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historinzler: what disablign the virtualized network adapter?00:00
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rinzlerhisto: yep00:00
historinzler: Settnigs > Network > uncheck the box enable network00:00
rinzlerhisto: ok thanks :)00:01
Prospecthow to install quanta plus?00:03
ultrixxthats from 2007, right?00:05
DiopterI'm having trouble building the "build_monolithic" target in from the debian-installer source (for Precise) on an amd64 install. It seems to be failing to resolve dependencies by trying to include both amd64 and i386 packages00:05
DiopterCouldn't find much about the issue on google; any insight from someone familiar with the D-I?00:06
DiopterInterestingly, build_cdrom_isolinux seems to work fine00:06
Prospecthow to install quanta plus?00:08
tensorpuddingopen software center, look for it00:09
basil1xOn a Toshiba Laptop, running 12.04LTS, using Brasero; at 53%, it suddenly drops from 5x write to ~1x.  Is there any way to fix this, pls?00:09
Prospecttensorpudding, no it doesn't have it00:09
Diopterbasil1x: Check dmesg (from a terminal: dmesg | tail -n 50), see if you see anything interesting concerning the optical drive00:09
asmonautthe name of my puter is www-data when it sends mail. how do i change that name? i remember it being in a file, but cant remember which :D00:10
tensorpuddingProspect, it got removed a long time ago, apparently00:10
basil1xchecking... moment pls.00:10
tensorpuddingProspect, not sure why00:10
jordan_For some reason I can't get midi to work through wine. Is there something special that I need to do?00:11
tensorpuddingProspect, is it still in development00:11
tensorpuddingsoftware usually gets dropped when it hasn't been updated for a couple years00:11
tensorpuddingit looks like it was abandoned in 200700:11
tensorpuddingand only works with kde 300:12
tensorpuddingthat's probably why it was removed00:12
Prospecttensorpudding, could you explain me this http://www.ehow.com/how_8362889_install-quanta-plus-ubuntu.html ?00:13
ProspectI can't understand where is that "terminal"?00:14
tensorpuddingProspect, it was removed in 11.0400:14
tensorpuddingProspect, if you have an up-to-date version of ubuntu that won't work00:14
nannesassss... People using linux who doesn't know what a terminal is00:15
nannesWhere are we going to? :S00:15
Prospecttensorpudding, ok, understood, thank you very much00:15
RedLancenannes, I have a Wyse terminal, is that good enough? :)00:15
nanneslol Red00:16
Prospectnannes, I installed Ubuntu just today00:17
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basil1xOK... that took forever... no messages about the DVD drive at all using: 'dmesg | tail -n 50'00:22
RedLanceDoes anybody if rsync will bog down my adsl connection like torrents do?00:22
bretthwhere is the ubuntu developers channel?00:23
DiopterRedLance: Depends, are you planning on rsync'ing data out or in, primarily?00:24
aguitelhttp://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x00:24
RedLanceDiopter, Out, primarily00:24
histobretth: #ubuntu-dev I believe00:24
bretthhisto, nobody is there00:25
neu-rahwhere?00:25
aguitel#ubuntu+100:25
DiopterRedLance: Then no00:25
RedLanceDiopter, Hmmm, ok, thanks00:25
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KPGWhen attempting to install Ubuntu 12.0400:25
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bretth#ubuntu-devel00:26
nosa-ji need to add a file to a install cd but i don't really see a directory for it and not sure ware i should put it any ideas?00:26
DemonWitchhey how can i change at grub the video driver ( i want to choose vesa by changing the kernel line)00:26
codypsHi, I'm looking for a package with a static libebl. From what I can tell, it is part of elfutils. No static package to be found, though. Only dynamic00:26
KPGWhen attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS alongside Windows 7 using Wubi, the installation completes, but then on startup, the system halts on initramfs. Is there a simple solution to this issue?00:27
basil1xDiopter - dmesg | tail -n 50 gives no message about my DVD drive.  Is there anything else to do re: Brasero dropping to ~1x burn rate?00:27
Prospectnannes, now I know what the terminal is , learned from Ubuntu's help :)00:27
nannesProspect: very good. did you read all my msgs or I my connection was already down?00:27
Diopterbasil1x: Well, my next step would be to install "wodim", then run "wodim -v /path/to/image/file", and watch the output from the -v (verbose) flag while it's burning00:27
histo!dev | bret00:28
ubottubret: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment00:28
Diopterbasil1x: See if the buffers have some kind of issue halfway through the process, or it complains loudly00:28
Ziberkill -9: It kills it with -9 fucks given.00:28
Prospecti've read all of them, maybe00:28
histo!language | Ziber00:28
ubottuZiber: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.00:28
Jordan_UDemonWitch: Adding the kernel parameters "nomodeset" and "xforcevesa" will probably get you that. Why do you want to use VESA though?00:28
basil1xOK... will an ISO work, or do I use an AVI? Diopter00:28
ZiberBut...00:28
ZiberOkay.00:28
DemonWitchJordan_ got wrong driver00:29
DemonWitchJordan_can i use the vga=xxx parameter?00:29
Diopterbasil1x: An ISO00:29
basil1xgotcha00:30
area51piloti need to add add a program to startup on boot ( TeamViewer7) ... any suggestions00:31
area51pilotI have the autostart file open but am not sure how to add this item00:31
hitterlooking now area51pilot 2 secs00:31
hitter!patience00:31
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/00:31
hitterarea51pilot, click on the app icon and type startup00:32
hitterarea51pilot, then you should be able to get it from there :D00:32
area51pilotapp icon00:33
smallnationHaha! 1557 users... looked like 1337 for a second.00:39
nosa-ji need to get these files http://pastebin.com/kEkyc9Rm inside a archlinux cd (sorry i can't find my freenode password so i can ask in #archlinux atm its on my server) so that it can see the drivers. i tryed to open the iso but i couldn't find a pplace ware drivers should go, and im not sure how to get the drivers to work though a usb drive can you guys help me out?00:39
nosa-ji really apologize for not asking there00:40
nosa-ji found a folder with alot of files though under boot/syslinux would they go there by chance?00:41
basil1xDiopter - OK... wodim had no problem with the burn at all.  Is this a Brasero problem?  I've seen it on the web, but from much older Ubuntu distros.00:41
Need2Growheaalppp popeye <no homo>00:41
ejvnosa-j: if you're trying to install some wireless firmware, i'd refer to the archlinux community documentation. /join #archlinux00:48
nosa-ji see00:48
ejvnosa-j: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless00:49
ejvgood hunting :)00:49
nosa-ji was just on that page00:49
nosa-jnow its open'd twice :D00:49
baz_Hi folks - stuck in bush with almost no web access - can someone tell me how to reset my MYSQL root pass?00:50
DiopterIs there an easier way to add a custom .udeb to an initrd.gz than rebuilding the debian-installer?00:50
ejvbaz_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset00:50
baz_thanks ejv00:51
ejvyw00:51
hilohello00:53
hiloGParted shows an extremely different amount of free space on my filesystem than the 'df -h' command. Can anyone offer an explanation or fix?00:54
* basil1x has decided to use wodim to burn instead of Brasero... a GUI was nice, but not necessary... Now, on to the 2nd problem... DeVeDe will NOT burn subtitles.00:55
chaslinuxhilo try df -hH is it still drastically different?00:55
PatrickC_ok, fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 x64, installed gnome-shell for a wm, tried to have it replace unity using gnome-shell --replace00:55
PatrickC_borked the wm, so i rebooted like i normally do when that happens00:55
PatrickC_and now i cannot log into the ubuntu install at all00:56
PatrickC_anyone heard of this?00:56
escotthilo, what filesystem00:56
chaslinuxhilo try df -hH is it still drastically different?00:56
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area51pilothaving trouble trying to edit files to have system autologin ... anyone?00:57
chaslinuxPatrickC_ you know you can replace it from lightdm correct?00:57
hiloYes, the 'df' command gives the right amount of free space that I'd expect. GParted shows about 40% more usage00:57
DiopterPatrickC_: Have you tried choosing a different session with the little icon to the top right of the password field?00:57
hiloescott: EXT400:57
PatrickC_Diopter: yes i have00:57
PatrickC_i've done it with all avail options00:57
PatrickC_chaslinux: lightdm?00:58
hilochaslinux: Yes, the 'df' command gives the right amount of free space that I'd expect. GParted shows about 40% more usage00:58
totesmuhgoatshi friends00:59
chaslinuxPatrickC_ before you log in to gnome you can select the session type: Unity or Gnome 3.00:59
chaslinuxlightdm is the login manager now (used to be GDM)00:59
PatrickC_chaslinux: i tried Unity, Unity 2D, Gnome, Gnome Classic, and Gnome Classic (No Effects)00:59
CodenamePossibly the largest channel on freenode....01:00
Diopterhilo: There's two ways df can display usage in human-friendly (read: large) units; using standard SI prefixes and the new binary prefixes01:00
Diopterhilo: If you compare df -h with df -H you'll see a likely large difference01:00
derrick_I need help, I logged into my session and there is no panel!01:00
hiloGParted shows 90% utilized while the 'df' command shows 53% usage. The df command is correct.01:00
justin__derrick_, wtf01:01
derrick_haha01:01
hiloDiopter: the difference from -h and -H is negligible.01:01
justin__derrick_, can u make it to a terminal01:01
justin__?01:01
Diopterhilo: Alright then.01:01
derrick_the only way i got to xchat was by right clicking the desktop01:01
derrick_yes i can01:01
justin__so go there, n type in sudo apt-get install gnome-panel01:02
hiloDiopter: GParted shows the partition as 90% full versus 53% in df01:02
justin__then restart01:02
derrick_i'm in xubuntu01:02
justin__do u run unit or gnome classic?01:02
PatrickC_is there a way to get cmd line access without being able to log into ubuntu?01:02
Diopterhilo: What about sudo du -sh /01:02
PatrickC_like, access to the /home folder and stuff01:02
PatrickC_without a live dvd/usb01:02
escottPatrickC_, ctrl-alt-f101:02
chaslinuxhilo does GParted show the drive as the correct size?01:03
DiopterPatrickC_: Ctrl+Alt+F1, login to your user. The X session lives on tty7, which you can get to with Alt+F701:03
hilochaslinux: both show the correct total size.01:03
DiopterIs there an easier way to add a custom .udeb to an initrd.gz than rebuilding the debian-installer?01:03
totesmuhgoatsi am having a strange issue with audio in ubuntu 12.04. as of the last few days i don't hear any audio out of my speakers even though everything seems to be configured correctly -> http://pastebin.com/8TNYKT1b <- The speakers are on, I have tested the cable / speakers / receiver, everything is connected properly.01:03
PatrickC_Diopter, escott, thanks!01:04
totesmuhgoatsi have no idea what caused the issue, if i were to guess i would assume probably a software update01:04
derrick_should i install gnome panel if i'm using xfce?01:04
justin__try reinstalling xfce first01:04
chaslinuxhilo what I mean is does it show the hard drive as 80GB  if it's 80GB?01:05
chaslinuxhilo I was thinking maybe gparted is being run as non-sudo/non-root and detecting part of the drive... just thinking.01:05
hiloDiopter: gives similar output to the df command, and shows the correct amount of free space01:05
totesmuhgoatsplease highlight me if you respond01:05
derrick_it says it's the latest version01:05
TheWonderingGuruHello everyone01:06
kilab33zhey01:06
derrick_i installed ubuntu netbook edition (easy peasy) and then I installed xfce.  when i tried logging into a xubuntu session the panel was gone.01:06
hilochaslinux: Yes, it is a 12 TB partition and is displayed as such in GParted.01:07
TheWonderingGuruDoes anyone know how to change the default file manager in xubuntu 12.04lts from thunar to dolphin?01:07
chaslinuxderrick sure it's not just hiding... did you try moving the mouse to near the bottom of the screen?01:07
derrick_chaslinux i tried that01:07
derrick_both the top and bottom panels are missing01:07
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ceti331anyonee know how to launch the KDE panel ? i've installed KWin & kdesktop under ubuntu.01:08
chaslinuxderrick_ one thing I've done before is a rm -rf on ~/.gconf and ~/.gconfd01:09
ceti331i went from fvwm -> raw kwin without kde.. i dont have a kde desktop gdm option01:09
chaslinuxBut that's for gnome01:09
chaslinuxthen log out and relogin to set up default files.01:09
derrick_i haven't a clue what you mean by rm -rf01:10
OY1Rdoes anyone know a linux/ubuntu alternative to VisualGPSXP ?01:11
hilochaslinux: Thanks for trying, I'll be back later or tomorrow to try and find out more.01:11
chaslinuxderrick_ rm -rf (rm is remove)01:11
chaslinuxhilo: sorry01:11
OY1RVisualGPSXP let's you see (with a nice GUI) the information(pos, sats, dop, speed, alt. signal etc.) received from a NMEA enabled gps device.01:12
PatrickC_got in01:12
PatrickC_thanks01:12
chaslinuxderrick_ the -rf is recursive (so it removes all files and directories below ~/.gconfd). You have to be careful doing rm -rf or you could remove important files.01:13
pawanhi01:14
pawanwired network not connecting01:14
derrick_i'm going to restart01:14
derrick_thanks01:14
Need2Growok fellowes01:15
vote4trouttrying to install an update but i'm getting a dialogue: "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources" and then the only option offered is to close, there is no 'proceed anyways' option01:18
pawanNo active connections01:18
vote4troutthe updates that won't install are : aptdaemon aptdaemon-data compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins compiz-plugins-default gir1.2-pango-1.0 libdecoration0 libpango1.0-0 python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon-gtk python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets python-aptdaemon.gtkwidgets python-aptdaemon.pkcompat01:19
mrdebis it safe to install google talk plugin01:20
derrick_I found a fix: in the terminal type "xfce4-panel" and before closing the terminal, logout making sure to save the session01:23
Need2Growi cant read01:24
itsakademikany benefits in installing google+ as opposed to using empathy?01:24
itsakademikgoogle chat*01:25
Chat9024hey01:25
[snake]Hello. Can sudo(sudo -s) be told to use another .bashrc type file? I know that you can use source .yourbashrchere, but I'm not sure how to make the sudo -s prompt automatically use another config file.01:25
Need2Growubuntu us a zulu tribe01:26
tr3ntonitsakademik: I don't think there is a google chat for linux? anyway, it doesn't matter, just use whatever software you prefer ;)01:27
IdleOneNeed2Grow: please stop with the nonsense01:27
kilab33zpidgin01:27
Need2Growidleone holyy eh tu brute01:28
pawancant connect to internet in ubuntu01:28
jparktonpawan: are you in terminal?01:28
pawani am on windows01:29
jparktonso cant really do much01:29
jparktonyou need to be in Ubuntu01:29
pawanif in ubuntu i cant get online01:29
pawanif u want some commands output01:30
pawani can go there and post it here01:30
jparktonpaste it to pastebin01:30
jparktonbut yes jump in Ubuntu01:30
pawanwhich all commands output01:31
escott[snake], why would you do that?01:31
jparktonpawan start with ifconfig01:32
[snake]escott, no, why wouldn't you?01:32
[snake]it does it in fedora escott01:32
nownotif i chroot a sftp user and i want to link to a file i have on my system how do i go about doing this? symbolic links don't see to do the trick01:32
escott[snake], because its a stupid crazy security risk for root to be sourcing any file which is not his own01:32
pawanthen01:32
jparkton[snake]: Fedora!=Ubuntu01:32
[snake]escott, that's not what I said. seriously you're like a theologian putting in words that aren't there.01:33
jparktonpawan: then paste the output of that one command in pastebin, then paste the link to that paste in the room01:33
pawanok i go there01:33
pawanu wait01:33
* jparkton flees01:33
jparkton:P01:33
escott[snake], then explain what you want to do. what other .bashrc are you talking about?01:33
jparktonugh01:34
jparktonpoor kid is going to be rebooting a million times tonight lol01:34
PatrickC_when trying to replace my wm, i get "Window manager error: Unable to open X display"01:34
hwkiller-netbookPatrickC_: how are you replacing it01:35
hwkiller-netbookliterally, like "foobarwm --replace" ?01:35
PatrickC_gnome-shell --replace01:35
PatrickC_that's how i've always done it :)01:35
hwkiller-netbooktry doing it w/ mutter01:35
hwkiller-netbookmutter --replace01:35
hwkiller-netbookand are you doing this from within X, or in a tty?01:36
PatrickC_installing mutter01:36
[snake]escott, I was going to make one, and color the User "root" red instead of green like I have it now. My prompt is like this for normal user: snake directory $ and like this for root: root directory # I have my user be green, and my root red. the problem is that sudo -s doesn't load root's bashrc file like su does.01:36
hwkiller-netbookyou shouldn't have to install mutter...01:36
hwkiller-netbookgnome-shell uses mutter01:36
PatrickC_i'm doing this from within whatever alt+control+f1 gives you lol01:36
escott[snake], you want sudo -i01:36
PatrickC_running mutter --replace says "window manager error: unable to open X display"01:36
hwkiller-netbookOh, so you'r ein the tty?01:37
hwkiller-netbookyou're in*01:37
PatrickC_i believe so01:37
PatrickC_i hit alt+cntrl+f101:38
[snake]escott, thanks.01:38
hwkiller-netbookyou need to specify the display. PatrickC_ : gnome-shell --display=:0 --replace01:38
PatrickC_that worked! thanks!01:39
hwkiller-netbooknp01:39
escott[snake], looking at http://blog.colovirt.com/2009/08/18/linux-security-sudo-sudo-su-vs-sudo-s/ i'm hard pressed to think why you would ever want sudo -s... don't know how that meme got started01:39
[snake]escott, OH... you shoul've been more clear about sudo -s vs sudo -i.... I thought you were talking about something else.01:40
[snake]escott, before, when I called you a theologian. (I was joking though don't take it wrong)01:41
escott[snake], i've never used sudo -s myself. so the behavior of it seems strange to me. clearly you want -i (i would think most people would want -i)01:41
TostadaUbuntu 12.04... Authentication failure with the su command. Strange my password works to login but not for su. Any ideas, thanks.. : )01:41
jparktonTostada: do you have sudo?01:41
TostadaYes.. same thing01:42
jparktonas in is that user allowed to sudo?01:42
[snake]Tostada, you use your root password for su01:42
TostadaThats what I'm trying to do.01:42
TostadaNot a good idea probably.01:42
[snake]escott, yeah, I would like to start using -i instead. It does what I want with the profiles as well as what you are saying; apparently it's more secure.01:43
escott!root | Tostada01:43
ubottuTostada: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo01:43
pawanhi01:43
escott[snake], lots of command switches. confusion happens. not a big deal01:43
Tostadaubottu .. Okay thanks I will.01:44
ubottuTostada: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:44
pawan!pastebin01:44
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:44
TostadaThe admin password should work for su though right.?01:45
escottTostada, "Realise the truth... there is no root password." ^^^01:46
pawanjparktan here the output of ifconfig01:46
pawanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1089083/01:46
Guest1097Tostada, why do you want to use su instead of sudo?01:46
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escottTostada, su means "try to run login" ie "ask for the users username and password"01:47
TostadaGuest1097 sudo doesn't work either.01:47
min|dvir|usTostada, what are you trying to do?01:48
min|dvir|usGet root access?01:48
Tostadarun motion01:48
TostadaYes get root so I can run motion01:49
min|dvir|usTostada, you don't need root to have access to the webcam.01:49
berz_1 /help filter01:49
min|dvir|usTostada, hang on, I'll try to install it myself.01:50
min|dvir|usTostada, looks like the program is shit.01:51
min|dvir|usTelling me my camera is in use.01:51
min|dvir|usIt is not.01:51
pawanhello01:51
ok_Tostada, you should only do things as root when you know there is good reason to, not just because something doesnt seem work01:51
IdleOnemin|dvir|us: Please keep the language clean in here01:51
Tostadamin|dvir|us It doesn't work that good, but it works.01:51
ok_Tostada, running programs as root can let them do serious damage to your system01:52
Tostadathat computer is just for learning linux so I'm not to concerned.01:53
IdleOneTostada: if you are learning you should learn the right way from the start :)01:53
Guest94029for some reason nothing is showing up in additional drivers after installing b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-installer. Part of the instructions call for activating the drivers with additional drivers but only some smartmodem thing shows up. Any ideas? I'm currently on my 5th fresh install because when you go to reboot, if the firmware isn't installed, the machine becomes unbootable (freezes during boot). The thing is, I install the thing b01:53
Guest94029ut it never asks me to download the firmware nor does it show up in additional drivers and I can't use my computer01:53
TostadaI have an unbuntu 11.04 system that the admin password works for su or sudo.01:53
ok_Tostada, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo01:54
escottTostada, because that person did something they shouldn't have, and which we will not explain how to do01:54
ok_Tostada, i would recommend that you completely ignore the info about activating the root user, you will almost certainly not need it01:55
ok_escott, sorry man, cat out the bag01:55
ok_Tostada, in fact, just, you will definitely not need it01:56
TostadaOkay I'll do some reading on the subject.. Thank you guys.01:56
min|dvir|usTostada, look, that's obviously a lie.01:56
min|dvir|usTostada, sudo -i = su.01:56
FloodBot1!netsplit01:56
IdleOnewowzer01:56
escottok_, you didnt do anything wrong. just in channel we don't tell people. can't control what they might find online01:56
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit01:57
min|dvir|usTostada, not sure if you got my last message.01:57
min|dvir|usTostada, sudo -i = su.01:57
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escottok_, but if they find it on the community docs page they at least have to read the admonishments not to do it :)01:57
ok_escott, i just couldnt be bothered launching into the no need for root user chat01:57
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anthony__how can I tell if I have xfce4-genmon-plugin installed?  I'm trying xfce and want to install http://goo.gl/TBU2J01:58
justinseiterAnyone have problems using Backup + S3?01:58
Tostada<min|dvir|us What does sudo -i = su.. do?01:58
min|dvir|usTostada, `sudo -i` = `su`.01:59
escottanthony__, run dpkg -l "xfce4-genmon-*" and it should list the packages matching that string. if its starts with ii it is installed01:59
TostadaOh.. it's the same thing.?01:59
min|dvir|usTostada, god, just try it.01:59
TostadaOk thanks.01:59
min|dvir|usDon't use su. There is no need to have a root password.02:00
Guest94029please if anyone can help02:00
min|dvir|usIf you have one, disable it.02:00
min|dvir|us`usermod --help`02:00
escottTostada, sudo -i will get you a root shell (that is properly configured for safe usage -- its better than su)02:00
Tostadamin|dvir|us The same password works with sudo -i02:01
anthony__escott, thanks.   it wasn't.  I forgot I was reading an arch walkthrough and forgot about apt-get et al.  thanks for your help02:01
min|dvir|usTostada, then your user password is the same as your root password, which is dumb.02:02
min|dvir|usTurn OFF your root password.02:02
pawannetwork wired connection not working02:02
TostadaOkay02:02
pawanno active devices02:02
min|dvir|usTostada, sudo usermod -L root02:02
Tostadak, thanks02:02
escottmin|dvir|us, i think Tostada was asking if his user password would work for sudo -i and the answer is "yes, because sudo always asks for the user password not the root password"02:02
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escott!help | Guest9402902:04
ubottuGuest94029: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:04
RamJettAnyone use vhost_net with libvirt / kvm? I can not get the network to communicate with it enabled02:05
pawanhi02:05
drag0niushow to check port forwarding from ubuntu server?02:06
escottdrag0nius, open a port and see if it is forwarded? im not sure what answer you are looking for here02:09
escottpawan, what does ifconfig say?02:09
Guest94029escott: sir, I did ask the question. It was the first thing I idd02:10
escottGuest94029, then repeat the question, or stay silent. uninformative "helps" are just noice. also please change your nick. Guest### is rather annoying02:11
Guest94029if there is anyone who can help me with my wireless problem I would sure appreciate that. I've been following the online instructions available (several times); but, in my case, I'm not getting the appropriate response from the system.02:12
Guest94029for some reason nothing is showing up in additional drivers after installing b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-installer. Part of the instructions call for activating the drivers with additional drivers but only some smartmodem thing shows up. Any ideas? I'm currently on my 5th fresh install because when you go to reboot, if the firmware isn't installed, the machine becomes unbootable (freezes during boot). The thing is, I install the thing b02:13
Guest94029ut it never asks me to download the firmware nor does it show up in additional drivers and I can't use my computer02:13
jparktonGuest94029: what are you trying to install?02:13
Murd0ckubuntu version of alchol 120% = what?02:14
jparktondrivers yeah but drivers for what?02:14
jparktonMurd0ck: whiskey?02:14
Murd0ckis that a real program?02:14
escottMurd0ck, is that a cdburner?02:14
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IdleOne!burner | Murd0ck02:16
ubottuMurd0ck: CD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto02:16
Guest94029I have the broadcom wireless card (the 4318). I've installed the b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-installer but am not asked to download the proprietary drivers. I purge them and do it again but to no avail. Network manager breaks the system when you reboot and it doesn't find the drivers.02:16
Murd0ckno,. it's not a burner02:16
Murd0ckit just creates a virtual CD-rom drive02:16
escottMurd0ck, this isn't 20 questions02:16
Murd0ckyou know what a virtual drive is escott?02:16
escottMurd0ck, sudo mount -o loop image.iso /media/mountpoint02:17
kriskrop1ugh stupid irc flooding crap02:17
jparktonGuest94029: go to terminal and type lsmod paste it to pastebin02:17
Murd0ckescott just shut it02:17
Murd0cklooking for a GUI program02:17
escott!attitude | Murd0ck02:17
ubottuMurd0ck: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines02:17
GI_Jackaparantly there is bug where QT4 doesn't work with the latest nvidia drivers02:17
GI_Jackand it all just crashes02:17
Guest94029ok02:18
drag0niushow do i stop application running from /etc/rc.local?02:18
Murd0ck!I don't want you to respond to my questions | escott02:18
ubottuMurd0ck: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:18
Murd0ckno worries I don't02:18
Guest94029it is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1089116/02:18
* kriskrop1 lulzd02:19
jparktonlol02:19
jparktonnubs are cute02:19
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escottMurd0ck, don't worry im not going to02:19
jparktondrag0nius: what is it you want to stop running?02:19
IdleOneAlright, everybody take a deep breath abd relax.02:19
jparktonmmmmmm02:19
IdleOneand*02:19
jparktonsmog02:19
drag0niusts3server02:20
IdleOnejparkton: Please keep the off topic commentary for #ubuntu-offtopic.02:20
Murd0ckwhy is it the stupid people always make you think the hardest about how their brains work?02:20
IdleOneMurd0ck: If you want help. I suggest you stop name calling now. Drop the last 3 minutes and start over fresh please.02:21
jparktonwellll02:21
jparktonguess im off for the night02:21
jparktonofftopic nazis have entered02:21
kriskropd_Murd0ck, its a paradox, its  perspective based :)02:21
kriskropd_but yeah, !ot I get it02:22
Murd0ckGmount ISO,.. Thanks for the BS convo instead of answering a simple question... People wonder why Linux will never be as successful as mainstream,.. you wanna know why? here is a prim example. You cannot even answer a simple question02:24
Murd0cknot without a ton of unnessasary attitude and pointless gibberish02:25
Murd0ckpeople with money not want to hear all of that, they want quick answers02:25
bazhangMurd0ck, thats enough02:25
IdleOnepeople with money PAY for support02:25
IdleOneanyway...02:26
mdelso i have a weird issue with an older nvidia card... can't quite solve it02:27
IdleOneMurd0ck2: you were removed, not banned.02:27
Guest94029jparkton: I was asked to paste something. Did you happen to see it?  "it is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1089116/"02:27
Need2Growbahzang chill out02:27
Need2Grow:O~02:27
bazhangNeed2Grow, stay on topic02:28
Murd0ck2irc client auto reconnects,.. minimizing window now,.. later02:28
mdeli popped a 6600LE in a dell i recently acquired, and after installing the bleeding-edge restricted drivers I'm still seeing terrible performance02:28
IdleOneMurd0ck2:  irc clients rejoin on kick, not on remove.02:28
mdelthe card is old, but there is defeinitely something else going on02:28
IdleOnefreenode has a nifty remove feature.02:29
mdelaccording to the log, its using the correct driver02:30
Murd0ck2does on mine,.. good night02:30
mdeland this driver supports my card02:30
mdelalso don't see anything telling in the logs02:31
bz!paste02:31
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:31
Guest94029it's really sad. A lot of people do need concrete help and to see all the infighting. My irc client tells me how many are logged on to the channel but it doesn't say how many of those are the ones helping others. It's entirely possible there are only a handful of people helping the over 1500 people on here. We're all dealing with it. Why waste time?02:32
escottmdel, terrible performance in what exactly02:32
mdelescott: that was vague on my part.... its not really terrible "performance" everything is just glitched out02:32
mdelbooted to unity 2d02:32
Guest94029If anyone get's a chance I need help with my wireless02:32
mdelno panels appear02:32
Guest94029and I do appreciate it - I do02:32
escottGuest94029, not everyone knows the answer to everything. im not at all familiar with broadcom (is that what that is)02:32
mdelno gtk windows open02:32
mdel1 sec on log02:32
escottmdel, do they appear later?02:33
Guest94029yeah. That card has been a problem for many many years. I've always been able to just do the workaround but it's not working this time.02:33
mdelescott: its weird... it did once, not appearing now02:34
escottmdel, have you tried unity --reset?02:34
mdelbefore I was able to click it even though it wasn't "there" and open the dash02:34
mdelcant open a term... i'll try to target that display over ssh02:34
escottmdel, you can run that on the cli (ctrl-alt-f1)02:34
mdelcant02:34
escottmdel, ctrl-alt-f7 to get back02:35
mdelthe monitor isn't outputting the console on any other level02:35
mdelnot sure why02:35
mdeli assumed it was related02:35
mdelescott: it actually worked over ssh02:36
escottmdel, that would probably have something to do with the proprietary drivers02:36
mdeli've never had a problem running nvidia prop drivers with a newer integrated chio02:36
mdelchip*02:36
mdelso perhaps this is a problem with older cards like this02:36
escottmdel, or the new in kernel modesetting02:37
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mdelhttp://pastie.org/private/wuk5tasr2nnega0tg9acfq02:38
mdelthats my log from resetting unity02:38
mdelsome weirdness there as well.. perhaps the card is truely just old :(02:38
liveoutloud91hey all!02:38
GI_Jacksup02:39
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liveoutloud91Just installed Xubuntu for the first time02:39
escottmdel, im not really sure what it should say there. i suspect its an issue with your user config files. you could nuke .config and .gconf or just create a new user and see if the new user is affected02:40
escottliveoutloud91, congrats.. is there a problem we can help you with02:40
liveoutloud91um...no. I'm guessing this is a strictly support channel?02:41
escottliveoutloud91, yes. #ubuntu-offtopic for chat02:41
liveoutloud91Alrighty. Happy Linux-ing!02:42
mdelescott: what switches does ubuntu use for useradd, do you know?02:42
mdeluseradd -m -s/bin.bash -G<user> user ?02:43
mdelerr, pathfail on bash02:43
escottmdel, use adduser instead of useradd. some useful groups are plugdev cdrom etc, but it shouldn't really matter as you aren't going to use this user02:43
mdelgotcha just wanted to be sure I didn't miss some default02:44
mdeljust played around with killing unity panel and restarting... its working "better" now but its still totally unusable and glitched out02:46
mdelim only bringing this up because it is odd, and i've seen some really weird behavior monkeying around with X over the years02:46
mdelsidenote: I have 2 of these cards, only 1 installed...and I have the same behavior on both02:47
epimethhi all... I just built myself a media center and connected it to my hdtv but the resolution in the cli is wrong... googling only made me think it is impossible to have a 16:9 resolution in my ttys!  any help?02:47
mdelI'm going to boot livecd and see what happens on a clean system02:47
escottepimeth, what graphics card do you have? are you using proprietary drivers?02:48
epimethmsi r645002:48
Babygirli was just reading about this flash player protected mode,,,,does that applies to linux also,,,,,if yes,,can i disable it,,,,i disable it on my windows 7 desktop and i can play games better on facebook02:49
escottepimeth, is that a radeon? are you using fglrx?02:49
epimethyes its a radeon02:49
epimethescott: I don't know....02:49
epimethescott: this is a command line only system (for now)02:50
escottepimeth, recent kernels do their own modesetting, not sure how well that works with radeon. presumably you dont have fglrx installed. you might be able to pass the kernel a vga parameter02:51
chaslinuxepimeth dsub/vga, dvi or hdmi cable?02:51
epimethescott: I'm not even sure the correct drivers are installed... I literally *just* installed the system over a flash drive and the tasksel step failed, so it is literally only the base linux system02:51
epimethchaslinux: hdmi02:51
epimethescott: I figured I would pass it a vga param, yes, but all the googling I have done has made it pretty clear there IS no vga param for an HDTV02:52
chaslinuxepimeth I ask because my Samsung manual says my TV does a max of 1366x768 with "computer connection," but does 1080p if I connect 1080p blueray via hdmi02:52
Babygirldoes linux flash player have a protected mode for firefox like it does in windows ?02:52
epimethchaslinux: hey, I don't care WHAT the resolution is, as long as I can actually see the entire tty on the screen.  right now about 5 characters are cut off on the right and an entire line is cut off at the bottom (so I can't see what I'm typing when the screen is full)02:54
epimethsorry, 5 characters are cut off on the LEFT02:54
escottepimeth, you could always type "clear" (not the best solution i know)02:54
chaslinuxepimeth ah gottcha... I've run into that before with Panasonic TVs... didn't solve it sorry.02:55
epimethescott: thats what I've been doing, but that doesn't fix the left :-)02:55
epimethchaslinux: damnit! Its a panasonic :-(02:55
chaslinuxepimeth doesn't mean you won't solve it...02:55
chaslinuxepimeth I only had an hour to solve the problem and had to do it among many other requests at our shop.02:55
epimethis there any way to change the resolution on the fly?  IE not reboot to check every vga= attempt?02:56
escottepimeth, stty columns ##02:56
escottepimeth, theres a hack for everything02:56
epimethlol excellent02:56
chaslinuxepimeth if you solve it would be nice if you blog it...02:57
epimethlol, nope.... still cut off on the left02:57
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TheDruidsKeeperBabygirl: I use chromium, and i dont see any flash setting for protected mode. i assume FF would be the same02:57
escottepimeth, right at the left... sorry was thinking the right02:58
epimethchaslinux: yea, I'm just gonna install X and let xorg take care of it... hopefully I'll not have to use the terminal too much02:58
escottepimeth, add some tabs to you $PS102:58
epimethescott: yea, I said the right by accident at first02:58
epimethescott: won't help... I can see the command I'm typing in just fine as $PS1 is long enough as it is... I just won't be able to see, say, what the process id is when I $ps02:59
escottepimeth, i wonder if the TV is zooming to make it wide screen. some TVs do that... others just overscan in weird ways02:59
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epimethwell anyway, I'm sure xorg will take care of it once its installed, and hopefully I won't have to use my tty much.  NOW:   Who knows stuff about ubuntu-tv?03:00
epimethcuz #ubuntu-tv is pretty dead03:01
epimethor at least was last night so fuggit03:01
epimeth;-)03:01
epimeth!ubuntu-tv03:01
epimeth!ubuntutv03:01
ubottuUbuntu TV is a strategy to bring the Ubuntu platform to TVs. Discussion happens in #ubuntu-tv and on the ubuntu-tv launchpad mailing list. Find out more at http://ubuntu.com/tv03:01
BabygirlTheDruidsKeeper, take a look at this = http://forums.adobe.com/message/447691103:02
epimethdamnit ubotto, you're useless!!03:02
GI_Jackdoes anyone know a work around for binary nvidia drivers and qt403:02
Babygirli have no clue if i have flash player 13,,how to find out ?03:02
TheDruidsKeeperBabygirl: ah, that makes more sense. that won't be needed on linux though, as the release notes says it was for windows only03:03
alazare619aynone know of a decent qt based ftp/sftp/scp/fxp client ?03:03
epimethBabygirl: google "flash version" ... the first/second/third link (it changes) is always a link to the adobe page that will bring up a flash app that will show you what version you are running03:04
escottBabygirl, you probably don't i'm up to date and i only have 11.203:04
TheDruidsKeeperBabygirl: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/03:04
epimethBabygirl: what he said :-D03:04
epimethso no takers on ubuntu tv?03:05
