[00:26] <DemonWitch> hey how can i change at grub the video driver ( i want to choose vesa by changing the kernel line)
[00:27] <Unit193> Grub config? /etc/default/grub just remember to update-grub
[00:27] <DemonWitch> Unit193, yeah
[00:28] <DemonWitch> i want to tell grub to use vesa
[00:28] <DemonWitch> instead of ati driver
[00:28] <DemonWitch> what is the kernel line parameter?
[00:55] <toekee> how do I save smb://102.168.1.100 (windows shares) ?
[00:57] <ochosi> toekee: you mean as a bookmark in thunar?
[00:57] <toekee> yes...ochsi...
[00:57] <toekee> ochosi...
[00:57] <ochosi> it's not possible at the moment, you have to use gigolo for that
[00:58] <ochosi> (or you create a launcher)
[00:58] <toekee> shux darn
[00:58] <toekee> oh..a launcher
[00:59] <toekee> what about fstab ?
[00:59] <ochosi> yeah, you can also do that
[01:00] <Unit193> Yep, that works, and is faster than FUSE.
[01:00] <ochosi> not sure whether it takes longer to boot if you're not in your lan though
[01:00] <ochosi> you can also add a network-manager dispatcher script that checks your wlan-essid (or in a lan your route etc.) and then mounts the smb share
[01:01] <ochosi> there are many many options :)
[01:01] <toekee> There should be an automount option
[01:02] <toekee> Is this an xfce issue then ?
[01:03] <toekee> I have the windows share as a home server, accessible from the local network from any laptop pretty much
[01:04] <toekee> except crunchbang  and vector linux
[01:06] <ochosi> well you can always go the slow way and use the "network" link in thunar
[01:06] <ochosi> it's about as slow as browsing the network with windows
[01:06] <ochosi> the automount option is fstab
[01:07] <ochosi> toekee: ^
[01:07] <toekee> yes...the network link....almost works
[01:09] <toekee> I ndont really mind typing the address in the location  box, but I have never dealt with fstab , so that would be a learning thing
[01:10] <toekee> how to add windows shares to fstab....google it...
[01:10] <ochosi> yeah, it's just adding one line (and there are many examples on the net)
[01:10] <ochosi> should be manageable
[01:10] <toekee> the optiions are what confuse me
[01:10] <ochosi> yeah, but there are not so many
[01:10] <toekee> after the uuid
[01:11] <ochosi> and they're documented
[01:11] <toekee> I should learn it
[01:11] <ochosi> yeah, it's pretty useful and works on every linux
[01:11] <toekee> yah...its the real linux stuff....fstab
[01:12] <toekee> the auto stuff is prolly frowned upon from the true linux point of view
[01:12] <ochosi> not necessarily
[01:13] <ochosi> but it's always useful to know your way on the command line, at least a bit
[01:13] <ochosi> especially when X breaks or when you're on a remote server
[01:14] <toekee> Yah ...true
[01:15] <toekee> ochosi....what woould be an example of a windows shares added to fstab?
[01:17] <ochosi> toekee: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+add+windows+share+fstab
[01:17] <toekee> funny !
[01:18] <ochosi> innit? :D
[01:18] <toekee> oh yes..it is...
[01:18] <ochosi> first result is the page of the ubuntu wiki
[01:18] <ochosi> that should work ;)
[01:19] <toekee> tnaks...I'll read for a bit now....
[01:19] <toekee> thanks....
[01:19] <ochosi> np, have fun!
[01:19] <ochosi> and good luck
[01:20] <toekee> despite my inabilities, I rarely ever use windows....
[01:20] <toekee> "publisher files"
[01:21] <toekee> so....there
[02:27] <xubuntu260> First time on IRC; excuse any problems;  I'm looking for some help getting a dev environment setup on xubuntu.
[02:27] <xubuntu260> I'm trying to install things like python-numpy and can't figure out which repository to add to apt.
[02:30] <xubuntu260> example: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/python-numpy
[02:31] <xubuntu260> I'm just not sure what the mapping is from ubuntu names <-> xubuntu; used uname -a, but didn't see anythnig useful.
[02:34] <Unit193> Just open synaptic and search for, and install python-numpy
[02:34] <Unit193> or type sudo apt-get install python-numpy
[02:35] <xubuntu260> Sweet.  Thanks so much Unit193.
[02:35] <Unit193> Sure.
[02:35] <xubuntu260> Guess my mistake was going through the "Ubuntu software center"
[02:36] <Unit193> Meh, I've never used it.
[02:36] <xubuntu260> Just installed virtualbox, haven't used a debian system in years; thought that it was some front end for synaptic.
[02:37] <xubuntu260> apt is great.
[02:40] <Unit193> !software
[02:40] <Unit193> There's that too.
[02:41] <xubuntu260> Appreciated.
[02:48] <liveoutloud91> Howdy! How would I get window snapping in Xubuntu?
[02:51] <Unit193> Already enabled, but config in settings > Settings Manager > Window Manager > Advanced.
[02:54] <liveoutloud91> I'm in the windows manager but I don't see "Advanced"
[02:55] <Unit193> Top tab.
[04:10] <doc|home> hey, I just installed a new geforce gtx550ti and my screens now seem a bit out of whack. I've switched from a geforce 7600gt. Anyone got any idea what I need to do to fix it? I can get to a terminal easily.
