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uvirtbot`New bug: #999614 in php5 (main) "new SoapClient() with connection_timeout = NULL breaks multi-dimensional arrays" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99961404:26
crasshas anyone needed to append some dns entries to a pppd created link? with dhcp its easy, but pppd seems unworkable without some major changes.05:34
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SyriaHi, VirtualBox Failed to open the X11 display!07:49
SyriaPlease help me with this.07:52
SyriaSSH -X, Found it, Thank you.07:56
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uvirtbot`New bug: #1024926 in clamav (main) "package clamav-base 0.97.3+dfsg-2.1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102492611:16
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RoyKanyone that knows a good online backup solution? crashtest looks ok, but it's dead slow, ETA for backing up 2,3TB is 29 days(!), and I'm on a 60Mbps symmetric line15:14
patdk-lapall of them will go like that royk15:39
* RoyK is just a bit worried about restore - waiting a month for restore would be rather bad15:46
patdk-lapya, why I don't like any of the current solutions15:46
patdk-lapsome people will offer to ship you a 2tb restore drive though15:46
patdk-lapas I already have an offsite rack, I just do it myself it there15:47
RoyKI have an offsite server, but not with very much space15:47
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glosoliHey kinda stupid question, but how can I set Up Ubuntu server without having monitor ?16:06
trimetaglosoli: You'll probably need a monitor during the installation, but after that if you've got ssh set up you can remove the monitor and administer it that way.16:06
glosolitrimeta: ash that what I was wondering for16:06
trimetaThere may be a way to perform the entire installation remotely...I've never tried. I don't know if any of the LiveCDs automatically set up ssh.16:07
glosolitrimeta: ah no prob16:08
KatronixHi all, can someone point me to a good page to learn how to configure my ubuntu server to be name servers?16:08
glosoliwas just curiosity mainly16:08
RoyKglosoli: try a serial console16:09
RoyK!dns16:10
ubottuTo set up a Domain Name Service see the !serverguide - https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dns.html16:10
glosoliWell I am not doing it at the moment, just thinking of16:10
glosolias I will be in need tomorrow16:10
Katronixthanks Roy16:10
trimetaOut of curiosity, why does the zfsutils package only install helpful system maintenance cronjobs on kfreebsd, not on regular Linux-based systems?16:13
RoyKtrimeta: ask the package maintainer...16:13
trimetaFair enough...it also seems like the Linux version is many versions behind, which may be related...but again, same answer.16:14
RoyKmhm - seems ubuntu 12.04 only has up to zpool v2316:14
RoyKwhich is something like two years old16:15
* RoyK uses illumos for zfs16:15
Katronixhttp://pastebin.com/DH03puUu should this work?16:15
trimetaillumos? What's that?16:15
RoyKtrimeta: opensolaris-descendant :)16:16
trimetaAh.16:16
RoyKtrimeta: it's the "kernel" of the free solaris-based distros around16:16
RoyKopenindiana, omnios, nextos, nexenta ...16:16
RoyKs/nextos/smartos/16:16
trimetaAlso, oops, I think I upgraded my zpool past the version that the FUSE module can handle...I'm using the zfs-native thing, which goes up to v28.16:17
trimetaI think I remember hearing about the continuation of Solaris, but I forgot what it was being called nowadays.16:17
RoyKtrimeta: oh, native zfs on linux? I've never tried that16:17
trimetaIt builds a kernel module with DKMS.16:17
RoyKtrimeta: solaris is solaris16:17
RoyKtrimeta: but opensolaris was forked to openindiana, and then illumos was separated as a new project for OS/Net (kernel + important userbits)16:18
trimetaAh...I've just stuck with Ubuntu, I like being able to use PPAs to add up-to-date software on top of a stable base.16:19
Katronixcan anyone look at that pastebin I put up?16:19
