh, not possible to pre-write them anyway, you write those scripts generally to perform diagnostics against the problems they throw at you and those could be any of about 50 thousand things
[14:34] <magespawn> i think I have awhile to go, i am only doing my a+,n+ and mcitp this year
[14:35] <Symmetria> heh, the n+ isnt 2 bad
[14:35] <Symmetria> never bothered with the a+ 
[14:35] <Symmetria> the CCNA/JNCA certs arent hard either
[14:36] <Symmetria> you could probably pass a JNCA exam with 2 or 3 weeks study and no experience
[14:36] <magespawn> bundled course.
[14:36] <magespawn> got them to throw in exchange and database's too
[14:41] <magespawn> start at the bottom to try and cover the bases properly
[14:41] <Symmetria> *nod*
[14:42] <Kilos> good foundation makes for strong building
[14:49] <Symmetria> hrm
[14:49] <Symmetria> if za.archive isnt working now
[14:49] <Symmetria> something is broken with gb.archive 
[14:49] <Symmetria> because its in perfect sync
[14:52] <charl> bbl
[15:04] <magespawn> right see you all later
[15:04] <magespawn> bye
[15:04] <Symmetria> later all, Im off to the airport to go fly to dubai
[15:05] <Kilos> toods magespawn 
[15:05] <Kilos> go well Symmetria 
[15:10] <Kilos> hmmm steven got hectic flu
[15:10] <Kilos> must be a new kind
[15:32] <Kilos> hi smile 
[15:35] <smile> hi Kilos :D
[15:35] <smile> http://hugsmile.eu/en/chat/ ;)
[15:35] <Kilos> ha ha
[15:35] <smile> :DD
[15:35] <smile> no images :D
[15:35] <smile> so have a look :)
[15:36] <Kilos> ok
[15:36] <smile> ^^
[15:37] <Kilos> hmm well done
[15:38] <Kilos> you windows peeps need something that works
[15:38] <Kilos> you need too add antivirus, firewall and anti malware
[15:41] <Kilos> looks quite easy to understand
[15:44] <Kilos> what language is it smile
[15:44] <smile> Kilos: it's JavaScript / XUL / XBL I think :)
[15:44] <smile> and NSIS-script & VBScript
[15:44] <smile> :p
[15:45] <Kilos> you learning jave now?
[15:45] <Kilos> java
[15:45] <smile> nope. I just used the source code from the chatzilla extension :)
[15:45] <Kilos> ah
[15:45] <smile> normally, you use it like this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/
[15:45] <smile> as an addon
[15:45] <Kilos> so thats a standalone
[15:45] <smile> but I made it standalone :)
[15:46] <smile> in only 6,2 megs :p
[15:46] <smile> you can't even install firefox for that
[15:46] <smile> :p
[15:46] <Kilos> well done
[15:47] <Kilos> howdoes it connect? with your browser
[15:47] <smile> no no :) it's using XULRunner instead of Firefox
[15:47] <smile> that's a dll file :p
[15:47] <smile> So I think it's using the standard built-in functions of XULRunner (HTTP/HTTPS and HTML/CSS support)
[15:47] <smile> :p
[15:48] <Kilos> ah
[15:48] <smile> if you understand what i'm saying? :)
[15:48] <Kilos> a bit
[15:48] <smile> well consult wikipedia for the details ^^
[15:48] <smile> :)
[15:48] <Kilos> not like wget uses tcp/ip if i member right
[15:49] <Kilos> no man details are for clever peeps
[15:51] <smile> tcp/ip is just a protocol stack which also contains HTTP :)
[15:51] <smile> HTTP is just a layer higher in the protocol stack. of course it's using tcp :)
[15:52] <Kilos> so thats youre own chat site
[15:53] <smile> No it connects to a freenode server :)
[15:53] <Kilos> ah
[15:53] <smile> like this channel :p
[15:54] <Kilos> so is a a irc chat client then?
[15:54] <smile> jep! :p
[15:55] <Kilos> an
[15:55] <Kilos> aha
[15:55] <Kilos> im getting there
[15:55] <smile> you can also use it for this channel if you want. just need to adjust one line :)
[15:55] <smile> ^^
[15:55] <Kilos> to make it work on ubuntu?