[04:10] <doc|home> no mouse usage though
[04:11] <doc|home> the xorg.conf reads Geforce 7600 GT for the boardname, but I doubt that's a problem, is it?
[04:37] <doc|mobile> anyone?
[05:44] <pepsipilot> Hello everyone
[05:45] <pepsipilot> Will xubuntu work on a P3 258Megs laptop
[05:48] <pepsipilot> What will be the best linux to run
[05:49]  * Transfusion used mint 9 with xfce
[05:49] <Transfusion> on a pIII 128 MB 533 mhz compaq presario lappy
[05:51] <pepsipilot> Is mint9 good distro
[05:51] <pepsipilot> How is xubuntu
[05:51] <baizon> mint 9 old, gnome 2 distro
[05:52] <baizon> xubuntu xfce :)
[05:52] <Transfusion> gnome 2 is heavy on graphics....
[05:52] <Transfusion> :D
[05:52] <baizon> make your choice :)
[05:54] <pepsipilot> Which 1 is better because slatz is running so so slow
[05:58] <baizon> cant say :)
[05:58] <baizon> try both
[06:00] <pepsipilot> Okay
[06:00] <pepsipilot> Are the big in size
[06:01] <pepsipilot> How do I get the xubuntu xfce version
[06:04] <well_laid_lawn> !xubuntu
[06:05] <pepsipilot> Hehe
[06:07] <Marzata> most of the users are bio-robots
[06:07] <pepsipilot> Oh okay
[06:07] <Marzata> pepsipilot: the xfce version?
[06:08] <baizon> xubuntu got only the xfce DE :)
[06:08] <Marzata> another one
[06:08] <xubuntu136> NEED HELP..i need to uninstall xubuntu completely..i've currently installed it along with windows 7..
[06:09] <Marzata> you know, bio-robots are not yet that good at making jokes
[06:09] <pepsipilot> What is DE
[06:11] <pepsipilot> So is mint9 the 1 I need of the latest mint
[06:19] <baizon> pepsipilot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[06:21] <pepsipilot> Hehe thanks
[06:22] <pepsipilot> Wanna find out will the latest mint xfce work on my old laptop or do I require mint9
[06:24] <Mathsterk> pepsipilot: just try, it would probably not hurt :P
[06:25] <baizon> mint doesnt have a "lastest version"
[06:25] <baizon> mint xfce is bleeding edge
[06:25] <Marzata> mint?
[06:25] <baizon> Marzata: i mean mint + xfce
[06:26] <Marzata> so
[06:27] <pepsipilot> Isadora
[06:28] <Transfusion> debian >.< i want to install wine 1.4. To do that, i need to install the unstable alsamixer. No problem, I figure. But to do that, i have to install the new python toolkit......., and to do that, i need to instal....... until i approach infinity.
[06:30] <pepsipilot> Can I use a dos application in Linux
[06:30] <pepsipilot> And if so I need so install winehq
[06:30] <pepsipilot> Is it easy to use winehq to open a dos ap
[06:31]  * Transfusion has no idea sorry, perhaps you may need DOSBox inside wine
[06:31] <Transfusion> the dependencies in the debian repos are INSANELY outdated, some approaching three years old!
[06:32] <Marzata> debian is a goner, use ubuntu
[06:34] <Transfusion> debian and centos are the only options on host1free
[06:34] <Transfusion> and getting ppa to work on debian squeeze is superhuman
[06:36] <Transfusion> ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/mIRC$ sudo synaptic
[06:36] <Transfusion> [sudo] password for ravera:
[06:36] <Transfusion> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
[06:36] <Transfusion> (synaptic:6241): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :1.0
[06:36]  * Transfusion facepalms
[06:37] <well_laid_lawn> what does echo $DISPLAY return in a terminal ?
[06:37] <Transfusion> $ echo $DISPLAY
[06:37] <Transfusion> :1.0
[06:38] <Transfusion> i'm on a VPS, lxde is installed
[06:38] <well_laid_lawn> seems weird then
[06:38] <pepsipilot> Will I be able to use dos on mint or xubuntu
[06:38] <well_laid_lawn> pepsipilot: you'll need an emulator
[06:39] <well_laid_lawn> !info dosbox
[06:39] <pepsipilot> So dosbox works on Linux.
[06:39] <well_laid_lawn> yeppers
[06:43] <pepsipilot> Awesome
[06:43] <Mathsterk> is there an easy way to check internet speed in cli? (without wget'ing a large file from somewhere)
[06:44] <well_laid_lawn> Mathsterk: you need to be downloading something to check how fast you are capable of downloading stuff
[06:45] <well_laid_lawn> here in oz I use ozspeedtest.com
[06:46] <Mathsterk> well_laid_lawn: i'm planning on testing how fast internet my box has (it's about 2000 km away from me :P ) and it doesn't run X and last time i tried speedtests in lynx they wouldn't work
[06:47] <well_laid_lawn> Mathsterk: sounds like you might have to use wget or curl
[06:47] <Mathsterk> ok
[06:47] <well_laid_lawn> afaik and I don't know everything
[06:50] <Mathsterk> damn, just 5 mbit down and 1 up :\
[06:55] <pepsipilot> Lol
[07:17] <pepsipilot> Which is better for xubuntu or lubuntu
[07:18] <Mathsterk> that is depending on what you mean with "better" :P (everything has advantages and disadvantages)
[07:21] <pepsipilot> On my P3 laptop with 258megs
[07:21] <pepsipilot> Which will run faster
[07:22] <pepsipilot> Which 1 do u think
[07:34] <pAt_> pepsipilot: maybe Lubuntu is slightly faster in my experience
[07:58] <pepsipilot> Lubuntu
[08:00] <Marzata> xubuntu -x +l
[08:41] <sunzz> just resumed my system from standby - mouse stopped working...  what can i do about it?