RoyKtrimeta: I use ubuntu for most stuff, but in my last job, I setup some 400TB spread out on seven storage servers - fun ;)16:20
RoyKall on openindiana...16:20
trimetaKatronix: I don't know much about DNS records, sorry...16:20
Katronixtrimeta np16:20
RoyKKatronix: $ORIGIN your.tld16:21
KatronixSorry Roy, I don't understand16:21
RoyKtry this http://pastebin.com/Etvf2hbB16:23
KatronixRoy OK I put that in, I suppose for now I would have to dig to the server to see if it worked?16:25
RoyKmake sure you updated serial16:25
Katronixyep I did16:26
Katronixthe server itself does not recognize the domain yet :(16:27
RoyKwhat's in the logs?16:29
KatronixRoyK http://pastebin.com/mvB8gdUe I guess lines 7 to 10 is the issue?16:31
RoyKwhat's on those lines?16:32
Katronixsorry I mean lines 7 to 10 of the pastebin results16:32
RoyKperhaps just change to $ORIGIN your.tld on top16:32
RoyKand drop the other16:33
KatronixJul 15 11:36:17 ubuntu named[31439]: /etc/bind/chrisamoody.com.zone:4: SOA record not at top of zone (chrisamoody.com.chrisamoody.com)16:37
KatronixJul 15 11:36:17 ubuntu named[31439]: zone chrisamoody.com/IN: loading from master file /etc/bind/chrisamoody.com.zone failed: not at top of zone16:37
Katronixso I guess getting closer16:37
RoyKoh, change back to $ORIGIN . at the top16:38
RoyKthen place $ORIGIN your.tld just after the SOA16:38
RoyK$ORIGIN chrisamoody.com, that is16:38
Katronixok16:38
Katronixso add it after the MX line?16:41
KatronixRoyK I have several lines saying in part, "/etc/bind/chrisamoody.com.zone:4: ignoring out-of-zone data (.)" different lines though16:44
RoyKwhat's on line 4?16:51
RoyKKatronix: pastebin the zone file again, please16:51
Katronixk16:51
Katronixhttp://pastebin.com/ALv5SNQJ16:52
Katronixbind complains about lines 4, 11, 12 and 1416:53
RoyKKatronix: try to move the origin line above those three records16:53
Katronixso move line 15 to line 10?16:53
RoyKsomething like that, yes16:54
RoyKotherwise '@' will reflect origin '.', which doesn't make sense16:54
Katronixhttp://pastebin.com/8PXFqRhv16:57
Katronixseems to still not like the SOA line16:58
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Skaaghey I have an old old old karmic server lying around, how do I get it upgraded to the next release?17:07
SkaagI'm going to try a do-release-upgrade and see if that works17:07
SkaagI'm asking because an apt-get update can no longer find most of the repositories.17:08
Katronixis your sources.list updated?17:08
guntbert!upgrade | Skaag do it step by step (or LTS->LTS)17:08
njinkamic has 5 years too17:09
njinof support17:09
guntbert!upgrade | Skaag17:09
ubottuSkaag: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade17:09
Skaagok let's see how the do-release-upgrade goes17:09
Skaagah thanks17:10
Skaagit's a server.17:10
RoyKKatronix: oh - the soa is wrong17:10
njinwhy it cannot found the repo17:10
RoyKchange the @ to your domain name17:10
RoyKSkaag: karmic hasn't been supported for a while ;)17:11
KatronixRoyK so it should be chrisamoody.com IN SOA ns1.chrisamoody.com. hostmaster.chrisamoody.com. ( ?17:11
RoyKtry that17:11
SkaagI know, i've been upgrading regularly all of my boxes but this one somehow remained because it's one of those customers who have totally embraced the "if it ain't broken don't touch it" idiom ;-)17:13
qman__karmic was not an LTS and did not get 5 years17:13
qman__you have to change your repositories to the old-releases to get updated17:13
KatronixRoyK so http://pastebin.com/q9f2GRji would indicate its successfully loaded?17:14
Skaagsomehow do-release-upgrade is working. according to the docs it was supposed to give me an error message, and I was then supposed to use -d to upgrade anyway. but it just seems to work without the -d switch.17:14
RoyKKatronix: looks right17:15
KatronixRoyK cool, is there a way to test it? leafdns still says it can't talk to ns1/ns2 but its also set to a ttl of 48 hours17:16
RoyKttl of 48 hours???17:16
Katronixhttp://leafdns.com/index.cgi?testid=A169BAD217:16
RoyKjust type "host chrisamoody.com x.x.x.x" where x.xx.x.x is your server's ip17:16