Babygirlso we dont have to worrried about this protected mode yet,,is from the 11.3 UP03:05
TheDruidsKeeperepimeth: i'm looking at the site now on that, hadn't seen it before03:05
escottBabygirl, probably never going to have to worry about it. adobe is winding down flash development03:06
Babygirlhopefully ubuntu developers take the time to give us a option to disable this new Flash Player protected jmode feature03:06
Babygirlgreate03:07
TheDruidsKeeperBabygirl: we probably don't have to worry about protected mode ever.. linux doesn't share window's innate security problems03:07
TheDruidsKeeperand flash is a thing of the past, html5 is going to replace it03:07
epimethTheDruidsKeeper: yea I read about it a little while back and when I decided to build a media box a month ago I figured it might be fun to try... however its not really ready yet, I don't think... will probably install xbmc as a stopgap03:07
chaslinuxepimeth running ubuntu 10.04 netbook remix autoloading XBMC on a netbook connected to our 42" Samsung TV here (via dsub/vga) and it's been great - don't think I'd want a separate 'buntu TV.03:08
epimethTheDruidsKeeper: As a web developer, I can't back that up completely... html5 still has a LONG way to go, as I painfully learned this month trying to create a specialized video player03:08
TheDruidsKeeperepimeth: i set my htpc up with mythbuntu.. it's good, but not overly impressive03:08
epimethchaslinux: fiiiiine... I'll just install xbmc... would you sugest ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop for it?  I personally am much more comfy with kde (and haven't even tried ubiquity yet), but I'm not sure about the overhead?03:09
Anxi80I installed java 6 in a folder and added the bin path to the PATH variable in /etc/environment. Calls to java from terminal work but when I execute a bin file it fails to see a java VM.03:10
chaslinuxepimeth stick with what you like.03:10
TheDruidsKeeperepimeth: it does still have a long way to go, but all signs point to it being the future. adobe has announced that they will not be porting flash to any new platforms, and google is pushing html5. for the past decade google has been setting the standards, and i would expect that trend to continue03:10
chaslinuxLatest XBMC had a huge performance increase over older versions...03:10
TheDruidsKeeperpeople didn't think chrome would beat ie's market share any time soon either, but it made that benchmark this year03:11
chaslinuxXBMC 11 was *much* faster than 10.x on my netbook.03:11
epimethTheDruidsKeeper: I totally agree, but if the current rate of adoption continues we still have a long way to go... and until then flash is the only solution for many things03:11
TheDruidsKeeperepimeth: what kind of web dev do you do?03:12
epimethTheDruidsKeeper: that is actually not true.... read up on it a little more, you'll see that that claim is true in that chrome is the most widely used browser by counting individual page hits, not by counting individual users.  meaning chrome users surf more, but IE is still installed more03:13
TheDruidsKeeperepimeth: touche03:13
epimethTheDruidsKeeper: I'm frontend and backend, and can administer a server.  Mostly LAMP, but comfy with WAMP and have dabbled in .NET/IIS (tho lord knows I would never use it unless absolutely necessary... every day I use it I like it less)03:14
Pihrohello all i just got xfce4 on my ubuntu 11.10 and i can barely see because of horribly fuzzy text03:14
epimethso general consensus:  MythTV or XBMC?  Considering there are a million XBMC remotes for android I should probably use that, no?03:15
TheDruidsKeeperxbmc definitely has the advantage when it comes to UI, some awesome themes are available, and there are plenty of rc apps. i dont think xbmc can record live tv though, so mythtv makes a good back end to it03:17
epimethTheDruidsKeeper: well I have a blackmagic intensity card, their software should take care of my live tv recording needs, no?03:18
TheDruidsKeeperepimeth: thats just for capture, but the software is still needed for record & playback03:19
GI_Jackanyone have a work around for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/92728803:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 927288 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Xorg crash with qt4 apps using nvidia drivers" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:20
TheDruidsKeeperepimeth: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Watch_TV_in_XBMC it looks like xbmc doesn't even handle decoding live streams either03:20
epimethTheDruidsKeeper: well thats what I'm saying... the blackmagic software should handle the recording/playback and I can just watch from there, no?03:21
epimethTheDruidsKeeper: And I preordered a LeapMotion so once that gets here I'll put it on my coffee table and be AWESOME :-D03:22
designbybeckSkype ver4, Crashes on Ubuntu 12.0403:23
designbybeckAnyone else having the problem, I'm trying to help my sister out over the phone03:23
designbybeckI tried "skype --disable-api" as noted in one forum03:23
designbybeckstill crashed.... also ran ia32-mulitarch as stated in the form and that didn't work either03:24
JuniorHknHello, could someone help me?03:25
designbybeckSkipe just says Aborted (core dump) on Skype 403:26
JuniorHknwhen starting live cd, I get the following error03:27
JuniorHkn (initramfs) mount: mounting / dev/loop0 on / / filesystem.squashfs failed: Input / output error03:27
JuniorHknCan not mount / dev/loop0 (/ cdrom / casper / filesystem.squashfs) on / / filesystem.squashfs03:27
TheDruidsKeeperepimeth: it looks like you should be able to use xbmc with the blackmagic pvr.. i'm using a tv capture card in mine, so i guess my setup is pretty different03:27
TheDruidsKeeperepimeth:  that leapmotion will be pretty intense though :D03:27
mdelcould a bios update fix graphics issues?03:28
oliobest laptop for ubuntu ?03:32
gansterJuniorHkn, create  a bootable flashdisk then make it there some crashes with the cd03:32
epimethTheDruidsKeeper: yes it will :-D ... hope they aren't lying when they say they will release with linux support :-(03:34
TheDruidsKeeperepimeth: guess you'll find out soon enough ;)03:34
Nom-Hey guys, i'm trying to get my preseed file to install ubuntu-minimal and NOT ubuntu-standard, but the old ways don't seem to be working for me03:35
Nom-Anyone got a working preseed?03:35
epimetholio:  People might yell at me for this, but the only problem I've ever had with linux on dells is wireless broadcom cards, but that was like 6 or 7 years ago03:35
epimethTheDruidsKeeper: not soon enough... I'll give you 3:1 odds they don't ship before the new year!03:36
TheDruidsKeeper:-/03:36
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olioepimeth: ya ! i agree with you .03:37
epimetholio: so why ask? :-D03:38
olioepimeth:  don't worry , no one yell on you . you are free to put your feeling out03:38
bazhang!ot03:38
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:38
olioepimeth: i found ubuntu ,gave less power backup03:38
zorg24anyone here happen to have an aspire 3820t (or similar) because I'm having issues with power management (mainly I don't think its actually going to sleep)03:40
talUbuntu version?03:43
caf4926running: sudo apt-get update03:44
caf4926I get03:44
caf4926Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:44
arooni-mobileanyone have a namepros account?  i need to post a logo design contest but lack the 10 days to get it started03:45
caf4926I am currently getting a system notiice of a sytem problem03:45
bazhang!ot | arooni-mobile03:45
ubottuarooni-mobile: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:45
bazhangcaf4926, another process is running. let that finish first03:45
caf4926bazhang, umm03:46
caf4926but this problem is persistant even on re-boot03:46
epimethcaf4926: you have a program running that is locking the installer03:50
caf4926any way to identify?03:50
epimethcaf4926: oh, $ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo dpkg --configure -a03:51
zorg24how do you make it so you can run a program without typing out the full path, like adding it to your system path on windows03:51
epimethzorg24: add the folder it is in to your $PATH, or create a symlink to the program in one of the folders already in the $PATH03:52
zorg24epimeth, I'm still new to linux how do you do this?  and you can you explain what each part of the command is doing please03:53
epimethzorg24: but really, unless you are creating your own program any program you install should be in your $PATH03:54
epimethzorg24: http://nixtricks.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/ubuntu-unlock-varlibdpkglock-when-youre-locked-out/03:54
zorg24epimeth, its a fairly new functional programming language, julia, as of now it has to be compiled if you want to use it...03:56
zorg24epimeth that article doesn't seem relevant since it isn't a package03:57
winchathttp://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/22/3282014/zeta_theta.pdf03:57
winchatso difficult :)03:58
TheDruidsKeeperanyone here setup a hypervisor vm on their desktop with 3d gaming support?04:00
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zorg24so epimeth should the command be something like:   export PATH=/home/zorg24/julia:$PATH04:00
epimethzorg24: that last message was for caf4926 :-/04:01
zorg24epimeth, oh makes sense; but did the command I said above look right?04:02
epimethzorg24: thats exactly how to add to your path, but that will go away when you reboot.  add that line to your .bashrc04:02
caf4926epimeth, Yes I'm just waiting on something before I go ahead04:02
zorg24epimeth, ok thanks04:02
epimethzorg24: actually, backwards04:02
epimethzorg24: export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/what/you/want04:02
epimethcaf4926: so you *are* currently installing something!04:03
zorg24epimeth, oh ok04:03
caf4926epimeth, running this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a04:03
epimethcaf4926: just wait til its done and then you can go ahead and do whatever command you were doing04:03
caf4926advice from the forum04:03
epimethzorg24: it doesn't really matter, but its best practice to append to your path as opposed to prepend04:04
zorg24epimeth, ok I guess I'll follow the convention then04:04
zorg24epimeth, for adding it to .bashrc where should I put it?  at the end?04:05
nicolaskoukidishttp://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8342/londongif200x197.gif04:08
epimethzorg24: yep04:08
epimethzorg24: then logout and log back in04:08
zorg24epimeth ok thanks04:09
dominobuntuHey guys. I just tried to install Quake 4 on Ubuntu 12.04 and after launching it destroyed the resolution on my monitors. I rebooted and now when the computer boots it just goes straight to command line, no GUI. If i CTRL+ALT+F7 it shows progress but is hung after starting LightDM04:10
dominobuntuAny ideas?04:10
epimethdominobuntu: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:11
hwkiller-netbookcan you upload your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a pastebin site? (www.nopaste.org)04:11
dominobuntuOk, one sec epimeth04:12
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dominobuntuhwkiller-netbook, I'm rebooting after the dpkg-reconfig and if it still isn't up I'll see if i can. What is the best way to get to it from command line?04:13
dominobuntuStill not up :/04:14
hwkiller-netbookhmm... can someone check whether nopaste or pastebinit is in the apt repos?04:14
trism!pastebinit04:14
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com04:14
epimethdominobuntu: http://linuxers.org/article/pastebinit-command-line-pastebin-client04:14
epimethheh, trism beat me to it04:14
dominobuntuAwesome! Thanks guys04:14
hwkiller-netbookso just run "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com"04:15
dominobuntuOk , one sec - lemme finish installing the package04:15
dominobuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1089214/04:16
Hwkillerthis doesn't seem like the whole thing...04:17
Hwkillerso it locks up?04:17
Hwkilleras in, you can't enter another tty (ctrl alt f2-f6) ?04:17
dominobuntuDuring boot it fails to start GUI and drops me at the command line04:17
dominobuntuI can use all up to f7, where it shows the failed progress to start x server04:17
Hwkillerdo you have a /var/log/lightdm.log ? not sure if that exists04:17
trismdominobuntu: if lightdm is actually failing to start, the logs in /var/log/lightdm/ may be useful as well (there are separate xorg logs there as well)04:18
dominobuntuGot it in lighted. Want lighted.log, x-0-greeter.log x-0 or x-1.log?04:18
dominobuntuThis all happened after trying to start Q4 for the first time. When it took the monitor I guess it had an issue with my ATI driver and crashed, causing something to panic and refuse to start the X server04:18
Hwkilleris there a folder called /var/log/lightdm ?04:19
dominobuntuYes04:19
Hwkillerand those are the files?04:19
dominobuntuYep, lightdm.log x-0-greeter.log x-0.log x-1.log in /var/log/lightdm04:19
Hwkiller"cat /var/log/lightdm/*.log | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com"04:20
dominobuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/108921704:21
arooni-mobilehey folks;  running ubuntu 10.04 LTS;  i want to get php-fpm + nginx.  i already have nginx setup... but trying to figure out how to get php-fpm.  ideas?04:23
Hwkillerdominobuntu: see if this gets you into your desktop at least. "ck-launch-session dbus-launch xinit $(unity)"04:24
dominobuntuHwkiller, Nope. Sitting at the same place as before but now I've lost control of changing TTYs and have to reboot I assume04:25
Hwkillerso it's not a lightdm issue at all; that's a pain04:25
Hwkilleranyone here know what the ati/amd driver package name is? maybe he can dpkg-reconfigure that stuff04:25
dominobuntuI downloaded the proprietary one from the ATI web site… I still have the driver package in my folder if you think I should reinstall it?04:26
dominobuntuReinstalling ATI/AMD right now… didn't even think of it!04:27
histodominobuntu: is it possible that you isntalled a kernel update also?  That would hos eyour propriatary driver04:28
Hwkillerdominobuntu: I'm honestly not sure; it sounds like it's trying to start an X mode that can't be done04:28
Hwkillerso it's failing04:28
Hwkillerosm04:28
Hwkillererr..04:28
Hwkillerisn't there an "ubuntu" way of installing those drivers?04:29
dominobuntuI'm fairly certain I didn't install any kernel updates. The quake 4 attempt hosed my resolution down to like 640x480 so I rebooted to fix it and it's not letting me back into any X server04:29
Hwkilleri.e., not by using the .run?04:29
bretthpressing print-screen-request wont take a snap shot!?04:29
dominobuntuOver 2 installations on 2 computer I haven't had the ubuntu proprietary driver thing work yet04:29
Hwkillerdominobuntu: can you type "ls /etc/X11/* | pastebinit" ?04:30
dominobuntu!!04:30
dominobuntuReinstalling the drivers fixed it04:30
Hwkillerah good04:30
dominobuntuCan't believe I didn't try that before jumping in here04:30
Hwkillerthere was an xorg server update recently04:31
Hwkillerthat's probably why04:31
dominobuntuAh. That's why I keep the .run on hand :P04:31
Hwkillersigh.. ati drivers04:31
dominobuntuI wish they would work properly. The initial install with nomodeset was an even bigger pain04:31
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dominobuntuThanks a ton for the help everybody, hope I don't have to be in here on the receiving end for a while04:33
arooni-mobilehey folks;  running ubuntu 10.04 LTS;  i want to get php-fpm + nginx.  i already have nginx setup... but trying to figure out how to get php-fpm.  ideas?04:34
histoarooni-mobile: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=php-fpm04:37
arooni-mobilehisto, oh man; thanks for that useful help.04:37
histoarooni-mobile: it's also bundled with php 5.3.3+04:38
arooni-mobileim aware;  but php5 on 10.04 package is 5.3.204:38
arooni-mobileso not sure whether to compile from source, use a ppa, or try to ugprade php04:38
histoarooni-mobile: there's a patch on the php-fpm site also04:38
arooni-mobilethere are three options04:38
IanWizard-CloudIs there any way I can make a public folder on my U1?  Just for dropping files, then linking to the folder.04:38
histoarooni-mobile: or you can search apt-cache for a php-gpm package04:38
histoIanWizard-Cloud: u1?04:39
gansterADIOS AMIGO04:39
arooni-mobilehisto, exactly;  3 choices;   not sure whta to go with04:39
IanWizard-Cloudubuntu one04:39
IanWizard-Cloudhisto: ^04:39
histoarooni-mobile: I would search apt first. If it's not there I would installed the patch from their site or search the ubuntu forums. I'm sure someone has done it.04:40
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arooni-mobilesudo add-apt-repository ppa:brianmercer/php ====> Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~brianmercer/+archive/php ... any idea on what to do now?04:43
arooni-mobilefixed04:44
drennenCan my brother (running windows 7) use a printer connected to my computer (ubuntu)?04:57
bretthdrennen, try samba04:57
drennengoogling samba. Thanks bretth04:58
jagginessdoes he need samba or cups?05:02
hwkiller-netbookyes05:02
* jagginess thinks drennen, needs both samba and cups..05:02
hwkiller-netbooksamba for the connection, cups to handle the queue05:03
hwkiller-netbookcups is already installed most likely05:03
hwkiller-netbooksamba probably is too to be honest05:03
drennensamba isnt05:03
hwkiller-netbooki'm surprised05:03
drennenif cups means common unix printing server, then no, it wasnt05:04
drennenfound it in the software center05:04
hwkiller-netbookwhy do you have a printer hooked up without cups?05:04
drennenso it will be soon05:04
drenneni am still new to ubuntu05:04
drennendont know most the software05:04
hwkiller-netbookhave you been printing on that printer from ubuntu?05:05
drennenyes05:05
hwkiller-netbookI'm just surprised you haven't had issues withotu cups installed... that's totally weird05:05
drennenwell, when i run out of luck, i unconsciencely siphon luck from the cosmos, which keeps my weirdness facter at max constantly05:05
S0undwaveCan someone please explain to me the function of a DHCP server?05:15
hwkiller-netbookS0undwave: a dhcp server listens for dhcp client requests. it then tells the clients "hey, here's a free IP address and DNS Information for you to use, so that your user doesn't have to bother with manually configuring ip addresses and resolv.conf"05:20
hwkiller-netbookWithout dhcp, each computer must have its own static IP assigned to it by an admin. With dhcp, each computer can just say "hey, give me an IP", and the dhcp server will do so.05:20
S0undwavehwkiller-netbook: I gotcha. Reason I'm asking is because I found an old laptop of mine and decided to install Ubuntu Server on it, but the configuration for DHCP won't work correctly and I'm not sure how to configure it manually.05:21
hwkiller-netbookI don't know anything about how to configure named/dhcpd05:23
hwkiller-netbookI just know their purpose05:23
hwkiller-netbookI took the easy route and used amahi :)05:23
arooni-mobilehey folks;  i noticed that i need this line of config to get nginx running correctly:  "include /etc/nginx/fastcgi_params"; ... but my version of nginx doesnt seem to have it (i installed from source via passenger phusion; installed to /opt/nginx/ but i only  have /opt/nginx/fastcgi_temp and no fastcgi_params05:24
gansterThe national debt stock rose from $8.47 billion (Sh13.55 trillion) in July 2009 to $12.56 billion (Sh20.1 trillion) this May,05:24
mdelso my video card and the xorg in 12.04 don't play well together... opinions for what I should do?05:30
mdeldowngrade to 11.10, or switch to debian...05:30
hwkiller-netbookmdel: got an ati card I'm guessing?05:30
mdelno, older nvidia actually05:30
hwkiller-netbookhow old05:30
hwkiller-netbook(what's the model)05:30
mdelon-board ati card works, but performance is pretty bad05:31
mdelGeForce 6600LE05:31
mdelits listed as supported...05:31
hwkiller-netbookoh, that should work fine05:31
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mdelbut i just read all about the issues with it05:31
hwkiller-netbookthat's still covered by the latest drivers05:31
mdelit _should_ work, but it actually doesn't05:31
mdelill get src..05:31
mdelhttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=17948905:32
mdelim seeing the same behaviour as several in the thread05:33
mdelpanels not showing (dock is black and top bar is translucent)05:33
Nuclear-muffin27what is temp.x?05:33
tdog02installed 64-bit with 8Gb of RAM and it is only showing 405:33
hwkiller-netbookI don't get it, why are they using a legacy driver?05:33
hwkiller-netbookthe latest drivers support the 6600 LE05:34
hwkiller-netbooklegacy drivers are for the FX series05:34
mdelNuclear-muffin27: not sure I'm able to tell05:34
mdeli dont think my board supports temp05:34
Nuclear-muffin27mdel, Is it something important?05:34
mdeli have 2 of the same card, both showing the same05:34
mdelso its certainly software related05:35
Nuclear-muffin27mdel, ok thank you05:35
mdellive cd wont run, just shows borked gtk window and square cursor05:35
hwkiller-netbookmdel: which drivers did you install?05:35
hwkiller-netbookeven the nvidia 302 driver supports that model, and that's a brand new release05:35
mdelthe fallback drivers work if I deactivate the 295 nvidia driver, but its slower than the onboard ati at that point05:36
hwkiller-netbookmdel: what do you use your computer for?05:36
hwkiller-netbookif you don't do gaming or need high-end video acceleration, nouveau would work05:36
mdelagain, I doubt it would work any better than the onboard05:38
hwkiller-netbookNot sure05:38
mdelthis card is actually pretty decently specced, so I'm hoping to get it working 100%05:38
hwkiller-netbookHow did you install the nvidia drivers05:38
mdellike I said, I can go back to an earlier release for an older xorg05:38
mdelthat would probably work05:38
mdelbut not ideal obv05:38
tdog02clean install of 12.04 and system still only recognizing 4GB out of 8GB, any suggestions on getting it to recognize all 8?05:39
hwkiller-netbooktdog02: are you installing 32bit ubuntu and not using PAE?05:39
mdelhwkiller-netbook: both from jockey and nvidia-current05:39
hwkiller-netbooknvidia-current is a ppa I'm guessing?05:39
tdog02installed 6405:39
hwkiller-netbookerr no, nvm, that is actually a pacakge (sorry, not on ubuntu right now)05:40
mdelyeah its here05:40
mdeli'll try something on a live cd, maybe 11.1005:40
mdellive usb #its201205:40
oliovoice recognisation ? on ubuntu ?05:41
tdog02hwkiller-netbook: system should recognize all 8 w/ 64bit right?05:41
hwkiller-netbookyes, tdog0205:41
mdeli do think its the same situation as those on the thread I posted... you might have seen that an nvidia dev mentioned they were working on a fix, but that was 4 months ago05:41
hwkiller-netbookmdel: you *could* try installing the 30205:42
hwkiller-netbookjust for giggles since the install is broken anyway05:42
mdelinstall is fine if I just toss the ati drivers back on and disable the pci slot05:42
hwkiller-netbookhttp://www.unixmen.com/nvidia-302-17-has-been-released-install-in-ubuntu12-04-linuxmint13-fedora17/05:42
mdelthat being said, i'm fine wit doing it05:43
tdog02hwkiller-netbook:  next steps on troubleshooting?05:43
rgenito_when i run "sudo apt-get install" from a headless machine i am ssh'd into (at my office), i get the error: "E: Encountered a section with no Package: header"05:43
hwkiller-netbooktdog02: how are you viewing your ram?05:43
rgenito_....i'm starting to feel like i cannot connect to any internet @_@05:43
rgenito_(from that machine)05:43
tdog02hwkiller-netbook: system monitor05:44
hwkiller-netbooktdog02: do you have pastebinit installed?05:44
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arooni-mobiletrying to get php-fpm running on ubuntu 10.04.  apparently im supposed to add this ppa: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/php5 .. but i get this result: Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~nginx/+archive/php5 .. ideas?05:45
tdog02hwkiller-netbook:  no05:45
hwkiller-netbooktdog02: install pastebinit and run: cat $(uname -a) $(free -m)|pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com05:46
hwkiller-netbookerr no05:46
hwkiller-netbooktdog02: install pastebinit and run: echo $(uname -a) $(free -m)|pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com05:46
mdelhwkiller-netbook: can't get either version to activate now05:47
hwkiller-netbookmdel: ? what have you blacklisted, do you have an xorg.conf or an xorg.conf.d in /etc/X1105:48
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tdog02hwkiller-netbook: i'm still a bit of a noob.  pastebinit is now installed and i'm trying to run the commands you pasted.  please bear with me05:49
hwkiller-netbookit should give you a URL05:51
mdelhwkiller-netbook: fixed it, ppa was busted05:54
mdelstill running like its 199505:54
oliobest laptop having good  battery backup on running ubuntu on it05:55
hwkiller-netbookcan you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?05:55
hwkiller-netbookmdel: ^05:55
mdelyeah 1 min05:55
jaywinkhi all. Anyone know what might be wrong, I lost all icons on the Unity launcher and the Alt-Tab changer .. everything works, icons just invisible. tried "unity --reset-icons" to no avail05:56
tdog02hwkiller-netbook:  i can't get that command line to run05:56
hwkiller-netbooktdog02: install pastebinit and run: echo "$(uname -a) $(free -m)" | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com05:56
hwkiller-netbooktry that one then05:56
jaywinkI have x-org-edgers so could be something from there, but just thinking if someone else has had the same issue05:57
mdelhwkiller-netbook: 108929105:57
tdog02http://paste.ubuntu.com/1089294/05:58
hwkiller-netbookmdel: this says that nvidia isn't installed05:59
hwkiller-netbookyour kernel driver isn't there05:59
hwkiller-netbooktdog02: I honestly have no clue. I've never heard of that problem. do other OS's pick it up?06:00
rgenito_how can i check what DNS servers my ubuntu machine is using?06:00
tdog02hwkiller-netbook:  this was a windows machine prior to this and it recognized all 806:01
tdog02hwkiller-netbook:  they are 4GBx2.  I have two other slots open, maybe i'll try those two and see if it is a mb issue06:02
mdelhwkiller-netbook: they are installed, afaict06:02
mdelperhaps just not being loaded06:02
hwkiller-netbookEE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your06:03
hwkiller-netbook[    17.714] (EE) NVIDIA:     system's kernel log for additional error messages.06:03
mdelhwkiller-netbook: it says "compatible" x driver not found... perhaps the one installed is not06:03
hwkiller-netbook(EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)06:04
mdelhm06:04
hwkiller-netbookboth of those are part of the nvidia package, one is the kernel, one is the xorg. neither are there06:04
olioset string = "tictacktok";  echo "${string:2:1}"     output :   nothing : (   , whats wrong with this code06:04
mdelnot sure why it wouldn't be installed06:04
mdelolio: its being posted in the wrong channel :)06:04
olioops ! mdel06:05
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hwkiller-netbookolio: that you're using "set"06:07
mdelhwkiller-netbook: i dunno man, its installde06:07
mdelnvidia-current nvidia-settings06:07
mdelwhat else06:07
hwkiller-netbookmdel: dpkg -L nvidia-current|pastebinit06:08
mdelhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1089303/06:09
mdel302 :)06:09
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oliois their any free voice recognisation software on ubuntu like window hava06:11
Kartagisthere*06:11
fidelahoi06:12
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oliook ! any free voice recognisation software on ubuntu like window 706:12
dassieI have this iomega NAS, I wanna do a direct wired transfer but I only have an ethernet cable. All my usb cables have connectors for cellphones on the other ends. Is there anyway I can use an ethernet cable to do the transfer instead?06:13
Kartagisgood morning. I did something to cairo-dock (I don't know/remember what it is) and now I don't see a program's additional windows. what can I do?06:13
Kartagishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechRecognition/06:13
Kartagisolio: ^06:13
dassieAlso, I wasn't sure if it was on-topic or not, but I am using ubuntu...06:14
tdog02hwkiller-netbook:  ok...i'm an idiot lol06:14
hwkiller-netbookwhat tdog02 ?06:14
tdog02hwkiller-netbook:  RAM stick said 4GB on it and in smaller letters it said 2GBx206:14
tdog02only had 4gb to begin with06:14
hwkiller-netbookmdel: I don't see where it installed the kernel driver06:15
tdog02confused this pc with another in the house06:15
tdog02i appreciate your assistance though :)06:15
hwkiller-netbookI don't know how dkms works w/ it though, mdel06:16
hwkiller-netbookit might move it there itself06:16
hwkiller-netbookactually no06:16
hwkiller-netbookit's really not there; there is no *.ko06:16
mdelweird06:16
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mdeluninstalled 302, i'll roll back06:23
mdelnot sure what else I can do06:23
mdelmight need debian 606:23
mdelits not fun it seems to rip out and downgrade xorg06:23
doc|homehey, I've configured mpd as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPD but it's still not working. Anyone got any suggestions on how to fix it?06:24
doc|homeother sound is working fine06:25
doc|homeanyone?06:31
hwkiller-netbookdoc|home: did you configure system-wide or for your user?06:33
hwkiller-netbookare you running it as mpd:mpd, or as root06:33
hwkiller-netbookand is mpd:mpd part of the audio group?06:33
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: system wide06:33
mediamgl#ubuntu06:34
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: http://pastebin.ca/217034506:34
hwkiller-netbookwhat are you showing me06:35
hwkiller-netbookwhat command06:35
VladK2KHi guys. I want to install ubuntu on my 8GB USB key. All guides show me how to put the LiveCD image on the key, which leaves ~7 GB free. Can I actually install it to the USB key?06:35
hwkiller-netbookyes you can, VladK2K06:36
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: that's ps waux | grep mpd, showing users06:36
hwkiller-netbookyou'd need another usb drive to install it from though06:36
totesmuhgoatsany ideas why i am unable to hear any audio? http://pastebin.com/8TNYKT1b06:36
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: http://pastebin.ca/2170347 updated containing group access06:36
VladK2KI have previously installed Linux Mint on a USB key but after kernel upgrade it doesn't boot up anymore06:37
hwkiller-netbookdoc|home: add mpd to audio group, firstly06:39
hwkiller-netbooksecond, did you configure outputs in the mpd.conf?06:39
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: I did, pulseaudio06:39
hwkiller-netbookhmm06:40
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: added to audio group, no change :/06:41
hwkiller-netbookcan I see your mpd.conf?06:41
doc|homealso, wasn't in the docs mentioned06:41
doc|homeyep, one sec06:41
hwkiller-netbookand what client are you using, mpc, nmpcmpp?06:42
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: http://pastebin.com/t5mL03ZJ06:43
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: sonata06:43
doc|homeaccording to sonata and the logs it's playing06:43
hwkiller-netbook#group                          "nogroup"06:45
hwkiller-netbookthat should be group "audio"06:45
hwkiller-netbookor "pulse"06:45
hwkiller-netbookeither one would probably work06:45
hwkiller-netbookyou'll probably have to restart the mpd daemon of course06:47
doc|homeyep, thanks, changing now06:47
doc|homeno change on pulse, will try audio06:48
doc|homenope :/06:48
doc|homemight I need to restart pulse for some reason?06:48
hwkiller-netbookand you uncommented it right?06:48
doc|homeyep06:48
hwkiller-netbooknah, shouldn't have to06:48
hwkiller-netbookcan you reupload the conf?06:48
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: http://pastebin.com/qBqM9YR806:49
hwkiller-netbookhave you tried setting the output to alsa instead of pulse, just to see?06:51
doc|homenope, will try it06:51
doc|homeone sec06:51
doc|homeI really dislike configuring mpd with anything, it always takes forever :/06:51
hwkiller-netbookI haven't really had issues with it. :/ so this is odd06:52
william0hey, is there any one who used linux mint before?06:53
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: setting type, name and device as hw:0,0 will be enough?06:53
DJones!mint | william0 Probably better asking in the channel the bot links to for questions about mint,06:54
ubottuwilliam0 Probably better asking in the channel the bot links to for questions about mint,: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org06:54
hwkiller-netbookyou could probably leave off hw:0,006:54
hwkiller-netbookit'll go to the default card06:54
hwkiller-netbook(which is probably going to forward it to pulse anyway)06:55
doc|homeok06:55
doc|homeactually, the default card in alsa is my graphics card's hdmi output...06:55
hwkiller-netbookthat's... odd06:55
doc|homeI have a toshiba media hub usb sound card that I use for audio06:55
doc|homeany idea how to get the hw reference for that?06:56
doc|homeBus 002 Device 007: ID 041e:3048 Creative Technology, Ltd from lsusb06:56
hwkiller-netbookdoc|home: go to /proc/asound06:57
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hwkiller-netbookand look at cards and/or devices06:57
hwkiller-netbookor rather06:58
hwkiller-netbook"aplay -l"06:58
doc|homehttp://pastebin.com/XFrLfKBg06:58
hwkiller-netbook(lowercase L)06:58
doc|homecard 1: SB0500 [SB-0500], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]06:58
doc|home  Subdevices: 1/106:58
doc|home  Subdevice #0: subdevice #06:58
doc|home1:0?06:59
doc|homerather, 1,0?06:59
hwkiller-netbookah ok, so hw1,006:59
hwkiller-netbookyeah06:59
doc|homeok06:59
doc|homeresult!07:00
hwkiller-netbookso it works?07:00
doc|homeyep, as alsa07:00
hwkiller-netbookthat's totally weird07:00
doc|homedoes not play well with pulse though :(07:00
hwkiller-netbookhmm... I have all of my alsa stuff forwarded to pulse07:00
hwkiller-netbookwhich works just dandy07:00
doc|homehmmm07:00
doc|homeany idea how to force that?07:01
fm__hi, my apport catches crashes every now and then, but if i click on the ok button and check the reporting checkbox no browser window opens. this worked in the pre-release versions. any idea?07:01
hwkiller-netbookhttp://pastie.org/private/apd6qedkzusc40npifn6qq07:01
hwkiller-netbookthat's the file /etc/asound.conf07:01
doc|homeI don't have anything in there07:01
hwkiller-netbooktry out the config I posted then07:02
doc|homeexcept the last line? :)07:02
zetheroowhen opening Empathy I am constantly seeing this second (duplicate) of my gmail account (which does not connect), and then I remove it from the accounts list .. however on next boot of the machine and startup of empathy it again shows a duplicate gmail account!! Where is this duplicate coming from? - why does it keep reappearing?07:02
hwkiller-netbookoh, yeah07:03
hwkiller-netbookforget that07:03
hwkiller-netbooklol07:03
hwkiller-netbookstupid vim07:03
doc|homezetheroo: I've yet to try empathy and not immediately exit it and switch to pidgin07:03
doc|homeso do I need to start pulse to get this to work or should mpd be enough?07:03
doc|homeor alsa for that matter...07:03
MonkeyDusti use pidgin, it's very basic but i'm happy with it07:03
zetheroodoc|home: I like Pidgin too ... but it does seem to work well for me in 12.04 (something to do with Unity?)07:04
hwkiller-netbookdoc|home: you'll want to remove the "hw1,0" line from your mpd.conf07:04
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: I was going to switch it back to pulse07:04
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: bad idea?07:04
hwkiller-netbookYeah, it will probably not work07:04
doc|homeok07:04
hwkiller-netbookkeep it alsa, but let it figure out where to send its audio (hopefully to alsa's default, which is pulse)07:05
zetheroodoc|home: when I open Pidgin I cannot see the main window ... it's like it's hidden somewhere ... so I have to close Pidgin and re-open it a couple times before I can actually see the contacts list window ... :P07:05
doc|homerestarted mpd, came back playing, no sound :/07:05
doc|homedidn't restart alsa or pulse though :/07:05
hwkiller-netbookare you sure pulse isn't muted?07:05
doc|homeJul 13 00:05 : Failed to open mixer for 'My ALSA Device': no such mixer control: PCM07:05
doc|homefrom mpd.log07:05
doc|homehmmm07:06
doc|homethat's from the default config07:06
doc|homemy mpd.conf has that commented out07:06
doc|homezetheroo: I don't use unity so I've no idea :/07:06
zetheroois there somewhere else that Empathy picks up accounts from? Some other Broadcast settings or such?07:07
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: I've just clicked play on vlc and music started playing07:07
hwkiller-netbookdoes vlc use pulse?07:07
doc|homeshould do, though I was playing with that earlier. I thought I set it back but let me double check07:08
doc|homeoutput module: Default07:08
fm__can someone check a duplicate according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-logger/+bug/1006417/comments/4 ?07:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1006417 in telepathy-logger (Ubuntu) "telepathy-logger crashed with SIGSEGV in vfprintf()" [Undecided,Confirmed]07:08
doc|homeI forced it to pulse, is still working07:08
hwkiller-netbooktest it by opening something like pavucontrol (if you have it), because it'll show everything that is playing07:08
hwkiller-netbooksound settings might have that too though (again, I'm not on ubuntu right now)07:09
doc|homeI have pavucontrol07:09
doc|homeplayback tab?07:09
doc|homeI can see the vlc media player: audio stream equaliser-like thing pulsing up and down07:09
hwkiller-netbookdang07:09
doc|homehehe07:09
hwkiller-netbookI don't know, I really don't07:10
doc|homelet me try for mpd07:10
doc|homeaaaand nothing :)07:10
hwkiller-netbookit still seems like a permissions problem to me07:10
* doc|home mutters obscenities about audio07:10
hwkiller-netbookI wonder if it has anything to do with dbus/consolekit07:10
hwkiller-netbookin which case, I know nothing about fixing permissions07:10
doc|home:/07:10
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: thanks a lot for your help anyway07:11
doc|homeI appreciate the effort07:11
hwkiller-netbooknp, sorry I can't figure it out. I'm stumped! I never had those issues with mpd on arch.07:11
doc|homehehe07:11
hwkiller-netbookIt does seem like a permissions problem, but I don't know why it wouldn't be working now07:12
hwkiller-netbookmaybe you need to run pulseaudio as a systemwide instance, rather than user?07:12
hwkiller-netbookbecause mpd is another user trying to connect to your personal PA...07:13
doc|homethat'd make some sense07:13