[08:43] <baizon> sunzz: restart? :)
[08:43] <baizon> mouse ps2 or usb?
[08:43] <sunzz> usb
[08:43] <sunzz> restart does help indeed :P
[08:46] <Dice> does re-plugging it help?
[09:06] <Mathsterk> sunzz: switch usb-port, it usually help
[09:06] <Mathsterk> helps*
[09:07] <sunzz> indeed, replugging it into a different USB slot helps
[09:08] <sunzz> but, since i am using a laptop with only 2 usb slots, i cant afford loosing 50% of my USB to standby
[09:09] <Mathsterk> you can also try replugging
[09:09] <sunzz> just replugging does not help
[09:10] <well_laid_lawn> I'd check dmesg to see if the kernel registers the mouse being replugged
[09:11] <sunzz> well_laid_lawn, i just did, it does not register it on the slot where it should be
[09:11] <sunzz> well_laid_lawn, but it registers fine on the other usb slot, wich i need free for using usb-disks
[09:11] <well_laid_lawn> k
[09:12] <well_laid_lawn> it works ok if you unplug it before going to standby then resume?
[09:13] <sunzz> not tried that yet
[09:13] <sunzz> i forgot to mention, it does not happen after every resume, it seems to happen randomly in 60-70% of resumes
[09:14] <sunzz> that why its so annoying :(
[09:14] <ochosi> sunzz: have you taken a look whether there's already a bugreport?
[09:15] <sunzz> ochosi, no, where should i look?
[09:15] <ochosi> on launchpad
[09:16] <sunzz> ah ok, im going to check that
[09:16] <ochosi> or you can simply google "ubuntu $your-laptop-model resume standby usb blah blah"
[09:17] <sunzz> ochosi, well i spent weeks googling that already, there are many similar problems reported, but almost no solutions, and if, they dont work for me
[09:17] <ochosi> i see
[10:56] <xubuntu426> hello world!
[10:56] <xubuntu426> there is someone here?
[10:57] <knome> just us robots.
[10:57] <xubuntu426> robots?
[10:57] <knome> i'm just kidding.
[10:57] <xubuntu426> :D
[10:57] <xubuntu426> i have a problem with installing kubuntu
[10:57] <knome> kubuntu? then try #kubuntu
[10:58] <xubuntu426> sorry xubuntu
[10:58] <xubuntu426> on an old desktop pc
[10:58] <knome> sure - what's the problem?
[10:58] <xubuntu426> pentium IV
[10:58] <xubuntu426> 1 gb ram
[10:58] <xubuntu426> boot regular
[10:58] <xubuntu426> at menu
[10:58] <xubuntu426> what ever i choose
[10:59] <xubuntu426> everything i choose
[10:59] <xubuntu426> i have black screen
[10:59] <xubuntu426> except with memtest
[11:01] <xubuntu426> i have black screen with "install" "try live cd" and "check cd .."
[11:02] <xubuntu426> the cd is sure ok because with my portable pc i can right play the live version
[11:02] <xubuntu426> (and probably install it)
[11:04] <xubuntu426> :(
[11:05] <xubuntu426> [12:57] <xubuntu426> i have a problem with installing xubuntu [12:58] <xubuntu426> on an old desktop pc [12:58] <xubuntu426> pentium IV [12:58] <xubuntu426> 1 gb ram [12:58] <knome> sure - what's the problem? [12:58] <xubuntu426> boot regular [12:58] <xubuntu426> at menu [12:58] <xubuntu426> what ever i choose [12:59] <xubuntu426> everything i choose [12:59] <xubuntu426> i have black screen [12:59] <xubuntu426> except with memtes
[11:05] <knome> !patience
[11:05] <knome> xubuntu426, please read that
[11:05] <xubuntu426> sorry
[11:09] <xubuntu426> uff ..
[11:09] <xubuntu426> what i can try??
[11:11] <xubuntu426> i had to go
[11:11] <xubuntu426> bye bye
[13:16] <bonno> hi i have a problem with a process....  i am using conky and i can see that out of nowhere a process called :  xfce4-knotifyd  consumes a huge amount 30% of RAM... why? is that? i have my pc 1 + 1/2 days running... never had that problemm..also recently xfce4-xkb-plugin consumes 7% of the RAM (never had found a procces before that consumed more that 2-3%   (except browser with many tabs..) any help?
[13:17] <bonno> i dont know what these processes do... :p
[13:20] <magnus__> anyone know a way to produce all the fonts available in a terminal? ie a script/command/oneliner ?
[13:21] <Second> any help?
[13:22] <knome> magnus__, if you are referring to rebuilding the fonts catalog, check 'fc-cache' out
[13:23] <magnus__> knome: not really no. I want to pick a font to use in rxvt-unicode, but would like to see all the ones available in the terminal, so I can pick it :)
[13:24] <Second> can i get some advice here too ? :p
[13:24] <knome> magnus__, so are you referring to "how can i see all the monospae fonts?"