[15:56] <smile> no :| that needs more work I fear :p
[15:56] <smile> => start from scratch, almost :p
[15:56] <Kilos> lol
[15:57] <smile> I could make it for Ubuntu but it will take me about two weeks :p
[15:57] <Kilos> you have the rest of your life
[15:57] <smile> jep! :p
[15:57] <smile> brb :)
[16:06] <smile> back :p
[16:06] <smile> ^^
[16:06] <smile> wow, lots happend here :p
[16:06] <Kilos> hehe
[16:08] <smile> :)
[16:08] <smile> pff, why NSIS doesn't work on Linux? :(
[16:58] <magespawn> Evening
[16:59] <Kilos> yo magespawn 
[16:59] <magespawn> yo yo yo,
[17:03] <smile> Verbindung wegens Inaktivität gescholossen -> Is this Dutch? xD o.O
[17:06] <smile> :)
[17:07] <smile> lot of people who are quiet today
[17:07] <smile> :p
[17:07] <smile> * lots
[17:07] <magespawn> Sounds more german.
[17:07] <smile> it is german
[17:07] <smile> but it's onlogical. It's on a Dutch site. :p
[17:09] <magespawn> Ahh, well there is no accounting for people.
[17:09] <smile> yeah. They should translate it :p
[17:29] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[17:29] <Kilos> AndChat|68096, too
[17:29] <AndChat|68096> Lol
[17:30] <Kilos> what a schlep
[17:53] <Kilos> oh my he gone again
[17:53] <Kilos> our internet is getting worse daily
[18:01] <Kilos> hehe
[18:01] <Kilos> hi fluffy_p 
[18:01] <fluffy_p> hello
[18:01] <fluffy_p> so whats everybody talking about
[18:01] <Kilos> linux and ubuntu
[18:02] <Kilos> and network probs
[18:02] <Kilos> and data recovery
[18:03] <fluffy_p> ok, so whats your take on the subject?
[18:03] <Kilos> i listen and learn so i got something to forget
[18:03] <magespawn> What up?
[18:04] <Kilos> yo magespawn meet fluffy_p 
[18:04] <fluffy_p> lol! i think we both log on for the same reason
[18:04] <fluffy_p> hey magespawn
[18:04] <Kilos> what reason fluffy_p 
[18:04] <fluffy_p> nice to meet you
[18:04] <magespawn> Hey fluffy_p 
[18:05] <fluffy_p> listen, learn so i got something to forget
[18:05] <Kilos> oh hehe
[18:05] <Kilos> are you a linux user fluffy_p ?
[18:05] <fluffy_p> so whats your take on Ubuntu magespawn?
[18:06] <fluffy_p> no
[18:06] <Kilos> ubuntu rocks
[18:06] <Kilos> much better than windows
[18:06] <fluffy_p> i think there is no ubunto
[18:07] <fluffy_p> so it sucks the big on for me
[18:07] <Kilos> Maaz, google ubuntu
[18:07] <Maaz> Kilos: "Home | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/ :: "Desktop | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop :: "Download | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download :: "Ubuntu for you | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu :: "Ubuntu (operating system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system) :: "Ubuntu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu :: "Ubuntu (philosoph
[18:08] <magespawn> Boomarang much
[18:08] <fluffy_p> nope
[18:10] <Kilos> hehe
[18:12] <magespawn> Got to go for real now.
[18:12] <magespawn> Bbl
[18:12] <Kilos> cheers magespawn have a good night
[18:12] <Kilos> ok
[18:14] <Kilos> Banlam|away, you still away
[18:14] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:15] <Kilos> hope hes studying
[18:28] <smile> bye :)
[18:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:34] <Kilos> see you tomorrow
[19:49] <inetpro> good evening
[20:24] <inetpro> hmm... looks like everyone is sleeping here already
[20:27] <charl> good evening
[20:27] <inetpro> heh wb charl
[20:27] <charl> thanks inetpro 
[20:38] <inetpro> charl: how was the day?
[20:39] <charl> inetpro: pretty hectic but i survived it, now got a weekend to relax to :)
[20:39] <inetpro> nice
[20:39] <charl> still need to decide what to do this weekend, right now it's raining and tomorrow looks like thunder
[20:39] <charl> sunday i might be able to do some traveling, get out and do something cool
[20:39] <charl> still not decided where to go, maybe back to bentheim or something
[20:40] <charl> how was your week?
[20:40] <inetpro> eish, don't remind me, hectic
[20:40]  * inetpro will also be relaxing tomorrow, so far no plans
[20:41] <charl> yeah, i got four projects i'm working on so there isn't much time left in the day
[20:41] <charl> and new things come up as soon as i got some stuff done :)
[20:41] <inetpro> but with the kids around we'll probably have a lot to do
[20:42] <charl> lol yeah
[20:42] <charl> i'm still single so i need to find other things to entertain myself with :P
[20:42] <charl> like going to restaurants and chatting up the cute waitresses :)
[20:42] <inetpro> enjoy the freedom
[20:43] <inetpro> charl: how old you now if I may ask?