Nuclear-muffin27What do i do if im banned from a chanel? can i be unbanned?07:13
doc|homeNuclear-muffin27: ask the person that banned you07:13
Nuclear-muffin27doc|home, how do i find out who banned me?07:13
DJonesNuclear-muffin27: Which channel07:13
Nuclear-muffin27DJones, #minecraft07:14
doc|homeNuclear-muffin27: were you there when the ban was put in place?07:14
Nuclear-muffin27doc|home yes07:14
doc|homeNuclear-muffin27: then check the scrollback, it'll tell you07:14
Nuclear-muffin27doc|home, scroll back?07:15
doc|homeNuclear-muffin27: can you pastebin the last 20 lines of the window that you could see before you were banned?07:15
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Nuclear-muffin27doc|home, it was to long ago its not there anymore07:16
MonkeyDustNuclear-muffin27  it's not a good idea to say that you were banned, it's never without reason07:16
Nuclear-muffin27MonkeyDust, Ok07:16
doc|homeFreeNode-#minecraft-June-2012.log:Jun 26 13:59:54 <Nuclear_muffin>you can kiss my ass07:16
doc|hometo an op I expect07:17
Nuclear-muffin27:D07:17
Nuclear-muffin27Probably not sure what i said though07:17
doc|homeFreeNode-#minecraft-June-2012.log:Jun 26 13:58:38 <Nuclear_muffin>a guy ripped me off so i griefed him07:17
Nuclear-muffin27hmm07:17
doc|homeanyway, Nikondork banned you07:17
doc|homelogs > Nuclear-muffin2707:17
doc|homeit was supposed to be for a week07:18
doc|homewas set in june07:18
Nuclear-muffin27hmm07:18
doc|homeso unless you did something since then, and I wasn't around, it should be done now. Ask Nikondork07:18
Nuclear-muffin27ok07:18
hwkiller-netbookdoc|home: did you manually start pulseaudio?07:19
doc|homeand then, when you get in, don't act like an ass07:19
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: nope, not once07:19
Nuclear-muffin27ok07:19
doc|homeI asked and you never said anything about it so I didn't touch it07:19
doc|homeshould I?07:19
doc|homeI could try a reboot too07:19
hwkiller-netbookno, I was wondering whether it was started as a user or as a system daemon07:19
xfxchildemorning everyone07:20
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: ah, it's running as me, in two instances, and as mpd in 207:20
doc|homeactually, /usr/bin/pulseaudio 1 me, 1 mpd, and /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper with 1me and 1mpd again07:21
hwkiller-netbookthat's... interesting07:21
hwkiller-netbooktry logging out and back in again to kill everything and reset pulse07:21
doc|homeok07:21
doc|homeone sec07:21
saliouhi07:22
salioui need ur help07:22
doc|homethat's interesting, it kills ethernet too!07:22
* doc|home sighs07:22
Kartagis!ask | saliou07:22
ubottusaliou: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:22
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: same thing07:23
doc|homeno change07:23
saliouokey07:23
saliouhow to run ns2 on ubuntu07:23
hwkiller-netbookdoc|home: pastebin the output of "pstree"07:24
imranhello07:24
imrancan any one help me07:25
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: http://pastebin.com/7950JusS07:25
DJones!anyone | imran07:25
ubottuimran: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.07:25
xfxchildeubotti: Lost cause LOL07:25
imranthanks07:25
xfxchildeubottu: Lost cause LOL*07:26
ubottuxfxchilde: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:26
xfxchildeubottu: Your awesomely intelligent.07:26
ubottuxfxchilde: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:26
xfxchildei take that back ;x07:26
olio$* and $@ , whats the difference07:26
hwkiller-netbookdoc|home: I think you have... four mpd07:27
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: http://pastebin.com/ZmbBSxbP07:27
* doc|home is a copy-pasting machine!07:28
hwkiller-netbookjust run ps -e|grep mpd07:28
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: oddly enough, if I kill mpd it still keeps pulseaudio sessions open07:29
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: just one instance07:29
doc|home 5670 ?        00:00:00 mpd07:29
imranmy network cable is always show as disconnected07:30
imranin all linux distros07:30
imran??07:30
doc|homeimran: have you checked to see that it's supported by some form of linux driver?07:30
hwkiller-netbookYou could try rebooting, but I don't think it'd help07:30
hwkiller-netbookI'm stumped.07:30
hwkiller-netbookand it's 3:30am, so my mind isn't going to get any more useful :p07:31
DulcinHi I'm not sure to formulate my question, but is there a way I can make my keyboard layout behave exactly the way it would in windows with the special keys? I tried all layouts with special keys, but none really match the behaviour I'm used to07:31
imranyes07:31
MonkeyDustimran  is the network card not damaged or out of order?07:31
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: it's worth a shot at this stage. Audio being audio, stranger things have fixed the problem. BRB07:31
imranno07:31
imranit works fine in Windows07:31
imrani am running openwrt on my netgear router07:31
hwkiller-netbookhave you tried setting it up manually07:32
imranas linux boots in, the network cable activity shuts off07:32
MonkeyDustimran  this is the ubuntu channel, not openwrt07:32
hwkiller-netbookip l set dev eth0 up07:32
imrani know07:32
imranbut the case is same on ubuntu07:32
hwkiller-netbookimran: ^^07:32
imranso i installed fedora same07:33
MonkeyDustimran  openwrt is not supported here07:33
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imranwhat about dd-wrt07:33
hwkiller-netbookimran: run the following in terminal: ip link set dev eth0 up07:33
hwkiller-netbookyou'll need root privelages07:33
imransure07:33
hwkiller-netbookthen just run dhcpcd eth0 (assuming that ubuntu uses dhcpcd, not dhclient)07:33
Tm_Timran: this channel is to support Ubuntu, as the channel says07:34
imrangive me all other commands also so that i can take info dump07:34
hwkiller-netbookthat should be it07:34
hwkiller-netbookip link set dev eth0 up07:34
raffaelhi, i've a problem here with a kernel crash and nfsv4 krb5, the server hangs with the message "INFO task rpc.idmap blocked for more than 120s", (2.6.32-33-server, libnfsidmap2  0.23-2), anyone who can help me?07:34
hwkiller-netbookdhcpcd eth007:34
imrani was so sad, to uninstall ubuntu07:35
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: nope :/07:35
hwkiller-netbooknot sure if it'll work; network manager should do it for you07:35
hwkiller-netbookbah, doc|home. sorry man. that's irritating07:35
StavaI need a wireless network card (PCI i suppose) for my desktop. Which one should I get for best compatibility with ubuntu?07:35
hwkiller-netbookI hate not solving a problem07:35
doc|hometrying to adjust the volume in sonata gives me {setvol} problems setting volume07:35
doc|homehwkiller-netbook: no worries, thanks for trying anyway :)07:36
imranthe fun part is that it works fine when i used a cisco router :)07:36
imranbut the network just dies when i run the router on open-wrt07:36
KartagisI did something to cairo-dock (I don't know/remember what it is) and now I don't see a program's additional windows. what can I do?07:38
imranRealtek PCIe GBE Family Controller07:38
imranPCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&REV_0607:39
imranthats it07:39
fAz4installing emacs-snaptshot by apt suggests me deleting 234, i386 packages !??07:39
imrani will try running that command07:40
imranand see07:40
fAz4why it wants to delete them !!?07:40
a5m0I followed this guide http://blog.markloiseau.com/2012/05/ubuntu-aes-xts-plain64/ but upon reboot I'm at a xubuntu screen that says "unlocking the deisk /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxx(crypt) Enter passphrase:" but typing does not do anything the status bar just cylons back and forth07:40
ldrroot     21421  0.0  0.0   3700   780 pts/0    S+   07:37   0:00 grep --color=auto -i tomcat.......what it means07:42
ldrthis i got when i run command  ps aux | grep -i tomcat07:42
ldrroot     21421  0.0  0.0   3700   780 pts/0    S+   07:37   0:00 grep --color=auto -i tomcat.......what it means, this i got when i run command....  ps aux | grep -i tomcat07:44
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Kartagisldr: that there is no process called tomcat07:47
ldrok07:47
KartagisI did something to cairo-dock (I don't know/remember what it is) and now I don't see a program's additional windows. what can I do?07:47
smallthunder. /msg nickserv help register07:48
DulcinIs there a way to change my keyboard from doing ẃ, when I type 'w, but do make it do é when I type 'e ?07:48
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KartagisDulcin: yea, hit space after you hit '07:51
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DulcinKartagis, yeah but on windows it doesn't put the ' on letters that don't use this in general, so I'm used to not hitting space everything I write : don't, won't, can't, etc.07:55
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KartagisDulcin: depending on your layout, ' shouldn't be placed on every single letter you type07:58
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Dulcinwell for  t it doesn't, but it simply doesn't type a t either if I typed ' before, so I end up with: don instead of don't07:59
DulcinI'm using US alternative with dead keys08:00
DarsVaedahi, I have a script that needs to access /var/www that runs under normal user rights, so I did "chown user /var/www" and "chmod -u=rwx /var/www" still my shellscript says it can not access the directory (its an ant build script)08:00
DarsVaedahow do I get that working?08:00
Dulcinno, just US alternative, international08:00
ps3thomashello i need help installing a java plugin08:01
Chat7679Hey08:05
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olioi want to install libqt4-multimedia   , how to install it08:11
xfxchildeapt-get install libqt4-multimedia ?08:13
aeplusthat's what i was about to guess...08:13
xfxchildeumm08:13
xfxchildeLol.08:13
sdauboyyou forget sudo08:13
xfxchildehe forgot google.. so were ok ;)08:13
aeplusis apt-get the preferred package manager?08:14
xfxchildei use it08:14
aeplusi've been more of a redhat/centos person, switched over from rpm to yum... was not sure about ubuntu, dpkg, and apt-get08:15
xfxchildeaeplus: yeah yum = apt-get08:16
xfxchildeaeplus: I find debian based distros to be easier then redhat for some reason.08:16
nina_!list08:17
ubottunina_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».08:17
aeplusi am running ubuntu 12.04 on my mini9 with LUKS... very slick, pretty responsive08:20
soothsayer1having trouble with a hp ew192aa webcam in ubuntu 12.0408:20
soothsayer1can anyone help?08:21
talha08:22
talhi all08:22
DarsVaedais there some tutorial how to best work with /var/www?08:27
DarsVaedaI need an ant script to do stuff in there but I cant access the files08:27
Kartagisghostchick++08:30
aeplusyou know... some administrators do not secure their web server... you can try writing a script that accesses the files and running it through the server08:30
Tm_Taeplus: just, no08:30
DarsVaedaI wouldnt want to do that O_o08:31
Jonnedoes anyone know what vnc client actually works to connect to mac os x in ubuntu?08:33
Guest4552hi08:33
DarsVaedait was so easy at the end -.-08:35
ikoniaJonne: any should work08:35
ikoniaJonne: I've used multiple ones08:35
DarsVaedajust add my user to the group www-data08:35
DarsVaedais that a bad idea? because it works08:35
Jonnenone of mine work, i get a black screen08:35
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Jonneshould the os x remote desktop thing be set up in some special way?08:35
Guest80560o dont understang08:35
ikoniaJonne: nope08:36
ikoniaJonne: the guys in #macosx can help confirm it's setup fine, but I've connected with many clients08:36
aeplusdars, doesn't that mean you do have access to the files?08:36
Jonnehost is os x server, btw08:36
ikoniaJonne: shouldn't matter08:36
Jonnehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleRemoteDesktop -> this is completely outdated, btw08:39
Jonnetsclient isn't even in the repo's any more08:39
sunzzjust resumed my system from standby - mouse stopped working...  what can i do about it?08:41
Jonneikonia, which client do you usually use?08:42
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ikoniaJonne: tightvnc was the one I used a few nights ago08:44
Jonnethrough the cli?08:44
Jonnextightvnc , etc ?08:45
ikoniaJonne: what do you mean through the cli ??? vnc is a graphical application08:46
Jonnewell, to start it you need to at least type xtightvncviewer in your terminal, right?08:47
Jonnei don't have a menu item for it08:47
soothsayer1any one can help ,me with a hp web cam. comes up q-tec 100 and i can't get it to install and work with cheese or ubuntu08:48
ikoniaJonne: depends what packages you use, launching it from the command line or a menu item doesn't matter08:49
Jonnepm'ed you, didn't want to spam the channel08:50
ikoniaJonne: why are you pm'ing me08:51
ikoniait's a support channel, that's what it's hear for, to talk about support issues08:51
Jonnebecause i didn't want to dump 5 lines of terminal output in the channel08:51
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ikoniaJonne: based on what you've sent me though, I'd suggest your vnc server is not running correctly/setup correctly,08:51
Jonnei'll go over to the mac and check its options08:52
ikoniaJonne: I used the default mac settings, and the default viewer settings (many times, tightvnc was the example a few nights ago) and it works fine08:52
paissad__hello guys, ... i would like to know whether or not it is possible to force the group to which a file will belong to whenever it is created into a directory foodir/08:52
paissad__for example, i may have users 'user_1', 'user_2' and so forth .... they are able (have right) to create files into foodir/ ... but whathever the group they do belong to ... i would like to force the group to "commonGroup"08:52
ikoniapaissad__: you can only great a file with group permissions of a group you are a member of08:53
paissad__ikonia: okay, but the problem is that 'user_1' and 'user_2'  belon to the same group, ... but they do not have the same group by default !08:54
paissad__do you see what i mean ? :/08:54
paissad__belong*08:54
ikoniapaissad__: ok, so you need to look at setgid on that directory to force it to create files with the group ownership of that directory08:54
paissad__i mean, they do not have the same GID by default08:54
Jonneok, changed some settings on the server and it works now08:57
Jonnetnx08:57
ikoniagreat08:57
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soothsayer1Anyone can help with a hp ew192aa web cam that comes up qtec 100 and i am trying to get it to work in ubuntu 12.0408:58
joseanntHola, necesito ayuda08:59
LjL!es | joseannt08:59
ubottujoseannt: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.08:59
jan1231hi09:00
soothsayer1greetings all09:02
klj613when i lock ubuntu (with gnome) sometimes after a while (the timeout, few mins) the screen goes blue and wont come back on when i move the mouse, ideas?09:06
jan1231f09:09
Volleyoghurtgoeeedee morgen09:09
john_kanonmoguh eten?09:10
john_kanoni am leaving cheers.09:10
oCeanVolleyoghurt, english here, /join #ubuntu-nl for dutch chat09:10
drag0niuswhats advantage/disadvantage of 64 bit ubuntu vs 32 bit?09:12
ikoniadrag0nius: one is better at using larger memory09:13
ikoniathat's pretty much the bottom line09:13
drag0niusim thinking which one to install on my dad's laptop09:13
ikoniayou may as well go for 64bit unless it's an old computer, as 64 is the norm, so moving forward you may as well be on the same platform09:14
he2hi09:15
he2does the 12.04 ubuntu come with unity or with gnome?09:15
he2i don't like gnome09:15
ikoniaunity09:15
jaywinkklj613, I have the same problem in Unity 3D, except the screen stays black. Though I've been running xorg-edgers PPA :P Took me a while to learn how to get back - I can accomplish it by switching to vtt 1 (ctrl-alt-f1) and then back (ctrl-alt-f7).. weird09:16
jaywinknow all my launcher and switcher icons have disappeared in unity 3D :P so using 2D for a while09:17
he2ikonia, are there any gnome-tools (network-manager, etc)09:17
jaywinkah the love of breaking your desktop by enabling too many experimental stuff :D09:17
ikoniahe2: yes09:17
livingdaylightgreetings, can someone please point me in the direction (guide/how-t0) to make various dvd's play on Ubuntu. Used to be I needed libdvdcss? but, can't seem to find it in repositories09:18
he2ikonia, are there plans to remove them?09:18
ikonia!ldvd | livingdaylight09:18
ikoniahe2: not that I'm aware of, they are a core part of the gnome desktop that unity is build on, so I don't see why they would09:19
ikonia!dvd | livingdaylight09:19
ubottulivingdaylight: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:19
livingdaylightikonia, thank!09:19
livingdaylightikonia, when I installed Ubuntu there was an option to install 3rd party proprietary codecs etc, which I enabled, so, not sure why I have to go round finding all the bits and bobs to make my system multimedia working09:20
ikonialivingdaylight: there are options to enable other repos, but you can follow that guide to add the repos/packages you need09:21
Onixs!ping09:28
ubottuanother contentless ping... sigh...09:28
Onixsssshh09:28
ldrhow to find ubuntu server configuration settings09:32
ikoniawhat do you mean "how to find"09:33
ikoniawhat do you want to configure09:33
sham-hackPlease help me config my Acer laptop wifi card!... it is not working ..09:35
bz!ping das ist content09:36
ubottubz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:36
sham-hackwhen i type lspci in teminal then it show me my driver but not working http://paste.ubuntu.com/1089540/09:37
ikoniasham-hack: lspci doesn't list drivers09:37
ikoniasham-hack: it just lists the physical devices in the PCI slots in your machine09:37
ikoniait shows nothing to do with working/configured etc09:37
bekkslspci -k lists the modules for the detected hardware too.09:38
sham-hackikonia : ok.. but my wifi driver is not working . when i visit ubuntu site then there i find this ldpci09:38
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bretthanybody tried lxde on ubuntu?09:39
ikoniabretth: all the lubuntu users have09:39
bekksbretth: I bet someone did.09:39
bretthi mean is it safe to install lxde on top of my current ubuntu.09:39
sham-hackikonia : do you have any idea how i run my acer wifi driver bcm59xx09:39
ikoniathe lubuntu-desktop package will install it onto ubuntu09:39
ikonia!wifi | sham-hack09:39
ubottusham-hack: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:39
ikonia!bcm | sham-hack09:39
ubottusham-hack: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx09:39
sham-hackyes bcm09:40
ikoniaread those links for a starting point09:40
sham-hackok i check ubottu09:40
AdvoWorkout of interest, how does someone begin/contribute to Ubuntu?09:40
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drag0niushow much space there should be for ubuntu desktop '/' if i use separate partition for /home?09:41
MonkeyDustAdvoWork  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved09:41
ikoniadrag0nius: depends on your disk layout09:41
AdvoWorkMonkeyDust, cheers09:42
drag0nius750gb disk, first 100 gb taken by win7 and last 350 gb by some ntfs storage09:42
drag0niusi've added swap to end of free space and now wanna add / to end and then rest to be shared between /home and win709:43
ikoniadrag0nius: do that then09:43
drag0niusbut how much for /09:43
ikoniadrag0nius: how ever much you want09:43
ikoniadrag0nius: it's your machine, your disk, your sizing09:44
drag0niuswould be enough, i don't know what is saved where09:44
ikoniadrag0nius: depends on your system size, 2GB is workable but very tight on space, so work up from there09:44
drag0niusand where are applications stored?09:44
drag0niusthose with apt-get install etc.09:44
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ikoniadrag0nius: they are distributed around eg: /usr/bin /usr/sbin /etc /var09:46
geirhadrag0nius: dpkg -L packagename   will show you the files that package installed09:46
sham-hackI install my acer driver then it again not working and also it show my message like this >> This driver is active but not currently in use.09:49
sham-hackDoes any one have idea how I fix this.09:50
sam-chello09:50
ikonia!wifi | sham-hack09:50
ubottusham-hack: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:50
ikonia!bcm | sham-hack09:50
ubottusham-hack: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx09:50
sam-cproblem with python 3.309:51
sam-con 12.10 alpha09:51
ikonia#ubuntu+1 is the discussion channel for 12.1009:52
edwinkcwsam-c: what problem?09:52
sham-hackubottu: my driver name is BCM57780 .09:52
sham-hackplease help me!09:52
ikoniasham-hack: read the links09:53
sam-cwhen I do aptitude update or upgrade crashs09:53
ikoniasam-c: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for 12.10 discussion09:53
sham-hackikonia : ok i am reading.09:54
bekkssham-hack: Thats the hardware you have, not the driver name.09:54
joel135how do I get the number of lines of a terminal window in bash?09:54
balduin_i have a problem with bumblebee and ubuntu precise. I have the graphic card nvidia ge 650 M GT, in my laptop.09:55
ikoniabash only displays 1 line09:55
bekksjoel135: You could use ncurses to do so.09:56
joel135is there a pipe that indents the output?09:56
ikoniano09:56
ikoniapipe does not change the output, the command you pipe it to does09:57
sham-hackbekks : but i see that name of back of my laptop!09:57
bekkssham-hack: It is still the name of the wifi chipset and NOT the driver name.09:57
bekksjoel135: The simple way would be to just use "tput lines".09:58
ps3thomasneed help in instaling ubuntu from usb drive09:59
drag0niushttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/09:59
sham-hackbekks : do you have any advice, how i find my driver name.09:59
drag0niusthen its exactly the same as cd install09:59
drag0niusyou just need to boot from usb (change boot order in bios)09:59
majdhey #ubuntu - i have a python file that i run, but i get a reccursion error, and the traceback does not fit into the terminal window, so i can't see the line that's causing the error. Is there a way to save the traceback into a file? i tried python myscript.py > error.txt, but the file turned out empty...10:00
majdi also tried python myscript.py | less, but that gave me empty file too...10:01
bekks!ask | ps3thomas10:01
ubottups3thomas: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:01
joel135ikonia: that's what I meant -- to alter the output, indenting it by some spaces10:01
ikoniajoel135: I don't believe so,10:01
balduin_ps3thomas: very easy use unebootin to copy from ubuntu-based distributions or use Universal installer (Windows) to copy a cd image on your usb-stick than boot from the usb stick, as normal10:01
richardkgood morning folks10:02
richardki'm trying to cross compile tcl10:02
richardki'm running into difficulties that are known here https://bugs.launchpad.net/cross-patches/+bug/62321210:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 623212 in Cross build source patching "[cross] compiling should run build host tclsh, not newly built target binary" [Undecided,New]10:03
ikoniarichardk: ok, so until that bug is resolved, you won't be able to move forward10:03
richardkikonia, i thought it says a fix has been released?10:03
bekkssham-hack: First, please just read the links you've been given.10:03
ikoniarichardk: is that fix on your system ?10:03
richardkikonia, you'll forgive me i hope, i'm not familiar with ubuntu. so i assumed any fix would be in the latest version10:04
ikoniarichardk: as I'm reading htat the fix is only in the tcl8.5 package10:05
ikoniarichardk: is that the package you are using.10:05
richardkyes10:05
ps3thomasive downloaded the iso file and unpacked it to the usb drive and set it to boot on usb disk but it keeps saying: error loading operating system10:05
sham-hackbekks : i found on that link that my wifdriver not supported :-- 14e4:4322 no BCM432210:05
ikoniarichardk: ok, give me a minute to read the detail please.10:05
richardkikonia, cheers10:05
sham-hackbekks :  no means not support.10:05
sham-hackbekks: do you have any idea what should i do now?10:06
bekkssham-hack: Which link exactly told you that?10:06
sham-hackhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx10:06
sham-hackbekks : and i found this on this page :- http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices10:06
bekkssham-hack: Then read that link again please, since it clearly states that the BCM4322 is supported.10:07
ikoniarichardk: can you do a dpkg -l | grep tcl8.5 please10:07
ikoniarichardk: pull out the full package version you are using10:07
sham-hackbekk :  i am follow that step.. wait what should i will find!10:08
setnerhi everyone10:08
richardkikonia, ii  tcl8.5                                 8.5.11-1ubuntu110:08
setnerwhen I install a package with aptitude, how can I know the full path where it was installed to?10:08
ikoniarichardk: ok, so the fix was released in 8.5.1ubuntu110:09
ikoniarichardk: trying to work out if yours is after that or from a different branch10:09
ikoniarichardk: what version of ubuntu are you using10:09
robotexhello10:09
richardksetner, maybe dpkg -S ?10:09
kelvinhi10:09
robotexapp review team send me message:10:09
robotexThe icons in /usr/share/icons should be installed to /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/mirrorcam too10:10
ps3thomasi got ubuntu on my system i need a update im running a old version. i cant install it10:10
robotexIn debial/install I have following lines:10:10
robotexicons/*                                 /usr/share/pixmaps/10:10
robotexicons/*                                 /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/mirrorcam/icons/10:10
robotexSo, I must change it to:10:10
robotexicons/*                                 /usr/share/icons/10:10
richardkikonia, sorry, please let me double check10:10
FloodBot1robotex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:10
robotexicons/*                                 /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/mirrorcam/10:10
robotexWhat did they mean?10:10
ikoniarichardk: no problem10:10
robotexWhat did they mean?10:10
setnerrichardk: thank you10:10
bekkssham-hack: And I have no clue why you think your wifi chipset is "BCM4322", because your pastebin of lspci doesnt detect that at all.10:10
josvukHow to check the 12.04ppc package repositories for installed versions?10:11
ikoniajosvuk: sorry, can you try to rephrase that10:11
sham-hackbekks : but my acer laptop already include that wifi driver.10:11
MonkeyDustjosvuk  apt-cache policy [package]10:11
richardkikonia, okay, so it's ubuntu 12.04 lts10:12
ikoniarichardk: ok, so this maybe the issue10:12
sham-hackbekks : my acer laptop is TRAVEL MATE 474010:12
sham-hacklatest10:12
ikoniarichardk: the fix is released to the 11.10 package10:12
bekkssham-hack: That may be. Still your pastebin doesnt tell anything about BCM4322. Pastebin the output of lspci -k please.10:13
ikoniarichardk: so it maybe either a.) the bug is not supposed to exist in the 12.04 package as it was an upstream fix, or b.) the fix has not been pushed out to later versions yet10:13
richardkikonia, i think b is more likely10:13
ps3thomasbalduin_: i got ubuntu on my system and ive downloaded the iso file to the usb drive and unpacked it to usb also but wen i boot it says error loading operating system10:13
richardkikonia, what's the simplest way to get hold of the 11.10 package?10:13
josvukI'm on 10.04 (PPC) so doing apt-cache search "package" it gives me only information for my system.10:13
sham-hackbekks : ok i will .10:13
ikoniarichardk: I would agree, but I'm also surprised as if a fix is released it should be pushed out to later packages10:13
ikoniarichardk: you can't use the 11.10 package on 12.0410:14
josvukbut how to do it for 12.0410:14
geirhamight be stuck in -proposed10:14
richardkikonia, why not, it's just a source?10:14
robotexIt is my debian/install https://github.com/NicholasShatokhin/mirrorcam/blob/master/debian/install10:14
ikoniarichardk: errr you want the source code, just go to the tcl website and download 5.810:14
ikoniarichardk: I thought you wanted the 11.10 package10:14
richardki'm actually only getting the package from ubuntu because i saw that it has a fix that does not seem to be present upstream10:14
robotexSo, I must change it to:10:15
robotexicons/*                                 /usr/share/icons/10:15
robotexicons/*                                 /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/mirrorcam/10:15
robotex am I right?10:15
setnercan anyone tell me why javahelp2 package on ubuntu does not contain the demos directory comparatively to downloading the JavaHelp system build from javahelp.java.net?10:15
ikoniarichardk: well, that bug suggest's it's also upstream10:15
richardkikonia, you think they fixed upstream? hmm10:16
sham-hackbekks : here the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1089589/10:16
ikoniarichardk: the bug's not massicly clear, I'm trying to work out10:16
bekkssham-hack: As you can see in lines 45-47, you have a BCM4358, which uses the "wl" driver.10:17
sham-hackbekks ok .10:17
ps3thomasI need help in booting ubuntu from usn drive10:18
toxiecoreboot10:18
sham-hackbekks : but it found wifi point in win-7  but how i manage in ubuntu10:18
richardkikonia, essentially the problem is that tcl tries to use the binary it built during the build process. but if you're cross compiling you can't execute what you built because your target is a different architecture10:18
ikoniarichardk: the bug report is quite good, the fix details / release are not10:18
ps3thomasanyone who can help on booting from usb10:19
ikoniarichardk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tcl8.5/+bug/62321210:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 623212 in Cross build source patching "[cross] compiling should run build host tclsh, not newly built target binary" [Undecided,New]10:19
ikoniarichardk: that's much better, that should give you the info10:19
balduin_ps3thomas use any program to copy your iso-cd-image on the usb-stick, else it dosn't work!10:20
ikoniarichardk: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/54261088/cross.diff10:20
ok_ps3thomas: what are you trying to do?10:21
ps3thomasbalduin_: so its not enough to unpack it to usb drive10:21
MonkeyDustps3thomas  you have to boot-install it, with unetbootin or so10:21
richardkikonia, there seems to be a patch https://launchpadlibrarian.net/54261088/cross.diff10:21
josvukWhat'is this all about "restricted, universe, multiverse ,with main or not"?10:21
ikoniarichardk: yup, that's the one I've just sent over to you10:21
richardkikonia, which is what i was hoping not to have to write myself :)10:21
ok_ps3thomas: I've not used it myself as i prefer cli options but unetbootin will give you a guy to create bootable usbs10:22
ikoniarichardk: well, just patch your source with that patch and test it10:22
ikonialooks like it should work10:22
ok_sorry that should be *GUI10:22
ps3thomasok_: where do i find it10:22
ok_ps3thomas: dude10:22
richardkikonia, indeed, here's hoping. i've mentioned it to the tcl folk, so maybe they'll fix it upstream if it isn't already (whcih iirc it isn't)10:23
ps3thomasim new to ubuntu10:23
ps3thomasok_: im new to ubuntu10:23
ikoniarichardk: I'd be dissapointed if it's not upstream10:23
ok_ps3thomas: well at least google stuff people tell you, speeds things up10:23
ps3thomasok_: dude im right on top of it10:24
robotexwhere must be located app icons?10:24
ok_ps3thomas: cool, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/10:24
robotexin /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/<appname> only? (or in /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/<appname>/icons?)10:25
balduin_ps3thomas: no its not enough to unpack the iso files, because the usb-stick have to prepare for booting with an mbr and something. On which plattform do you work, for example Linux or Windows?10:25
ps3thomaslinux10:26
robotexor I must duplicate it in /usr/share/icons ?10:26
ok_ps3thomas: if you want to explore command line options have a look at the man entry for the command dd10:26
richardkikonia, well the comments on that page suggest for some reason that the tcl folk might not be happy with it10:26
ikoniarichardk: so a bun fight10:27
giteshI would like to prefer using alternatives to GNOME.10:27
giteshHow do i uninstall Gnome and install another one?10:27
ps3thomasok_: when i get the file what then??10:27
richardkikonia, heh, a bun fight? what is that? but yeah, it is irritating, for people cross compiling at least10:27
ikoniarichardk: fight between fixer and upstream10:28
richardkikonia, i see :D10:28
MonkeyDustgitesh  type !notunity10:28
ok_ps3thomas: you're going to give me some background to what you're trying to do. I'm kinda assuming you want to make a bootable usb stick from some .iso file?10:28
balduin_ps3thomas: open a terminal and type in: sudo apt-get install unetbootin10:28
gitesh!notunity10:28
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic10:28
richardkikonia, i'm just going to double check that it's not been fixed upstream10:28
ps3thomasok_: your right10:28
balduin_ps3thomas: but this tool work only for linux if you need a windows installation use another tool pls!10:29
ok_ps3thomas: oh sorry your a sing how to install unetbootin tho just not aren't you10:30
ps3thomasbalduin_:  im running linux ubuntu old version and i need to get the new vwrsion of ubuntu10:30
gitesh!kubuntu10:30
ubottuKubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde10:30
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giteshThanks. MonkeyDust10:30
ok_ps3thomas: yea use balduin_'s apt-get command from above10:30
ps3thomasbalduin_: installing now10:32
ps3thomasbalduin_: done10:32
ok_ps3thomas: you should find the gui fairly strainghtforward10:33
giteshcan i use different User Interfaces on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS  ?10:34
ikoniagitesh: yes, multiple desktop interfaces are available10:34
balduin_ps3thomas: okay, now start the graphical program unetbootin and select your distribution, but make sure that you have formatet your usb-stick with fat32 else it does not work!10:34
cfhowlettgitesh, yes10:34
k1l_gitesh: you mean different DesktopEnviroments? yes, you can choose them in the login screen10:34
giteshok.10:34
ps3thomasbalduin_: ok ill try10:35
ps3thomasbalduin_: how do i check my version of ubuntu10:38
Tectuis there a list of USV/UPS devices which work with ubuntu server out of the box?10:38
bekksTectu: Every UPS works out of the box. The only question os, wether there is a neat CLI/GUI to configure that UPS, or wether there is a webinterface on the UPS.10:39
Tectubekks, i only want to give my ubuntu server the ability to shut down correctly10:39
ps3thomasok_: how du i check my version of ubuntu10:40
balduin_ps3thomas: i don't understand. On unetbootin you have to select the distribution what you want to install on your stick. Select the ISO Image and the usb-stick and let unetbootin run10:40
Tectubekks, don't i need a special client program on my ubuntu server, so when the UPS connected over USB does send some command it shut's down10:41
Tectus/shut's/shuts10:41
ok_ps3thomas: $ lsb_release -a10:41
richardkit's not fixed in 8.5, could be in 8.6 though. i'm not going to check that though10:41
ok_ps3thomas: its also I'm system info but i'm in mac at the moment so can't remember where that s I'm afraid10:41
ikoniarichardk: at least you know10:42
ok_ps3thomas: i don't know my way around the gui very well I'm afraid10:42
bekksTectu: Which involves a CLI at least - or a webinterface. You have to be able to configure what the UPS shall send.10:42
Tectubekks, i guess that' does every 100$ UPS?10:42
ok_ps3thomas: sorry that above is a command with the $ representing ur prompt (don't type the $)10:42
bekksTectu: No.10:42
ps3thomasbalduin_: i think im running the same version that the unboot is distubuting10:43
pratzhello guys, i know this is off topic - youtube.com does not open in my browser, i guess it is blocked, how can i know on what level it is blocked ?10:43
ok_ps3thomas: what do you get from lsb_release -a?10:43
Ubuntubruger9Hi guys. Have you been experiencing problems with iptables? Everything goes dead if I set policy on INPUT to DROP even though I did -m conntrack --ctstate established,related -j accept on input as 1st rule!10:43
ikoniapratz: you can't10:43
Ubuntubruger9Btw, it's on 12.0410:44
ok_Ubuntubruger9: well i'd try ping'ing it10:44
Tectubekks, but why do i need some webinterface? sholdn't something like this work?   http://blog.is-a-geek.org/konfiguration-einer-apc-backup-ups-auf-ubuntu-serverdesktop10:44
cfhowlettpratz, if in china like I am, blocked by the gov't...10:44
ps3thomasok_: thomas@hans-laptop:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS Release:10.04 Codename:lucid10:44
bekksTectu: When having an APC UPS, that should work.10:45
ok_ps3thomas: so great 10.04, you going to install 12.04?10:45
ps3thomasok_: yes exaly10:45
ok_ps3thomas: if ur confused about what version unetbootin will get for you just grab the iso image you want off the ubuntu site and use the manual option at the bottom10:46
ok_ps3thomas: or say if you wanted the alternative iso or the business card  or whatever10:46
Ubuntubruger9ok_: I don't need any services to be open - it's a laptop - only need it for browsing and I haven't got any problems with <11.1010:47
Tectubekks, thank you very much.10:47
pratzcfhowlett: it is blocked by company10:47
pratzcfhowlett: can i find on why level it is blocked ?10:47
Code_Factoryhey guys, I'm having problems installing ubuntu server on a pc.. @ detect and mount cd-rom10:48
Code_Factoryany ideas?10:48
ok_Ubuntubruger9: ? I'm sorry what? i think you've picked up on something i was saying to ps3tthomas10:48
balduin_ps3thomas: the version you running as host operating system is totaly uninteresting. You have to select your image in unetbootin and your usb-stick. The programm do the work for you. For example you can run unetbootin under Ubuntu and install the debian, fedora or opensuse image to your stick!10:48
cfhowlettpratz, ah.  talk with your company IT, but I'd guess you're risking a policy violation by trying to bypass the block.10:49
ok_balduin_: he asked how to find his os version10:49
pratzcfhowlett: hmmm10:49
ok_balduin_: but yes agreed!10:49
savolai_hi. is it possible to decrypt a ecryptfs-encrypted home directory and then use photorec on the decrypted image to restore files accidentally deleted inside the home dir?10:50
giteshI have another quest. Unix > Linux > Debian > Ubuntu  . Am i right ?10:51
savolai_gitesh, I guess you could say that in some sense. linux does not contain unix code I think though, but all the rest contain the previous one :)10:52
giteshwhere is "distro" ?10:52
savolai_gitesh, both debian and ubuntu10:52