[13:24] <knome> !ask | Second
[13:24] <magnus__> knome: correct
[13:24] <Second> i did  already...  oh ok
[13:25] <Second>  hi i have a problem with a process....  i am using conky and i can see that out of nowhere a process called :  xfce4-knotifyd  consumes a huge amount 30% of RAM... why? is that? i have my pc 1 + 1/2 days running... never had that problemm..also recently xfce4-xkb-plugin consumes 7% of the RAM (never had found a procces before that consumed more that 2-3%   (except browser with many tabs..)
[13:25] <knome> magnus__, i don't think there is a specific app for that
[13:25] <magnus__> darn
[13:25] <magnus__> would be very useful though
[13:25] <knome> magnus__, a very niche request though ;)
[13:26] <Mathsterk> Second: try restarting the xfce4-knotifyd
[13:26] <magnus__> knome: sooo many fonts, it would be ideal to be able to pick the best one :)
[13:27] <Mathsterk> sometimes they use insane amounts of ram, i don't know why :\
[13:27] <Second> no its gone... :p omg.. memory is back to where it was
[13:27] <Second> what does knotifyd does in simple words?
[13:27] <knome> magnus__, i like liberation mono
[13:28] <knome> magnus__, dejavu sans mono isn't bad either
[13:28] <Mathsterk> Second: i think it's the fancy notifications (right corner)
[13:28] <Mathsterk> maybe it crashed?
[13:29] <magnus__> knome: ok will take a look. Thanks for the suggesions
[13:29] <knome> magnus__, np :)
[13:29] <Mathsterk> i found out why my computer boots slow
[13:30] <Second> ok and something else...   xfce4-xkb-plugin   consumes too 8% RAM  never had before...  what does it do and how do i fix it?
[13:31] <Mathsterk> 115 services or so starting up :P
[13:31] <Second> *never had that before*
[13:31] <Mathsterk> Second: try googling what it is
[13:31] <knome> Second, it's a keyboard layout switching applet - if you don't need it, you can stop it
[13:33] <Second> keyboard layout switcher...you mean it swithes between  "english" "japanese"  and that?
[13:33] <knome> Second, yes.
[13:34] <Second> cntrl + alt + shift ?
[13:34] <knome> don't know about that.
[13:34] <Second> thanks... found something on google about memory leak of that process..
[13:57] <Relondo> So, I used "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to install Xfce on my standard Ubuntu installation. So, how  do I switch to it?
[14:16] <Papa-Smurf> Hello
[14:16] <blackgatonegro> Hi
[14:17] <Papa-Smurf> what is the best remote desktop for Xubuntu??
[14:17] <blackgatonegro> Relondo, try picking "xubuntu-desktop" before logging in
[14:17] <blackgatonegro> is in the options under the password thing
[14:18] <Mathsterk> Papa-Smurf: how are you going to use it?
[14:18] <Papa-Smurf> from a linux or windows client
[14:18] <Papa-Smurf> something like vnc...
[14:18] <Mathsterk> x11vnc is good
[14:18] <blackgatonegro> remote desktop? Well, there is grdesktop
[14:19] <Papa-Smurf> x11vnc
[14:19] <Papa-Smurf> there are many
[14:19] <Papa-Smurf> but i want to know which one works better with Xubuntu
[14:19] <blackgatonegro> grdesktop is basically a clone of the Microsoft one
[14:19] <Mathsterk> Papa-Smurf: tried x11vnc?
[14:20] <Papa-Smurf> i haven't tried any yet
[14:20] <Papa-Smurf> what i need to install x11vnc???
[14:20] <Mathsterk> well, try a solution, if you don't like it, try the next one :P
[14:20] <Papa-Smurf> xinetd ??
[14:20] <Mathsterk> sudo apt-get install x11vnc
[14:20] <blackgatonegro> Try grdesktop if you wanna use it with windows computers
[14:20] <Mathsterk> and it should do it automagically
[14:20] <Papa-Smurf> Mathsterk,  and that's all
[14:20] <Papa-Smurf> Mathsterk, ahh ok
[14:20] <Papa-Smurf> good
[14:21] <blackgatonegro> if is linux only, well yes, there are many many options.
[14:21] <Papa-Smurf> blackgatonegro, can i install both servers grdesktop and x11vnc??
[14:21] <Mathsterk> i always prefer vnc, because it isn't locked to one os and you find clients for almost every thing
[14:22] <Mathsterk> Papa-Smurf: i think you can install both
[14:22] <blackgatonegro> Well, yes, but make sure to only run one at the time.
[14:22] <Papa-Smurf> blackgatonegro, thanks
[14:23] <blackgatonegro> also try vnc
[14:23] <Papa-Smurf> i'm going to install x11vnc and if i'm not happy i will try other
[14:23] <Papa-Smurf> x11vnc does a have client?
[14:23] <blackgatonegro> grdesktop is mostly for those used to the Microsoft one
[14:24] <blackgatonegro> a gui? well, there are a few
[14:24] <Papa-Smurf> ok i'm going to install both and try at home
[14:24] <Papa-Smurf> but first i need more alcohol in my blood
[14:25] <Mathsterk> Papa-Smurf: x11vnc is a vnc server and cli-only, but i think there is some gui's for it as well
[14:25] <blackgatonegro> I have found a few guis, but none of them are top rated
[14:26] <Mathsterk> it's for ubuntu but that shouldn't matter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[14:26] <Papa-Smurf> cli-only
[14:26] <blackgatonegro> again, grdesktop  is the easiest to use
[14:26] <Papa-Smurf> what i want i gui mostly
[14:26] <blackgatonegro> grdesktop  then
[14:26] <Papa-Smurf> as CLI i've got ssh
[14:27] <Papa-Smurf> let's try grdesktop then
[14:28] <Papa-Smurf> is it "Remotedesktop Client" in the software center?