RoyKKatronix: have you added a zone section for that domain in the named.conf or named.conf.local file?17:17
RoyKwell, obviously, otherwise you wouldn't have gotten an error17:18
Katronixactually my named.conf file includes zone.conf which loads chrisamoody.com17:20
KatronixRoyK I guess its not working yet http://pastebin.com/v1Fd0RjH17:24
RoyKKatronix: no, guess something is wrong - sorry - tired17:27
Katronixnp, thanks for your efforts17:28
zakkanyone have a fast mirror of ubuntu-server 12.04 64?18:46
TheLordOfTimeuse the torrents?18:49
zakkwhere are they?18:50
seekwillhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads18:52
zakkthx18:52
seekwillI agree, it's a bit hard to find18:53
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resnomy boss is considering hosting our servers in our office, they are currently under someone elses control, what is a "good" internet speed to start with?19:59
resnoon a daily basis, i believe our site gets 1,000 hits or so20:01
Katronixresno, is this an intranet site? or an internet site?20:11
lifelessresno: the speed and bandwidth you need depends on : the peak concurrent traffic; the response time you want to give your users. 1000/day could mean 1000 in 5 minutes, for an end of day accounting site, or it might be totally random. You'll need to do more analysis to know.20:12
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Katronixanyone available to help me with a dns configuration issue?20:28
tonyyarussoKatronix: I can try20:29
KatronixCool, I'm trying to get chrisamoody.com to be recognized by the net20:29
tonyyarussoUm, pretty sure I see your issue20:31
Katronixcool20:31
KatronixI know the nameservers don't work, but the question is why?20:31
tonyyarussoKatronix: You have it set to use ns1.chrisamoody.com and ns2.chrisamoody.com to resolve the domain, but it needs to be able to resolve the domain to see those nameservers.20:31
tonyyarussoIn other words, you have a cart before the horse issue.20:31
Katronixok, how do I get it to recognize the nameservers?20:32
tonyyarussoSo you'll need to update that to either a) point to NS records on some other domain, or b) do it by IP address20:32
Katronixwell Ideally the server will be its own nameservers and hosting the domain20:33
Katronixit was working before I updated to percise20:33
tonyyarussoORLY?20:34
Katronixyep20:34
tonyyarussoThat...shouldn't have worked.20:34
tonyyarussoOr at least I don't think so.  I guess I could be wrong.20:35
Katronixlol, you mean a server can't be both a name server and a web host?20:35
qman__no, you need glue records20:35
tonyyarussonah, I mean the nameservers set on the domain itself.  But maybe they do.20:35
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tonyyarussoYeah, what he said20:35
qman__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System#Circular_dependencies_and_glue_records20:35
tonyyarussoI'm not entirely sure how registrar's create those, or how to check them though20:36
Katronixwell I have already registered the name servers20:36
qman__how you actually get it done depends on your registrar20:36
KatronixI just the need the server to start doing it20:36
Katronixso I guess first question, how do I get the nameservers to start working?20:37
qman__basically, when you have that circular dependency, your registrar needs glue records to provide the IP20:37
tonyyarussoAs an example, this is what the page for creating them looks like on my registrar's panel:  http://files.tonyyarusso.com/glue-records.png20:39
qman__so that when someone asks "who knows about asdf.com?" the parent server says "ns1.asdf.com, which btw, is 1.2.3.4"20:39
tonyyarussoIt's labeled "Name Server Registration" in their menu.20:39
Katronixyes I have done that already20:39
KatronixI'm now working on getting the server to work20:39
shaunoyou've specified a name, but no IP address20:40
qman__also can be called vanity name servers20:40
Katronixhttp://leafdns.com/index.cgi?testid=C476D608 shows the IPs for it20:40
tonyyarussoEh?  Why does it say not authoritative?20:41
qman__zone's not configured right20:41