giteshok. Thanks savolai_10:52
balduin_ok_: uname -a10:53
balduin_ps3thomas: uname -a10:53
penreturnstry this sir... open terminal and run this line :  uname -a; cat /etc/lsb-release10:55
ok_penreturns: dude I've already got the printout of lsb_release -a10:56
penreturnsalright then10:56
ok_penreturns: balduin_: this is what e got thomas@hans-laptop:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS Release:10.04 Codename:lucid10:57
penreturnsso u are running 10.0410:57
robotexbb10:57
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ok_penreturns: dude you are covering old ground here10:58
ps3thomasbalduin_: sorry i just got a call10:59
savolai_re: my question. is it possible to turn an .ecryptfs image into a regular file system image?11:00
mixxciao11:00
mixx!list11:00
ubottumixx: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».11:00
giteshone last quest of the day, how do I become System Administrator ?11:01
fidelgitesh: what do you mean by that?11:01
LaykeBUy a tshirt that says "Sys Admin"11:01
fidelgetting permissions without having them - or getting experience? ;)11:01
cfhowlettgitesh, your system?  You ARE the sysadmin11:02
ps3thomasbalduin_: i think im on the right path now..11:02
giteshi meant System Administrator qualification11:03
giteshLayke, lol11:03
Myrttigitesh: I doubt there is such a thing in any jurisdiction. If you want to discuss it further, please join #ubuntu-offtopic for followups11:04
giteshMyrtti , ok. Thanks11:04
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ps3thomasi got a gray sceen with a bow that says unetbooting in the bow it says default and under the box it says >ubnkern initrd=/ubninit11:05
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ps3thomasbalduin_: i got a gray sceen with a bow that says unetbooting in the bow it says default and under the box it says >ubnkern initrd=/ubninit11:06
ps3thomasbalduin_: box not bow11:06
ps3thomasok_: i got a gray sceen with a bow that says unetbooting in the bow it says default and under the box it says >ubnkern initrd=/ubninit11:07
WaltherHi - I need help with my Canon multifunctional - Scanning doesn't work.11:07
lbokenhi all im installing a new  ubuntu on my computer i i never know how much swap should i give it  ( i have 2 gig of ram)11:07
WaltherI installed the drivers from Canon website, but scangearmp reports "no available printers"11:07
zax1hi guys, very linux green here. i have a silvercrest tablet i want to use. but butun do not seem to recognise it, how do i get it to work ?11:07
Waltherlboken: 2x ram is a good rule of thumb11:07
Waltherlboken: 4gb should do11:08
ikoniazax1: as in drawing tablet ?11:08
zax1yes11:08
lbokenok thanks walther11:08
szal2x is a bit too much imho, 1.5x should do11:08
Waltherszal: 2x is easier to remember and do the math for, and for most people, it doesn't do any harm11:08
ok_ps3thomas: umm I'm not sure man, like i say I've never used the software, just heard that it works. a link to a screen shot might help a little tho.11:08
Waltherzax1: I've got an old wacom and it works out of the box, weird11:08
ps3thomasbalduin_: it says automatic boot in 10 sec counts down and starst over again11:09
zax1not so weird i tthink, in system pref there is a specific wacom tablet section11:09
lbokennext question   should i have  a  partition mounted into / and one for /home or should only 1 filesystem mounted to / be better?11:11
* Walther <3 his Wacom Graphire 3 6x8"11:12
Waltherlboken: separate / and /home leads to easier future installations11:12
Waltherlboken: as in, you can do a "pseudo-clean" install by formatting the / while keeping your /home intact11:12
lbokenk  so ill have  2 file system then    just need to guess now the size i should give them thanks again walther11:13
bekkslboken: 20G for / should be enough.11:13
DSSLHas anyone else had the stupidity to run sudo chmod -R 777 /?11:13
Waltherlboken: what's your HDD size?11:13
lafonzax1: Try looking at the posts here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608004 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9966110&postcount=111:13
bekksDSSL: I've heard of a few. Why?11:13
zax1lafon: justran lsusb , and , indeed this silvercrest tablet is a waltop11:14
zax1brilliant, trying this now11:14
DSSLbekks: just wondering if I'm the only one11:14
lbokenwalther i have a 300 gig  left after i kept the 15 gig for the restor of the windows that came wiht my pc and  after i put 4 gig for my  swap11:14
Waltherlboken: 4GB for swap, 20GB for /, rest for home11:14
bekksDSSL: You have a backup, dont you?11:14
lbokenk thanks walther and also thanks  bekks11:15
Waltherno problem11:15
DSSLbekks: Nope. I seem to have borked my entire install with that lovely command.11:15
bekksWalther: lboken: swap size == RAM size, 20GB for /, rest for home11:15
bekksDSSL: Correct.11:15
Waltherbekks: well, swap should be over ram size for the hibernate/sleep functions to work11:15
WaltherSo I would say 1.5-2x ram for swap11:15
zax1lafon: thats quite an involved process...11:16
WaltherAnd with today's HDD sizes, it does no harm11:16
bekksWalther: Incorrect. Hibernation/suspend will never use more than your physical RAM.11:16
zax1see if my limited skills can stand up to it11:16
lafonzax1: Probably. I don't have a tablet so I'm not exactly sure what happens11:16
bekksWalther: And nowadays, when having boxes with 16GB+, thats just a waste of space to have 32GB RAM like on HPUX. :)11:17
bekkss/RAM/SWAP/11:17
oliohave any one try voice recognisation software on ubuntu ?11:17
fidelolio: any specific one you are looking for?11:17
Waltherbekks: I know. But the users with that kind of computers most probably know what they're doing - 1.5x-2x ram is a good advice for beginners11:17
bekksWalther: It was, 15y ago. :)11:18
Waltherwell tomato, tomato.11:18
oliofidel : no specific , i just want a voice recognisation software like win 711:18
Walther...anyway.11:18
WaltherI could use some help getting scanning working on my computer11:18
WaltherRunning 12.04, Canon MG515011:18
BluesKajHey all11:18
fidelolio: so you havent searched yourself right?11:19
oliofidel : have you try any voice recognisation s/w yet on ubuntu ?11:19
olioolio : searched many but evey time i fail to install them11:19
oliofidel : i found spinix , xvoice , gnom voice control etc11:20
Waltherveeti@corretto:~$ scanimage11:20
Waltherscanimage: no SANE devices found11:20
jacobatHiya. I had a kernel panic (unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference) and was only able to snap this screenshot of the console: http://cl.ly/3h0R0o2a1S462a0A0N0b - any ideas what might be causing it or how I might get more information about what could be the cause?11:20
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Guest50841hello all what is best ide for python???11:22
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arian--- hello all what is best ide for python???11:23
bekksGuest50841: There is no "best" regarding software.11:23
fidel!poll11:23
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.11:23
chu!best | arian---11:23
ubottuarian---: please see above11:23
wehrunglink11:23
arian---chu: yes best :D11:23
olioany voice recognisation software except dragon that work well and easy to install11:24
fidelarian---: we are trying to tell you - like we tried already yesterday - that asking for BEST is ****wrong/not good/not helpful11:24
chuarian---: If you want to persist, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic I suppose.11:24
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bzgive the guy a break, he just wants help with making a decision11:30
bzinstead of debating semantics with him, how about giving actual suggestions?11:31
bzironpython, bpython, python -i, et altera11:31
bzchrist11:31
bekksbz: There is no suggestion, since there is no "best" solution for a given task.11:31
richardkthere's also a python plugin for eclipse which seems alright11:31
chuPardon?11:31
bekksI'd suggest vi.11:31
bzbekks: re-read what i wrote11:31
richardk(pydev)11:32
luukr007!EBrarian Beth Wiseman - [Daughters of Promise 01] - Plain Perfect (epub).rar11:32
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j0llyawolfson,11:56
citric_acidhi11:56
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citric_acidif i need to backup the system  "/"  partition (aka "only system files", *no* home, mnt, etcetera) to be able to fully recover the system installation what tar command do i need to use? will "tar -cpPjvf backup_of_today.tar.bz2 /" (to run from a live cd to backup the partition of my installation ) be ok? Or would i need some more parameters to preserve symlinks?11:58
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geirhacitric_acid: tar -cf  or  pax -wf  should suffice really12:03
geirhacitric_acid: Wouldn't it be easier to just use something like clonezilla?12:05
collinjsimpsonwhat would backporting GPSd 3.7 to ubuntu 10.04 require?12:05
citric_acidgeirha: tar -cf is not ok, it doesnt preserve file permission. And i *need* it to copy also the symlinks.12:06
citric_acidgeirha: clonezilla? does it save the backup in tar.bz2 format ?12:06
m4tthumphreyhelp! http://askubuntu.com/questions/163081/setting-up-my-www-directory-correctly12:08
geirhacitric_acid: tar -cf does preserve file permissions and such ... when run as root.12:08
bekkscitric_acid: No.12:09
geirhacitric_acid: I don't know what format(s) clonezilla uses, but it's designed for the task you're trying to achieve with tar12:09
ps3thomasbalduin_: i got it now dude.. thnx for the help =-)12:13
ps3thomasok_: i got it figured out... thnx 4 the help dude.. =-)12:14
ok_ps3thomas: nw man, sorry if i was being a little short with you at times12:15
ps3thomasok_: thats allright im not able to give you the right specifics couse im new to ubuntu so i can understand12:16
citric_acidgeirha: not really.  :( i need a file that i can use to restore the system and i need it to be extractable via a live cd that only have tar and bzip2 as extraction tools...12:17
citric_acid(that's why i need tar.bz2 or tar.gz )12:17
geirhawell, try tar -cf as root (plus whichever compression), then try extracting it, as root, in a VM, to see that all the permissions and symlinks are preserved12:19
LogicoHi, I have 12.04 and my HD is doing a noise like "clicks", it happens between few seconds of inactivity12:33
citric_acidknown-working methods? (i think i'm the only one that backup system files instead of /home data ... lol XD )12:34
Logicoit's a Western 1TB SATA 312:34
ncpLogico, do you have SMART enabled?'12:34
Logiconcp, no, I disabled it on BIOS12:35
ncpLogico, i would do some checking of your harddrive12:36
Logiconcp, the Western diag tool didnt find any problem12:37
bluenemodoes anyone have the Creative Sound Blaster Tactic3D headset and knows if it is working with ubuntu (12.04)?12:37
Logiconcp, the command sudo hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda returns:12:37
Logico/dev/sda:12:37
Logico setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled12:37
Logico HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error12:37
Logico APM_level= not supported12:37
FloodBot1Logico: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:37
Logicoops, sorry by the flood =/12:37
LogicoI actually dont know what exaclty this message means12:38
rayleighhi i have installed tuxguitar instead of guitar pro in ubuntu 1204, but its sound is very different from guitar pro and i dunno how to deal with it12:40
salvatoreIs it possible to install DJANGO - python on an apache web server where is already running PHP 5? i tried it but it broke my apache config and php applications stopped to work12:40
pratzhey guys can any one suggest any good networking irc channel ?12:44
rayleighdoes anyone see my question?12:45
rayleighpratz austnet #chatzone12:45
oCeanpratz: I'd say ##networking12:45
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rayleighanyone use tuxguitar?12:55
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lbokenhi again a little trouble  i did surly somthing wrong cause now my pc only boot on my windows recovery partition (wish i didnt wanted to delete). would it be a way to keep it and yet still have my linux12:55
never2faris it possible to install only the man page of a program ?12:55
geirhanever2far: "No", but you can look at man-pages at http://manpages.ubuntu.com12:57
toxie_toxie_12:57
ghostchicklboken, why not sudo update-grub12:57
zixxyrayleigh, I haven't, but it looks like the project has been abandoned. The latest news on their website is from 2009 and the forum is filled with spam about 'replica' watches.12:59
lbokenghostchick but ill have to install  the boot on the  recovery wont i?  i just hope it wont break it then12:59
lbokenthat probably my mistake i put the boots up in the  same partition than my /12:59
rayleighzixxy, yes it is...so do you have any better software about music edition?13:00
salvatoreIs it possible to install DJANGO - python on an apache web server where is already running PHP 5? i tried it but it broke my apache config and php applications stopped to work13:01
ghostchicklboken,  ubuntu will just pick up all the partitions normally13:02
lbokenk  thanks   now i have to reinstall my ubuntu13:03
stef_ksalvatore, yes i am running on linode apache + nginx with php, python and ruby, 1 wordpress installation, 1 django site and a RoR app (redmine)13:03
j_ayen_greenWith apt-get install apc-php, I get The following packages have unmet dependencies:13:04
j_ayen_green  php-apc: Depends: phpapi-20090626+lfs  E: Broken packages13:04
salvatorecan you help me with Django installation?13:04
zixxyrayleigh, no. Sorry, I just play the same scales over and over ;)13:04
rayleighzixxy, anyway, thank you~13:04
stef_kcheck this guide http://library.linode.com/frameworks/django-apache-mod-wsgi/ubuntu-10.10-maverick13:05
salvatorewhat isi linode?13:06
lbokenjust to make sure i dont make a mistake again do i install the boot up on sda or sda1 >(sda1 is my windows 7 recovery partition) sda6 is my   / , and sda7 is /home and sda5 is swap .13:06
salvatorethis guide is for ubuntu 10.10... i got 12.04lts13:07
salvatorewill it work?13:07
stef_kMy server was 10.04 , upgraded to 12.04 and runs just fine13:07
stef_kYour apache must have mod_wsgi. Enable a new site pointing your Django app. Inside your Django app you must have your .wsgi settings file.13:09
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jpsiyuhello13:14
jpsiyui come here first time:-[13:15
stef_kwelcome13:15
jpsiyuthanks13:15
xmint9hello.. good afternoon evryone..13:16
stef_khi13:16
xmint9:)13:16
jpsiyugood evening:-D13:17
xmint9im on searching for a game kind like a gomoku, is it exist one for linux..?13:17
stef_kgood evening:-D <- to you to13:17
xmint9thanks before...13:17
xmint9;)13:18
j_ayen_greenDid a pecl install apc, and it ran clean, but then I'm supposed to service php5-fpm (or php-fpm) restart, but its not present?13:18
OerHeksxmint9, gomoku does exist in softwarecentre.13:19
j_ayen_greencan anyone point me to clean instructions for installing apc on ubuntu 10.04 / php 5.2 ?13:20
OerHeksxmint9, so you didn't even seach for it ?13:20
MonkeyDustj_ayen_green  is this useful http://www.electrictoolbox.com/install-apc-php-linux/13:21
klj613how do i generate a public key from my private key? via CLI13:23
namelezzxmint9, gomoku.app, bovo and gridlock... all of them in the software center13:24
stef_kklj613, check under your ~/ .ssh folder cat id_rsa.pub13:24
OerHeksklj613, when you generate keys, you make public & private at the same time. not afterwards.13:24
tkinghi guys i did gksudo nautilus /usr/share/unity/places on 12.04 trying to remove lense13:24
tkingand i gotCould not find "/usr/share/unity/places".13:24
j_ayen_greenMonkeyDust: no, php5-dev won't install either13:25
OerHekstking,  .../places is a folder, not a file13:25
tkingOerHeks, i want to go there and remove it13:25
tkingfollowing oline instruction to remove Rotten Tomatoes lens13:26
klj613stef_k, OerHeks, yes. but what if after a few months, the you cant find the .pub? you know the password to the private key, i would assume you can generate the public key from the private one?13:27
oCeanklj613, OerHeks sure you can generate pub from existing priv key:  next command will re-create your id_rsa.pub   ssh-keygen -f ~/.ssh/id_rsa -y > ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub13:27
klj613oCean, thanks13:27
dwakartking may be it doesn't exist13:28
dwakartry /usr/share/unity/lenses13:28
j_ayen_greenso strange. I follow the directions and do a pecl install of apc, which seems to run clean http://pastebin.com/f3aWZwt8  but a find on apc.so comes up empty13:35
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DeLorean731I'm trying to open up multiple instances or Tor on ubuntu 12.04... anyone have experience with doing that?13:37
Guest27559clear13:37
BluesKajDeLorean731, running several pcs thru Tor from the same router ?13:42
nilsonmoralestheres is a application like Adobe After Effects for ubuntu13:42
marcoHi! Where is the list of icons in the unity launcher stored/persisted?13:42
nilsonmoralestheres is a application like Adobe After Effects for ubuntu?13:43
marconilsonmorales: there are some video editors for ubuntun, if that is your question13:43
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bwat47macro: if you change the icon of the corresponding .desktop file in /usr/share/applications it should change the icon that shows in the launcher/dash13:46
nilsonmoralestnx marco13:47
nilsonmoralesa friend from brasil ask me but i dont see anymore in the channel13:47
nilsonmoralestnx anyway13:47
marconilsonmorales: just take a brief look on the software center. Look for video editors13:48
nilsonmoralessure copy13:48
RelondoSo, I used "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to install XFCE. How do I actually switch to XFCE?13:54
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j_ayen_greenI have php5-dev pinned for Karmic, but am getting Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic/main php5-dev 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu613:58
j_ayen_green  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80] when trying to install it13:58
Chad__Relondo: You switch to it in the login screen13:58
Guest62355hola alguna persona de españa?13:58
Pici!es | Guest6235513:58
ubottuGuest62355: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:58
RelondoChad___: Thanks13:58
j_ayen_greenkarmic distros aren't there anymore??14:01
BluesKaj!karmic14:01
ubottuUbuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 29th 2011, see http://ubottu.com/y/karmic for details.14:01
IdleOne!eolupgrade | j_ayen_green14:04
IdleOnej_ayen_green: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:04
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mikehaas763Hi. I am going to begin developing an open source program from an idea I have. My focus in the beginning is having it for Ubuntu/Linux distros. However, if it takes off I would like to be able to release windows/mac os x versions. Java is not an option and is actually THE reason I am developing this program because java has too many issues (performance mostly) on linux unless you have a blazing fast machine. What are some14:14
mikehaas763good language/gui kit combos to use?14:14
bwat47qt14:15
mikehaas763While keeping in mind future cross compatibility.. but without having the user install third party tools14:15
bwat47Qt is pretty good cross platform, look at clementine for an example cross platform qt app14:16
bwat47runs on linux/windows/osx14:17
habibhey everyone. when i'm plugging in headphones it doesn't work14:17
mikehaas763bwat47: Thanks, I'll take a look14:17
carl__I was hoping someone could answer a question.14:17
carl__I have a package that I am trying to install openscad14:18
bekksWithout asking the question, impossible :)14:18
mikehaas763bwat47: Is Qt decently snappy/fast so long as it is coded well?14:19
bwat47yeah14:19
carl__I keep getting a dependance problem. thing is I show that a newer version of the package is already installed. Is there a way to force the openscad to install?14:19
bwat47ubuntu one client uses qt, unity 2d uses it14:19
bekkscarl__: I dont think there is a way to break dependencies forcibly.14:20
bwat47carl__:  you could try using the 'force version' option in synaptic  (if u have synaptic installed)14:20
habibwhy headphones just doesn't work?14:20
aboudreaultdamn... the sleep mode works so bad in precise :(14:21
habibheadphones is ok but when i'm plugging it in it just doesn't give sound14:21
mikehaas763bwat47: Ah ok cool. What language would you recommend? I love OO programming so maybe C++. It mentions C++ on the website.14:21
bwat47mikehaas763: yeah, qt is c++ focused.14:21
m0ttehi - if i start without X, it is possible to get two differnt tty in dual-monitor support instead of cloning? thx14:21
craigbass1976http://www.gaggl.com/2012/05/install-gimp-2-8-on-ubuntu-12-04/  Can anyone tell me why this might be a bad idea?  I'd really love ot have GIMP running in a single window, and 2.8 is when that finally happens14:22
bwat47habib: they should generally just work, if they don't sometimes you have to use some kind of little workaround, depends on computer model. have you tried googling your modem + headphones don't work etc..?14:22
bwat47*model14:23
MonkeyDustcraigbass1976  it would be a PPA and a PPA is not officially supported14:23
MonkeyDustcraigbass1976  in other words: use at own risk14:23
OsmodivsEverytime i try to open VLC my computer goes back to the login screen, What the hell is wrong here? I already did a ubuntu-bug report, but I want to know if this is a known issue14:23
mikehaas763craigbass1976: There really isn't anything "bad" about doing that. It's just that it's a not official PPA so it's not supported and the PPA could even be taken offline but who cares once you have it installed14:23
bwat47Osmodivs: its not an issue I've seen personally14:24
bwat47craigbass1976: it works fine for me, but as mentioned above use at your own risk :)14:25
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Osmodivsbwat47: Is there a way to fix this?14:26
j_ayen_greenIdleOne: I'm running 10.04, but I'm running 5.2 on it because several of the sites are Drupal 6, hence Karmic packages for php14:28
craigbass1976MonkeyDust, is there no reference now to the repository I added?  I don't see it in /etc/apt-sources.list14:29
habibbwat47 thing is that sound is ok. when it's not through headphones it plays ok. and phones with other device work good but when i plug it into my ubuntu netbook sound just stops14:30
dr_willissee sources.list.d/  craigbass197614:31
craigbass1976dr_willis, Aha...14:32
OsmodivsWhere can I find extra information of the system crash so I can file a bug report in LAUNCHPAD?14:32
j_ayen_greenso if karmic is removed from the archives, does that mean 5.2 is gone?14:32
j_ayen_greenphp 5.214:32
craigbass1976MonkeyDust, if I remove this unofficial repo from /etc/apt/sources.list.d, and then do an update, will I then be back on GIMP 2.6 instead of the 2.8 I added the repo for?14:33
MonkeyDustcraigbass1976  type info gimp to know what's in the repos -- don't mix ubuntu versions, unless you like to repair your system without support from the channel14:34
antukincraigbass1976: remove current, update and then install it14:34
lotuspsychjewhats more lightweight for an old laptop lubuntu or xubuntu?14:34
padhuI installed flux box. My cairo-dock displays with black background. How can i change this?14:35
DamienCassouhi14:36
DamienCassouwhat is the software that facilitates the creation of programming projects. I heard something exists that creates the folder hierarchy and put default files inside14:37
MonkeyDustpadhu  i guess cairo depends on compiz, which is not used in fluxbox14:37
dr_willis!ppa-purge14:37
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html14:37
MonkeyDustDamienCassou  it's called quickly14:37
OsmodivsWhere can I find extra information of the system crash so I can file a bug report in LAUNCHPAD?14:37
DamienCassouMonkeyDust: yeah, that's it. Thank you14:37
IdleOneDamienCassou: it is called Quickly check in #ubuntu-app-devel for more help14:37
lotuspsychjewhats more lightweight for an older laptop: lubuntu or xubuntu or gnome-classic?14:38
dr_willislotuspsychje: lubuntu14:38
lotuspsychjedr_willis: tnx14:38
DamienCassoulooks like quickly is dedicated to Ubuntu. I thought it was something more general14:38
DamienCassoubut I think this was the software I had in mind, thanks14:39
dr_willislotuspsychje:  only thing lighter would be just a window manager. ;)14:39
lotuspsychjedr_willis: any sugestion for a lighter window manager for lubuntu?14:39
antukinopenbox14:39
lotuspsychje!info openbox14:40
ubottuopenbox (source: openbox): standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.0-2ubuntu2 (precise), package size 298 kB, installed size 1316 kB14:40
dr_willis!info jwm14:40
ubottujwm (source: jwm): very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (precise), package size 108 kB, installed size 270 kB14:40
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  jwm14:40
MonkeyDustdr_willis  was faster :)14:40
dr_willisjwm is about as light as it gets14:40
lotuspsychjedr_willis: can jwm run firefox or chrome?14:40
padhuokey i will try with wbar14:40
douglasHello all! Please, how do I get the gnome classic available? I can't get used with this desktop with no taskbar...14:40
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  sure, the windows are just very basic14:41
dr_willislotuspsychje:  you dont need a wm to run those... ;)14:41
lotuspsychjemonkeyDust: ok cool tnx14:41
dr_willisbut its handy14:41
antukinjust need an X session14:41
lotuspsychjelemme try jwm on lubuntu14:41
tesseraktIf I install ubuntu server, will it be easy to install to install a desktop environment later on if I need it? for example if I install the xfce4 package on the ubuntu server later on, will it behave just like xubuntu?14:41
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antukinif you have lubuntu why add more weight?  jwm is just redundant14:42
craigbass1976tesserakt, It should14:43
tesseraktcraigbass1976: good, thanks14:44
sam1967in system monitor i have 9 zombie sh processes . any idea why ?14:44
hw_junkieexit14:44
zixxydouglas, 'sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback' log out, click the Ubuntu icon by the username box and choose it from there.14:47
captainfurioushow can i send mail at the command line with my gmail account14:48
sam1967in system monitor i have 9 zombie sh processes . any idea why ?14:50
lotuspsychjedr_willis: i forgot can jwm be run on ubuntu too instead of unity3D?14:50
lotuspsychjeoops14:51
geirhasam1967: Some process has spawned 9 sh processes, but has not waited for them yet. The processes are dead, they don't use any resources.14:54
igor_hi14:54
lotuspsychjeantukin: would jwm run on ubuntu instead of untiy3D?14:55
sam1967geirha : what could have spawned them ?14:55
geirhasam1967: Check their parent process ids (ppid)14:56
lotuspsychje!info jwm14:56
ubottujwm (source: jwm): very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (precise), package size 108 kB, installed size 270 kB14:56
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geirhasam1967: Just check the system monitor, it doesn't appear to list ppid, but View -> Dependancies list them in a tree view, so you can see which process is parent of those processes14:59
geirhasam1967: *Just checked14:59
pigeonshow to disable case sensitivity of username for pam?14:59
grozavpaulis there a good tutorial about how to create a new X session for each user that connects with VNC?15:00
lotuspsychje!vnc15:00
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX15:00
sysop7Does anyone know if 12.04 supports Thunderbolt with a simple VGA output dongle on a Macbook Pro 2001?15:00
STK74hello15:00
geirhagrozavpaul: I'd consider FreeNX or x2go rather than vnc15:00
ikoniasysop7: I'd put money on "no"15:01
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje  just tried jwm --replace, didn't work15:01
sysop7ikonia: Thanks...but not what I was hoping to hear.15:01
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: jwm on ubuntu doesnt work?15:01
grozavpaulgeirha: thanks, let me take a look15:01
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: screenshots of jwm looks cool, reminds me of enlightment years ago :p15:02
liherHola, mi ordenador se cuelga y se queda bloqueado, alguien conoce algun programa que detecte errores de hardware?15:04
lotuspsychje!es | liher15:04
ubottuliher: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:04
ClientAliveI need to learn something about what jockey-gtk does. If a particular proprietary driver is not showing up in additional drivers, and does not get "activated" through it, does that mean it won't "work"?15:07
dr3mrohello , I am using ubuntu os since april 09 with a fujitsu siemens amilo pi 1505  .. but 2 days a go i have bought a Dell XPS L502X with win7 .. I want to keep windows 7 as it is an original copy and I have paid for it so i don't want to lose it any way .. I have tared my home and my root into two tar.gz archives and i want to migrate my install to the new machine i have the knowledge to untar the archives into sda3 in the new machine but what next ? i don'15:07
dr3mrot want to lose dell recovery partition and i can't do ordinary install via live cd as i am using now mobile broadband with a very low speed and high price :) thanks any way !15:07
bobbyyuI got a 500 Internal Server error when trying to run a Perl script. I want to know where I can find the server error log. I am running Apache HTTPd15:07
lotuspsychjeClientAlive:it means the driver is not installed15:07
MA111Greetings, I'm trying to install Nvidia driver from a CD, I keep getting this error, not matter what I try, I did re-install 12.04 now, just to get a clean start. here's the error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090018/15:08
Zentaurhello15:08
lotuspsychjeMA111:did you try to install nvidia-current?15:08
Zentaurcould anybody recommend me a netbook that works with ubuntu15:09
codingmanZentuar: any i would think15:09
Need2Growzentaur hit Alt-Z to summon the invoker15:09
ClientAlivelotuspsychje: ok, what does one do if the driver refuses to show up in jockey but all the files for it appear in /lib/firmware15:09
lotuspsychjeZentaur: im on aspire ONE with ubuntu precise 64bit running flawsless15:09
ClientAlive?15:09
lotuspsychjeZentaur: you can always try ##hardware channel too15:09
codingmanMA111: install the driver from the website15:10
MA111codingman: same problem15:10
ryant5000is there any way to run linux kernel 3.4 or above in AWS on ubuntu?15:10
lotuspsychje!info nvidia-current | MA11115:10
ubottuMA111: nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 295.40-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 32650 kB, installed size 96032 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; lpia)15:10
MA111lotuspsychje: nvidia current, no, I'm not sure if it matters, but, this is a specialized type of card15:10
LoTryant5000: AWS being Amazon Web Services?15:11
ZentaurI mean almost all have intel gma XXXX and i saw lots of bad comments about it15:11
ryant5000LoT: yep15:11
LoTryant5000: i'd ask Amazon Web Services, they're the ones that govern VM/instance kernels15:11
codingmanMA111: sure you got the right drivers?15:11
lotuspsychjeZentaur: precise will run fine on most new netbooks15:11
Zentauri need 3d acceration just for googleearth or small games15:11
MA111codingman: yes, its the CD that came with the card15:11
MA111Here's the lspci :  VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [Quadro NVS 450] (rev a1)15:11
Zentaurlotuspsychje, wich graphics card has yous aspire one?15:12
codingmanMA111: the error you gave us seems to be a kernel error15:12
ryant5000LoT: ah; i did ask them, and they told me i had to ask the AMI maintainers15:12
LoTryant5000: then you have to ask them how to contact them, the AMI's are the images used on the EC2 instances.15:12
MA111codingman: I see, I'm looking for the best way to install the kernerl-headers and source15:12
lotuspsychjeZentaur: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6250]15:13
LoTryant5000: typically i dont think those images update kernels15:13
ClientAlivewhat does one do if the driver refuses to show up in jockey but all the files for it appear in /lib/firmware ?15:13
codingmanMA111: try the software center15:13
dr3mrohello , I am using ubuntu os since april 09 with a fujitsu siemens amilo pi 1505  .. but 2 days a go i have bought a Dell XPS L502X with win7 .. I want to keep windows 7 as it is an original copy and I have paid for it so i don't want to lose it any way .. I have tared my home and my root into two tar.gz archives and i want to migrate my install to the new machine i have the knowledge to untar the archives into sda3 in the new machine but what next ? i don'15:13
dr3mrot want to lose dell recovery partition and i can't do ordinary install via live cd as i am using now mobile broadband with a very low speed and high price :) thanks any way !15:13
ryant5000LoT: right, i'm using the Canonical AMIs; i'm not totally clear on how kernel deployment happens15:13
codingmanMA111: or synaptics15:13
ryant5000LoT: it looks like there's a way using pv-grub to change the kernel at boot time15:14
MA111codingman: I'm looking for synaptics in apt, but cannot find the package manager15:14
lotuspsychjeZentaur: if you install an ssd hd inside the netbook, it will be even faster15:14
codingmanMA111: open the software center15:15
MA111codingman: OK15:15
codingmansynaptics is not installed originally15:15
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ubottuio3: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead. See also « /msg ubottu Guidelines »15:15
Zentauris it a new aspire one? I need a netbook to travel but i want only ubuntu on it :)15:16
BluesKajMA111, synaptic can be installed from the terminal , sudo apt-get install synaptic15:16
MA111BluesKaj: I'm installing it now15:16
lotuspsychjeZentaur: yes its few months old mate, 2gig ram 500g hd, damn fast on ubuntu15:16
antonisHello I have a problem.. I installed a compiled kernel in ubuntu 12.04 (exton I think) but I decided to remove it and now I am not able to start x15:16
MA111codingman: should I just look for "Kernel" once synaptic is installed ?15:16
antonisIt because of my graphics card.. There are no drivers and I don't know what to do :\15:17
codingmanMA111:kernel-source15:17
codingmani guess15:17
codingmanMA111: also do the upgrade and update process15:17
sam1967geirha : how do i find the ppid ?15:17
MA111codingman: yes, did that first thing15:18
codingmanoh ok15:19
Zentaurmm interesting... and the battery life? how many cells?15:19
jiffe98I'm trying to install ubuntu on a supermicro raid device which I think uses software raid, when I go through the ubuntu 12.04 install I choose guided - use entire disk, but then it tries to setup a grub boot loader on /dev/mapper and fails to do so15:19
{g}I want to clone my ubuntu partition so i have one running system in the old state and one i can play around with. so i can dual boot into both. is it a good idea to just create a partition of the sames size and then do dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda2?15:20
lotuspsychjeZentaur: ubuntu says 5 hours remaining battery, just 1 cell came by default15:20
* Need2Grow waves..15:20
Need2Growubuntu is zulu15:21
Dr_Willis{g}:  the use of UUIDs may mess things up. You could clone the partion to a file and play with it in virtualbox perhaps.15:21
codingmanlotusspychje: WOW! i cell...15:21
{g}Dr_Willis: i would like to dual boot the both partitions. yeah, uuids might mess it up. i always hated uuids.15:21
Dr_Willis{g}:  untill youve spent several hrs fighting around issues that UUIDs fix....15:22
antonisI did install a compiled kernel (the latest) and downloaded a script from NVIDIA for the latest nvidia drivers. I uninstalled the kernel and reversed back to generick and also removed (or I believe I did) the drivers I downloaded from NVIDIA but now I am not able to start x... I am currently in console mode with irssi. when I try startx it tells me that I have different kernel and driver versions of nvidia or something like that. If any15:22
lotuspsychjecodingman: i mean 1 battery came along15:22
{g}Dr_Willis: for example what?15:22
MA111OK. so after installing the kernel-source pacake, via syaptic, still ,sadly, the same error15:22
Dr_Willis!uuid15:23
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)15:23
MA111*synaptic15:23
antoniswhen I try startx it says "api mismatch: the nvidia kernel module has version 295.40 but this nvidia driver component has version 295.49."15:23
lotuspsychjeZentaur: the only thing i had to do was set bios to 'network boot:ON' to prevent freezing ubuntu (win7 default Os)15:25
MA111Could this be the probelm ?  "source -> /build/buildd/linux-3.2.0" this link under "/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic" points to a location that does not exisit (the color of the link is red)15:26
gansterhi all15:28
Zentaurand what would you say about the intel gma xxxxxx? do you think i could get to have 3d acceleration?15:28
Zentauri read that the gma 3600 has no support for linux15:29
ClientAliveI have a few very important questions and I pray that someone will take notice15:29
ClientAlivewhat would you do if you spent 3 full days and nights, doing nothing else but trying to get your wireless card working in ubuntu? What would you do if you spent 3 full days and nights looking for help on the issue and not finding it? what would you do? what would you do when your computer is unuseable for 3 days and you don't want to suffer windows again? I need to know.15:29
ClientAliveI cant-take-it-any-longer15:30
Dr_WillisClientAlive:  get a better brand card would be my first option.15:30
ClientAliveno one seems to give a shit (gonna kick me off the channel for saying "shit"? Gonna do that to me too?)15:30
Dr_WillisIf you want support getting the card working. you need to state so. not ramble on.15:31
ClientAlivethe card works I have NO $ No $. I need this computer - I have to have it working I take online college courses15:31
meowsusI'm running Lubuntu 11.10. When I'm listening to MP3s out of my speakers, everything sounds fine. If I plug my headphones into the back audio connection, everything is fine. When I plug my headphones into the front audio panel everything is insanely garbled. This is only for any compressed audio (mp3, youtube, etc) but Wavs and Flac play fine. Does anyone know how I can start to troubleshoot this?15:31
ClientAliveI have been15:31
gansterDr_Willis,  howcan i join the xchat in other language like francais,espaniola,deutch,swahili,zulu,15:31
ClientAlivefor three dayssssss15:31
ClientAlivethree daysssssw15:31
Dr_WillisYou c asked 'what would you do'......15:31