[14:28] <Mathsterk> look for server
[14:28] <Papa-Smurf> it looks like yes
[14:28] <blackgatonegro> just type "grdesktop"
[14:28] <blackgatonegro> in the search bar
[14:29] <Papa-Smurf> only appears the client version
[14:29] <Mathsterk> or just do: sudo apt-get install grdesktop
[14:29] <blackgatonegro> tried with getdeb?
[14:29] <Papa-Smurf> ohh yes man
[14:30] <Mathsterk> anyone got a list of how "sudo services --status-all" looks like on a fresh install?
[14:30] <Papa-Smurf> I haven't taken so many drugs today
[14:30] <Papa-Smurf> but i think i can install it
[14:30] <blackgatonegro> well, try searchiching for ubuntu deb grdesktop on the ubuntu web searchers
[14:49] <Papa-Smurf> i couldn't find the server package fro grdesktop
[14:50] <holstein> SpaceAviator: maybe just vinagre/vino
[14:50] <holstein> SpaceAviator: sorry... Papa-Smurf ^
[14:50] <holstein> Papa-Smurf: also, depeding on your needs, teamviewer is quite easy and well supported, though not opensource
[14:51] <Papa-Smurf> holstein, yes i used teamviewer in the past
[14:51] <holstein> i have been enjoying the remmina viewer and i usually just use vino, running vino-preferences in the terminal to configure
[14:52] <Papa-Smurf> holstein, vino is probably the best
[14:52] <Papa-Smurf> i think
[14:53] <Papa-Smurf> i used it when my life was easy
[16:03] <habibjp> hello
[16:08] <habibjp> Can anyone help me with installing Xubuntu on a RAID0 array
[16:10] <baizon> habibjp: whats your problem?
[16:10] <habibjp> None yet. But i'm not sure how to go ahead installing.
[16:11] <habibjp> i have two disks (500gb each) in RAID0, set up on the motherboard
[16:11] <habibjp> im planning to install XP, then W7, then Xubuntu, all side-by-side
[16:12] <habibjp> so when i get to installing xubuntu, can i just install (alongside) as i normally would?
[16:12] <habibjp> or do i need drivers, like for windows
[16:12] <habibjp> or is it more complicated
[16:12] <habibjp> (sorry for my long-windedness)
[16:13] <craigbass1976> I have a samba share mounted up ( it's shared out and mounted by the same box ) but I can't delete files unless I'm at a command line.  Trying in the GUI gives me an error about not being able to find or create trash.
[16:16] <craigbass1976> !log
[16:18] <craigbass1976> habibjp, I just tried reading what you asked, but the log file ends right after you said hello.  I can only see (in here) from "so when I get..." down.
[16:20] <habibjp> craigbass1976, heres what i said: i have two disks (500gb each) in RAID0, set up on the motherboard im planning to install XP, then W7, then Xubuntu, all side-by-side so when i get to installing xubuntu, can i just install (alongside) as i normally would? or do i need drivers, like for windows or is it more complicated (sorry for my long-windedness)
[16:20] <habibjp> Apologies for my hiedous grammar
[16:20] <habibjp> and spelling
[16:21] <craigbass1976> habibjp, and spelling...  It's  hideous.  ;)
[16:22] <craigbass1976> habibjp, you're doing hardware raid then?
[16:23] <craigbass1976> Is your card on this: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/RAID/
[16:27] <habibjp> i dont see it :(
[16:28] <habibjp> my RAID chip purports to be made by ATI
[16:35] <Sergio55> Hi all! I'm running xubuntu 12 and the problem is that desktop clock shows the time +1 hour more than real local. I've double checked time zone and location settings - these are set right. How do I fix that?
[16:35] <habibjp> is it stuck on/off daylight saving time perhaps
[16:36] <craigbass1976> or maybe your wife is trying to make sure you're early for stuff...
[16:37] <habibjp> so, as my raid chip isnt on the list, will i be unable to use xubuntu on my raid array? :(
[16:38] <Sergio55> okay then, what's the command to set timezone from console?
[16:39] <craigbass1976> habibjp, I'm not sure; I've only done software raid and it was before dapper...
[16:39] <habibjp> hmm
[16:39] <habibjp> i guess i could jsut boot from the install disc and see what happens?
[16:40] <habibjp> if it recognizes the drive i shouldn't have a problem, right?
[16:43] <Sergio55> habibjp, sorry to ask again, but what's the command to set timezone from console?
[16:43] <habibjp> sorry i don't know it
[16:43] <Sergio55> thanks anyway
[16:43] <habibjp> ill see if i can find out
[16:43] <Sergio55> got another question
[16:44] <craigbass1976> Sergio55, it's going to be date, but I don't know what the options are...
[16:45] <craigbass1976> Sergio55, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-set-date-time-from-linux-command-prompt/
[16:46] <Sergio55> in windows, when you use apps, it somehow remembers your current language selection for an app.  is it implemented/possible to install or configure on xubuntu?
[16:46] <genii-around> Sergio55: You wanted to set the time, or you want to set the timezone?
