| famelico | hi | 00:31 |
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| famelico | people im looking for Ubuntu Studio 9.10, the one that has the realtime kernel | 00:32 |
| famelico | can you give me an still-active link in order to download it ? | 00:32 |
| famelico | thanks | 00:32 |
| ailo | famelico: Try puredyne | 00:39 |
| ailo | Same kernel | 00:39 |
| ailo | based on Ubuntu 9.10 | 00:40 |
| famelico | thx for your response | 00:40 |
| famelico | i tried | 00:40 |
| famelico | but cant install to my hard disk | 00:40 |
| ailo | Why is that? | 00:40 |
| famelico | and the ramdisk is not the best for my older machine | 00:40 |
| ailo | And why do you need the realtime kernel? | 00:40 |
| famelico | i installed it but didnt work on real time | 00:41 |
| famelico | i need it for live audio tasks | 00:41 |
| famelico | i play on hexter whith my midi controller | 00:41 |
| ailo | I don't understand. You installed puredyne, or you didn't? | 00:41 |
| famelico | yes i did | 00:41 |
| ailo | So, what was the problem? | 00:42 |
| famelico | but didnt work (once installed on my hard disk) on real time | 00:42 |
| famelico | just sucked | 00:42 |
| ailo | famelico: It's the exact same kernel, anyway | 00:42 |
| ailo | famelico: If there is a problem with realtime privilege, you should check that first | 00:43 |
| famelico | okok! | 00:43 |
| famelico | can you give some advices in order to set it properly on ubuntu? | 00:43 |
| famelico | i used to have lubuntu | 00:43 |
| famelico | and once i could put the real time to work | 00:43 |
| famelico | but a week ago it screwed up | 00:44 |
| ailo | famelico: Two things. 1. User must be in audio group 2. There needs to be a file that gives Audio group realtime privilege | 00:44 |
| famelico | yes! | 00:44 |
| famelico | the file is /etc/security/limits.conf | 00:44 |
| famelico | but didnt work for me! | 00:44 |
| famelico | is there any other thing? | 00:45 |
| ailo | That was the old file, can't remember if it was still used | 00:45 |
| famelico | oh! | 00:45 |
| ailo | Either /etc/security/limits.conf, or /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf | 00:45 |
| ailo | Not both | 00:45 |
| famelico | okok | 00:45 |
| ailo | That's all you need. It will work after rebooting | 00:46 |
| famelico | OKOK! | 00:46 |
| famelico | i 'll try again! | 00:46 |
| famelico | thanks! | 00:46 |
| ailo | I found puredyne very good for older machines | 00:46 |
| famelico | i ll stay conline | 00:46 |
| famelico | yes yes! is very good booting it live | 00:47 |
| famelico | but in live mode it takes me 256 mb ram for a virtual disk | 00:47 |
| famelico | and i have not much ram | 00:48 |
| BlackBass | Hello, quick question, as a matter of preferance, LMMS or Ardour? | 01:48 |
| ailo | BlackBass: Ardoud is greate for multichannel recording, mixing and mastering, while LMMS is probably more suited if you like soft synths, etc | 01:59 |
| ailo | BlackBass: There are also, qtractor, rosegarden, Hydrogen (great for using as a drum machine), etc | 01:59 |
| BlackBass | I'm moving from using FL Studio on windows to Linux, so I'm basically looking for an equivalent to that | 02:00 |
| BlackBass | Basically, an all around sequencer/synthesizer | 02:01 |
| ailo | BlackBass: Don't think you'll find something equivalent. You'll probably want to use Hydrogen for drums anyway. It has it's own tracker that you can sync with the other programs | 02:03 |
| ailo | BlackBass: As for the rest, just look around to find which suits you best | 02:03 |