ClientAlive5 installs15:31
IdleOneClientAlive: Calm yourself please15:32
ClientAlivescroll up15:32
Dr_Willisganster:  each ubuntu channel has a #ubuntu-XX where xx - some code for each language.15:32
Dr_Willis!es15:32
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:32
lotuspsychjeZentaur: no intel gma here15:32
ClientAliveI'm gonna staep away for a moment15:32
Dr_Willisganster:  fr is french, not sure about others.15:32
BronzeClientAlive: there are many channels that have clean language policies and many that do not. There nothing wrong with them kicking you for abusing language in a channel with a clean language policy15:32
ClientAliveI'm sorry but this is completely ludacris15:32
zixxyganster, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList15:32
Dr_WillisClientAlive:  yes.. you are being Ludacris.15:32
ClientAlivethanks Dr. very helpful - now try putting yourself in my shoes15:33
IdleOneDr_Willis: No need to make it worse. let him step away and collect himself.15:33
IdleOneClientAlive: Please drop it. take a break and come back when things are clearer :)15:33
ClientAliveI have appologized and I was and am sincere about that. I'll take a break and come back but I desparetely need someone to help me with my issue.15:34
BronzeClientAlive "Ludicrous" is the word that means silly. what you were using was the name of a rap artist15:34
Dr_WillisBronze:  ;P15:35
lotuspsychjeisnt there like an ubuntu community creating innovations for society?15:35
BronzeClientAlive: You cant get your wifi card to work?15:36
gansterzixxy, i have post my problem in mother language but non of em replies15:36
BronzeClientAlive: Are you getting any error messages?15:36
zixxyganster, I was giving you a handy list. I can't make people be there. ;)15:37
BronzeClientAlive: what is the make and model of your card?15:37
ClientAliveBronze: lol. Thank you man. Thanks15:37
wols_ganster: then pose your problem here as good as you can15:37
BronzeClientAlive: have you looked up the card in google to see if it is on any of the linux supported  hardware lists?15:38
sam1967how do i find the ppid of a process ?15:38
ikoniaps15:38
ikoniasam1967: ps will show it15:38
bazhangsam1967, check top15:38
kurtwp_ps -ef | grep <process name>15:38
ikoniaanother good idea15:38
gansterwols_, i don know how to post it in english15:38
ikoniaor top15:38
lotuspsychje!info htop | sam196715:38
ubottusam1967: htop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (precise), package size 64 kB, installed size 180 kB15:38
bazhangClientAlive, is this  usb or pci wireless device15:38
ClientAliveBronze: I can't get it to work. There's a lot to this story but I won't bother you to try to explain it all here. Suffice it to say I have done quite a bit of troubleshooting and believe I have narrowed things down. I'm on the last leg of the race and not sure how to get past this last hurdle.15:39
ikoniaClientAlive: do you want your wifi card to work yes/no ?15:39
lotuspsychjelol15:39
gansterwols_, my English not  well understood if i post it over here15:39
bazhangClientAlive, lsusb for usb, lspci for pci to paste.ubuntu.com if you want actual help15:39
BronzeWe really need a web site that walks folks through these steps so that they get the basic help and info before they ask people for help. I wish I knew how to make it. I can make forms, but I don't know how to automate finding the info for them.15:39
wols_ganster: you can only try. your choice if you and to try for an answer15:39
ClientAliveI'm typing as fast as I can guys15:39
lotuspsychjeganster:an english error from /var/log could also help pastebin here15:40
ikoniaBronze: there are many websites that explain how to get help - however responding to peopels questions with actual answers rather than a pointless story is the first step15:40
gansterlotuspsychje, is that a commmand  /var/log15:40
Bronzeikonia: We need a !venting command for ubottu  :-)15:40
oCeanBronze: we need less offtopic comments in this channel15:41
lotuspsychjeganster: no they are logs of your ubuntu system, logging interesting stuff15:41
lotuspsychje!logs15:41
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/15:41
gansterno such a directory lotuspsychje15:42
ClientAliveI have the broadcom card in this lappy. It's the 4318 (rev 02). I install b43-firmware-installer (which installs b43-fwcutter as a dependency). Jockey (additional drivers) refuses to pick it up but I can see all the files unpacked in /lib/firmware. As far as I can tell the firmware installs but making an actual connection does not happen. My landlord's lappy connects to my same wireless connection on the router and his does fine.15:42
* Bronze watches oCean quickly give people the help they need. 15:42
wols_ganster: state your problem as best as you can. we will ask if we don't understand something15:42
ikoniaClientAlive: there is more to it than just firmware15:42
gansterfromm the terminal it tell me that  lotuspsychje15:42
lotuspsychjeganster: cd /var/log/15:42
ikoniaClientAlive: is the kernel module loaded sucessfully15:42
lotuspsychjeganster: try reading syslog.115:42
ClientAliveIkonia: there is? You mean like network-manager?15:43
ikoniaClientAlive: doest the card report available wireless etentions15:43
ikoniaClientAlive: no15:43
ikoniaextensions (I meant to type)15:43
jiffe98I'm trying to install ubuntu on a supermicro raid device which I think uses software raid, when I go through the ubuntu 12.04 install I choose guided - use entire disk, but then it tries to setup a grub boot loader on /dev/mapper and fails to do so15:43
gansterlotuspsychje, :/var/log$15:43
wols_jiffe98: keep /boot on a non RAID device15:43
k1lganster: where are you from? isnt there a channel for your mother-language?  else you could describe your problem here15:43
ClientAliveoh, no, see those things you mention are the things I don't know how to interpret. I can run the commands to list them, I know that, but not what it means when I see it.15:43
jiffe98wols_: do I need to set that up manually if I choose guided - use entire disk ?15:44
ikoniaClientAlive: right, so thats where you work with someone to walk through it15:44
ikoniaClientAlive: or read some of the documentation eg:15:44
ikonia!bcm | ClientAlive15:44
ubottuClientAlive: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx15:44
ikonia!broadcom | ClientAlive15:44
ikonia!wireless | ClientAlive15:44
ubottuClientAlive: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:44
jiffe98wols_: also I don't have any disks that aren't in raid15:44
gansterk1l, am fro brazil15:44
wols_jiffe98: you can make them15:45
lotuspsychje!fakeraid15:45
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto15:45
wols_lotuspsychje: he shouldn't use fakeraid in the first place15:45
ClientAliveikonia: I was running fedora 16 up until 3 days ago (when I decided to come back to ubuntu) It was working fine with wireless and on the same connection to the router/ same wireless connection. I have, in the past, run ubuntu 10.10, 10.04 (starting with alpha) successfully with the wireless.15:45
ikoniaClientAlive: that has nothing to do with any of the comments I've just said15:46
lotuspsychjelol15:46
ikoniaClientAlive: the sooner you read what people say to you and respond to the question/comment they ask rather than a story which has nothing to do with it, the quicker you'll move forward15:46
wols_ClientAlive: the links ikonia gave you guide you through the installation. if you have problems at any step, you can ask about them here, e.g. when there is some output or result of your action which isn't like it is in the howto15:46
k1lganster: you have tried #ubuntu-br for getting help?15:47
FanshaweHello everyone. I'm in desperate need of help, on the verge of bricking this current install of Ubuntu, apparently. I can't write to var/cache, and can't find anyway to clear enough space on my filesystem to do -anything-.15:47
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ClientAliveikonia: thank you for your comments. If the documentation goes into much more detail than just steps to install then it would help but so far that is all i've seen.15:47
randomDudeso i found out today that ubuntu desktop computers can be made to sleep on timeout period after the screen locks by using dconf-editor15:47
ikoniaClientAlive: if you follow the steps to install and verify they work fine, you should be fine, if it still doesn't work you can ask specific questions about the parts not working15:47
ClientAlivewols: I know the steps by heart. I've been doing them repeatedly so that second thing you say is where I'm at now.15:48
wols_Fanshawe: with what process do you want to write to /var/cache and why? and how much free space do you have?15:48
ikoniaFanshawe: why can't you write to /var/cache, out of disk space or permissions15:48
ikoniaClientAlive: ok, so I'll ask again15:48
ikoniaClientAlive: 1.) is the kernel module loaded15:48
codingman!details|randomDude15:48
ubotturandomDude: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:48
ikoniaClientAlive: 2.) is the card reporting active wireless extensions when queried ?15:48
ClientAliveI described the situation earlier. There is no shorter way to describe it. That's what is going on.15:48
Fanshaweikonia: out of disk space15:48
ikoniaClientAlive: I'm not asking you to describe the situation, I'm asking you specific questions.15:48
randomDudecodingman: while i apreciate your desire to help, it is a bit misguided.15:48
ikoniaFanshawe: do you know where you disk space is being used up ?15:49
Fanshawewols: my filesystem is full to the point where I literally can't run any program15:49
ClientAliveyes15:49
codingmanrandomDude: what is your problem15:49
ikoniaFanshawe: (can you pastebin the output of df -h please)15:49
codingman?15:49
ikoniaClientAlive: yes to what ?15:49
k1lganster: since you speak portuguese you could try the portuguese channel too: #ubuntu-pt15:49
ClientAliveI mean yes I understand but I don't know how to find out what you asked me15:49
randomDudecodingman: for a start you would do well to differentiate between a statement and a question.15:49
ClientAliveis it with iwconfig?15:49
FanshaweI'd love to pastebin it, but my browser isn't running.15:49
ikoniaClientAlive: right, so that's what you say "how do I find that out" rather than just telling stories15:49
ikoniaClientAlive: iwconfig should show the card and list it as supporting wireless extensions, yes15:50
ClientAliveok, I'm sorry not so good communicator15:50
codingmanrandomDude: please state your question, not the rhetorical one.15:50
wols_Fanshawe: go into /var/log and "rm *.gz" (as root). deletes all old logs15:50
randomDudecodingman: ok, why are you assuming i have a question?15:50
wols_Fanshawe: then check "df" again to see if you have a few bytes free now15:50
CalliopeHow do I auto mount an NVIDIA RAID-1 device on my Ubuntu System?15:51
Fanshawewols_: that's a good idea, but I'd need to be talked through exactly how to do that?15:51
bazhangrandomDude, this is a support channel only. chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic15:51
lotuspsychjewols_:isnt there a gui package to delete old stuff too?15:51
codingmanrandomDude: if you do not have a question or problem, please do not flood such a buzy forums15:51
wols_lotuspsychje: no clue15:51
ikoniarandomDude: if you want to discuss some ubuntu technical info you can try #ubuntu-discuss15:51
codingman*chat15:51
PyroPeterI'm using rxvt-unicode-256color on my desktop pc and want to enter german umlauts into a bash running on a Ubuntu 12.04 server (via ssh). bash seems to receive a different key than the one I'm pressing (ü) and displays the "(arg: 0)" prompt15:51
wols_Fanshawe: cd /var/log; sudo rm *.gz15:51
ClientAliveI see stuff but not sure what it means. I'm installing pastebinit so I can paste it15:52
ikoniawols_: clean /var/apt/cache ?15:52
ikonia(he can always re-cache later)15:52
ikoniathat should get a chunk of space back to at least open a browser15:52
Fanshaweokay, done15:52
wols_Fanshawe: sudo apt-get clean15:52
lotuspsychjecleaning out firefox cache can do miracles too15:53
ikoniawols_: better/tidier, nice15:53
wols_lotuspsychje: by default, I think 50MB or so. not worth it :)15:53
Fanshawewols_: sudo apt-get clean was the first thing I tried15:53
CalliopeHow do I auto mount an NVIDIA RAID-1 device on my Ubuntu System?15:53
ElethInstalled Ubuntu Precise in a chroot via debootstrap. Trying to boot it via PXE, kernel and initrd seem fine. It's hanging somewhere in upstart. Is there a way to debug upstart beyond --verbose on the kernel command line15:53
Fanshaweit simply doesn't seem to work, I assume I have no permissions?15:53
wols_Fanshawe: when you run "df -h" now, how much free space is shown?15:53
ikonia!fakeraid | Calliope15:53
ubottuCalliope: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto15:53
lotuspsychjewols_depends what you do with firefox15:53
wols_Fanshawe: sudo. then you have the permissions for both, log deletion and apt-get clean15:54
Fanshaweon sda1, where Ubuntu is kept, 100% in use15:54
CalliopeThank you.  Bye15:54
lotuspsychjeFanshawe: do you use newgroups or something too?15:54
ClientAlivethis paste does not show all the listings for some reason. there is "lo no wireless extensions" and there is "eth0 no wireless extensions" then there is this what came on the paste:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090086/15:54
Fanshawenewsgroups?15:54
lotuspsychjeFanshawe: cleaning out newsgroups headers can clean out a system aswell15:55
ikoniaClientAlive: well, the good news is that wlan0 is showing as wireless enabled15:55
ikoniaClientAlive: suggesting your card is available as a device for use15:55
wols_Fanshawe: you could od a localepurge (that deletes program messages in other languages you don't understand anyways, e.g. chinese or so). but localepurge is a package15:55
ikoniaClientAlive: which also suggests the kernel module is loaded, however you should check which kernel module is loaded for it15:55
Fanshawethe exact directory taking up the most space right now is var/lib/apt-xapian-index15:55
ikoniathat seems odd15:55
ClientAliveok15:56
ikoniathe idex is filling up the disk15:56
ikoniaindex15:56
wols_Fanshawe: that#s a search engine. do you need that?15:56
Fanshaweas in the entirety of var/lib is taking up the majority of space15:56
Fanshaweno, I'll delete anything just to get the gears turning again15:56
wols_Fanshawe: what do you use that search engine for?15:56
wols_Fanshawe: and the question is not just what to delete but to make sure this situation doesn't happen again15:57
Fanshaweif I'm being honest? I have no idea what search engine that could be. I recently tried to download something via 'get_iplayer'? That's when this started.15:57
wols_Fanshawe: if we did it the first way, we simply told you "reinstall ubuntu" :)15:57
wols_Fanshawe: if you don't know I'd delete the big files inside. especially when they are very big which they have no reason to be (your /var/www should be even bigger then than xapian)15:58
ClientAliveresults of "dmesg | grep b43 | pastebinit" and "lsmod | grep b43 | pastebinit" respectively: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090093/   and   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090094/15:58
lotuspsychjeFanshawe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161763915:59
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FanshaweI can't run my browser at the moment15:59
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/59546/what-kind-of-harm-there-is-from-removing-purging-package-apt-xapian-index15:59
ClientAlivein that first paste (the one for dmesg) the second line contains "(core revision 9)" but my card is "(rev 02)"16:00
ClientAliveis that a problem?16:00
FanshaweI can't even run synaptic at the moment, there's no space to copy my authorisation file.16:01
FanshaweAs in, my admin programs are locked.16:01
Dr_Willistime to resort to the console and the cli tools perhaps.16:02
ClientAliveikonia: results of "dmesg | grep b43 | pastebinit" and "lsmod | grep b43 | pastebinit" respectively: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090093/   and   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090094/16:02
TuxyThePenguinTuxy Is Ready for support16:03
Fanshawewell, I tried to delete the files in apt-xapian-index16:03
wols_Fanshawe: go to a console and run everything as root: root still has some diskspace to use16:03
wols_Fanshawe: and apt-get purge you can only run as root anyways16:03
TuxyThePenguinFanshawe TuxyThePenguin is here to help aswell16:04
wols_Fanshawe: apt-get purge apt-xapian-index16:04
FanshaweAlright, trying your suggestions16:05
FanshaweAh! It worked!16:05
MadsRCCould somebody help me with apache2 on a ubuntu 12.04 server? I want the domain name net42.no-ip.org to display one of my virtual hosts in apache, and I've pointed the domain name to my IP, and opened port 80. But If I add the line " ServerName net42.no-ip.org " to the host file in my apache site, and restart the apache service I get the "Could not determine the FQDN, using localhost instead" and I can't reach the page from the URL16:05
Fanshawenow if I can run sudo apt-get clean I may be where I started16:05
Fanshawewell I'm actually free to run programs again, which is nice, and I now have access to synaptic16:07
Fanshawethank you for your help, all16:07
TuxyThePenguincan anyone help me reconfigure BURG bootloader in comandline16:07
FanshaweI'm open to any further suggestions to stop this weirdness happening again, though16:07
wols_MadsRC: you must make sure that domainname also shows up in your resolver, eg. put it in /etc/hosts16:08
wols_MadsRC: but the better solution is to use a virtual host which you set up in /etc/apache2/sites-available/16:08
wols_Fanshawe: uninstall xapian16:08
MadsRCI've got a virtual host set up in the sites-available folder16:08
wols_!pm TuxyThePenguin16:08
MadsRCand configured the site file there with the ServerName variable16:09
lajoswardHello16:09
wols_TuxyThePenguin: ask in the channel if you have a ubuntu problem16:09
ClientAlivesomeone was helping me a minute ago but I don't know if they had to leave Is there someone?16:09
TuxyThePenguinClientAlive what is your problem16:09
ClientAlivebroadcom wireless16:10
FanshaweHow do I remove xapian if it's connected to the software center and such?16:10
ClientAliveI don't know how to interpret the output of some commands and it isn't going according to online instructions16:10
L3topClientAlive: I assume you are following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx16:12
malahello16:14
malai'm trying to use selinux at ubuntu16:15
ClientAliveL3top: I am here but someone chatted with me in a pm window/thingy16:15
malacan someone help?16:15
ClientAliveby now I know the steps by heart (trust me)16:15
melkorNew dell with a perc card, ubuntu finds the hard drives. After I remove the card ubuntu doesn't find the sata drives.16:15
malaanyone know selinux here?16:16
Dr_Willis'perc card' ?16:16
bazhangmala, whats the exact question about selinux16:17
L3topThis is why pm solutions arent advised. I have no idea what you guys have done already.16:17
L3topDr_Willis: it is a HW RAID card16:17
LordOfTimeL3top: and this is why !privmsg exists :p16:17
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genii-aroundmelkor: Probably because that card is to set up the hardware raid and the drives get re-ordered when you remove it ( or the raid array dissolves )16:17
ubernewbwhat would be the easiest way to move a ubuntu install to another disk? would rsync, boot rescue cd, chroot, reinstall grub work?16:17
bazhang!selinux | mala16:17
ubottumala: SELinux is available on Ubuntu, but not officially supported. Ubuntu uses another security framework by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor16:17
geirhasam1967: Sorry, was away. Did you figure it out? I tried to explain how to find it in the system monitor earlier.16:18
Dr_Willisubernewb:  you can  clone one hd to another with dd. or other tools16:18
genii-aroundmelkor: Is there some reason you are removing the PERC controller?16:18
ubernewbDr_Willis, but has different sizes and most of the HDD is free, so i thought rsync would do, too16:18
Dr_Willisubernewb:  i use gparted to resize, or repartion the unallocated space afterwards16:19
Dr_Willisubernewb:  clonezilla may be a better tool for your needs16:19
ubernewbDr_Willis, good idea16:19
ubernewbDr_Willis, clonezilla sounds good, never tested it but will give it a try16:19
malaubottu: do you prefer apparmor or selinux?16:20
ubottumala: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:20
bazhangmala, did you read the apparmor link from the bot?16:20
xubuntu_how do i remove BURG anyone16:20
bazhangxubuntu_, how was it installed16:20
xubuntu_via the terminal16:21
bazhang!info burg | xubuntu_16:21
ubottuxubuntu_: Package burg does not exist in precise16:21
Dr_Willisxubuntu_:  how did you install burg?16:21
Dr_Willisburg replaces grub i belive.. so reinstall grub.16:21
bazhangxubuntu_, its not in the repos, so how exactly did you do that16:21
xubuntu_Dr_Willis how?16:21
Dr_Willisxubuntu_:  via the package manager tools16:22
Dr_Willissudo apt-get install grub  (or grub-pc)16:22
ubernewbDr_Willis, thank you, will go and try now16:22
xubuntu_Dr_willis wil give a go\16:22
Dr_WillisId hope 'install burg guide' you followed xubuntu_  have info on how to get back to 'normal'16:23
malabazhang: no , i will read now16:23
malabazhang: thanks16:23
FanshaweHello again everyone. I'm afraid I've still only got a worrying ~30mb free, but it is enough to run most of what I want. Except Firefox now isn't working. I'm getting an 'already running' error, despite finding nothing in the processes and restarting my computer. How do I get Firefox running again?16:23
FanshaweEven removing and reinstalling the package didn't seem to work.16:23
Dr_Willisremoveing/reinstalling a package is sort of a 'windows mindset'16:24
Dr_WillisUnless you messed with the firefox system files.16:24
dewwmight be a lock file somewhere16:24
FanshaweIf by 'messed with' you mean 'desperately deleted trying to get some space' then... yeah. (Oops).16:25
Dr_WillisAmazing how browsers always have to run in such a  complex way that they need lock files and other things. ;)16:25
Dr_WillisFanshawe:  hard telling whats going on if you have just been deleting system files.16:25
DWSRAnyone that can help me with installing FGLRX? I tried using the `Additional Drivers` applet and it just spits out an error that I can make heads or tails of. I can pastebin /var/log/jockey.log16:25
xubuntu_how do i remove a package?16:25
taime1i have a laptop that i installed 11.04 on. to boot the live usb, i had to use the nouveau.modeset=0 option. However, now that the system is installed (and using grub 1.99), the nouveau.modeset=0 option simply causes this error: unexpected exit with status 0x0009. Every websitei read says that this option should defeat that very error message, so why does it invoke it on my system?16:25
Dr_Willisxubuntu_:  package manager tools. such as synaptic or  software center, or sudo apt-get remove packagename16:26
ClientAlivexubuntu: sudo apt-get remove <package name>16:26
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ClientAlivethat's the way to do it on the command line16:26
melkorIt appeas that libre office has a new release, is there a ppa so that I can have the latest released version?16:26
Dr_Willis!ppa16:26
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge16:26
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LordOfTimeDr_Willis: evil ninja :/16:26
ClientAliveoh, sorry Dr_Willis I didn't see you were helping him. My bad.16:27
Dr_Willisits sort of scary when peopel are messing with BURG and dont understand the basics of the package manager system. :)16:28
GeForce88ubuntu 12.04 - i'm trying to triple boot my system ( which i used to do before a fresh install of 7) now grub only detects ubuntu and 7. it does not see the xp install(which is on the same physical disk as ubuntu) . if i remove the windows 7 drive, and re run update-grub the cfg still doesn't detect the xp install, and chooses 7, in which case with that drive unhook, fails.. i need to manually edit the grub bootloader maybe to force it to detect16:28
GeForce88 xp ?16:28
Dr_WillisGeForce88:  you could make a custom entry for the xp install and put it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom16:28
ClientAliveagain, someone was helping me but I'm not sure where they went. Anyone else (I need to get this working like I need to breath).16:29
Fanshawewell, it took a bit of silliness, but a total deletion of the directory and a reinstall has it running again, albeit from its right-out-of-the-box state16:29
FanshaweThank you all again for your help16:29
Dr_Willisdeletion of wht directory?16:30
Fanshawe.mozilla in my home directory16:30
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ClientAliveapparently they left in the middle (the person's name is no longer listed as being logged on).16:30
ClientAliveI guess people think it's funny. I don't know anymore.16:31
Dr_Willishelpers have real lifes. so often they have to leave.16:31
LordOfTime^16:31
DWSRClientAlive: Additionally, people have internet or power failures. Most likely they didn´t leave through any malicious intent, though if you are behaving like this, perhaps they simply stopped wanting to help you16:32
ClientAliveyes but he never said a word and I keep investing time to explain the same thing over and over and not getting ahead with the computer problem16:32
ClientAliveDWSR: What am I supposed to do?16:33
DWSRIf you need support on a deadline, get commercial support from Canonnical.16:33
Dr_Willisits also possible ClientAlive  that if you connected via wired network and did a 'sudo apt-get update''sudo apt-get upgrade' that there may be some fixed packages/kernel that solve the issue IF its a known bug. You mentioned the card worked in earlier releases. but not the latest one.16:33
an0nIn a compaq notebook with 1 gb of ram and a radeon xpress 200m which would be more appropriate to install? Windows xp dual boot with slackware (or freeBSD) or install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS around hd?16:33
Dr_Willisan0n:  totally depends on the task you want to do. since BSD is not Linux.16:34
pseudosudoHi anyone available here?16:34
grozavpaulgeirha: thanks, NXServer works now16:34
Dr_Willis200m is a very low end video card.  so Lubuntu May give better preformacen an0n16:35
ClientAliveDr_Willis: ok. I did that before but never know. Perhaps something just came down the pipe.16:35
justin_pseudosudo, hi16:35
melkorWhere can I edit my software sources?16:35
an0nDr_Willis: programming16:35
pseudosudohey justin_, I have a question about a situation i'm in16:35
IdleOnemelkor: /etc/apt/sources.list16:35
xanguamelkor: open Software Center, Edit, Sources16:35
IdleOnepseudosudo: just ask it.16:36
melkorThanks I would prefer not to edit /etc/apt/sources manually.16:36
ClientAlivemaybe it's just a situation where there is nothing that can be done. That would suck really bad but I suppose it's possible.16:39
pseudosudoI have a ubuntu server and I installed many applications, put many scripts on it, and had a lot of files on it. Unfortunately, my system died and it won't boot up. The motherboard died. My question is.... Is it possible to recover my ubuntu installation and everything on it onto a new system ?? Or is there a way to get a list of all the applications I've installed and retrieve all the16:40
pseudosudoscripts and files i had on it16:40
melkorpseudosudo: if the hard drive is ok, there is a good chance another system could boot from it.16:42
minihydrahow come "w" command does not show user logged in wia display manager?16:42
melkorpseudosudo: it also depends on how much different the hardware is.16:42
pseudosudomelkor, the ubuntu system is on an old p4..... so16:42
pseudosudomelkor, whatever hardware i put the harddrives on will be very differnt16:43
pseudosudoWhat's the best way to go about recovering my ubuntu installation? Such as retrieving all the applications and settings, files, scripts, startup/init settings, etc?16:43
alexThunderI have a new notebook with integrated intel graphics (ivy bridge) and a radeon 7970m (apparently a muxless system), but when I try to setup flgrx, amdconfig tells me "No supported adapters detected" :/16:44
vincypa!hello16:46
melkoralexThunder: if you do not find help here you can also check #ati16:46
alexThunderok, thanks16:46
L3topalexThunder: please give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA16:47
L3toppseudosudo: recover or duplicate?16:48
pseudosudorecover16:48
pseudosudomy system's motherboard died, and it's too old to be replaced16:48
pseudosudoif I plug in the hard drives into a new system, I doubt things will work properly since all my other systems are generations newer.16:49
melkorpseudosudo: you should be able to access the harddrive with your new system, but not boot from it.16:49
alexThunderL3top: http://paste.kde.org/51723216:49
Dr_Willispseudosudo:  theres external usb enclosures that are handy for accessing old hard drives.16:50
L3topChances are it will just come alive plugging into a new board... and work will be needed to get it up to speed w/regard to video/networking. I would just clone the drive off, and plug n pray. I swap experimental installs around from system to system all the time from varying decades. Moving up to newer is much cleaner than going backwards.16:51
L3topalexThunder: update-pciids   and do it again please16:51
pseudosudoL3top, that is good news but I can't help but think about all the left over drivers/files that will be spread across the OS from the old hardware16:52
alexThunderL3top: http://paste.kde.org/51723816:52
L3toppseudosudo: correct. You will need to remove the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules etc...16:52
* genii-around makes a note about update-pciids next to his notes about update-usbids16:53
L3toppseudosudo: there is no clean way to do this without having the system available to make a remaster cd or something... that I know of.16:53
biebI need to create 10 users on ubuntu 12.04 for lab environment, the will be lab1, lab2, etc, they all need the exact same desktop when they login, what is the fastest way to accomplish this?16:53
L3topok alexThunder. Are you using vga-switcheroo or anything?16:53
alexThunderno16:54
alexThundervga switcheroo only works with the open source drivers, doesn't it?16:54
L3topcorrect... that was why I asked :P16:54
alexThunder:)16:55
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alexThunderafaik, radeon_si doesn't even support 7xxx series yet16:55
L3topalexThunder: I believe that what is happening is that it is using/seeing the first GPU, the intel... which is why it does not believe that there is any proprietary to get.  one more time, lets lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A216:56
* L3top would consider blacklisting the intel if all you want is the ati16:56
alexThunderhttp://paste.kde.org/51724416:57
alexThunderok, i'll try that16:57
escapedhello, does somebody if its possible to setup 2 external monitors (displayport, dvi) and sound (hdmi) all together using a nvidia gts 450?16:57
L3topWell... I dunno that it is gonna be that easy alexThunder.16:57
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L3topalexThunder: the way it works is that the ati gpu runs through the intel head... I dunno... I just havent seen enough of these to get any good experiments done.16:58
L3topOh... neat... it's a clevo... they used to make the alienware stuff.16:59
qubit[01]join #clojure16:59
alexThundernow that you mention it, yeah - i think i've read that the readeon is only for rendering, not for displaying16:59
alexThunderand yes, its a clevo (Schenker XMG P702), which is a clevo p170em afaik17:00
L3topwell alex, you can sudo apt-get install fglrx... I think you will have to do some xorg.conf trickery to get it working right.17:00
alexThunderright now i got the official amd fglrx installed (12-6)17:01
alexThunderbut apparently only software rendering is working17:01
* L3top avoids anything over 12-4 like the plague because it dropped support for most stuff on the planet... but for you will work.17:02
L3topif you look at your last pastebin... it isn't using the fglrx... so if you installed it... you are, like I said, most likely going to have to force its use with some xorg.conf magic.17:02
alexThunderhm, do you know any good tutorials about what i could try? it's been some time since i last touched xorg.conf17:04
L3topI could try and walk you through it. Chances are you do not even have one right now. check ls /etc/X11/x*17:04
alexThunderhttp://paste.kde.org/51725017:05
drag0niushow do i set grub to remember selection with 12.04?17:06
drag0niusstartup manager isnt here anymore17:06
Dr_Willisdrag0nius:  i belive theres a section on that in the grub2 forum thread/docs/wiki page.17:06
Dr_Willis!grub217:06
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)17:06
L3topThat isn't the whole thing is it alexThunder?17:06
alexThunderas far as i can believe cat, it is17:06
Dr_Willisdrag0nius:  i think theres a entry in /etc/default/grub  that enables the  'rember last selection'.17:07
L3topwow... ok alexThunder mv that and run ati-configure --initial... I believe... let me check that.17:07
drag0niusi set it17:07
drag0niusdidnt help17:07
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KatronixHello all, if you accidentally run do-release-upgrade -d is it possible to downgrade that to the latest stable version?17:08
genii-around!downgrade17:08
ubottuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.17:08
Dr_Willisdrag0nius:  you ran sudo update-grub afterwards?17:08
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alexThunderL3top: amdconfig (or aticonfig) tells me "No supported adapters detected"17:08
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/148662/how-to-get-grub2-to-remember-last-choice17:09
drag0niusohh theres second option17:09
pybirutest17:10
Dr_Willis2 options.. ;) and a command that lets you change the saved one it seems drag0nius17:10
* L3top is thinking alexThunder.17:10
drag0niusi set only simple default option17:10
Dr_Willisdrag0nius:  not sure if the # starts at 0 or 1 for the first entry17:10
drag0niusthink i found some manager for grub217:11
Dr_Willisaskubuntu.com lens for unity - so handy :)17:11
drag0niusi didnt edit it with text editor for sure on stationary comp17:11
Dr_Willisi never use anything else than a text editor. ;)17:11
L3topalexThunder: lets do it the old fashioned way. Kill X and run Xorg -configure17:13
L3topalexThunder: what version of buntu are you using?17:13
alexThunder12.0417:14
alexThunderis there a gracefull way to kill it?17:15
* L3top would probably blacklist the intel driver... see if I could get aticonfig to generate one, and merge the two xorg.confs just stuffing the ati rendering specific stuff into the one generated by xorg.conf, being careful to leave the BusIDs alone17:15
KatronixHello all, if you accidentally run do-release-upgrade -d is it possible to downgrade that to the latest stable version?17:15
beandogalexThunder: pkill X17:15
L3topsudo service lightdm stop   alexThunder17:15
Daxter!downgrade17:15
ubottuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.17:15
beandogoh, n/m17:16
Daxter!downgrade | Katronix17:16
ubottuKatronix: please see above17:16
pseudosudoL3top, where can I find applications i've installed? What folder are applications usually in?17:16
Katronixok, well hopefully the developmental version is pretty stable17:16
FanshaweHell again. I'm trying to clear out /var/lib/dpkg/info, but I'm getting back an error, 'argument list too long'.17:17
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L3topoh... it really depends pseudosudo. /bin /usr/share/bin I mean... they are kind of all over... and tend to put pieces of themselves all over. You can see what I mean by typing dpkg -S <package name> on whatever you are on.17:17
Fanshaweor rather, 'sudo: unable to execute /usr/bin/apt-get: Argument list too long'17:17
L3topFanshawe: can you start over and tell us what exactly you are trying to do and why?17:18
pseudosudoThanks for your help L3top17:18
FanshaweSure, yes. Earlier I was struggling with space on my filesystem. Originally there was a problem with a 'xapian' directory eating too much memory.17:19
L3topnp pseudosudo... you know... what you MIGHT try doing... is mounting the drive, binding /dev none mounting a few other drives, chroot into it, and installing remastersys... then creating a liveCD from that install, which may just install your exact system onto a new environment. That would probably be the direction I took.17:20
FanshaweNow I'm looking to clear out more, as I've only managed to get about 15mb to myself.17:20
L3tops/other drives/otherlocations/17:20
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alexThunderwell, L3top , my machine died by killing x17:20
L3topwouch.17:21
L3topthats... abnormal.17:21
FanshaweThe reason I'm looking to clear out /var/lib/dpkg/info is that it's currently taking up the most space, by the way.17:21
kjpoxjpoojqsosjhello hello17:21
L3topFanshawe: have you tried running sudo apt-get clean etc?17:22
|2ump|2oasthello17:22
FanshaweI have, and it seems to make no difference.17:22
L3topalexThunder: you might boot into recovery console... and do it from there. Might need to remount with read/write17:23
bekksFanshawe: How much space is it using then?17:23
Dr_Willis:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ du -hs17:24
Dr_Willis109mb   here.17:24
bekks111MB here.17:24
L3top68mb here17:24
FanshaweHow much space is what using? /var/lib/apt is using 65mb, /var/lib/dpkg/info is taking up another 5017:24
Dr_Willisbekks:  show off.. ;P17:24
bekksDr_Willis: I won. :P17:24
bekksFanshawe: Thats not much at all.17:24
FanshaweThen why did I have so much more free space before? I don't understand17:25
|2ump|2oastdoes anyone out there use a bare metal backup / restore program for ubuntu / ubuntu server ?  I've tried mondo / mindi but restore didn't work out very well17:25
L3top!info gdmap | Fanshawe try installing this... it visualises disk space. Makes it very easy to find big files to evaluate if you need them.17:25
ubottuFanshawe try installing this... it visualises disk space. Makes it very easy to find big files to evaluate if you need them.: gdmap (source: gdmap): Tool to visualize diskspace. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-2 (precise), package size 52 kB, installed size 324 kB17:25
bekksFanshawe: Define "so much more" please. How much more?17:25
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L3topdu -hs /var/log17:26
L3tophmmm... where are coredumps...17:26
FanshaweAlright, perhaps not much by most standards, but at the moment Ubuntu is installed on a tiny SD card,17:27
bekksFanshawe: Define "tiny" please.17:27