[20:43] <charl> 25
[20:43] <inetpro> ahh, still got a way to go :)
[20:43] <charl> :)
[20:44] <charl> at work the second youngest person is 7 years older than me (i think)
[20:44] <charl> in our department anyway
[20:45]  * inetpro will only be 45 next year
[20:47] <charl> i was at a work party yesterday, they had this big canister of liquid nitrogen
[20:48] <charl> we got to select fruit, then they put it on a stick, dip it in some yoghurt, then dip it in the liquid nitrogen
[20:48] <charl> instantly creates an ice cream type thing
[20:48] <inetpro> wow
[20:48] <charl> then for a second round, get some chocolate sauce on that
[20:48] <charl> then back into the nitrogen
[20:48] <charl> was a bit "gimmick"-ey, but cool nenvertheless!
[20:51] <charl> lemme get a pic
[20:51] <inetpro> zeref: wb
[20:52] <zeref> herro
[20:53] <charl> hi zeref 
[20:56] <charl> inetpro: here was the man making them http://i.imgur.com/aGivi.jpg
[20:56] <charl> here was mine: http://i.imgur.com/HhqXh.jpg
[20:56] <charl> excuse the photo, it was taken with my one hand, the other hand was used to hold the stick :)
[20:56] <charl> so those are my legs at the bottom
[20:57] <charl> the canister with the nitrogen isn't properly visible but you can see part of the top on the other side of the table
[20:57] <charl> the smoke coming from the bowl is the nitrogen evaporating
[20:57] <charl> the smoke still came from the ice after it came out of the bowl
[20:57] <charl> as i was holding it lol
[20:59] <inetpro> looks quite lekker
[20:59] <charl> but now.. time for a beer :)
[20:59] <charl> yup it was, not bad at all
[20:59] <charl> the fruit was frozen almost to the stick
[20:59] <charl> i had a piece of strawberry and banana in mine
[21:00] <inetpro> heh, enjoy the beer and the weekend
[21:00] <charl> funny to think the fruit was perfectly fresh and raw just a few minutes before
[21:00] <charl> thanks!
[21:00] <charl> duvel... yum yum
[21:02]  * inetpro has never heard of or seen a Duvel
[21:02] <charl> lemme make a pic
[21:02] <inetpro> until now
[21:03]  * inetpro found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duvel_Moortgat_Brewery
[21:03] <charl> yup that's the one
[21:03] <inetpro> at least I don't remember seeing it, and definitely have not tasted it
[21:04] <inetpro> looks nice
[21:04] <charl> http://i.imgur.com/7g0uV.jpg
[21:04] <charl> http://i.imgur.com/f6T3m.jpg
[21:04] <charl> please excuse the coke glass, i know that is just bad to drink beer from a coke glass
[21:04] <charl> but we are busy moving house and the beer glasses are in the new house :(
[21:05] <inetpro> haha
[21:06] <charl> we actually have some real duvel glasses
[21:06] <charl> they make their own beer glasses too
[21:06] <charl> i took a picture of that at some point but i don't know where to find it now
[21:06] <inetpro> definitely doesn't look good in a coke glass :-)
[21:06] <charl> nope
[21:07] <inetpro> but I'm sure the taste won't be any different
[21:07] <charl> wait lemme see if i still have that photo of that krombacher i was drinking the other day
[21:07] <charl> lemme just ask my mom...
[21:07] <inetpro> your mom also with you in Europe?
[21:08] <charl> nope she was here just a few weeks ago but at the moment she is in south africa with my grandmother
[21:08] <charl> my grandmother's condition isn't too good at the moment
[21:08] <inetpro> ahh
[21:09] <inetpro> so how're you chatting with her?
[21:09] <charl> on the one side we want to bring her to europe but we're not sure how to get her on an airplane
[21:09] <charl> the care she is getting at the moment is not good at all
[21:09] <charl> i just have my mom on skype here
[21:09] <inetpro> ok
[21:10] <inetpro> charl: she in hospital?
[21:11] <charl> nah in a frailcare institution
[21:11] <charl> ah here's the beer: http://i.imgur.com/XpHoF.jpg
[21:11] <charl> now we're talking!
[21:11] <inetpro> now that looks much better
[21:12] <charl> the rest of the photos: http://imgur.com/a/nc1pg
[21:12] <inetpro> yikes, time running away
[21:13]  * inetpro gonna hit the pillow
[21:14] <charl> nn inetpro !
[21:18] <charl> i'm also off, nn all!