| ailo | You can always sync many sequencers using jack transport | 02:03 |
| famelico | hi | 02:51 |
| famelico | I installed lubuntu and put the audio configuration | 02:51 |
| famelico | with an rt kernel | 02:51 |
| famelico | and without | 02:51 |
| famelico | but i keep getting xruns | 02:51 |
| ailo | famelico: Does jack complain that it can't lock down memory, etc? | 02:52 |
| famelico | nonono | 02:52 |
| ailo | famelico: So, you have realtime privilege | 02:52 |
| famelico | yes! | 02:53 |
| ailo | famelico: What setting are you using? | 02:53 |
| ailo | famelico: frames/buffer | 02:53 |
| famelico | 128 frames | 02:53 |
| famelico | 2 periods buffer | 02:53 |
| famelico | and 960000 khz | 02:53 |
| ailo | famelico: That should work, even on older machines | 02:53 |
| famelico | yes | 02:53 |
| ailo | Ah, but try 256 then | 02:53 |
| famelico | but im getting xruns | 02:53 |
| famelico | xruns i didnt used to have | 02:54 |
| ailo | 96000 will give you 1/2 latency compared to 441000 | 02:54 |
| famelico | i dont know what did i touch a week ago | 02:54 |
| famelico | i used to work on 32 frames | 02:54 |
| famelico | and no xruns | 02:54 |
| famelico | but now . . . its awfull | 02:54 |
| ailo | famelico: What version of Lubuntu? | 02:55 |
| famelico | the last one | 02:55 |
| ailo | famelico: Which kernel? | 02:55 |
| famelico | kernel 3.02 | 02:55 |
| ailo | realtime, or -lowlatency? | 02:55 |
| famelico | and my kernel is 3.14-rt | 02:55 |
| famelico | 3.02 is the generic | 02:55 |
| ailo | You can't get good performance with the generic anyway | 02:55 |
| famelico | nonono | 02:56 |
| ailo | famelico: Try linux-lowlatency | 02:56 |
| famelico | nonono | 02:56 |
| famelico | dont work | 02:56 |
| famelico | i tried it on tango studio | 02:56 |
| ailo | What do you mean, don't work? | 02:56 |
| ailo | linux-lowlatency is the standard kernel for Ubuntu Studio | 02:56 |
| famelico | i dont get xruns but i get a fuzzy sound | 02:56 |
| ailo | It's mostly as good as -realtime | 02:56 |
| ailo | That's not because of the kernel | 02:57 |
| ailo | Try it | 02:57 |
| ailo | Also, I don't know Tango Studio | 02:57 |
| ailo | -lowlatency is specifically for Ubuntu Studio | 02:57 |
| famelico | there's some tweaking im missing | 02:57 |
| famelico | for the rt | 02:57 |
| ailo | famelico: Maybe you need rtirc script? | 02:58 |
| ailo | famelico: You need to start with boot parameter "threadirqs" for it to work | 02:58 |
| ailo | famelico: -lowlatency has this builtin | 02:58 |
| famelico | the last time i didnt use it and it work perfectly | 02:58 |
| ailo | Ok | 02:58 |
| famelico | i real about ir | 02:58 |
| famelico | i read about it | 02:58 |
| famelico | i dont think i need it | 02:59 |
| ailo | It's only needed if you have irq problems | 02:59 |
| famelico | okok nono not my problem | 02:59 |
| ailo | I can't imagine any tweaking other than that | 02:59 |
| famelico | can i pass to you the messages from my jackd? | 02:59 |
| famelico | the console messages | 03:00 |
| ailo | famelico: Please do try -lowlatency. Also, kernels older than 2.6.39 are a bit slower | 03:00 |
| famelico | maybe you can figure what if the problem! | 03:00 |
| ailo | famelico: Sure, paste it | 03:00 |
| famelico | thanks | 03:00 |
| famelico | im sending it to you! | 03:00 |
| famelico | just a minute! | 03:00 |
| famelico | here the console says (when starting Lubuntu) thah my kernel need app armor 2.4 compatibility patch | 03:02 |
| famelico | pastebin.com/4QG3Anft | 03:05 |