[16:47] <Sergio55> genii-around, timezone is set all right, but somehow clock on the desktop shows a hour more
[16:47] <Sergio55> genii-around, I just want to fix that
[16:48] <habibjp> you could always set it from BIOS
[16:48] <genii-around> Sergio55: Perhaps to use ntpd to set the time from a local tick server
[16:48] <Sergio55> genii-around, thanks for the tip, i'll dig that way
[16:49] <Sergio55> and about languages question?
[16:49] <genii-around> Sergio55: No idea offhand on that, I only ever use a single one on this system
[16:50] <Sergio55> i just simultaneously use two, and changing these every time you switch to another app is a real pain in the arse
[17:19] <craigbass1976> I have a samba share mounted up ( it's shared out and mounted by the same box ) but I can't delete files unless I'm at a command line.  Trying in the GUI gives me an error about not being able to find or create trash.
[17:20] <Dice> shift+del removes directly, without trash
[17:48] <lduros> can you do a live USB out of the XUBUNTU alternate iso?
[17:48] <lduros> I want to use xubuntu out of a usb flash drive? without ever installing it on the harddrive
[17:51] <Dice> you need livecd-image for live-usb, for permanent usage you should do actual installation on stick
[17:52] <lduros> Dice: hmm ok so how can I do that?
[17:52] <lduros> with a CD and instead of installing on the harddrive, i install on the usb?
[17:52] <lduros> hehe
[17:52] <lduros> sounds doable
[18:00] <craigbass1976> Dice, aha.  Thanks.  Any way to force it without confirmation?
[19:02] <rinzler> I'm having some major problems. I just started up my 12.04 machine and now there is only one workspace available (had 6), and the window buttons (close minimize maximize) are gone. I've tried rebooting and the whole nine yards. any ideas?
[19:04] <rinzler> also: none of the open windows are being shown in the Window Buttons panel item, and alt-tab doesn't work either.
[19:08] <Dice> rinzler: alt +F2 "xfwm4 --replace"
[19:09] <Dice> then rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions to remove corrupted session
[19:09] <rinzler> ahh! Perfect! Thanks, Dice!
[19:09] <Dice> np
[19:12] <Mathsterk> hmmz, now my disk won't be unmounted "disk or device is busy" or something
[19:15] <Dice> it's in a hurry, give it a moment
[19:15] <Dice> not viewing it's contents in any file manager window might help
[19:16] <Mathsterk> i'm not doing anything on it
[19:17] <Mathsterk> and the activity led is not flashing, weird
[20:01] <xubuntu209> Hello, I would like to know where to ask about updates and which ones to install for Xbuntu 12.04
[20:04] <Unit193> What's wrong with them?
[20:04] <well_laid_lawn> what do you want to know about the updates?
[20:05] <xubuntu209> Do I install all of the updates or do I need to go through the list and somehow select only the ones I want/need/should have.
[20:08] <Unit193> Generally you go with all.
[20:10] <drc> xubuntu209: From your nick I assume that you are irc'ing from the live cd install and are thinking about the first update after install?
[20:12] <xubuntu209> No, I am on a Windows system just surfing the net.  I have Xbuntu installed on another system.  It has been up and running for a couple of months.  I just see the update symbol every few days and have been installing them.  I have begun to wonder, however, if I was installing a bunch of stuff I do not need or want.
[20:13] <xubuntu209> You are correct abou the IRC part tho.
[20:14] <drc> ok...not to be insulting, but asking the question tells me that you probably want to take what's offered, until you have a bit more experience and can really tell what you want/need.
[20:16] <well_laid_lawn> why wouldn't you want to update a peice of software ? mostly updates are due to bugfixes or improvements
[20:16] <pleia2> updates to stable releases fix major bugs or security, so you want them :)
[20:16] <xubuntu209> No offense taken.  I am very new to linux/ubuntu/xbuntu.
[20:18] <xubuntu209> Ok, thanks for the great help.
[20:18] <Unit193> Kernel updates are the only ones that need reboots, most others just close the program and reopen (firefox)
[20:18] <drc> and when a reboot <is> required, the updated usually/always (?) tell you so :)
[20:20] <Unit193> Yes, yes it does.
[20:20] <xubuntu209> Thanks again.
[20:20] <Unit193> You can also check what program needs it by running   cat /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs
[20:21] <xubuntu209> How do I elegantly exit from this chat?
[20:22] <Unit193> /quit
[20:22] <Unit193> You could just close the tab as well, if you wish.
[20:22] <xubuntu209> thanks!
[20:55] <grifo74> hi how i run vmwareplayer
[20:55] <grifo74> i'm with xubuntu 12.04 lts 64bits
[20:55] <grifo74> i can't install patch dont work
[20:56] <asterismo> i need help
[20:56] <asterismo> please
[20:56] <asterismo> thunderbird wont open
[20:56] <asterismo> thunderbird crashes 2 seconds after opening
[20:57] <drc> grifo74: http://askubuntu.com/questions/151099/how-to-uninstall-vmware-player-on-ubuntu-12-04
[20:57] <drc> asterismo: rename ~/.thunderbird (the config files) and try to open it
[20:58] <Unit193> asterismo: You could reinstall it, or launch it from the terminal and see what output it'll give.
[20:58] <drc> grifo74: opps...my fault (trying to do 3 things at once), that was <uninstalll>...sorry
[20:59] <J03y_B> Hi everybody, never mind me, first time user just nosing around.