FanshaweThe free space I had before was about 300mb, consistently, when I used sudo apt-get clean.17:27
Fanshawe4gb17:27
Fanshaweubuntu is currently installed on a 4gb sd card17:28
Dr_Willissounds like youmay want to disable logging totally.17:28
Fanshawethat sounds good, would that prevent the space used sneaking up?17:29
alexThunderhah, finally17:29
alexThunderi killed it17:29
L3topFanshawe: what is the output of du -hs /var/log   out of curiosity17:29
bekkswith fire? *scnr* :)17:29
L3toplol17:30
alexThunderdoes Xorg -configure store a log somewhere?17:30
TuxyThePenguinWhich bootloader should i use (not GRUB)17:30
chixuphello there17:30
bekksFanshawe: It will prevent using space for logging.17:30
Dr_WillisTuxyThePenguin:  perhaps explain why not grub217:30
bekksTuxyThePenguin: Why not?17:30
L3topok alexThunder yes... I believe it does... but it will dump a file ~/xorg.conf.new   that is what we really want. I need that pastebinned if you dont mind.17:30
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nickunhello guys17:30
TuxyThePenguinI cannot type bootflags bekks dr_willis17:30
Dr_Willissince most other boot loaders are either out of date. or used in special cases.17:30
bekksTuxyThePenguin: huh?17:31
alexThunderkk17:31
Dr_WillisTuxyThePenguin:  that made no sence.17:31
nickun25 male17:31
bekksTuxyThePenguin: What exactly are you trying to do?17:31
DJonesnickun: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? This isn't a dating channel17:31
TuxyThePenguinbekks im trying to boot A hackintosh with a special bootcode17:31
beandogDJones: man, that explains a lot ..17:32
Fanshawehttp://pastebin.com/00puGHjg17:32
Fanshawethat is all that shows upon the du command17:32
alexThunderL3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090243/17:33
bekksFanshawe: Use this one: du -h --max-depth=1 /var/17:33
TuxyThePenguinis BURG a good bootloader17:33
aaasanyone know of a way to extract the ocr layer (not image) of a pdf and apply it to another document? is it even possible?17:33
Dr_WillisTuxyThePenguin:  burg is grub2 with extra options.17:33
Dr_WillisTuxyThePenguin:  and its not supported here.17:33
TuxyThePenguinso should i keep grub17:33
alexThunderbtw, it told me, that it failed, because the number of screens doesnt match the devices17:34
Dr_WillisTuxyThePenguin:  I dont see why you need anythign else then grub. perhaps the hackintosh docs/guides will explain  what to use.17:34
Fanshawehttp://pastebin.com/rzn10uuk17:34
alexThunder*doesnt match the numer of detected devices17:34
TuxyThePenguindoes the chameleon bootloader work on linux17:34
L3topOk that is the craziest xorg I have ever seen. Gimme a minute alexThunder.17:34
alexThunderkk :D17:35
beandogFanshawe: try ncdu, it's *much* better17:36
TuxyThePenguinVista not installing17:36
FanshaweI'm not even really sure what information you guys are looking for? I'll use whatever commands you think are the most useful.17:36
beandogFanshawe: what are you trying to do17:36
bekksFanshawe: I just told you one :)17:36
Dr_WillisTuxyThePenguin:  if its not part of  the normal ubuntus.. then basically we dont know. or support it.17:36
bekksFanshawe: Just use it, and provide the output please.17:36
Fanshawebekks: http://pastebin.com/rzn10uuk17:37
bekksFanshawe: Please use sudo.17:37
L3topalexThunder: can you please use regular pastebin.com. The buntus are terrible and want me to login and throw line numbers etc in when I try and copy from the html.17:38
TuxyThePenguinwifi printer support?17:38
Dr_WillisTuxyThePenguin:  ask actual question?17:39
alexThundersure17:39
Dr_WillisMy brother wifi printer works very well.17:39
Fanshawebekks: http://pastebin.com/S6T4KZXY17:39
TuxyThePenguinhow do i print to a pixma wifi printer from ubuntu 12.0417:39
Dr_Willis!printing17:39
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows17:39
DWSRAnyone that can help me with installing FGLRX? I tried using the `Additional Drivers` applet and it just spits out an error that I can make heads or tails of. I can pastebin /var/log/jockey.log17:40
bekksFanshawe: 194M for /var looks pretty good.17:40
Dr_Willisconfigure it with the printing config tools. or the cups web interface.. assumng its supporting linux/cups.. Canon  has very poor linux support at times.17:40
alexThunderhttp://pastebin.com/jBT9mrGV17:40
L3topok alexThunder I am also going to need to see the output of xrandr -q17:41
L3topI need to know what resolution you are aiming for17:41
TuxyThePenguinPRINTING ISSUE SOLVED17:41
Fanshawebekks: So is there no way I can decrease the amount of space it uses? Even just using regular programs causes me to tip over the edge.17:41
L3topalexThunder: that will of course need to be done from WITHIN X lol17:42
alexThunderhttp://pastebin.com/ZWXMTnT417:42
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alexThundersorry, if it takes some time, but pastebin.com seems to be slow for me right now17:43
FanshaweI basically need to use the minimum amount of space possible in order to stop that from happening again, where I have -no- space at all on my filesystem and can't even remove anything via synaptic or the terminal17:44
TuxyThePenguinburg install guide please17:44
beandogFanshawe: how big is your drive17:44
Fanshawe4gb17:44
L3topalexThunder: you are running 1080p now... so I will safely assume that is what you want. Please give me the output of cvt 1920 1080 60.117:45
Dr_WillisTuxyThePenguin:  see burg homepage. this channel does not support BURG. and it has the same features as Grub2 - with just fancy themes17:46
alexThunderL3top: http://pastebin.com/uSS57bfZ17:46
L3topalexThunder: it looks like you are currently connected both to your laptop LVDS screen and an HDMI out to a monitor/tv.... correct?17:47
beandogFanshawe: your best bet is to probably delete the downloaded packages17:47
beandogI dunno where they are stored though17:47
alexThunderdvi17:47
alexThunderbut the LVDS actually should be disabled17:47
L3topsame thing to that it seems.17:47
beandogFanshawe: do you have another partition  you can store stuff on?17:47
L3topIt will always show connected I believe alexThunder. I dont fool with laptops in this area too much. so I could be wrong.17:48
Fanshaweonly another, separate SD in the laptop, but that seems to be treated as secondary/external (i.e. I can't install ubuntu on it)17:48
alexThunderseems that way - since LVDS is pretty black right now :D17:48
Dr_WillisFanshawe:  you could mount it somewhere on / and use it as a system directory17:49
Dr_WillisFanshawe:  or /home/17:49
Dr_Willisor both actually. :) with some work17:49
L3topalexThunder: I will be away for a few minutes trying to generate this. I havent left... but wont be here.17:49
FanshaweI would love to be able to do that, that would give me an extra 8gb right off17:49
alexThunderwell i got plenty of time for today ^^ i'm already thankful, that you invested so much time until now17:50
Dr_WillisFanshawe:  make an entry in the fstab file for it. :) depending on what youa re doing with it.17:50
Dr_Willistime to save up your nickles and buy bigger sd cards. :) or get a usb-flash drive.17:50
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L3topalexThunder: I will tell you a secret... I am very curious about your hardware... and it is rare. I need to know if I can autodetect/autogenerate this for our project... so it is somewhat less selfless than it might appear :P17:51
Fanshawebeandog: You suggested I clear out old downloaded package files, and I tried to do that via synaptic, no difference.17:52
beandogoh okay17:52
Fanshawethank you though, anything to save space17:52
FanshaweDr_Willis: Are there any guides on how to mount a secondary drive in /?17:53
Dr_WillisFanshawe:  remove libreoffice ;)17:53
Dr_WillisFanshawe:  rather fundamental stuff.. just figure out what  system dir you want on the pation and make a fstab entry for it.. move existing stuff to the new fs.. and mount it where it needs to go17:53
FanshaweYou know, there is probably quite a bit of software I could drop, but that's the thing, 300mb has been eaten out of nowhere. Which might not seem like much, but is when you only have 4gb together.17:53
qw_hello all17:54
alexThunderL3top: well, i'm fine with that :D17:54
qw_help me please17:54
Dr_Willis300mb is firefox cache here...17:54
Dr_Willisor any other apps caches... trivial amount of space.17:54
Dr_WillisI got more wallpaper then that. ;P17:54
Dr_WillisSeriously - you are lucky the sytem is going to be useable with just 4gb - no matter what you do. :)  Unless you have really really specilized needs.17:55
qw_in skype my friend did"t my speak17:55
Bronzedidn't or can't17:55
Bronze?17:55
qw_)17:56
alexThunderi guess his friend couldn't hear him speaking17:56
qw_no17:56
FanshaweDr_Willis: Thank you for that, but I've been relying on apt-get clean to get me a decent amount of free space for a while now.17:57
FanshaweI don't understand why it would simply stop working?17:57
Dr_Williswe are getting way to good at playing '20 questions' to get to the real problem. ;)17:57
LordOfTime^17:57
Dr_Willis~/.mozilla$ du -hs17:57
Dr_Willis249M.17:57
bekksFanshawe: If you think you are wasting too much space, use the command I gave you on / instead of /var/17:57
Dr_WillisFanshawe:  as i said.. even my firefox cache settings dir.. is almost 300mb...17:57
bekksThen break it down to see where you are actually wasting space.17:58
PeppyukGood evening all.17:58
Dr_Willislibreoffice is perhaps the largest single app on  the ubuntu system.17:58
qw_my aunt doesn't hear me on Skype I it I hear and it isn't present me17:58
nullpointertohumHello Ubuntu-ers!17:58
nullpointertohumHmm... it seems my name got cut off :(17:59
d0gbyt3what channel would be best to sort out bluetooth problems in a VM for backtrack517:59
Dr_Willisd0gbyt3:  see backtrack support channels.17:59
d0gbyt3thanks Dr17:59
ClientAliveI17:59
ClientAliveI've almost got it. I'm connected wirelessly now but for some reason - if I reboot with the ethernet cable unplugged, network manager doesn't even try to make the wireless connection. Why might this be happening?18:00
ai_hello, can u help me , the optimus nvidia problem?18:00
nullpointertohumAny programmers in here who are interested in joining (beginning really) a development team for a 2D platform game?18:00
qw_рудз ьу18:01
qw_help me18:01
nishttal2does anyone know how to install Adobe Air on 64bit Ubuntu18:02
Fanshawebekks: could I have that command again, please?18:02
bekksFanshawe: sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /18:02
nishttal2i keep getting "Adobe AIR could not be installed. Install either Gnome Keyring or KDE KWallet before installing Adobe AIR."18:02
nishttal2Gnome Keyring is installed though18:03
L3topqw_: help is more likely if you do not demand it. Your problem seems to be with a specific program... skype. I assume you have opened alsamixer and made sure that your mic was not muted, and indeed shows up?18:03
qw_no programm skype18:04
qw_in my system18:04
L3top<qw_> in skype my friend did"t my speak18:05
L3top!details | qw18:06
ubottuqw: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."18:06
Fanshawewhat is 'ubuntu-docs'? The help files?18:06
FanshaweI can safely delete them, right?18:06
MadsRCSo, I've enabled SSH on my server, and forced it to use keys. I've generated a public and private key from my laptop, and transfered the private(?) key using ssh-copy-id user@server to .ssh/autorizedkeys. Say I want to log in to the server from another machine, what do I need on that machine? private or public? or both?18:07
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LordOfTimeMadsRC: you probably copied the public ID (private ID isnt ever copied)18:08
LordOfTimeMadsRC: you should generate a new public/private key pair in the other machine18:08
MadsRCThat's what I thought18:08
LordOfTimeMadsRC: and then use ssh-copy-id accordingly18:08
MadsRCAh, so I can't reuse the public/private key's I already made?18:08
LordOfTimeMadsRC: the alternative is you take both ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub and ~/.ssh/id_rsa and copy that to the new machine18:09
LordOfTimeMadsRC: but i would recommend using individual SSH keys for each machine18:09
LordOfTimeMadsRC: in case one of your machines gets stolen, for instance.18:09
LordOfTimeMadsRC: then, rather than purging the entire key which was shared, you can just remove that machine's specific key.18:09
MadsRCAh, good thought18:09
ClientAlivedoes anyone know what my /etc/network/interfaces should look like. It has no content regarding wlan0 in it and the wireless connection fails on booting up.18:09
MadsRCBut it is possible to reuse the pair i made?18:10
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LordOfTimeMadsRC: yes, i just explained, copy ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub and ~/.ssh/id_rsa or whatever the keys are to the new system's user's ~/.ssh folder18:10
LordOfTimewhere the files to copy exist on the first machine you generated those keys on18:10
LordOfTimes/those keys/the key pair/18:11
LordOfTimeMadsRC: but from an ITSec perspective, I recommend separate keys.18:11
LordOfTimejust in case18:11
beandogssh-copy-id18:11
beandogmuch simpler18:11
MadsRCYeah, i follow18:12
ClientAlivecould I be missing something on my system that I need to install? Something to do with wpa supplicant?18:12
beandogssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub user@host18:12
beandogdone18:12
MadsRCBut, if the server requires keys, I will only be able to do the ssh-copy-id from a machine already with keys right?18:12
zixxyClientAlive, auto lo iface lo inet loopback <-- that's what's in my interfaces file18:12
beandogMadsRC: right18:12
beandogYou still need to get in there *somehow* though18:12
Dr_WillisClientAlive:  normally wifi starts when the user logs in from what ive seen.. not at boot up.18:12
beandogbut I see what you're saying18:13
Dr_WillisClientAlive:  or is that what you ment?18:13
MadsRCYup, planning on getting it there in a encrpyted container :)18:13
beandogMadsRC: make sure the permissions are correct.  0700 on .ssh and 0600 on the authorized_keys18:13
ok_ha, if anyones interested i just figured i can boot my portable usb 12.04 install in a vm now (that doesn't support usb boot) with grub disc 2. amazing!18:13
TheVoidhulo, i need halp. am running ubuntu 10.04 and my processor widget inside my taskbar and system monitor is saying 100% cpu is being used, when it's totally fine. I don't see any process causing this either... :( why is this happening? perhaps i need to reboot?18:13
TheVoidalso18:13
TheVoid 19:13:49 up 1 day, 18:52,  2 users,  load average: 4.65, 4.64, 4.6018:13
ok_sorry *supergrubdisc18:14
ok_*218:14
agikeHow does one recursively change a restored fs from root to user ? I keep getting it wrong ..18:14
MadsRCCan I rename the files?18:14
ok_its been a long day sorry18:14
genii-aroundHm, pretty high load averages18:14
TheVoidyep18:14
ok_just had to tell someone18:14
TheVoidalso, i am running on a netbook (samsung N210)18:14
TheVoidloads are usually like 1-218:14
beandogMadsRC: rename what files18:14
MadsRCthe keys18:15
ClientAliveDr_Willis: I got the connection to work but when I reboot with the cable unplugged network manager does not find anything to connect to so it boots with no networking. I can go to the command line after logging on and do a sudo ifconfig wlan0 up and a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  and then my wireless connects18:15
MadsRCforget it, they won't ever be on the same machine :P18:15
MadsRCso no need to rename18:15
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Dr_WillisClientAlive:  odd.  sounds like something may be timing out. or delayed. You could try putting those commands in /etc/rc.local18:15
r0thaClientAlive: you could try adding something to the /etc/init.d/ folder so it start whenyou boot18:15
ClientAlivethank you zizzy btw18:15
MadsRCBut I should chmod 700 on the clients .ssh folder and 600 on the autthorized_keys file?18:16
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Dr_WillisClientAlive:  id check what modules are loaded befor and after the ifconfig wlan0 up command..  could be they are  not loading at boot.18:16
genii-aroundTheVoid: What's the process at the top of the list when you run "top -n1"18:16
PeppyukHi all, I'm pretty new to linux and am looking for some help with my server.18:16
beandogMadsRC: yah18:16
LordOfTimePeppyuk: help how?18:16
ClientAliveI will check that. thank you.18:17
MadsRCThanks guys :D18:17
LordOfTimeMadsRC: that's why we're here.18:17
* beandog is here for the cookies18:17
TheVoidgenii-around: top is18:17
PeppyukLordOfTime: Any file I try and read from the server are very very slow to read.18:17
TheVoidchromium18:17
TheVoidthen gedit18:18
Dr_WillisPeppyuk:  read how?18:18
LordOfTimewhat Dr_Willis said18:18
TheVoidtop using 5% cpu being on top18:18
MadsRCThere's no need to do sudo chmod 700 .ssh instead of chmod 700 .ssh ? Wouldn't sudo make root the owner of it?18:18
r0thaMadsRC: I've always found this article very helpful -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys18:18
Dr_Willisdrwx------  2 willis willis   4096 May  2 04:26 .ssh18:18
MadsRCAlready read it r0tha :P18:19
genii-aroundTheVoid: Have you tried shutting it down and restarting it?18:19
MadsRCJust clearing up what I not 100% sure about18:19
r0thaMadsRC: ahh gotcha18:19
TheVoidgenii-around: you mean the computer? no. :p18:19
TheVoidwould probably fix it18:19
TheVoidnot 100% sure18:19
TheVoidbut i've never gotten the problem before18:19
r0thaMadsRC: so what'd i'd try is a ls -la in the directory18:19
r0thait will list who the owner is since i"m not totally sure18:20
genii-aroundTheVoid: chromium :-)18:20
TheVoidah18:20
MadsRCThat shows my user as owner of the files18:20
TheVoidshut it down - no difference18:20
Paylhi, can any1 help me with GUI problem in Lubuntu?18:20
hp__when my pc starts , it stays @ Checking battery stat ..... [ok]18:20
MadsRCBut should root be the owner?18:20
PeppyukDr_Willis: Anything I try and read from the server. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and it's been fine but the last couple of weeks the IO read speed is slow. I use samba, can copy file to the server fine, can't read them, also get the same using VSFTPD and wordpress. I did follow a guide for changing the network driversbut that hasn't helped18:20
hp__after that i wont do anything ?18:20
TheVoidstarted it again - no fix18:20
hp__anybody a idee18:21
KorvinSzantomy side-bar on my left monitor won't retract :( I don't want to reboot or log off, is there anything I can do?18:21
Dr_WillisPeppyuk:  and how is it networked? Try just normal ssh/scp so  you can get some actual #'s on the speeds.18:21
KorvinSzantoI've cycled the hide/don'thide setting that didn't work18:21
Dr_WillisKorvinSzanto:   you could try unity --restart perhaps.18:22
Dr_WillisKorvinSzanto:  you are not using Unity2d are you?18:22
Paylanybody got idea howto fix startx error 'no driver'? X -configure also fails, i noticed that only driver avail is 'vmware'. ideas?18:22
KorvinSzantono18:22
Dr_WillisPayl:  this is a normal ubuntu install on a desktop? laptop? what video card?18:22
PaylDr_Willis, it's laptop with some Intel graphics, i installed Lubuntu from text instalator (alternative)18:23
Paylit's old HP laptop.18:23
PeppyukDr_Willis: I connect to it using ssh which seems to work ok, although it has the odd pause here and there.18:23
Dr_WillisPeppyuk:  wired or wireless networking?18:23
L3topalexThunder: Ok... lets give this a swing. Do not be disappointed if it does not work correctly to begin with... we have some work left to do almost guaranteed. http://pastebin.com/Z572FdS518:24
PeppyukDr_Willis: sorry.. wired to a switch, I've tried different cables and different ports too but no difference.18:24
alexThunderi won't be disappointed, since it can't get that much worse :D18:25
tesserakthow do I start a process with a custom process name?18:27
L3topafter replacing your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf with that you will need to reboot aladilas18:27
L3topdoh... seems he did.. sorry aladilas. misfire18:27
alexThunderoh, stop/start x isn't enough?18:28
PaylDr_Willis, i don't want to be rude but can you help me? :P18:28
Paylor any1 other, can't get over it myself18:28
L3topalexThunder: I would just reboot. esp as stopping x last time crashed you.18:29
alexThunderthis time it didn't18:29
alexThunderand at least compositing is back18:29
Dr_WillisPayl:  step 1 would be to figure out what video chipset you got - via the 'lspci' command18:29
L3topalexThunder: the radeon/fglrx struggle for the frame buffer is an epic one... best to reboot when trying to give one control.18:29
alexThunderk i'll just reboot18:29
beandogI hate that struggle.18:29
alexThunderbrb18:29
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Dr_Willisi always turn off the framebuffers.18:30
beandogit's not a bad idea18:30
PaylIntel 82852/855GM Integrated18:30
Dr_Willisframebuffer was one of those great/hot/fancy ideas a few years back everyone was messing with.. that sort of never panned out.18:30
beandogI like it for custom boot18:30
beandogand if you're working on console, nice to have a big fat shiny one with nice background images18:30
bwat47its the fault of proprietary drivers not supporting it properly18:30
bwat47works fine with my intel video :)18:31
beandoguvesafb works great18:31
beandogati just doesn't like playing with others18:31
Dr_Willisi find if im working on the console. the framevuffer slowed things down way way too much to justify the  features it had.18:31
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bwat47if you just look at the architecture of how the binary blobs work its a wonder it works at all :p18:31
Dr_Willisbut with wide screen monitors standard these days. :) i guess it has some uses still.18:31
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PaylDr_Willis, maybe you then know why i got blackscreen when i'm suposed to login into system?18:32
alexThunderso, what's next, L3top18:32
Dr_WillisPayl:  intel drivers are normally well supported. you could try the nomodeset option.18:32
Dr_Willis!nomodeset | Payl18:32
ubottuPayl: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:32
Payli already did nomodeset in grub18:33
Paylwith vga=79118:33
Paylnot changed anything18:33
Dr_Willisi  think the use of vga= is outdated.18:33
L3topalexThunder: Well... I need to know what happened when it came up... and I would like to see lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A2   again18:34
Paylit's depraced if i type it correctly18:34
Dr_WillisPayl:  you could try text mode - see what you can see with that.. see if the console at least works.18:34
Dr_Willis!text18:34
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode18:34
PaylDr_Willis, i'm on console mode18:34
Payli've started it with F818:34
genii-aroundDr_Willis: It still works, but I think preferred is now GRUB_GFXMODE= in /etc/default/grub18:34
alexThunderare you after the kernel module? its "radeon"18:34
Dr_WillisPayl:  so does  'ps ax | grep lightdm' show lightdm running? or what does lubuntu use.. i forget..18:35
L3topIt was... alexThunder.18:35
Dr_Willis!info lxdm18:35
ubottulxdm (source: lxdm): GUI login manager for LXDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-0ubuntu6 (precise), package size 114 kB, installed size 763 kB18:35
alexThunderhttp://pastebin.com/dD71r7LN18:35
Dr_WillisPayl:  so does  'ps ax | grep lxdm' show lxdm running18:35
PaylDr_Willis , i thinkg it's lightdm. And grep show result, so i assume it's running18:35
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Dr_Willisgrep shows its own command line.. :)  what was the result...18:36
Payl1880 tty1 S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto lightm18:36
Payllightdm* (in red)18:36
Dr_WillisPayl:  so. :) its showing your grep command...18:36
Dr_Willisand its lightdm18:36
Dr_Willisnot tm18:36
L3topthat is just grep... for the record when grepping ps I always add | grep -v grep18:37
Payli've typed lightdm18:37
Dr_Willisgrep is grepping itself. :)18:37
Dr_WillisPayl:  so does  'ps ax | grep lxdm' show lxdm running    Lubuntu uses lxdm i belive18:38
Dr_Willissudo service lightdm status18:38
Payllxdm=lightdm?18:39
Dr_Willissudo service lxdm  status18:39
Dr_WillisPayl:  No.. the 2 are DIFFERNT.18:39
L3topok alexThunder... lets try just ignoring the intel alltogether... please backup that current xorg.conf so we can get back to it... and replace it with http://pastebin.com/2xYSDezV   and... sorry... reboot18:39
Dr_Willislubuntu uses lxdm , ubuntu uses lightdm .  I think18:39
Paylyup, but i've seen tuts documenting lxdm18:39
Payland i've installed it via apt-get, to warn you :)18:39
Payllxdm is stop/waiting18:39
Dr_Willisbut are you even using it?18:39
PaylDr_Willis, i'm trying to get any gui to run.18:40
Payl:)18:40
alexThunderkk, brb again18:40
Paylit's newly installed lubuntu.18:40
Dr_Willisso whats the status of lightdm?18:40
Dr_Willissee if either one is running..is what we are tyring to do18:40
Payllightdm is also stop/waiting18:40
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Paylalso command lightdm brings me to 'screen' (Alt+Ctrl+F7)18:41
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Paylbut there are just some consolelike trash.18:41
Payli mean not a gui18:41
Payl:)18:41
Dr_Willissounds like some  driver issues going on.18:42
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PaylDr_Willis, X -configure gives error18:42
Dr_Willischeck /var/log/Xorg.#.log   perhaps next to see if any erorrs are there18:42
Paylonly 'vmware' driver is found..18:42
Dr_WillisLast i looked X -confiogure was outdated also.18:42
PaylDr_Willis, what editor should i use18:42
Payli want windowslike editor please lol :P18:43
Dr_Williseditor? text editor? for the consoel i use vi or nano.18:43
qw_YES18:43
Dr_Willistheres some clones out of the old dos edit. but no idea what it was called18:43
qw_ITS WORK!18:43
Paylby # u mean number or just #?18:43
L3topjoe is pretty friendly too.18:43
Dr_WillisTheres several log files  older ones have higher #'s18:44
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Payli'm using type, it haven't found /var/log/Xorg.0.log18:44
Dr_Willis!tab18:44
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.18:44
Dr_Williswillis@Speedbuntu:/var/log$ Xorg.0.log18:45
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Dr_Willis less /var/log/Xorg.18:45
* L3top thinking alex cant get back to dt... hopes he understood WHY we were backing up that old xorg.conf18:45
Dr_Willisthen hiot the tab key at the end a few times. :)18:45
Payloh wait there is Xorg.0.log lol with dir.18:45
Paylnah type doesn't want to print it.18:46
Dr_Willistype?18:46
Dr_Williserr.. type is a DOS command i recall....18:46
BigGoldyup18:46
L3topPayl: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less18:46
Dr_Willis less /var/log/Xorg.                 <--- and tap the tab key.....18:46
BigGoldL3top: blatant abuse of cat :318:46
L3topyou can scroll up and down.18:47
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Payloh ok got it18:47
* L3top hangs head18:47
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* L3top cats greps too... its a terrible habit.18:47
Dr_Willistail -10 /var/log/Xorg.0.log18:47
Dr_Willis:)18:47
Paylsome warnings there, last message is (II) Loader magic: 0x3fc5a018:48
Paylwarnings are bout nonexistant font paths i think18:48
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Dr_Willisyou may want to pastebin the whole file.  'sudo apt-get install pastebinit' then 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'18:48
Dr_Willisnote no cat. ;P18:48
Payloh wait, cat scrool18:48
* BigGold mews. :318:48
L3topPayl: might be a good idea to sudo apt-get install pastebinit       then you can just pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log18:48
Paylwow, so advanced18:48
Paylok w818:49
Dr_Willisrather trivial actially18:49
L3topthat is less, not cat... as mentioned... the cat was completely unnecessary18:49
Paylhow do i exit cat lol18:49
BigGoldpress the letter q18:49
L3top:q18:49
Payloh lol18:49
Dr_Willisthat would hbe for 'more' or 'less' not 'cat'18:49
bekksThats not exiting cat, but exiting less.18:49
Paylbtw. i'm logged as root (sudo -i)18:49
NaeblisHi. I'm getting the following errors while installing packages: http://pastebin.com/Cr64iMqy . Any help? :)18:49
hp__stuck @ "checking battery state" ? what to do any tips18:49
hp__i reinstalled ubuntu-deksop18:50
L3topchances are you have some PPA that is causing package conflicts Naeblis.18:50
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Paylinstalling pastebinit18:50
hp__i did reinstall gnome power manager18:50
NaeblisL3top, so, sources.list right?18:51
hp__still the same problem being stuck at battery checkt18:51
Paylshould i do cat file | pastebinit?18:51
Dr_Willisyou may want to pastebin the whole file.  'sudo apt-get install pastebinit' then 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'18:51
L3topyou can just pastebinit /path/to/file18:51
Dr_Willisnote no cat. ;P18:51
L3toplol18:51
* L3top would cat it.18:51
L3toplol18:51
Dr_Willishp__:  does it have an 'ok' or 'fail' at the end of that line?18:51
hp__Dr_Willis, it hase a [ok]18:52
bekkshp__: So it isnt stuck there.18:52
Dr_Willishp__:  the i would guess that the error is somting happening after the battery state check.18:52
Paylhere it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090358/18:52
hp__bekks, well it doenst do anything after taht18:53
Paylalmost same i get when i do startx18:53
Dr_Willisline 108 --->    [  4258.721] (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0)18:53
bekkshp__: OK indicated "everything alright". It is stuck after that.18:53
Dr_WillisPayl:  you instelled the DESKTOP edition? :) and not the server edition by mistake?18:54
Payli don't think so lol18:54
hp__bekks, but what needs to come after that ?!18:54
Paylfilename lubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso18:54
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Payljust made it to USB and install...18:55
L3topPayl: lspci -nn | grep VGA18:55
ClientAliveit looks like all the same modules are loaded both before and after. I did find out more information. With ethernet cable unplugged:  If I do ifconfig wlan0 up then do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  it freezes and eventually does not start the network (in this case it is doing the same thing is does when I boot up). However, if I do sudo ifconfig wlan0, then plug in the ethernet cable, then do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  i18:55
ClientAlivet fires right up and connects to the wireless. In that latter case, it connects to the wireless even though the ethernet cable is still plugged in. Then I can unplug the enthernet cable and still be connected wirelessly (unless I reboot).18:55
L3topit cant load the most basic modules for your gpu18:55
PaylL3top, it's Intel 855GM18:55
L3topPayl: lspci -nn | grep VGA | pastebinit18:56
Paylhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1090364/18:56
alexThunderL3top?18:56
Paylbtw. this pastebinit thing is quite smart lol.18:57
L3topaha... you made it back! Whats going on alexThunder. Your long break makes me think this did not go as hoped.18:57
alexThundercorrect18:57
alexThunderX doesnt work18:57
alexThunderand i have now set up a terminal irc18:58
alexThunderthought that might become useful when playing around with X18:58
hp__this pc hase a onboard graphic card , could that be the problem to "checking battery state" hangup18:58
L3topThis was why I said to backup the xorg.conf, so you could revert and at least get X up18:58
alexThunderyes, that's what im going to do now18:59
PaylDr_Willis, so have you idea what it might be? :P18:59
Dr_WillisPayl:  not really. seems the intel module may be missing.  I dont evenknwow hat module inteluses to check18:59
alexThunderbrb18:59
Payli don't really think it's server instalation, it have lightdm by default18:59
Dr_WillisPayl:  i would test with some other disrtos to see if any of them work. Like TinyCorelinux, and the lubuntu Desktop live cd.19:00
iliancan anyone give me some help how to install  acpi4asus-dkms to enable my asus function keys19:00
L3topPayl: PPAs are explicitly not supported by ubuntu support... that being said. give this a try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-intel-82852855gm-drivers-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html#more-1091719:00
Dr_Williscould be the  installer just reallymessed up19:00
Dr_Willis!info acpi4asus-dkms19:00
ubottuPackage acpi4asus-dkms does not exist in precise19:00
ClientAlivesorry, does anyone have a clue where to look for the problem?19:01
PaylDr_Willis, do you think old HP is capable of running livecd lubuntu?19:01
PaylDr_Willis, it can't go on with GUI installer (hangs)19:01
Payl:P19:01
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alexThunderre again19:01
BenxyzzyI'm trying to set up a DHCP server on Ubuntu Server. I just installed dhcp3 and I see I have *two* folders in /etc ... 'dhcp' and 'dhcp3' . The config file dhcpd.conf appears in /etc/dhcp instead of /etc/dhcp3 as indicated here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server . It looks like the server's DHCP client and server daemons are getting mixed up. Do I need to worry about this?19:01
Dr_WillisPayl:  no idea. your definition of old.. may not be the same as mine.. I have a Timex Sinclare - thats OLD...19:01
addoshi, how do I manually unmount a usb drive?19:02
L3top!info xserver-xorg-video-intel | Dr_Willis19:02
Payl1300Mhz Celeron19:02
ubottuDr_Willis: xserver-xorg-video-intel (source: xserver-xorg-video-intel): X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.17.0-1ubuntu4 (precise), package size 234 kB, installed size 917 kB (Only available for amd64; i386)19:02
Dr_WillisPayl:  tinycore linux should run on moust things.19:02
addoseverytime I try, ubuntu remounts19:02
PaylDr_Willis, alright, but first i'll try to run those drivers19:02
Dr_WillisPayl:  try a 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel'19:02
Paylok w819:02
* Dr_Willis w8's19:02
Paylit can't find packet19:03
Dr_Willisdouble check spelling? use tab completion? ;)19:03
Paylk...19:03
Dr_Willissudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade, then try again?19:03
Dr_Willisdance a jig around the room singing  sailor shanties...19:04
Paylupdate is going on...19:04
alexThunderL3top: i reverted to the last working xorg.conf19:04
rinzlerI'm having some major problems. I just started up my 12.04 xubuntu machine and now there is only one workspace available (had 6), and the window buttons (close minimize maximize) are gone. I've tried rebooting and the whole nine yards. also, none of the open windows are being shown in the Window Buttons panel item, and alt-tab doesn't work either.19:05
xanguarinzler: did you try to reset unity and/or compiz¿19:06
BigGoldDr_Willis: what do you do with a drunken perler, what do you do with a drunken perler, what do you do with a drunken perler, early in the mor~nin'?19:06
rinzlerxangua: I am using neither. I am using xfce19:06
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Dr_Willissounds like the window manager is not loading tome.  be it compiz, or xfwm419:07
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rinzlerDr_Willis: you know of any commands to reset it?19:08
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L3topfor the record I expect it will already be installed Dr_Willis. The 500-850GM are special... and I do not believe they will run at all on the native intel module... which is why I gave him the ppa instructions. According to hix Xorg.0.log it tried to load the intel module, so I am sure it is available, and if it couldn't even load the freakin fbdev driver... I think he will need that ppa install. fbdev will load on practically anything.19:08
PaylL3top, we will see no worries :P19:09
Dr_Willisi dont use xfce/xubuntu. You could tryinstall ing a differnt window maanger like jwm and see if it works rinzler . OR try making a new user and see if the desktop works for them. If the new user works.. then its some setting for the old user thats the issue.19:09
hp__so i have this program INXI  and this is the outcome of my graphic card http://pastebin.com/Z0aPvXU619:09
hp__its wrong isnt it ???19:09
* L3top now wonders how he did the install to begin with19:09
Dr_WillisL3top:  text based installer he said.19:10
L3topPayl: did you do an alternate non gui install?19:10
L3topah... that would be how19:10
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hp__is that why it stuck at that point and dont get a qui ?19:10
PaylL3top, i did nongui install, yes19:10
Paylgui install was working.19:10
[snake]Hello. Is there a way to completely erase some data? perhaps just the free space(to write zeroes to the free space just like in Mac OS X's disk utility) I was fooling around in testdisk and found some files from the distant past that are rather unwanted.19:10
rinzlerDr_Willis: found the solution: running xfwm4 --replace fixed it19:10
Paylbut it was slow and it keep on crashing19:10
superuserhello, im haveing some issues with the gnome panel19:11
L3topI am still thinking alexThunder. Have not forgotten you. I simply don't understand how your xorg.conf defined module is being ignored. THat shouldn't ever happen. That was my best guess... and... I am a bit stumped where to go from here... I have to clean a bit before wife gets home... so I will ponder.19:11
hp__http://pastebin.com/Z0aPvXU6   can someone explain me this , or what is wrong with it ?19:12
alexThunderkk19:12
Paylthis upgrade takes forever...19:12
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superuserer. error message. http://pastebin.com/2HpscqhA19:13
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[snake]how to erase(write zeroes over) free space?19:13
zoumzoum16!paste19:14
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:14
irpapabearsnake use bleachbit19:15
ClientAlive<ClientAlive> it looks like all the same modules are loaded both before and after. I did find out more information. With ethernet cable unplugged:  If I do ifconfig wlan0 up then do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  it freezes and eventually does not start the network (in this case it is doing the same thing is does when I boot up). However, if I do sudo ifconfig wlan0, then plug in the ethernet cable, then do sudo /etc/init.d/network19:16
ClientAliveing restart  i19:16
ClientAlive<ClientAlive> t fires right up and connects to the wireless. In that latter case, it connects to the wireless even though the ethernet cable is still plugged in. Then I can unplug the enthernet cable and still be connected wirelessly (unless I reboot). Does anyone have a clue where to look for the problem?19:16
addoshi, how do I manually unmount a usb drive in ubuntu 12.04. Everytime I try, it remounts19:16