| ailo | famelico: Do you use the pulseaudio-module-jack? | 03:06 |
| famelico | NONO | 03:07 |
| famelico | im using ALSA | 03:07 |
| ailo | lubuntu doesn't have pulseaudio, or you uninstalled it? | 03:07 |
| famelico | no i didnt use pulseaudio. im using Lubuntu with alsa | 03:08 |
| ailo | famelico: You could ask about the jack log on #jack | 03:09 |
| famelico | okok | 03:09 |
| ailo | famelico: Still, I was just wondering, does Lubuntu come with pulseaudio preinstalled, or you removed it? | 03:10 |
| ailo | I mean, if so, did you remove it.. | 03:10 |
| ailo | I think most Ubuntu systems use pulseaudio by default these days | 03:11 |
| ailo | Even Debian | 03:11 |
| famelico | nonoon | 03:12 |
| famelico | is alsa what ubuntu uses | 03:12 |
| famelico | i have lubuntu and ubuntu | 03:12 |
| famelico | always i see alsa | 03:12 |
| ailo | famelico: Ubuntu uses pulseaudio for it desktop system. Not alsa | 03:12 |
| ailo | I'm not talking about jack settings now | 03:13 |
| ailo | famelico: Do you see pulseaudio in qjackctl "Connect" when you start jackd? | 03:13 |
| famelico | nono | 03:14 |
| famelico | do you know any other distro for audio with the rt kernel? | 03:18 |
| famelico | i cant put this to work | 03:18 |
| ailo | famelico: Did you try -lowlatency? | 03:18 |
| ailo | famelico: I really recommend you to try it | 03:18 |
| ailo | Also, I don't think you will find a rt kernel older than 2.6.39 that is better, or much better | 03:18 |
| ailo | famelico: Most of rt is in generic already | 03:19 |
| ailo | famelico: But, to make use of it, you need to configure it for the build | 03:19 |
| ailo | famelico: hence = -lowlatency | 03:19 |
| famelico | ok | 03:20 |
| famelico | ill try | 03:20 |
| famelico | but now i dont have the time to compile the kernel anyway | 03:21 |
| ailo | famelico: You don't need to compile. Just install it | 03:29 |
| ailo | famelico: linux-lowlatency | 03:29 |
| ailo | famelico: Here's a simple guide on building an older -lowlatency for preference | 03:40 |
| ailo | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BuildOldLowlatency | 03:40 |
| studio-user703 | hola | 19:45 |
| studio-user703 | alguien habla español? | 19:45 |
| Unit193 | !es | 19:46 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 19:46 |
| studio-user703 | gracias soy nuevo y se siente bien que alguien conteste y de indicaciones muchas gracias | 19:47 |
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| echonize | Hello folks! | 22:56 |
| echonize | Any Ableton guys here? | 22:57 |
| holstein | im aware of ableton, and have used it years ago... i dont think they make a linux version though | 23:08 |
| echonize | I just tried to run Live 8.2.7 with Wine, worked quite well despite the small graphical bugs. | 23:12 |
| echonize | I also tested Audiomulch 2 with Wine, worked really well without bugs for me. | 23:12 |
| holstein | cool.. maybe check and/or report at wineHQ | 23:12 |
| holstein | i personally use and support native software | 23:13 |
| echonize | I would too, but they lack some features. | 23:13 |
| echonize | Its just that ive used to quite heavy apps, like Cubase for example. | 23:13 |
| holstein | what features? | 23:14 |
| holstein | they are open, add the features | 23:14 |
| holstein | or request them... | 23:14 |
| echonize | I wish i knew how to code stuff. | 23:14 |
| holstein | check out #opensourcemusicians when you get a chance.. lots of folks there making music | 23:14 |
| echonize | Okay. | 23:15 |
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