Katronixwell that is what I'm trying to figure out , is why its not configured properly20:41
tonyyarussoCan you pastebin the relevant BIND configs?20:42
Katronixyep20:42
Katronixhttp://pastebin.com/K8EYeu3R20:43
qman__line 4, remove ns120:43
Katronixremove just ns1.chrisamoody.com ?20:44
qman__no, remove the ns1.20:44
qman__should just be chrisamoody.com in that spot20:44
Katronixok20:45
armaanHi folks ... while setting up LDAP i am getting this error--> ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)20:45
armaanhow should i resolve this ???20:45
Katronix host chrisamoody.com 173.193.86.158 still returns Host chrisamoody.com not found: 2(SERVFAIL) :(20:46
tonyyarussoKatronix: did you restart bind?20:47
Katronixyes20:47
tonyyarussoand increase the serial20:48
tonyyarusso?20:48
Katronixmay have forgotten that, one sec20:48
Katronixok no effect20:49
qman__try this http://pastebin.com/zN4SbKad20:49
tonyyarussoAlso, I don't think you want the domain in there twice.  Just "@ IN SOA chrisamoody.com. hostmaster.chrisamoody.com. ("20:49
tonyyarussoI have no idea what $ORIGIN is for20:50
Katronixme niether, someone else suggested it20:50
tonyyarussoqman__'s paste looks good to me20:51
Katronixone sec20:52
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Katronixchrisamoody.com mail is handled by 10 mail.chrisamoody.com. well I guess this is better :)20:54
tonyyarussoIndeed20:55
tonyyarussoanthony@timmins:~$ host chrisamoody.com20:55
tonyyarussochrisamoody.com has address 173.193.86.15820:55
tonyyarussochrisamoody.com mail is handled by 10 mail.chrisamoody.com.20:55
tonyyarussoYou're in business.20:55
Katronixnow getting a mismatched glue issue but we are doing better20:55
armaanHi folks ... while setting up LDAP i am getting this error--> ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)20:57
Katronixchrome says it doesn't know my site yet...20:57
koolheadd17armaan, is there specific documentation you are following20:57
tonyyarussoKatronix: is 173.193.86.158 correct for your web host?20:58
jacobwarmaan: sudo ldap* -h localhost -Y EXTERNAL ...20:58
Katronixyes20:58
jacobw-Y specifies an SASL mechanism, EXTERNAL is 'let root in'20:59
armaankoolheadd17: http://comtech247.net/2012/05/13/how-to-set-up-an-ldap-server-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts/20:59
tonyyarussoKatronix: is Apache running?20:59
armaankoolheadd17: also tried it21:00
Katronixtonyyarusso yes21:00
tonyyarussoKatronix: Actually, hrm, yes it is.  Now you have Apache redirecting http://chrisamoody.com/ to http://www.chrisamoody.com/, and www isn't resolving.21:00
Katronixhmmm, ok will work on that21:00
tonyyarussoIt is properly looking at your nameservers for it though, so something in the BIND config for that subdomain.21:01
Katronixshould the two zone files be basically the same?21:01
tonyyarussoIt's not a separate zone21:01
tonyyarussoit should be in the file you were working on before21:01
tonyyarussoUnless you have a REALLY good reason to maintain a subzone.21:01
qman__delegation would be the only good reason I know of21:02
koolheadd17armaan, please check ubuntu server guide21:02
koolheadd17it has a section openldap21:03
r0thakoolheadd17: rofl essentially saying RTFM21:03
qman__we can't support $random_blog_guide21:03
qman__following the server guide first, and other sanctioned resources, is important21:04
koolheadd17qman__,  +121:04
jacobwrtfm is a valid response21:04
koolheadd17r0tha,  jacobw  nopes i don`t see it that way21:05
qman__especially with something as complicated as openldap21:05
armaanjacobw: it says -h not compatible with -H21:05
koolheadd17age for RTFM are over now :)21:05
armaankoolheadd17: okiez :)21:05
jacobwif were, there would be no manuals21:06
koolheadd17jacobw, i meant to say we are more tolerant these days. :)21:07
r0thakoolheadd17: i mean RTFM is more of a benefit for everyone.21:09
qman__that's not to say random blog guides aren't useful, because they are, but having not written and never used said random blog guide, I can't help you with it21:09