[20:59] <grifo74> no problem
[21:01] <grifo74> i resolv the proble download anothet patch the problem is in the patch
[21:02] <drc> J03y_B: There's a USD$5.00 cover charge, just place it in the box marked "Beer Money" over in the corner.
[21:05] <J03y_B> :)
[21:05] <J03y_B> done
[21:07]  * J03y_B is buying everyone beer...
[21:09] <J03y_B> ping drc
[21:13] <J03y_B> ....
[21:13] <asterismo> drc, ok, i'll try that
[21:14] <asterismo> drc, but i will loose all my email right?
[21:14] <drc> asterismo: not if you <rename> the folder...that way you can rename it back if/when.
[21:15] <drc> This was just to see if it was a config problem...if not, then try Unit193's (?) idea of re-installing
[21:16] <Unit193> Could also run the application from terminal, see where it's falling over.
[21:16] <drc> that too :)
[21:16] <drc> even better.
[21:16] <Unit193> Both are normal steps.
[21:17] <Unit193> Could strace it, that's always fun!  (Helped me a few times)
[21:18] <drc> for strange ideas of fun.....
[21:19] <Mathsterk> drc: on irc you will find geeks, and geeks don't like "normal" fun, they love "geeky" fun
[21:20] <drc> Mathsterk: ORLY?
[21:20] <Mathsterk> yes :o
[21:21] <xubuntu657> hello everyone. ive tried installing xubuntu on my dell latitude 120l laptop (768mb ram 1.7ghz cpu) several times. the first time it ran just fine without any problems. then all of a sudden when i tried booting, the screen went black and cpu light stopped blinking. i force shut down my pc, then tried again, this time it just simply froze during the splash screen and wouldnt boot. that was with a wubi install, i have also tried u
[21:22] <Mathsterk> cpu light?
[21:23] <xubuntu657> yeah, the little light that blinks when your computer is running (sorry if my terminology is off)
[21:23] <Mathsterk> hdd-activity led?
[21:24] <xubuntu657> yeah, i guess lol
[21:24] <Mathsterk> can you boot windows?
[21:25] <xubuntu657> yeah, windows runs just fine w/o problems
[21:25] <xubuntu657> right now im using the computer i want to put xubuntu on
[21:26] <Mathsterk> maybe a bad install?
[21:28] <xubuntu657> im not sure. ive tried quite a few times. my most recent attempt using lili to creat a bootable usb has gone the longest without freezing. i have also tried using the text based installation and that doesnt work either
[21:28] <xubuntu657> but i just redownloaded the os and im gonna try to make the usb again
[21:28] <Mathsterk> remember to check the md5 filesum
[21:29] <xubuntu657> how do i do that?
[21:29] <Mathsterk> just google it, "how to find md5 sum windows"
[21:30] <xubuntu657> ok
[21:32] <well_laid_lawn> !md5
[21:33] <Mathsterk> thanks well_laid_lawn :)
[21:33] <drc> xubuntu657: I'm confused. Are you saying you can install Xubuntu from a USB or that you can install, but then Xubuntu freezes after the install?
[21:33] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[21:33] <drc> er...can't then can :)
[21:34] <xubuntu657> i can install, but for some reason when i boot it up it freezes
[21:35] <Mathsterk> maybe xubuntu doesn't like wubi?
[21:35] <J03y_B> are you comfortable with the idea of creating a separate partition, installing Xubunto on there and multi-boot it?
[21:35] <well_laid_lawn> or it needs something like nomodeset in the kernel line
[21:35] <J03y_B> or you could run it as a live USB/CD
[21:37] <xubuntu657> i dont know how to manage partitions, and ive already tried running as a live usb and that doesnt work either
[21:37] <J03y_B> That's strange... what does not work if you try running it live?
[21:38] <Mathsterk> xubuntu657: i think xubuntu automagically can set the partitions up
[21:38] <J03y_B> and, to start with the beginning, how did you create your live USB?
[21:38] <Mathsterk> you just need to tell it how much space you want on xubuntu
[21:39] <J03y_B> The Ubuntu installers do a great job at repartitioning, the only thing you have to be sure of is that your windows partition is defragged, and that you have enough space left on your HDD
[21:39] <J03y_B> for testing purposes anything between 6 and 12 Gigs works allright...
[21:40] <xubuntu657> i used Lili, with a 4gb flash drive and i just followed the instructions, i formatted to fat32, i unchecked the hide files box, and checked the live usb box and clicked the lightning bolt
[21:40] <Mathsterk> i reccommend (if you are going to experiment) to give xubuntu 16-32 GiB :P
[21:41] <xubuntu657> and through my bios i set it to look for os in usb first
[21:41] <J03y_B> try UNetBootIn for windows, with the ISO you get of the Xubuntu site.
[21:42] <mongy> when all else fails, there's dd
[21:43] <J03y_B> when you start up your PC, in the boot splash screen you'll see a key-combination that brings you to a boot selection menu. (F10, or F12 mostly). If you press that you don't have to alter your BIOS, you can choose directly
[21:43] <Mathsterk> on the dells i have comed across it's usually esc or f1 i think
[21:44] <J03y_B> @mongy, I suspect the poster isn't familiar with Linux CLI yet...
