[15:23] <robclark> hmm, Depends: linux-ti-omap4 but it is not installable
[15:23] <robclark> any idea what makes apt-get think something can't be installed?
[15:23] <robclark> (this is filesystem started via debootstrap, and yes I've added ti ppa and apt-get update'd)
[15:23] <lilstevie> apt will think something is not installable if a condition in the depends cannot be met
[15:24] <robclark> right, but any way I can get more output to hint at what that condition might be?
[15:24] <robclark> I'm guessing something is missing because I started w/ debootstrap
[15:24] <lilstevie> pastie the error message?
[15:24] <robclark> not too much informative that I can see, but hang on
[15:25] <robclark> lilstevie, http://hastebin.com/gaqedakido.vhdl
[15:26] <robclark> oh, g-damn-it
[15:26] <robclark> I think debootstrap gave me an armel filesystem
[15:26] <lilstevie> apt-get install linux-ti-omap4
[15:26] <lilstevie> see why linux-ti-omap4 is uninstallable
[15:26] <robclark> I think all stuff in ti ppa is armhf
[15:26] <lilstevie> but that will generally do it
[15:27] <robclark> yeah, debootstrap gave me armel..  ok.. time for take-2
[15:31] <lilstevie> heh
[15:31] <lilstevie> well yeah, debootstrap is not used these days
[15:33] <robclark> well, issue was I was doing debootstrap from my oneric filesys..  I did really trust dist-update for the armel->armhf upgrade
[15:34] <robclark> but I didn't give --arch so I guess it just assumed armel
[15:34]  * robclark didn't even realize there was an armel precise
[15:34] <robclark> (s/did/didn't/)
[17:05] <os_> hi
[17:06] <os_> can i install ubuntu on a nokia phone which use symbian
[17:06] <os_> ?
[17:12] <os_> any answers?
[17:14] <scientes> os_, must be armv7
[17:14] <os_> yeh it is
[17:15] <scientes> oh, symbian is a totally differn't OS
[17:15] <os_> i know
[17:15] <scientes> so it would be a PITA
[17:15] <os_> can i replace it with ubuntu?
[17:15] <scientes> well you would have to be able to modify the bootloader
[17:16] <scientes> and you would have to have hardware support in linux for all your devices
[17:16] <scientes> and chipset
[17:16] <scientes> and arm hardware support really isn't that good
[17:16] <os_> :(
[17:16] <scientes> i mean there is good support for some hardware, but it isn't like x86, where one kernel you can just boot and see
[17:17] <scientes> there are like a bazillion differn't incompatible kernel configs, so you have to compile for your specific chipset
[17:17] <os_> :(
[17:17] <os_> ok
[17:17] <scientes> and anyways, ubuntu isn't really targeted at super-small devices and those type of input methods, although work is very appreciated
[17:18] <os_> ok
[17:18] <os_> thanks
[17:18] <scientes> if you want to work on arm, i recommend one of theses well-supported boards: http://www.linaro.org/engineering/getting-started/low-cost-development-boards/
[17:18] <scientes> here is a netbook: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100/
[17:19] <os_> ok
[17:19] <os_> thanks
[17:19] <scientes> linux/ubuntu can be installed in a chroot on android
[17:20] <scientes> canonical is even selling it http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[17:21] <scientes> so, hardware support is actually pretty good, sans graphics drivers, but its pretty complex--and the way arm works, chips arn't neccicarily compatible, its not like you have a standardized base like x86
[17:33] <LetoThe2nd> probably saying "there is no one-click-installer" would have sufficed. or a plain "no"
[17:33] <LetoThe2nd> ;P
[17:34] <scientes> LetoThe2nd, indeed