r0thaif the manual is unclear it should be reviewed and revised21:09
koolheadd17r0tha, qman__ +1 i just feel rude to say RTFM :)21:10
Katronixyay my site is back up21:10
koolheadd17Katronix, was it some apache issue21:11
Katronixkoolheadd17 no I just had to remove the code to for www.chrisamoody.com21:12
koolheadd17oh k21:12
JenniferB2hi folks... if I install ubuntu-server lts ( latest ) ... can I install gnome 2 on top of it thorugh apt-get install ?21:19
qman__nope21:20
qman__you'd have to compile it or get it from a third party, ubuntu only has gnome3 in its repositories21:21
JenniferB2yes... but is it possible ? stable through other repositoroes ?21:21
qman__in theory but it wouldn't be a supported configuration21:22
qman__I recommend lubuntu as an alternative21:23
JenniferB2why not xubuntu ?21:31
JenniferB2i need it as desktop computer21:31
JenniferB2not actually a server21:31
TheLordOfTimeJenniferB2:  you could install any Desktop version and install server packages on it21:32
TheLordOfTimeJenniferB2:  but GNOME2 is no longer part of Ubuntu21:33
qman__you could use xubuntu, but I like lubuntu better21:33
TheLordOfTimeand I like Kubuntu, so...21:33
TheLordOfTimeits a personal preference of desktop envirionment21:33
qman__lubuntu can have a pretty similar feel to gnome2 if you want it to21:34
JenniferB2TheLordOfTime: I dont want all these fancy pancy new stuff ... i am a developer.. i dont need fancy big ugly buttons... kubuntu video i saw was a turnoff ... ubuntu 12 as well.21:34
qman__then you will like lubuntu21:35
TheLordOfTimeJenniferB2:  gnome-shell or gnome-classic in Ubuntu21:35
JenniferB2nice ... lts to ?21:35
TheLordOfTimei needed Kubuntu for stuff21:35
TheLordOfTimebut personally i do everything via CLI21:35
TheLordOfTimeexcept IRC21:35
TheLordOfTimeJenniferB2:  Kubuntu, Lubuntu, etc. 12.04 will be LTS21:35
JenniferB2TheLordOfTime: I heard that gnome-classic is a bit buggy21:35
TheLordOfTimeJenniferB2:  it is, that's why i said gnome-shell too :P21:35
JenniferB2TheLordOfTime: haha21:35
TheLordOfTimeas for them being LTS, some might be community maintained21:35
qman__I don't think the lubuntu bits are LTS, but you'll get base system updates21:36
qman__and will be able to upgrade to the next LTS directly21:36
JenniferB2http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1204-now-available21:37
JenniferB2qman__: yes.. it says that on the page21:37
qman__practically, I don't think it makes much difference21:37
qman__the important part is the kernel and base system updates, and the applications don't usually get much love later on anyway21:38
JenniferB2qman__: yes.. I am sure ... is lubuntu nicer than xubuntu ?21:38
qman__in my opinion, yes21:38
qman__but there are plenty who disagree21:38
qman__but it's all free, so give it a try21:39
TheLordOfTimewhat qman__ said about LTS21:40
TheLordOfTimeparts of it won't be LTS-supported21:40
qman__but those parts don't normally get updates that late in the cycle anyway21:40
TheLordOfTimemhm21:42
JenniferB2ok... this is an off question .. but what about linux mint ... could it be said it is equally stable as ubuntu or likely less ?21:43
JenniferB2I want to use this desktop for years21:43
TheLordOfTimeMINT MUST DIE21:47
TheLordOfTimei mean...21:47
TheLordOfTime!mint21:47
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org21:47
TheLordOfTime(continuing to ask about mint in Ubuntu channels... well... not exactly advised)21:47
JenniferB2hehe .. it is based on ubuntu!21:47
TheLordOfTimethere is ##linux here if you *really* want to risk it with questions about mint21:47
TheLordOfTimedo not make me pull the factoid out again21:48
TheLordOfTimeor ping ops21:48
JenniferB2hehe21:48
JenniferB2#linux21:48
TheLordOfTime(they will just say the same thing i just did - mint support in ubuntu channels is bad)21:48
JenniferB2sorry21:48
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uvirtbot`New bug: #1025066 in samba (main) "package winbind 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102506623:06
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