FloodBot1ClientAlive: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:16
Paylseems liks xserver got updated too.19:16
IdleOne[snake]: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M19:16
IdleOneReplace "/dev/hda" with your hard drive name. http://www.ehow.com/how_5094973_write-zeros-hard-drive-linux.html19:16
superuserL3top: http://pastebin.com/2HpscqhA19:16
ClientAliveI'm sorry, I don't know how else to tell what is going on.19:17
iGNUrarhi all, how to remove a service from default boot service?19:18
[snake]IdleOne, thanks!19:18
vijuHi19:19
vijuWhat are minimal requirements of Precise ?19:19
usern4mebind9 starts fine if i use 'service bind9 start' but it doesn't start when i reboot.  where do i change what services start at boot from CLI?19:19
xangua!requirements | viju19:20
ubottuviju: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu19:20
nothingspecial #ubuntu-beginners19:20
Paylupgrade done finally19:20
usern4mei'm familar with gentoo rc-update command.  what is ubuntu's equivolent?19:20
L3topalexThunder: apt-cache policy fglrx | grep stalled19:20
[snake]IdleOne, the page says that the command overwrites all the things. so maybe this is a good time to backup, and possibly install a later version of Ubuntu afterwards.19:20
vijuthanks19:21
ClientAliveaddos: on the command line - enter "dmesg | tail" and look for the device label. It will be something like /dev/sdi or something. Then, if you don't already have a place you want to mount it, create a directory somewhere (in /mnt would be fine). Then you can run mount /dev/<label of device> /mnt/<name of directory>19:21
PaylDr_Willis, should i restart after i've done this command?19:21
Payli mean install19:21
addosClientAlive: it is automounted, I want to unmount it19:21
addoseverytime I try, it remounts19:22
IdleOne[snake]: that command will destroy all the data on the drive. Yes, a backup is a good idea19:22
L3topusern4me: update-rc.d scriptname defaults  or update-rc.d -lf scriptname remove are common uses to add a script in /etc/init.d to runlevels or remove them.19:22
ClientAliveaddos: umount does not work?19:22
addosno19:22
addosit immediately remounts19:22
usern4meL3top, thanks19:22
addoswhich is keeping me from formatting the media19:22
ClientAlivethat's about the extent of my knowledge. sorry19:22
addosolder ubuntu versions let me unmount the media19:23
PaylL3top, i've done steps advised by Dr_Willis, startx still errors with 'no screens found', should i install your drivers?19:23
Paylor restart to test or wat...19:23
bekksaddos: umount never remounts. What exactly is happening?19:23
hp__how to install a driver on the command line for intel 82865g integrated graphics controller ?19:23
daniel___espanish  ,  waht  chanel ?19:23
addosumount must not be doing the mounting19:23
Dr_WillisPayl:  a reboot may be called for. but im out of ideas if that dosent help19:23
Paylok then lets try19:24
daniel___aki pueden ayudar en español tambien ?19:24
xanguadaniel___: #ubuntu-es19:24
addosI sudo unmount, and then I look at mount, and it is mounted19:24
ClientAliveaddos: I wonder if there is some kind of filter somewhere that makes it look for that device label and mount it. Or what about in fstab? Is there a line in fstab that mounts it?19:24
daniel___gracias xangua19:24
bekksaddos: Then it wasnt umounted.19:24
addosuh, it must have been19:24
bekksNo, why?19:24
addosunity acts like I freshly remounted the drive19:24
bekksaddos: Just because you want it? :)19:24
L3topstrongly recommend it Payl. I think it is the only way its gonna go.19:24
addosno, unity behaves like it was remounted19:24
addoslike I ejected and plugged the drive back in19:25
addosok like it unmounts and immediately remounts19:25
PaylL3top, will try it if it fails now, i'm rebooting19:25
superusercan anyone help? http://pastebin.com/2HpscqhA19:25
Paylwoah it works19:25
Payl:P19:25
L3topwhat worked Payl?19:26
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PaylL3top, upgrading startx19:26
Payland then installing intel drivers19:26
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PaylDr_Willis, L3top, thanks a lot, wouldn't find answer myself :)19:27
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* L3top wonders why they werent installed already... also sort of thinks you had the server install cd now19:28
hp__when i do "lspci" it reads the intel controller , but does it also mean it works ?19:28
hp__or is it only reading the hardware19:28
AaronMTWhat was that community-based device testing software from ubuntu called?19:28
greenithi, i have a question regarding wine... where shall i ask it best? i'll get kicked when i want to join the wine-channel, it says invite only...19:29
aLeSD|greenit: register your nick19:31
genii-aroundgreenit: Are you trying #winehq channel?19:31
alexThunderL3top: it doesn't give me any output19:31
hp__in my x11/xorg.conf its says section device. nvidia .  thats my old card i have now a onboard card , how do i deal with it19:32
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L3topalexThunder: lets keep the xorg.conf you have, uninstall the catalyst driver you installed from ati, and use the repos to sudo apt-get install fglrx19:32
L3topalexThunder: first run the same command using fglrx-updates19:33
greenitgenii-around, oh, thx^^19:34
L3topwait alexThunder it gives NO output? I wasn't thinking it should definitely give SOME output...19:34
L3topwhether or not it is installed19:34
L3topapt-cache policy fglrx | grep stall19:35
alexThundernow it says "none", but I already purged fglrx19:35
L3topok...19:35
alexThunderah19:35
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alexThunderit didn't output anything because its in german19:36
L3topDOH19:36
alexThunder:X19:36
* L3top makes mental note19:36
L3topoh crap... that means... oh wow... I need to look at some code.19:36
TiZOkay, I almost have a displaylink setup up and working. The displaylink monitor is a new xinerama desktop to the right of my vga displays, and my vga displays... are clones of each other. What do I do?19:36
alexThunderbtw, what does fglrx-updates actually do?19:37
L3topit is a slightly updated version of the fglrx driver.19:38
L3topit may not exist atm19:39
alexThunderk19:40
alexThunderso, should i still install fglrx-updates and then fglrx ?19:41
alexThunder(from the repos)19:41
L3topeither or. I do not find fglrx-updates in the repo atm19:41
L3top!info fglrx-updates19:42
ubottufglrx-updates (source: fglrx-installer-updates): Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is extra. Version 2:8.960-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 38286 kB, installed size 114917 kB (Only available for amd64; i386)19:42
L3topbut on my system it returns W: Unable to locate package fglrx-updates19:42
L3top!info fglrx19:42
ubottufglrx (source: fglrx-installer): Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is extra. Version 2:8.960-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 38286 kB, installed size 114917 kB (Only available for amd64; i386)19:42
L3topthey both show the same version19:43
L3topSo my guess is that there is not an updates currently19:43
alexThunderwhich catalyst might that be?19:43
WindozeNThi19:44
WindozeNTWhat's the Ubuntu equivilent of chkdsk?19:44
alexThunderoh k, its 12.319:45
wizackHow do I show "Playing now" with CVLC?19:45
TiZOkay, I almost have a displaylink setup up and working. The displaylink monitor is a new xinerama desktop to the right of my vga displays, and my vga displays... are clones of each other. What do I do?19:45
WindozeNTI have a hard drive that I think is seriously damaged.19:45
L3topWindozeNT: fsck19:45
DJones!fsck | WindozeNT19:45
ubottuWindozeNT: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot19:45
L3topalexThunder: 12-4 and as expected... a reboot will be wanted.19:46
WindozeNTok19:46
alexThunderok, brb19:46
WindozeNTDoes it work on an NTFS drive?19:47
nyuszika7hIs it normal that Ubuntu 12.10 says "Ubuntu 12.04 LTS"?19:48
genii-aroundWindozeNT: There is no reliable fsck.ntfs ... the best that can really be done is to just mark the filesystem clean when it's really not. Really best to do an actual Windows chkdsk on it19:48
alexThunderre19:49
alexThunderlspci -nnk | grep VGA -A2 still seems the same19:49
L3topcan we try another aticonfig --initial19:50
skaMy F1A55-M motherboard came back from ASUS. I thought it was a problem with the board but it only gets bad when I start the FGLRX driver for Xorg.19:50
L3topsee if it cannot find19:50
L3topska: lspci -nn | grep VGA19:50
alexThunderNo supported adapters detected19:50
skaAt that point, I can't use the system consoled F1-F7.. I can use them but they are all jumply.19:50
GeorgeJYo, folks.19:50
ska00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:964a]19:51
GeorgeJI'm trying to free up some space on my netbook, I'm all out of inodes.19:51
GeorgeJIs /usr/src needed?19:51
L3topska: update-pciids and go again please.19:51
L3topska: what version of ubuntu are you on btw?19:52
ska00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6530D] [1002:964a]19:52
skaL3top: Thanks.19:52
skaL3top: Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l, xserver-xorg-core:2:1.10.4-1ubuntu4.2, Fglrg: 2:8.881-0ubuntu4.119:53
bjorkintoshi have sound problems again. why won't alsa automatically use my usb card as a sink?19:53
skaL3top: Also, inside of Xorg, some lines on top are flickering/wonky..19:53
|max|-hey i run  sudo locale-gen fr_FR.UTF-8 and sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales but /etc/default/locale is empty19:54
skaWhen I shutdown Xorg/gdm evythinging in text mode is Aok.19:54
hyliani get this message: ati/amd proprietary fglrx driver or the same driver with (post-release updates)... which one should I pick?19:54
L3topbjorkintosh: you might have to make some changes to the asound.conf for that. Are you using pulse audio at all?19:54
nyuszika7halexThunder, AMD dropped support for your card. Stick with the open source driver or install an older fglrx.19:54
nyuszika7hHappened to me too :(19:54
alexThunderhuh?19:54
alexThunderit just came out19:54
L3topnot on his version... absolutely incorrect.19:55
nyuszika7hIt did?19:55
nyuszika7hWell, maybe it's *too new* card then19:55
alexThunderpitcairn is pretty new19:55
XaliaveHello19:55
skanyuszika7h: Was that message for me possibly?19:55
L3topthe NEWEST catalyst has dropped support for the hd 2xxx-4xxx series19:55
|max|-user can help me ? :p19:55
nyuszika7hska, what?19:55
L3topboth ska and alexThunder are on HD6xxx +19:56
skanyuszika7h: is MY FGLRX the wrong version?19:56
L3topska NO.19:56
skaok..19:56
bjorkintoshL3top, yes i am using pulse audio19:56
bjorkintoshand also jackd19:56
alexThunderisnt the 7970m based on the desktop 7870?19:56
L3tophowever it does not appear that your version is particularly happy either.19:56
bjorkintoshjackd isn't running now.19:56
alexThunderoh you said "+"19:57
bjorkintoshwhy do i need both alsa AND pulseaudio?19:57
skaL3top: Can I upgrade/downgrade to a happy place?19:57
nyuszika7hska, I don't think I meant to say it to you19:57
nyuszika7h21:50:42      alexThunder | No supported adapters detected19:57
nyuszika7hI replied to thaz19:57
nyuszika7h*that19:57
trismGeorgeJ: if you have linux-headers installed and are using modules built from dkms (such as the nvidia proprietary drivers, or similar), then yes, it is needed19:57
skaL3top: I can dist-upgrade19:57
L3topIt is a hybrid graphics card in a laptop nyuszika7h. That is why it isnt found.19:57
GeorgeJtrism: It's a clean instalation. I've not installed anything extra.19:58
GeorgeJNor am I using extra drivers.19:58
L3topYou can ska... I am not particularly familiar with your version of ubuntu. I do not know if there is a later version available... but that would be a good start... an update/dist-upgrade19:58
skaL3top: I had Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit and saw similar problems.19:58
* nyuszika7h gives up19:58
|max|-hey i run  sudo locale-gen fr_FR.UTF-8 and sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales but /etc/default/locale is empty19:58
GeorgeJtrism: Is it safe to remove its contents?19:59
L3topska:  unfortunately ati support is poo on linux. You might try upgrading to the most recent from ati by download, purging your current fglrx first.19:59
XaliaveWhen I go to install ubuntu, I get a menagerie of video errors, mostly flickering screens and the sort, I can use live CD's, how ever I can't click on anything after about a few seconds and I need to tab through windows. The only think I can get to work is an old livecd for 7.10, which once I try to install it, it either does the flickering thing or the clicking thing. Last night I tried installing Ubuntu with no success19:59
L3top!nomodeset | Xaliave you might give nomodeset a try.20:00
ubottuXaliave you might give nomodeset a try.: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:00
bjorkintoshL3top, i am indeed using both pulse and alsa. do i need both of them?20:01
L3topI don't know that it really applies to you Xaliave.20:01
XaliaveI tried that before with Grub, it worked up until the log in screen, at which point it was split weirdly, as if it thought my monitor ended where it didn't, and then it looped back to the other side20:02
L3topneed is an interesting word bjorkintosh. I do not deal with pulse, at all. I specify everything in alsa directly... but I do not know that you would have my success doing so. I was asking purely because I know very little about pulse...  you might try installing pavucontrol20:03
trismGeorgeJ: can you pastebin: ls /usr/src; ? I am curious what is there (if it is just linux-headers and you aren't using them, you can install that package, but I wouldn't delete anything there manually)20:03
trismGeorgeJ: uninstall that is20:03
GeorgeJtrism: There's nothing else besides different versions of the linux kernel headers20:03
GeorgeJAlso, there seem to be different versions of it.20:04
GeorgeJHow would one uninstall the kernels one doesn't use?20:04
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XaliaveOccasionally I'm able to get a command line, I'm not sure when it does it, seemingly when it wants to20:05
XaliaveAt which point I can't run any graphical programs, I forget what error it comes up with20:05
L3topXaliave: can you please pastebin the output of xrandr -q20:05
XaliaveI'm not on it now, it doesn't install20:05
bjorkintoshi do have pavucontrol installed.20:06
bjorkintoshit's still not straight forward. some devices insist on using alsa strictly.20:06
JenniferB2in try ubuntu from disc ... how do I open an "explorer" window as root again ?20:06
bjorkintoshJenniferB2, if it needs roots permission, it'll ask for a password.20:06
wizackHow do I show streaming audio information from the terminal with VLC?20:07
wizacklike artist, playing now, etc20:07
trismGeorgeJ: dpkg -l 'linux-image*'; to list them, sudo apt-get remove linux-image-VERSION; to uninstall them (replacing VERSION with the version string, which you can <tab> complete)20:07
XaliaveAre there known problems with the 6800? Fedora does a similar thing, as does Debian20:08
trismGeorgeJ: make sure you do not uninstall your current kernel, or any of the metapackages (the ones without a -VERSION at the end)20:08
XaliaveI can't find anything about it on google20:08
L3topmy guess is this has more to do with your monitor than video card, and its inability to get EDID and guessing, poorly, at how to render output, or receiving the wrong EDID data, more likely20:08
trismGeorgeJ: you can do the same for the linux-headers packages if you don't need them20:08
GeorgeJGreat, awesome! Thanks trism.20:08
L3topJenniferB2: gksudo nautilis20:09
delacis it possible to have syntax highlight on SELECTED text in gedit? Has anyone seen such theme that would enable this?20:11
L3topoh alexThunder can you pastebin your xorg.conf. I want to see if it was changed by the fglrx install20:12
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alexThunderjust a minute20:12
alexThunderL3top: http://pastebin.com/6YJEc9ET20:12
XaliaveI had ubuntu installed for a while on a completely different computer with a different monitor, and that worked. The monitor I currently have is a Acer H203H the older one is a gateway thing, not sure what model it is20:12
L3topalexThunder: you can also look at the /etc/X11 dir... it would have backed it up as something you didnt.20:13
danubwhat is the command for opening a terminal?20:13
Guest55399gnome-terminal20:13
JenniferB2bjorkintosh: thats  not what I asked .. and no.. it doesnt ... L3top: thansk ;)20:13
delacgnome-terminal20:13
L3topXaliave: without you being on the machine I cannot give support or troubleshoot I am sorry.20:13
L3topXaliave: if you can just load any live ubuntu cd, without even installing, I could help.20:14
guntbertJenniferB2: a warning seems appropriate: running nautilus with root permissions is seldom necessary and always dangerous20:14
alexThunderL3top: i didn't create xorg.conf.failsafe, but i think it was there before20:15
JenniferB2guntbert: I need to copy files from one disk to antoher before reformatting and reinstalling20:15
L3topJenniferB2: guntbert is right... but... as you are on a live disk... I dont see too much harm... and that is why it doesnt prompt for a pass btw20:15
L3topJenniferB2: that would best be solved in terminal... using rsync or something similar.20:16
JenniferB2L3top: I was blocked because of disc permissions20:16
XaliaveAlright, I'll try and find one, It works when I unplug the graphics cards PCI and just use my onboard graphics card from my motherboard, so I'll try another mouse, see if that solves the clicking20:16
guntbertJenniferB2: ah I overlooked the "live CD" part :) but ^^20:16
Xaliaveit might work20:16
Xaliavethanks20:16
JenniferB2copying is preparing ... :D i dont think you ever get a root permission request when trying to access files as a user different from the user registered for that user unless it is specified it is root... if it is another user owning them, I dont think the root password thing comes up.. that is why I believe in this case the root nautilus works and the other not20:18
skaL3top: thanks for the help.20:18
hylianI really like unity, but I can't find a menu with a list of all my installed apps on it... is there another solution besides going to gnome in classic mode to get that menu back, or something like it? I need the menu to be quickly reachable too.20:19
L3topalexThunder: can you change line 132 Device          "Card0"  to Card1  and remove lines 51-58 concerning Monitor1 and reboot again (sorry... I know rebooting sucks but... this is just one of those cases where reloading is rarely sufficient)20:20
guntberthylian: open the dash, select the apps lense and beside "installed " click on "see ... more"20:21
alexThunderkk, brb20:21
hylianguntbert: i know of that, but that's in a big jumble. looking for the same organized menu feel that gnome classic had...?20:22
guntberthylian: no idea then, sorry20:23
L3topJenniferB2: on live boot you are never prompted for password. There simpy isnt one.20:23
hylianguntbert: for now I have been running xfce4-panel, running what i want, and then killing the panel, but that is kinda clunky...20:23
alexThunderL3top: x doesn't work - again :/20:24
L3topI thought that might be the case. It REALLY wants to use that intel... change line 132 (well it will be something else now... like 124) back to Card020:24
baazigarHello, which plugin should i download if a gaming site on chrome says no plugin available to display this content? Adobe flash player?20:25
hyliananyone else know of a way to keep unity, but have the organized gnome-ish menu? (or something very similar?20:25
trismhylian: could try: https://launchpad.net/classicmenu-indicator20:25
guntberthylian: well, remember how often an app was in a completely unexpected sub-menu, I can get by without the menues ...20:25
alexThundermh, can nano display line numbers? ^^20:25
hylianguntbert: thanks, I think I'll try that!20:25
L3topbaazigar: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer20:25
baazigarIs there any plugin other than adobe plugin?20:25
guntberthylian: that was trism :)20:26
baazigarfor ubuntu?20:26
L3topalexThunder: it is under Section "Screen"20:26
alexThunderok20:26
alexThunderbrb20:26
L3topoh.. well yes... but if flash wont run it, and it is a flash game... then you are pretty much SOL... though there are flash alternatives... their main benefit is that they are free open source... not MORE compatable.20:27
L3topbaazigar: ^20:27
baazigarL3top, I read reviews for adobe plugin and it says it shows blue people while rendering20:27
alexThunderand returned again20:28
L3topbaazigar: there is a fix for that... but... you can try gnash or lightspark... (I think it is lightspark... I always get them confused)20:29
Picibaazigar: if you disable hardware rendering in the flash preferences it will work fine.20:29
baazigarL3top, ok i wanted to make sure if adobe is the best for ubuntu or not, thanks.20:29
L3topI would not say that it is best... at all... I am saying it works with more flash content than the others baazigar. It comes with its own host of problems.20:30
wrapidsOccasionally a window will decide that it isn't going to maximize to a particular monitor in my dual monitor setup. If I maximize one of these said windows it just moves to the otehr screen.20:30
wrapidsIn this case, chrome is doing it and restarting it doesn't help20:30
slackinAnyone here use mencoder? Here's a small collection of transcoding scripts I created if anyone is interested: http://pugbot.com/source/mencoder/30min-video/20:31
L3topwrapids: it is probably something to do with the DM "sticky edges" or something. I am not sure on this, but I believe that is probably the issue... I THINK it is a compiz thing... but I am guessing.20:31
baazigarPici, yes i read that somewhere, hopefully i should work20:32
L3topThat is sort of frowned upon in here slackin. Goodness only knows what that link might contain.20:32
baazigarL3top, so u suggest lightspark?20:32
slackinL3top, its legit site, i wrote it from scratch and the entire source to the entire website is avail on the site itself, in the very source browser I linked ;]20:32
L3topbaazigar: I suggest giving it a try, and seeing the results... if that doesnt work for you, try gnash... I would install adobe only as last resort. It does not play nice with compiz in my experience.20:33
Dr_Willistheres  the 'flashreplacer' extension for firefox that lets you play flash videos in vlc or mplayer.20:33
Dr_Willisbrb20:34
L3topslackin: This is an ubuntu support channel... not a "try my code" channel. Most people who download things do not understand source... and it is not allowed in this channel. I mean... I have no dog in this fight... I am just telling you that it isn't allowed. I am just some dork in a chatroom helping folks.20:34
slackinL3top, its not a download link20:34
xjakubDoes anyone know how to flush the dns if nscd and networking restart don't work?20:35
wrapidsL3top: Any idea how I can turn those off?20:35
slackinits a source browser, just for information purposes20:35
baazigarL3top, Ok will install lightspark first20:35
lime_Anyone have experience with text to speech in ubuntu?  Specifically I am looking for a female voice.  espeak are all highly robotic and male in /usr/share/espeak-date/voices20:35
slackinL3top, more of an educational thing than a 'download my shit' thing20:35
L3top!language | slackin20:35
ubottuslackin: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.20:35
MonkeyDustlime_  there's a tool called speech20:35
h00k!info speech20:35
ubottuPackage speech does not exist in precise20:35
L3topslackin: It is not allowed. That is all. I am sorry if this frustrates you.20:35
L3toptry #ubuntu-offtopic slackin.20:36
wrapidsL3top: Nevermind, found it20:36
wrapidsL3top: Also it didnt change it :D20:36
slackinL3top, it does not frustrate me at all. It was an amsg to all my friends in linux related channels20:36
bjorkintoshwhat does a fresh install of ubuntu come with: alsa or pulse?20:37
L3topwas just a guess wrapids. What gpu are you using?20:37
MonkeyDusthm, speech is no longer in the repos20:37
wrapidsL3top: No idea, sec20:37
beandogbjorkintosh: pulse works on top of alsa20:38
beandogso, it'll always have alsa20:38
L3topbjorkintosh: alsa is the underlying sound manager... pulse is a layer on top of it... and 1204 comes with both I believe.20:38
bjorkintoshbeandog, pulse is a POS i just uninstalled.20:38
bjorkintoshgood riddance?20:38
s3alime_, you asked for espeak on #debian: "The variants are +m1 +m2 +m3 +m4 +m5 +m6 +m7 for male voices and +f1 +f2 +f3 +f4 which simulate female voices by using higher pitches." http://espeak.sourceforge.net/commands.html might help20:38
beandogbjorkintosh: I hear that a lot20:38
lime_Okay how about an alternative to espeak?   What does google use on translate.google.com for text to speech output?20:38
s3alime_, if that doesn't work, i don't know sorry20:38
foobArrris there a way to execute a script when initiating hibernation?20:39
wrapidsL3top: Nvidia g98m quadro nvs 16m20:39
wrapids160m*20:39
L3topwrapids: then I would look around in the nvidia-config tool for an answer. I cannot be more specific, sorry. This is a function of nvidias helper ap.20:39
bjorkintoshbrb20:39
L3toplime_: if you are blind, you might research jawz.20:40
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L3toplime_: if you are just looking for text to speech espeak is all I am aware of20:40
wrapidsL3top: It appears I can remedy the problem by making sure none of the windows edges are near the edge of the worksapce20:41
system055webcam20:41
s3alime_, i got it working in female20:41
L3topthat really sounds like sticky edges problem... but... at least you have a solution wrapids.20:41
system055audio and video error20:41
s3alime_, espeak -v +f1 "hello"20:41
wrapidshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/77643520:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 776435 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Window maximizes on the wrong workspace" [Medium,Triaged]20:41
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s3alime_, it seems the higher the integer the more feminin20:42
s3alime_, tell me if it works20:42
s3afor you20:42
L3top!details | system05520:42
ubottusystem055: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."20:42
lime_s3a: Yeah the +f1 options work20:43
s3alime_, yay :)20:44
s3atry +f2 +f3 etc20:44
lime_hm... Just sounds fairly robotic20:44
lime_ it seems translate.google.com sounds more natural if you try the same text, wonder what they are using?20:45
s3alime_, well the male voices are robotic too! lol20:45
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lime_Yeah the males voices sound if more robotic to me ;)20:46
Dr_willislime_,  now to make it into an IRC client script. ;P20:47
s3alime_, by the way, I just tried and clicking on the speaker icon on translate.google.com doesn't make any sound whatsoever20:47
alexThunderL3top: do you think, that there actually is some way to get the 7970m working?20:47
s3alime_, do you have to do something else too?20:47
s3a(other than type text) :D20:47
lime_yeah pushing irc to the speech tool would be cool ;)20:48
lime_s3a: What do you mean?20:48
L3topalexThunder: I dunno. I hate these hybrid cards... and none of the major manufacturers have ANY sort of support in linux... they just couldn't care less.20:48
s3atranslate.google.com i put some text to translate english to english and then i clicked the speaker that has the tooltip text "listen" and it doesn't say anything20:48
s3alime_, you can probably make a script that reads the logs and reads them using espeak20:49
alexThunderi hate them too, but it's hard to find notebooks without them these days :/20:49
L3topalexThunder: ANY solution is just going to be a hack, and come from hacking it... and the only solutions that exist will not use the proprietary driver... this is indicative of the challenge ahead of you.20:49
lime_Probably I'm going to set it up to tell me emails, contact, time info, maybe read books, wake me up in the morning, who knows ;)20:49
lime_s3a: Do you have flash installed?20:50
s3alime_, o that's why; i have gnash20:50
s3aand lightspark20:50
s3a(open source flash)20:50
s3ai mean that could be why20:50
s3ai'll test on a windows system later20:50
alexThunderhmpf20:50
L3topI believe you are going to be stuck going to vga-switcheroo and using the radeon, hopefully with improved support as time passes.20:51
JZAhi this should be an easy answer but is prooving to be a pain, I have a virtual machine with ubuntu, and I want to strip down any non useful software.20:51
lime_s3a: he you go this should work http://translate.google.com/translate_tts?ie=UTF-8&q=How%20are%20you%20guys%20doing%3F&tl=en&total=1&idx=0&textlen=23&prev=input20:51
Dr_willishttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashvideoreplacer/  Replace embedded flash videos and display them with a different plugin or standalone player,     - I rarely even install flash these days. ;)20:51
JZAI want to get rid of gnome, however when I tried sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop it start download a bunch of KDE packages :S20:51
JZAI also rather have a very basic Xorg with maybe a windowmaker or something smaller. Any advice?20:52
slackinJZA, I love XFCE420:52
JZAI only need x to launch a browser and help me test the php site I am doing there.20:52
L3topJZA: I was also going to recommend xfce.20:52
slackinJZA, then set your browser as your 'shell' or whatever20:53
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slackinthen you close the browser and X closes too20:53
Dr_willisJZA,  just use jwm  :) and perhaps a login manager.20:53
JZAslackin: right, my problem has to do with Gnome uninstalling.20:53
Dr_willisworking without a window manager can be.. annoying.20:53
JZAslackin: why is it downloading a bunch of kdelibs?20:53
JZAI only put apt-get remove --purge gnome-desktop20:53
Dr_willis!info gnome-desktop20:54
ubottuPackage gnome-desktop does not exist in precise20:54
Dr_willismakes me wonder what you are removeing.. ;)20:54
slackinJZA, I can't answer why ubuntu does what it does. I try not to use ubuntu20:54
L3topwhat version of ubuntu are you on JZA?20:54
JZA11 something20:54
JZAI think 11.420:54
Dr_willis!version20:54
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »20:54
s3alime_, it doesn't work. it must be because i'm sticking to the open source tools but thanks. like, i said, i'll check on windows to make sure later.20:54
L3topJZA: lsb_release -sc20:54
engstadWhere do I find libqt4-multimedia in precise?20:54
Dr_willis!find libqt4-multimedia20:55
ubottuPackage/file libqt4-multimedia does not exist in precise20:55
JZAL3top: natty20:55
brett__how can I  create a bootable usb stick in ubuntu from a  windows iso ?20:55
engstadFor some reason it was removed - no idea why...20:56
brett__its from old disk of xp20:56
brett__cd rom died20:56
Dr_willisbrett__,  you may want to ask in #windows i THINK with some versions of windows you can 'dd' the image file to the flash20:56
L3topthe answer, JZA is likely due to that fact that certain libraries are required in order for the OS to work, and it is clear you do not want the G, so it goes for K... this is my best guess.20:56
Dr_willisxp? No idea. it may need some extra tools.20:56
JZAright, this is what I put sudo apt-get –purge remove liborbit220:56
JZAL3top: so what can I do to get rid of them all?20:56
Dr_willisJZA,  it may be --purge20:56
JZAis a vm...20:57
engstadThe odd thing is that latest QT source includes the multimedia library...20:57
L3topJZA... I some of these things are going to be required regardless... either on the G or the K side. Removing both is going to render the OS unusable and broken.20:57
JZADr_willis: what did purge do?20:57
brett__thnx dr_willis one would think it is easy to do?20:57
JZAL3top: so what can I do?20:57
Dr_willisJZA,  purge removes all system configs. even ones you edited.20:58
Dr_willisbrett__,  totally depends on your needs..  what are you trying to acomplish exactly?20:58
L3topJZA: let it install the K libraries. It is not the desktop.20:58
engstadDr_willis: Is there a mailing-list/forum for qt-dev (I'd like to learn the reason for removing it).20:59
brett__just want to install legacy xp from a cd I created an image of ages ago, as my cd is broke, I have an old hd, just want an old version of windows (xp 64) installed so kids n gf can use it as they cannot fathom unity other than using a browser20:59
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JZAL3top: KDE is also pretty heavy, what can I do to get rid of a desktop environment?20:59
Dr_willisengstad,  no idea. I dont do kde much any more.20:59
L3topit will not install KDE JZA.20:59
engstadDr_willis: Ah well, I'll try to compile QT from source...20:59
Dr_willisbrett__,  no idea really. Id have to say check #windows or some googling. I seem to recall some tools that might work in wine to put an xp iso on flash.21:00
L3topJZA: purge gnome-desktop and install xfce4... you will not end up on kubuntu...lol... promise.21:00
brett__ah good idea Dr_willis21:01
JZAL3top: I dont want xfce421:01
JZAI need something lightweight like icewm21:01
JZAor windowmaker21:01
beandogicewm is pretty light weight21:01
engstadxmonad?21:01
JZAlike I said I dont need a DE21:02
engstadxmonad is a tiled wm, very lightweight.21:02
beandogyou could use evilwm21:02
beandogthat's about as light as it gets.21:02
Dr_willis!info jwm21:02
ubottujwm (source: jwm): very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (precise), package size 108 kB, installed size 270 kB21:02
Dr_willis!info evilwm21:02
ubottuevilwm (source: evilwm): a minimalist window manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1 (precise), package size 29 kB, installed size 92 kB21:02
JZAbut it beat the porpouse if the OS auto-install KDE onthe background.21:02
Dr_willisId stick with Jwm. :)21:02
L3topit is NOT INSTALLING KDE21:02
beandog92k, freak21:02
JZAL3top: well I am seen downloading akonadi21:03
engstadWhoah, that's pretty minimal. :-)21:03
JZAright now21:03
L3topit is installing the K libraries that are being ripped out as depends of gnome-desktop21:03
beandogdo aptitude -s <foo> to see what it would do21:03
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L3topJZA did this start out as a kubuntu install?21:05
JZAL3top: is taking forever, hasnt really finish installing, I am just reading the packages.21:05
L3topJZA it NEEDS a database to handle applications... you have said you want nothing to do with gnome... so it is alternatively installing akonadi to handle this fundamental requirement of the operating system... is my assumption.21:06
L3topYou would only end up with KDE if it was installed to begin with and you overlayed gnome... that is all that makes sense to me21:07
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JZAL3top: so going back to my original goal, how can I get rid of the Desktop environment and leave X alone?21:07
L3topwhat you are doing. When it is done, I expect you will reboot to a terminal prompt.21:08
JZAL3top: yes but I want to free space21:08
JZAI am using this as a tomcat server, I am not really interested in having LibreOffice and KDE, feel me?21:08
engstadMy not-so-technical way is to just remove all gnome and kde stuff, and then add say rxvt or xterm.21:08
DrShoggothis there any way to get quicktime chapters in totem?21:09
* L3top doesn't know what else to say.21:09
L3topYou should not have EITHER of those as a result of this.21:09
DrShoggothor, is there any video player that supports quicktime chapters?21:09
beandogwhy do you even want X21:09
beandogif you're just doing a headless server21:09
guntbertJZA: and why do you need a GUI at all?21:09
beandogjust remove xorg-server ... that'd drop a lot. :)21:09
JZAguntbert: because I dont need the remote network, I want to be able to shoot a browser to test the site.21:10
L3topthere are FUNDAMENTAL requirements for the OS. Some of those things will start with a K. That doesnt mean you are installing KDE.21:10
JZAguntbert: I know I can do it remotely but... still same applies, I dont need KDE or Gnome.21:10
beandogJZA: are you saying you want to use remote X11 connections to this box?21:10
JZAL3top: ok if you say so, but I know KDE and I see it installing kcalc :(21:10
JZAbeandog: except I said not21:10
beandogJZA: well you said you want a browser ... I assume you meant running *on that box*21:11
beandogSo if you don't need X ... rip it out21:11
JZAbeandog: correct21:11
beandogthat'll solve all your problems21:11
L3top... well... that would be strange JZE. I ask again... did this start out as a Kubuntu install?21:11
beandogo.O21:11
JZAbeandog: well a browser will demand X unless I have elinks or something like that21:11
guntbertJZA: in my opinion that setup is strange - use another machine to monitor/manage it, tomcat uses all ressources it can get :)21:11
JZAL3top: no I only put one command21:11
beandogCan't you use your browser on your local box?21:11
L3topthat does not answer my question JZA.21:11
L3topwhen you installed this operating system... what image did you do it from JZA?21:12
JZAL3top: this is an ubuntu gnome install, I dunno where u take out kubuntu21:12
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L3topI didnt take out anything. I asked a question.21:12
JZAL3top: after putting the --purge remove liborbit2 kcalc start downloading21:12
beandogJZA: So, confirm for me, yes or no: You are going to use a remote X11 connection from your local desktop, to connect to the remote server, to run a web browser on that remote server?21:13
JZAbeandog: you are makign this difficult, I am doing an apppliance with X and a browser, nothing else.21:14
beandogJZA: WHERE are you running X?  locally or remotely?  That's what I'm asking21:14
JZAbeandog: no remote x1121:14
beandogOkay21:14
beandogthanks21:14
beandogSo if you don't need remote X11, then remove it completely21:14
JZAbeandog: I am not sure where u took remote X11, I only said I know I can do that, but I rather not.21:14
beandogOr you could just leave everything on there, and just shut down the window manager21:15
beandogthat'd probably be the simplest, easiest, fastest way to get what you want21:15
JZAbeandog: right now I am not dealing with that, I have KDE installing for no aparent reason.21:15
L3tophe wants to reclaim space... and not reinstall... is what I am gathering.21:15
beandogL3top: ah21:15
beandogJZA: remove x11, completely21:16
beandogyou don't need it21:16
JZAbeandog: and how will I start a browser in the VM?21:16
beandogoh.  my.  crap.21:16
* beandog gives up21:16
L3topyeah.21:16
* L3top is out too21:16
beandogsorry dude, I am completely lost.21:17
JZAbeandog: how difficult is to understand I need apache-tomcat-x11-firefox nothign else.21:17
reedmy kern.log grew over 7Gb with this message repeated every second: Either the lower file is not in a valid eCryptfs format, or the key could not be retrieved. Plaintext passthrough mode is not enabled; returning -EIO21:18