[21:44] <xubuntu657> no
[21:44] <mongy> on my dell it's f12
[21:44] <J03y_B> I have a Dell, itś F12 since the beginning of time. :)
[21:44] <Mathsterk> it will say when you boot (look at the bottom part of the screen and look for "boot from device" or someting similiar"
[21:44] <Mathsterk> maybe f12 then
[21:45] <xubuntu657> but the installer boots from the usb, its just when it is at the screen that says xubuntu with the default desktop background, after a while it just freezes
[21:46] <J03y_B> So you are beyond the screen where you can choose to run Xubuntu Live?
[21:46] <J03y_B> .... or are you stuck there?
[21:47] <xubuntu657> no, i can get past that
[21:47] <drc> "Hry you guys" :)  It installs fine, but wont boot :)
[21:47] <xubuntu657> what drc said!
[21:47] <J03y_B> If you are stuck at that screen, it isn't installed yet...
[21:48] <drc> I quit
[21:52] <xubuntu657> so, now im using unetbootin to create the usb. i also did an md5 check, and it matches
[21:54] <mongy> never had any luck with unetbootin... dunno why, it always seemed to spaz out on me.
[21:54] <mongy> it's as easy to boot the iso directly these days.
[21:56] <xubuntu657> i tried using wubi, but it just doesnt want to boot
[21:56] <genii-around> If you spend more than 2 hours on trying to make a bootable usb, you could have bought an external dvd drive for the wages of that 2 hours
[21:58] <xubuntu657> i dont have a job, and i have been trying for over 3 days lol
[21:59] <xubuntu657> not just with the usb, but ive tried a couple install methods
[22:00] <xubuntu657> i will be back, gonna try and install another time
[22:01] <mongy> are you equiped enough to install xubuntu into a virtual machine?
[22:17] <xubuntu657> im back. im having the same problem as before:(
[22:26] <xubuntu657> everytime i try to install xubuntu (ive also tried lubuntu) my computer completely freezes up during the splash screen. the hdd light stops, and so does my usb light (i am trying to boot from a usb because i dont have any blank cd's)
[22:28] <Unit193> Have you tried the Alternate CD?
[22:29] <xubuntu657> yep, ive tried pretty much everything (wubi install, live usb using vbox emulator, usb-boot)
[22:29] <well_laid_lawn> you can turn off the splash screen during boot to fid out where it hangs
[22:29] <xubuntu657> how do i do that?
[22:31] <well_laid_lawn> at the grub menu select the kernel and press  e
[22:32] <well_laid_lawn> then select the kernel line and press  e  again
[22:32] <well_laid_lawn> move to the end and delete   splash then press b
[22:33] <xubuntu657> ok, thanks. i will try that in just a minute
[22:34] <xubuntu657> but since im currently using the computer on which to do the install i have to leave, but i will be back using the same username
[22:34] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[22:52] <xubuntu657> i am back. i turned off the splash, and the boot hangs at 3 lines. the first starting with 31.364903, the second starting with 31.366662 and the third starting with 31.368414
[22:52] <genii-around> Those are the timestamps... anything interesting writen on those lines|?
[22:52] <xubuntu657> and it gives me a website to go to and download a driver for my wireless card
[22:53] <xubuntu657> error, something about a fw file missing, ucode b43
[22:54] <xubuntu657> but idk how to install the driver if i cant boot xubuntu
[22:56] <genii-around> Is probably hanging on setting up the network
[22:56] <xubuntu657> yeah, i think that might be it. is there a way i can skip that step?
[22:57] <genii-around> xubuntu657: ctrl-c on the screen where it freezes will abort the current startup thing it's trying
[22:58] <xubuntu657> oh cool. and after that it just continues the setup normally?
[22:58] <genii-around> So it will go something like Setting up network    Fail!      and then continue
[22:59] <genii-around> xubuntu657: Pretty much
[22:59] <xubuntu657> oh cool. im gonna go try that now! thanks for the advice
[23:00] <ochosi> also
[23:00] <ochosi> (if i may step in)
[23:00] <ochosi> the b43 firmware should be available in the repos
[23:00] <ochosi> but you have to install it separately
[23:00] <genii-around> Yes, firmware-cutter or so
[23:00] <ochosi> it's annoying because it sometimes works in live-images
[23:01] <ochosi> and then you install, reboot and are left without network
[23:01] <Unit193> I'd recommend checking jockey first.
[23:02] <genii-around> !info b43-fwcutter
[23:02] <genii-around> Hm, that one may just be for pulling it out of the Windows .inf/.sys stuff
[23:03] <ochosi> yup, but still, it's as easy as installing any other package
[23:04] <genii-around> I guess you can mount the win partition, pull the firmware off it
[23:04] <ochosi> well he's gone already ;)
[23:06] <genii-around> Yup! Maybe we'll see him back if his wired connection works
[23:06]  * ochosi is keeping his fingers crossed
[23:15] <xubuntu657> so when my computer boots and hangs, i tried pressing ctrl-c, but it didnt seem to register any of my keyboard presses
[23:16] <genii-around> Bleh
[23:16] <xubuntu657> yeah. but i wrote down what it hangs on
[23:17] <xubuntu657> "b43-phy ERROR...   firmware file not found b43/ucode5.fw... firmware file not found b43-open/ucode5.fw
[23:21] <xubuntu657> nevermind, i googled the problem and i think i found a fix!
[23:21] <well_laid_lawn> do you have the link for the solution?
[23:26] <mongy> phy suggests you need the broadcom-wl driver
[23:57] <Kenshizl> Does anyone know how to get a network printer working? (I don't really know how to set it up to be recieved on xubuntu)