reedideas?21:18
reedmore than once a second, actually21:18
beandogJZA: I don't understand what you're trying to do, so at this point, just do what L3top said.21:18
genii-aroundJZA: Are you trying to make the equivelent of an internet kiosk?21:19
JZAbeandog: I just said it21:19
JZAbeandog: how difficult is to understand I need apache-tomcat-x11-firefox nothign else.21:19
beandogPretty difficult when you throw in virtual box.21:19
JZAbeandog: is a virtual appliance, so is running in virutalbox21:19
beandogAnd not saying WHICH box needs WHAT software.21:19
beandoganyway21:19
beandogwhatevs.21:19
JZAbeandog: we are only talking about 121:19
JZAbeandog: there is no 'which'21:20
beandogYou said it's a remote server!21:20
JZAbeandog: I never said that, you said that21:20
beandogwhich means, you have a desktop to access said remote server21:20
beandogoh my crap21:20
beandogokay I'm done.21:20
JZAbeandog: forget about a remote server21:20
beandogJZA: aptitude -y remove xorg; aptitude -y install firefox21:20
beandogdone21:20
guntbertJZA: in VMs: use one for tomcat and another one for managing it21:21
beandogactually that wouldn't do it, xorg isn't enough21:21
Katelynokay, so uh21:21
beandogbah21:21
L3topbeandog: why don't you just do a fresh install of ubuntu server and add on whatever minimal X requirements you have from there?21:21
Katelynmy usb 3.0 slot doesn't want to work at all21:21
L3toper JZA sorry.21:21
beandogL3top: yes!21:21
beandoggood idea21:21
beandog:D21:21
Katelynusing ubuntu 12.04 x6421:21
JZAL3top: the VM is already set up21:21
guntbertJZA: and please mind your attitude towards people who try to help you21:22
JZAL3top: I am not re-cofnigure all the custom crap in it21:22
kevinlu310Anybody know how to have ubuntu 12.04 synchronize time correctly?21:22
beandogthere's gotta be some package you can rip out that'd take all the X11 packages with it.21:22
guntbertkevinlu310: use ntp21:22
JZAL3top: only thing I need is to get rid of the useless fat of this vm, hence Gnome and LibreOfficee and all the rest of the gnome apps21:22
beandogOkay21:23
beandogSo, starting over21:23
beandog*why* do you need to remove it21:23
beandogHard drive space?  or RAM21:23
JZAbeandog: the VM is too big21:23
beandog^^ answer the question :B21:23
JZAI did21:23
beandogdon't rephrase the question and then answer *that*21:23
Katelynmy usb 3.0 slot doesn't want to work at all21:24
kevinlu310guntbert: I tried ntp. But I still have wrong time on screen21:24
Katelynusing ubuntu 12.04 x6421:24
Katelyn(sorry for repeating myself)21:24
beandogJZA: please, just give one-word answers: do you want to free up HDD or RAM?21:24
JZAdisk21:24
beandogOkay21:24
beandogJZA: do you want firefox on this vm?21:24
ironhoofSeems like your using a desktop edition as a server, I think that would be best suited to a server edition, or a tiny distro of sorts. Without a desktop environment.21:24
JZAyes21:24
beandogJZA: okay, if firefox is installed, it's *going* to suck in X11 dependencies, and probably a lot ... I know it needs *some* GNOME Libraries (someone correct me if I'm wrong)21:25
beandogJZA: so either way, you're going to have some stuff on there21:25
guntbertkevinlu310: what does ntpq -p say?21:25
beandogJZA: but that's neither here nor there ... try doing something like removing gnome-desktop package21:25
beandogJZA: don't worry about what it installs in it's place for now21:26
newman2hi i want to make an online radio server. i have the internet dj console but i cant use it .can you help me?21:26
beandogJZA: if you want to see *what that will do*, then run 'sudo aptitude -ys remove gnome-desktop'21:26
JZAbeandog: so far it hasnt stop since I launcht that option21:26
JZAcommand21:26
beandogJZA: in fact, if you could pastebin the output of that (use nopaste) that'd be really helpful21:26
genii-aroundL3top: Should just make an ubuntu-minimal vm, tasksel to install lamp and tomcat, then apt-get -o APT::Install-Recommends=0 xorg firefox, maybe twm too. Then firefox & in xsession21:26
beandogJZA: that's okay, you can kill it with Ctl C21:26
auronandacegenii-around: +121:27
marckociao21:30
kevinlu310guntbert: Things like this:   some IPs   .INIT.             16    u      -      64    0     0.000     0.000     0.00021:30
beandogJZA: how's it going man,  you doing okay?21:30
JZAstill uninstalling21:30
beandogkk21:31
kevinlu310guntbert: looks all delays, offsets and jitters are zero21:31
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guntbertkevinlu310: not good, please !pastebin your /etc/ntp.conf21:32
taime1what command will tell me what video driver X is using?21:32
m477is it ok to use same /home for two other distros?21:32
ironhoofI am helping a friend get linux on his machine he's first time user, and he couldnt get his USB mic to work, I had him go into his log , and we got this error: [  106.890252] 5:3:3: cannot set freq 16000 to ep 0x86 ,would anyone have any idea on it, its a QuickCam Orbit it seems a UVC 1.0 device21:33
kevinlu310guntbert: I did everything by following steps showing here http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/04/30/time-synchronization-on-ubuntu-12-04lts-using-ntp/21:33
genii-aroundm477: I would recommend no, I've tried this before.21:33
Dr_willistaime1,    you using nvidia? ati? what? theres the X logs in /var/log/  that will show21:33
m477genii-around: and what happend?21:33
taime1Dr_willis: nvidia21:34
taime1but i just want to know which one is in use at the mment21:34
lbokenjust a little question . if livecd version of ubuntu work usualy it should work fine once installed isn't21:34
Dr_willistaime1,  id run the nvidia-settings tool and see if it says what one its using.21:34
genii-aroundm477: The cache files get all screwed up21:34
kenperkinsso what command does upstart stop send21:34
kenperkinsit doesn't appear to be a sigterm21:34
Dr_willislboken,  you want to rephrase that question.. since.. well its not a question.. or very clear.21:34
beandogkenperkins: I was wondering the same thing earlier today.  no idea.21:34
kevinlu310guntbert: I pasted it pastebin.com/jkQ80jWz21:35
kenperkinsbecause it doesn't appear to be sigterm. when I kill my pid, I see my expected sigterm output in my logs21:35
kenperkinsbut nothing from upstart stop21:35
kenperkinsbeandog: oh yeA?21:35
beandogI wish more daemons had shutdown arguments21:35
beandogbut whatever.21:35
beandogI also wish I had a unicorn.21:35
Dr_willis!upstart21:36
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/21:36
lime_Anyone have any experience with festival?21:36
Dr_willisI thought part of the upstart standard was the service was supposed to have start/stop/restart21:36
beandogfwiw, that upstart page is really confusing21:36
genii-aroundDr_willis: The problem seems to be most post-install scripts are still trying update-rc.d21:36
beandogDr_willis: it does, but it still sends a signal to the processes21:36
Dr_willisIts geared more towards developers :) I dont understand half of it..21:36
beandogDr_willis: I'm talking more about something like ... mysqld_safe --quit21:36
lbokenDr_willis:  i mean that when if i can run ubuntu live cd  doesnt that mean that it should work fine if i install it  on my hdd , cause i tried 2 time to install it today on my machine and in live cd its working but when i install it  i dont get the grub display and when it  on linux its alot slower and freeze all the time   what could be the trouble?21:37
lime_I'm trying to install alternative voices but keep running into issues with the installation tutorial when following this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75116921:37
Dr_willisthe rc.x stuff is actually a series of upstart scripts also from what i dug into. :)21:37
guntbertkevinlu310: that tutorial looks ok, you can see the failure in the column "reach" - all 0, please !pastebin your /etc/ntp.conf21:37
lime_well actually everything installs fine the voices just don't work after the installation21:37
kenperkinsbeandog: looks like it's SIGQUIT21:37
Dr_willislboken,  if grub works but you cant see it. You need to set a proper res, or use the old skool text menu option in /etc/default/grub.21:37
beandogkenperkins: where'd you find it?21:38
Dr_willislboken,  step #1 after installing would be to double check that all updates are installed.21:38
m477genii-around: do you mean files with configurations etc which start folders start with dot?21:39
lbokenits hard to double check if the updates are installed it frose completly ( i try to run a software (example quassel irc  and it wont launch  i tryed even to run the disk partition software to check my swap(cause 2nd time i used the option use full disk completely  and its still does the same21:40
kevinlu310guntbert: http://pastebin.com/gdJzL4iT21:40
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aetoxxHow do I disable the bluetooth daemon?21:41
aetoxxI cannot uninstall it because some software depends on it.21:42
aetoxx/etc/default/bluetooth used to exist, but it doesn't anymore.21:42
guntbertkevinlu310: looks correct, please type sudo service ntp stop ,   then    sudo ntpdate, what does it say?21:42
genii-aroundm477: I mean for instance files like cache-hostname socket-hostname tmp-hostname in /home/user/.kde  ( specifically the problemmatic ones for me )21:42
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kenperkinsbeandog: trial and error21:44
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kenperkinswikipedia to be honest21:44
kenperkinshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGTERM21:44
beandoglol21:44
beandognice21:44
erveinwow21:46
erveinthis is good21:46
kevinlu310guntbert: it says 13 Jul 13:44:36 ntpdate[2316]: no servers can be used, exiting. The time is wrong.21:46
guntbertkevinlu310:  try ping 0.us.pool.ntp.org (break with ctrl+c)21:47
kevinlu310guntbert: looks connection is OK. 14 transmitted. 0% packet loss21:49
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guntbertkevinlu310: do you have a firewall enabled?21:50
aetoxxHello?21:51
kevinlu310guntbert: I'm not sure. I will try to figure it at home out tonight. I got to leave now. Thanks a lot for your help, anyway.21:51
c001If I'm downloading Ubuntu version 10.x, which is more recommended?  10.4 or 10.10?21:58
c001Is Ubuntu 8.04 no longer supported?21:58
MonkeyDustc001  idd21:58
genii-aroundc001: Recommend 10.04 since later you can go 10.04-12.04 directly21:58
MonkeyDustc001  and 10.10 is no longer supported21:59
bekksc001: It is still supported.21:59
TheLordOfTimec001:  10.10 is EOL, so if you're using the 10.x series, use 10.0421:59
TheLordOfTimeor use 12.0421:59
bekksAnd you can upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 to 12.0421:59
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MonkeyDustor fresh install 12.04 and create a separate /home partition22:01
TheLordOfTimethat too22:01
urlwolfusing kubuntu, networkmanager fails to connect to my howe network.22:02
urlwolflooking at /var/sys/log...22:02
urlwolfusing WPA personal. The password is correct22:03
urlwolfis there a known bug?22:03
Dr_willisurlwolf,  check the bug reports yet?  ive heard of issues with some wirless cards/drivers and some auth methods.22:03
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  are you using knetworkmanager, or network-manager-kde?22:04
urlwolfwhere are the bug reports?22:04
Dr_willis!bugs22:04
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  if you're using network-manager-kde, it should work, last i checked22:04
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.22:04
urlwolfI'm using whatever comes with kde by default22:05
urlwolfjust installed network-manager-kde22:05
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TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  see if that fixes it22:08
urlwolfabout network-manager-kde, muon says "his is a dummy transitional package for plasma-widget-networkmanagement. You may safely remove it."22:08
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  and this is why i dont like muon.  true, it is a transitional package, but it *might* fix the issue22:08
Dr_willisKDE is moving towards Sub-atomic partical names now? ;P22:09
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  there was another issue like the one you mentioned reported on Ask Ubuntu.  They tested network-manager-kde (which was the plasma widget), and it appeared to work22:09
* Dr_willis thinks he rembers his physics..22:09
quesadano, it doesn't fix it22:10
quesadarunning kernel 3.4.4-030404-generic in case that matters22:11
quesadawireless works at the office, but not at home with WPA personal22:11
Dr_williswhat sort of authencation does the office use? WPA personal also?22:12
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urlwolfnope, WPA enterprise22:12
urlwolfthe support guys told me there was a long-standing bug in WPA personal22:13
urlwolfthe solution was to use WPA enterprise, but I cannot use WPA enterprise at home22:14
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  there's a bug in WPA enterprise i think... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/networkmanagement/+bug/86353622:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 863536 in networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "Connecting to WPA2-PSK Enterprise WLAN not possible" [Undecided,New]22:14
Dr_willisyou got a low end home router that cant do  it?22:14
TheLordOfTimethat's one of about ten i see22:14
ickefeshi guys22:14
urlwolfDr_willis: alice router WLAN 142122:15
xgionxsa22:15
Dr_willisthat name means nothing to me. :)22:15
ickefesi have a sound problem that started recently. when anything loads or happens on the screen, I can hear crackling noise. even if sound is muted. do you know why this happens? it does not do so in windows and puppy linux22:16
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  apparently this isnt a *new* issue, i'm trying to see if such a bug you're saying has been reported.22:16
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urlwolfit worked before22:16
urlwolfmight be the unconventional kernel (ubuntu 12.04 is 3.3.0 I think)22:17
dyingprismipconfig22:17
ickefesthe problem goes away if i remove the external power cord and only use the battery22:17
Dr_willisurlwolf,  might be worth testing in a 12.10 live cd(beta) to see if it works there.22:17
bastidrazor12.04 is 3.2.0-26 at the moment22:17
urlwolfor I could upgrade the kernel to 3.522:18
Dr_willisIm not really sure how it could be kernel related.22:18
ickefesanyone?22:18
casper_slm22:18
urlwolfme neither22:18
urlwolfI have a sabayon partition22:19
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  is the ssid of the network hidden?22:19
urlwolfno, I can see the ssid22:19
beandogickefes: yah, I've had that happen ... it also happens when the hdd goes fast22:19
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  i meant is it hidden to the public, but...22:20
beandogickefes: I just got a PCI sound card and used that instead of the onboard one. :T22:20
ickefesbeandog: how come it only happens in Ubuntu and not in Windows and Puppy Linux?22:20
urlwolfI have no idea, probably not, it's whatever came as default22:20
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ickefesIf I remember correctly, it did not happen in Ubuntu a week ago.22:20
beandogickefes: if I had to *guess*, I'd say different kernel and drivers22:20
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urlwolfI can live without wireless22:22
urlwolfbut these things only happen on linux22:22
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  you may want to file a bug about it, you know22:22
beandogI'd check forums first22:22
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urlwolf"I have no <insert basic infrastructure that works without thinking on other OS>; oh well, I'll just work without it" :)22:23
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  "I have no common sense"?  (JUST KIDDING)22:24
Jordan_U!ot22:24
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:24
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  it does sound like a bug in the program, but i've checked upstream and LP, i cant find anything truly specific matching your issue22:25
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  does this bug look similar to what you're running into for enterprise?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/networkmanagement/+bug/86353622:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 863536 in networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "Connecting to WPA2-PSK Enterprise WLAN not possible" [Undecided,New]22:26
TheLordOfTimeurlwolf:  i'd recommend filing a bug for wpa personal though22:26
TheLordOfTimeand if they're using WPA and not WPA2, they're doing it wrong.22:26
hanninghey, i am looking for up-to-date information on getting hw accelerated flash working on ati-chipsets, any help would be great. :)22:28
urlwolfI've reported ~150 bugs on sabayon22:28
urlwolfnot many on ubuntu22:28
urlwolfbut the ubuntu ones never get resolved22:28
Dr_willishanning,  best advice i have for 'flash' is use  one of those flashreplacer extensions in firefox. so you dont need flash at all on most video sites.22:28
urlwolfso I don't think I'll spend my time doing it anymore22:29
tworkin1what package allows me to build modules on precise? This Makefile expects a /lib/modules/`uname ...`/build22:31
Dr_willisHmm.22:32
Dr_willis!modules22:32
ubottuTo compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard kernel,  for more info /msg ubottu kernel  , install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see /msg ubottu blacklist22:32
tworkin1what? I'm writing a module. I need to be able to #include <linux/mm.h> etc22:33
tworkin1ubottu? ...22:34
tworkin1oh, u bot. k22:34
Nuclear-muffin27If i use nano to do a script where is the file stored?22:34
TheLordOfTimeNuclear-muffin27:  by default, the current working directory22:34
Dr_willisNuclear-muffin27,  whever you saved the file to...22:34
Nuclear-muffin27ok22:34
Dr_willisyou may want to keep your own scripts in /home/USERNAME/bin22:34
trismtworkin1: install the linux-headers package for your kernel22:35
merp_Hi all!22:35
merp_I was wondering if there was a VFX program like Adobe AfterEffects (a very widely used one) for ubuntu.22:36
tworkin1trism:  thanks22:36
merp_I can't seem to manage to install jahshaka22:36
Nuclear-muffin27thank you22:36
merp_And OpenShot is not enough.22:36
merp_Any ideas?22:36
merp_No? ^.^'22:37
hanningDr_willis: thanks :)22:37
genii-aroundmerp_: avidemux or cinelerra22:37
merp_I can't figure out how to install cinelerra and avidemux is too simple.22:38
merp_Any help on cinelerra, though?22:38
genii-aroundmerp_: https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa22:39
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merp_Hm. Well. Never seen that before =P.22:40
merp_installed ppa, now what?22:41
dagrovesI need to get my wireless working on Xubuntu 12.04 and I have no idea how to do it. I need the correct driver but I have no internet access on my linux hdd... what should I do or download to get it to work?22:42
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bwat47dagroves: depends on what your wireless card is22:45
dagrovesI have a TP-LINK TL-WN727N Wireless Adapeter and TP-LINK does not have a linux driver on their website22:45
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bazhangdagroves, it's usb? check lsusb in terminal and put to paste.ubuntu.com22:46
bwat47dagroves: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11577750&postcount=222:47
genii-arounddagroves: The useful thing is to have it's vendor:device string, which if it is USB to get from lsub command.. if pci to get from lspci -nn command22:47
narcosOK I give up - how do I get java to work in Firefox on 64bit Ubuntu 10.04?22:47
dagrovesokay you will have to hang on then I am booted into my WIndows HDD at the moment. Let me boot into the Xubuntu HDD and do that and I will post it back22:47
dagrovesI shall be right back22:48
jQrHi. I'm about to turn on smartd on system startup (That's smart-notifier, no?) but the following is worrying me and I'm not sure what it means: "Don't use enable_smart for any disk monitored by smartd, this is likely to cause problems..."22:50
donvitocan anyone tell me how to switch off system problems report?22:54
dagrovesOkay here is what lsusb says about my wireless adapter http://paste.ubuntu.com/1090692/22:54
bwat47donvito: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/how-to-get-rid-of-internal-system-error.html22:54
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bwat47dagroves: you try this yet? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11577750&postcount=222:56
dagrovesbwat47: trying that now22:57
silverarrowdoes anyone know about gnash or lightspark?22:58
Logan_!anyone | silverarrow22:58
ubottusilverarrow: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.22:58
silverarrowgnash packages are default, but lightspark is sort of on your own, I need and alternative for flash22:59
bekksBecause...?22:59
silverarrowI cannot use adobe22:59
OerHekssilverarrow, for your PPC iBook ?23:00
silverarrowit seems to be either gnash or lightspark, yes23:00
silverarrowyes, my ibook heks23:00
silverarrowthought I have problem finding anyone using either gnash or lightspark23:01
silverarrowOerHeks: do you have any idea=23:02
OerHekssilverarrow, nope, did you check the mactel pages?23:02
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silverarrowno, only the ppc ubuntu FAC23:02
silverarrowFAQ23:02
silverarrowsorry23:02
silverarrowso very little knowledge about gnash23:03
ZyewniI have at least two questions, maybe more. Question 1: How do I get Photoshop running in Ubuntu 12.04?23:04
silverarrowwine?23:04
OerHeksZyewni, check wine & winHQ database23:04
OerHeks!wine23:04
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu23:04
macaZyewni, Why do not use gimp? it is very good23:04
genii-aroundZyewni: Photoshop does not run natively on Linux, etc23:05
ZyewniI've tried Wine. First, I tried migrating my Windows install based on a tutorial I found online - wine says invalid parameters. Then I tried installing it through PlayOnLinux - wine still says invalid parameters.23:05
macaGimp is a great program for manipulate pictures...23:05
macaTry to install gimp23:05
Zyewni@maca: GIMP just doesn't do it for me23:05
macaWhy?23:06
dagrovesbwat47: I did both of those commands and it worked great but let me restart my computer and I'll see if it works, Then I will get back to you my good sire.23:06
Zyewni@maca: without going too much into it, I've been using Photoshop since I was a young'un. That's the software I know. I know where the tools I want are, and I know what the keyboard shortcuts are. So I'd prefer to use that.23:07
OerHeksZyewni, check wineHQ and maybe winetricks, a bunch of scripts for dotnet and stuff23:07
Dr_williswine -options /path/to/whatever.exe  :)  time to learn the parameters i guess23:07
macaWhy do you want use Photoshop and not gimp? Is there something tool missed on gimp?23:07
macaok23:07
macaa read it23:07
macaIn Linux you must learn  a lot of things, if not, come back to Windows if you dont want learn new things23:08
Zyewni@maca: I came here for help, not to be put down for my choice in software23:08
macaOk...23:08
macabut it isn't easy to run Photoshop on wine... as like AutoCAD...23:09
macaso...23:09
macaI think that you followed some manuals, really?23:10
macaWhat version of Photoshop you have?23:10
Zyewni@OerHeks, I'll check that out, thanks23:11
Zyewni@Dr_willis: I'll do that23:11
Zyewni@maca: I don't understand your question about the manuals, and I have CS5 on my Windows 7 system23:11
macamanuls for follow to a correct configuration to run on wine... sorry by my poor english, i'm spain...23:12
icerootZyewni: i would suggest to use "playonlinux" which is able to install photoshop on ubuntu 12.0423:12
macawait, a will see ...23:13
icerootZyewni: playonlinux is a tool which is configuring the correct wine version automaticly23:13
Zyewni@iceroot, I just got done with my third attempt to install it with playonlinux23:13
ZyewniStill says 'Invalid Parameters'23:13
Zyewni@maca: yes, I was following a tutorial23:14
macalook that link: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2015823:14
icerootZyewni: then i dont know, i am not using photoshop and never tried to install it, juust saw an entry on playonlinux23:14
Zyewni@maca: that would be the first tutorial I followed, when I tried to migrate my Windows 7 installation23:14
macaok23:14
ZyewniThank you for the link all the same though23:14
icerootZyewni: but its always good to use free software instead, gimp is running on every system and its not taking down your freedom, so maybe give gimp a try23:15
dagrovesokay as for it working, when I rebooted my pc I had to do those commands again to get my wireless working again... i need a permanent fix! lol or should the updates help?23:15
macaiceroot, he don't want use gimp23:15
Zyewni@iceroot: I have given GIMP a try. It's a good program, but my preference is Photoshop23:15
ZyewniForce of habit23:15
genii-aroundThere is also of course gimpshop which makes it more familiar for Photoshop users to use23:15
ZyewniNow that might be interesting23:16
icerootZyewni: one of the goals of ubuntu is to spreed free software (as in free speech) so i respect that you are more familiar with photoshop but of course we will always suggest free software instead :)23:17
ZyewniSo I will check out the things recommended by OerHeks and Dr_willis, and if I can't get that running, I'll try out Gimpsho23:17
Zyewni*Gimpshop23:17
macaI lost your problem... please, can you post again the full problem that appear to you when you try to run?23:17
dagrovesbwat47: anymore suggestions?23:17
Zyewni@maca: Are you talking to me?23:18
macayes23:18
Zyewnione second...23:19
Trick140quit23:19
dagrovesbwat47: It did work, but it "resets" everytime I reboot, I have to enter that command again and again...23:20
Trick140QUIT23:20
bwat47dagroves: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11577750#post1157775023:20
bwat47dagroves: sorry wrong link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11578880&postcount=523:21
dagrovesbwat47: haha thats okay, ill check it out23:22
Zyewni@maca:23:22
ZyewniWine program crash23:22
ZyewniInternal errors -invalid parameters received23:22
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dagrovesbwat47: so in that file I remove every thing listed in the blacklist.conf file?23:23
dagrovesbwat47: scared I will screw something up lol23:23
macaOnly that, Zyewni?23:24
Zyewni@maca: I just got something new. I went to the directory and just right-clicked it and 'run with wine' or whatever the text is23:25
RobtygartHow can I tell if my 3d graphics are working, I just installed nouveau23:25
ZyewniNow it says: Wine could not find a Gecko package which is needed for applications embedding HTML to work correctly. Wine can automatically download and install it for you. Note: it is recommended to use your distribution's packages instead.23:25
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ZyewniI'm going to try continuing with the install, see where it goes23:26
macaok23:26
bwat47dagroves: dont do anything to the blacklist, he was referring to the stuff he tried in the OP23:26
macafollow these23:26
bwat47you didnt do that so you dont need to remove them23:26
Zyewni@maca, whereabouts in Spain are you?23:27
dagrovesbwat47: okay then so I need to add the rt2800usb to modules? how would I do that? I have no idea what I am doing here? lol23:27
ZyewniArgh, still23:27
ZyewniWine program crash23:27
ZyewniInternal errors - invalid parameters received23:27
macayes23:27
macaI'm from Madrid...23:27
ZyewniCool23:28
ZyewniI'm just over in France23:28
ZyewniUp by Belgium23:28
macasorry, I don't know what happening...23:28
macagreat place to live...23:28
ZyewniNot bad23:28
macaI don't have Photoshop nor Windows 7... so23:29
macaI cant23:29
macaok23:29
bwat47dagroves: echo rt5370rt2800usb >> /etc/modules23:29
bwat47sorry typo23:29
bwat47echo rt2800usb >> /etc/modules23:29
macaZyewni, try to post your problem on http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20158, may be someone can help you to resolve...23:30
macaok?23:30
dagrovesbwat47: now it is telling me "bash: /etc/modules: Permission Denied23:30
dagrovesI even did sudo...23:31
Zyewni@maca, I may do that, thanks23:31
macaFantastic23:31
bwat47use sudo23:31
genii-aroundecho whatever | sudo tee -a /someplace-regular-user/can't/write23:31
genii-arounddagroves: ^23:31
bwat47^23:31
ZyewniSo, another question. If the latest version of GIMP is 2.8, why am I stuck with 2.6? I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it from the software center, but I still get 2.623:32
Zyewni(One of my problems with Gimp is the separate windows - GIMP 2.8 has a one-window mode, so I want to try that)23:32
dagrovesbwat47: okay I did what genii-around said and I am assuming it workd. only way to find out is to restart correct? or am I missing a step?23:33
macatry to download and install via console, from the original gimp web23:33
genii-aroundZyewni: 2.8 will be available after 12.10 release, but not currently with 12.04 .. eventually there may be a backport23:33
bwat47yea what that did was load the correct module on boot so restarting will test if it worked23:34
Zyewni@genii-around: that's very strange23:34
dagrovesbwat47: okay I shall restart and see if it worked!23:34
ZyewniOk, so on to my next question, which has nothing to do with Photoshop or GIMP23:35
beandogheh23:35
macaWhats are you traying to say, Zyewni?23:35
Zyewni@maca: I have another question, not related to Photoshop23:36
macaja, but I don't understand very well23:36
macaWhat is the really question?23:37
ZyewniThis shouldn't be taken as an attack on Ubuntu. It's an honest question (and I do like Ubuntu better).  I installed Ubuntu because I kept hearing how great it was - more stable, more secure, more customizable, etc. But that hasn't really been my experience with it this last month. It crashes quite a bit - Windows didn't. It doesn't play nice with my hardware - Windows did.23:37
ZyewniSo my question is, what sort of material advantages does Ubuntu have over Windows 7? What benefits am I unknowingly enjoying from using it?23:37
beandogcould be a lot of reasons stuff is crashing.  Usually poor hardware23:38
genii-aroundZyewni: You're here getting interactive support for instance23:38
beandognext time something goes wrong, just come here in and troubleshoot it23:38
odselI accidentally changed my /etc/sysctl.conf, is there anyway i can get it back to maintainer's version?23:39
beandog:)23:39
Zyewni@beandog, I'm not too worried about the crashes23:39
ZyewniThey haven't really put me off of Ubuntu23:39
ZyewniBut yes, I will23:39
Zyewni@genii: that's true, but I'm sure that Windows has IRC channels too.23:39
beandogone of the biggest reasons for using linux is freedom and flexibility it gives you ... no licensing issues, no costs23:39
macaZyewni, you promote open source software, and I think, is better than one close source software23:39
macaI hope you understand me23:40
beandogyou have lots and lots and lots of choices when it comes to software23:40
genii-aroundodsel: If you have /usr/share/doc/procps/examples/sysctl.conf then you can use that23:40
Zyewni@beandog, ok, that makes sense23:40
beandoghttp://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu23:40
beandogthat might be a bit generic23:40
beandogZyewni: really though, you'll just find that you are more *productive* overall, because of stability and things not getting in your way23:41
odselgenii-around: thanks!23:41
genii-aroundodsel: You're welcome23:41
Zyewni@beandog, stability was never an issue for me in Windows - not that it is in Ubuntu either23:41
dagrovesbwat47: It worked! It did not work when I rebooted but after I unpluged my USB Adapeter and reinserted it, I was connected. That is good enough for me23:41
dagrovesThank you for your help!23:41
ZyewniBut Windows 7 has never crashed on me (unless I caused it by tinkering)23:42
beandogZyewni: well the question is kind of abstract by its nature ... the best answer is it depends on what you're using it for23:42
ZyewniThat's true23:42
ZyewniSo on the why use Ubuntu page, it says: "No viruses23:42
ZyewniLife's too short to spend it worrying about viruses."23:42
beandogSay, for example, you work with multimedia23:42
ZyewniIs that true?23:42
macaAnd you will feel gratifying involucration in... Zyewni... and more...23:42
beandogZyewni: yah23:42
ZyewniSurely there's some way for Ubuntu to contract a contagion?23:42
beandogFor multimedia (encoding, playback, etc) there are lots of good tools23:42
beandogZyewni: your most likely attack vector is going to be malicious scripts running on webpages23:43
bwat47Zyewni: any os can fall victim to malware, but ubuntu isn't really targeted by malware authors and its generally more secure than windows23:43
genii-aroundZyewni: They can spread windows viruses by accident but not contract them23:43
beandogbut even then, they can't install software that would run on windows23:43
ZyewniBut as far as things getting installed on my computer without my knowledge, or files going missing? Not gonna happen?23:43
merp_I recently removed my password, and now when i try to authenticate i cant?!23:43
beandogZyewni: correct23:43
genii-aroundZyewni: The odds are very much against it23:43
macaIsn't true that Linux systemes have not viruses.... No SO are unviolable from attacks viruses and malware23:43
beandogmaca is right23:44
beandognothing is completely secure23:44
beandogbut you are more secure23:44
macaMac Apple, has some viruses and malware... so...23:44
genii-aroundThere ARE linux/unix viruses but so rare and mostly programming experiments23:44
bwat47with the way people blindly use ppa's i'm sure infecting suckers with malware would be easy on ubuntu lol23:44
merp_Help?23:44
macait depends on how you use23:44
ZyewniOk, that alone is a reason to stick with Ubuntu, because I get into some places I probably shouldn't, and I'm sure there's all sorts of malware to be found there23:44
genii-around"proof of concept" type stuff23:44
merp_Umm. please?23:44
beandogmerp_: dunno ... look for a rescue guide?23:45
genii-aroundmerp_: How did you remove your passowrd?23:45
beandogmerp_: are you still logged into the box?23:45
merp_login options says password: none23:46
ZyewniSo if I downgraded to Natty, could I get GIMP 2.8?23:46
Jordan_UZyewni: No. I don't know why you would even expect that.23:46
ZyewniSomeone said 2.8 didn't work with 12.0423:46
bwat47i have gimp 2.8 on precise23:46
ZyewniBut there is a 2.8, so I assumed it had to work with some version of Ubuntu23:47
ZyewniIf not the latest, then older versions23:47
genii-aroundZyewni: When the next Ubuntu ( 12.10 ) is released, it will have gimp 2.823:47
Zyewni@bwat47, how'd you get 2.8?23:47
merp_Panic.....23:47
OerHeksi wouldn't recommend the gimp 2.8 ppa, unstable and not supported here.23:48
bwat47there's a ppa for it , google gimp  2.8 ppa (use at your own risk obviously, ppa's not officially supported)23:48
macaWell, guys... I should go out...23:48
Zyewni@genii-around: but 12.10 is scheduled for 201423:48
macaBy23:48
merp_Help meeeeeeee23:48
Dr_willismerp_,  clarify the issue..23:48
genii-aroundZyewni: No. the 12 means 2012 the 10 means tenth month eg: October23:48
Jordan_Umerp_: Please stop.23:48
merp_I removed my password and now i cant authenticate anything23:49
genii-aroundZyewni: So this year, in a few months. not in 2014 :-)23:49
Dr_willis2014 would be 14.04 or 14.1023:49
Jordan_Umerp_: Stick to comments directly related to your ussue and if anyone can help you, they will.23:49
Dr_willismerp_,  removed how.23:49
ZyewniOh, ok. I was looking at the 'Supported Until' column23:49
ZyewniSorry, I'm an idiot sometimes23:49
huskerHello guys (:23:50
merp_I went in to user accounts, clicked my user, clicked the box next to password and there was a option box saying i could remove my password23:50
huskerDoes have ubuntuusers a german IRC channel ?23:50
merp_So i did23:50
Dr_willis!de23:50
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!23:50
ajfhow can I get newer versions of PHP?23:50
ajflike PHP 5.4.x? not 5.3.x?23:50
Dr_willisajf,  normal way would be to use a PPA, or source.23:50
ajfwithout building from source, preferably23:50
huskerthank you!23:51
ajfok23:51
ajfthanks23:51
uberBodomtest23:51
genii-aroundmerp_: You can boot to recovery kernel, choose root, do: mount -o remount,rw /   then: passwd your-username-here   then: reboot23:51
beandogajf: building from source is fun!  Plus, it's actually easy to do, since php tells you the options it was configured with.23:51
beandogajf: but you probably don't wanna go that route.  I'm guessing a PPA is gonna be your answer.23:51
ajfit's fun except when you get errors23:51
merp_okay...23:51
ZyewniRandom question: how long would it take to rewrite about 350GBs with junk data?23:52
beandoggenii-around: I'm not sure he's locked out23:52
beandoggenii-around: I think he just tweaked his xdm settings23:52
genii-aroundHm23:52
ajfbeandog: OK.23:52
beandogmerp_: are you logged into your box right now?23:52
beandogajf: sorry man, that's not fun either, but that's pretty much your only options23:52
huskerHello (. Could someone tells me , what does chan.c is? It is a file or a path or somethng like that?23:54
Jordan_Uhusker: What is the context?23:54
genii-aroundLooks like the name of a C file23:54
metasansanahow can I get the current temperature from the terminal?23:55
persona24I have a little noobish question. Pidgin is not working for me and I want to kill it. I've never successfully done the kill command though, how could I end this program? It's frozen23:55
beandogpersona24: pkill -9 pidgin23:55
beandogfrom console23:55
persona24beandog: thank you, it worked! (of course)23:56
beandogyahp23:56
huskerJordan: I want patch something. And i should copy a file into the same path like this chan.c. I searched this with the command "locate". but i didn't found anything.23:57
Jordan_Umetasansana: The temperature of what?23:57
metasansanaJordan_U: sorry the cpu23:57
beandogI was too lazy to ask that question23:57
Jordan_Umetasansana: "sensors".23:58
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beandogor acpi23:58
genii-aroundmetasansana: This is if you have lm-sensors installed and coretemp module loaded23:58
metasansanathanks, I just installed it :)23:58
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Jordan_U!tab | husker23:59
ubottuhusker: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.23:59
Jordan_Uhusker: What directions are you following?23:59
usr13__husker: You might need to use find (rather than locate).23:59
akrhi guys23:59
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