[00:31] hi [00:32] people im looking for Ubuntu Studio 9.10, the one that has the realtime kernel [00:32] can you give me an still-active link in order to download it ? [00:32] thanks [00:39] famelico: Try puredyne [00:39] Same kernel [00:40] based on Ubuntu 9.10 [00:40] thx for your response [00:40] i tried [00:40] but cant install to my hard disk [00:40] Why is that? [00:40] and the ramdisk is not the best for my older machine [00:40] And why do you need the realtime kernel? [00:41] i installed it but didnt work on real time [00:41] i need it for live audio tasks [00:41] i play on hexter whith my midi controller [00:41] I don't understand. You installed puredyne, or you didn't? [00:41] yes i did [00:42] So, what was the problem? [00:42] but didnt work (once installed on my hard disk) on real time [00:42] just sucked [00:42] famelico: It's the exact same kernel, anyway [00:43] famelico: If there is a problem with realtime privilege, you should check that first [00:43] okok! [00:43] can you give some advices in order to set it properly on ubuntu? [00:43] i used to have lubuntu [00:43] and once i could put the real time to work [00:44] but a week ago it screwed up [00:44] famelico: Two things. 1. User must be in audio group 2. There needs to be a file that gives Audio group realtime privilege [00:44] yes! [00:44] the file is /etc/security/limits.conf [00:44] but didnt work for me! [00:45] is there any other thing? [00:45] That was the old file, can't remember if it was still used [00:45] oh! [00:45] Either /etc/security/limits.conf, or /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf [00:45] Not both [00:45] okok [00:46] That's all you need. It will work after rebooting [00:46] OKOK! [00:46] i 'll try again! [00:46] thanks! [00:46] I found puredyne very good for older machines [00:46] i ll stay conline [00:47] yes yes! is very good booting it live [00:47] but in live mode it takes me 256 mb ram for a virtual disk [00:48] and i have not much ram [01:48] Hello, quick question, as a matter of preferance, LMMS or Ardour? [01:59] BlackBass: Ardoud is greate for multichannel recording, mixing and mastering, while LMMS is probably more suited if you like soft synths, etc [01:59] BlackBass: There are also, qtractor, rosegarden, Hydrogen (great for using as a drum machine), etc [02:00] I'm moving from using FL Studio on windows to Linux, so I'm basically looking for an equivalent to that [02:01] Basically, an all around sequencer/synthesizer [02:03] BlackBass: Don't think you'll find something equivalent. You'll probably want to use Hydrogen for drums anyway. It has it's own tracker that you can sync with the other programs [02:03] BlackBass: As for the rest, just look around to find which suits you best [02:03] You can always sync many sequencers using jack transport [02:51] hi [02:51] I installed lubuntu and put the audio configuration [02:51] with an rt kernel [02:51] and without [02:51] but i keep getting xruns [02:52] famelico: Does jack complain that it can't lock down memory, etc? [02:52] nonono [02:52] famelico: So, you have realtime privilege [02:53] yes! [02:53] famelico: What setting are you using? [02:53] famelico: frames/buffer [02:53] 128 frames [02:53] 2 periods buffer [02:53] and 960000 khz [02:53] famelico: That should work, even on older machines [02:53] yes [02:53] Ah, but try 256 then [02:53] but im getting xruns [02:54] xruns i didnt used to have [02:54] 96000 will give you 1/2 latency compared to 441000 [02:54] i dont know what did i touch a week ago [02:54] i used to work on 32 frames [02:54] and no xruns [02:54] but now . . . its awfull [02:55] famelico: What version of Lubuntu? [02:55] the last one [02:55] famelico: Which kernel? [02:55] kernel 3.02 [02:55] realtime, or -lowlatency? [02:55] and my kernel is 3.14-rt [02:55] 3.02 is the generic [02:55] You can't get good performance with the generic anyway [02:56] nonono [02:56] famelico: Try linux-lowlatency [02:56] nonono [02:56] dont work [02:56] i tried it on tango studio [02:56] What do you mean, don't work? [02:56] linux-lowlatency is the standard kernel for Ubuntu Studio [02:56] i dont get xruns but i get a fuzzy sound [02:56] It's mostly as good as -realtime [02:57] That's not because of the kernel [02:57] Try it [02:57] Also, I don't know Tango Studio [02:57] -lowlatency is specifically for Ubuntu Studio [02:57] there's some tweaking im missing [02:57] for the rt [02:58] famelico: Maybe you need rtirc script? [02:58] famelico: You need to start with boot parameter "threadirqs" for it to work [02:58] famelico: -lowlatency has this builtin [02:58] the last time i didnt use it and it work perfectly [02:58] Ok [02:58] i real about ir [02:58] i read about it [02:59] i dont think i need it [02:59] It's only needed if you have irq problems [02:59] okok nono not my problem [02:59] I can't imagine any tweaking other than that [02:59] can i pass to you the messages from my jackd? [03:00] the console messages [03:00] famelico: Please do try -lowlatency. Also, kernels older than 2.6.39 are a bit slower [03:00] maybe you can figure what if the problem! [03:00] famelico: Sure, paste it [03:00] thanks [03:00] im sending it to you! [03:00] just a minute! [03:02] here the console says (when starting Lubuntu) thah my kernel need app armor 2.4 compatibility patch [03:05] pastebin.com/4QG3Anft [03:06] famelico: Do you use the pulseaudio-module-jack? [03:07] NONO [03:07] im using ALSA [03:07] lubuntu doesn't have pulseaudio, or you uninstalled it? [03:08] no i didnt use pulseaudio. im using Lubuntu with alsa [03:09] famelico: You could ask about the jack log on #jack [03:09] okok [03:10] famelico: Still, I was just wondering, does Lubuntu come with pulseaudio preinstalled, or you removed it? [03:10] I mean, if so, did you remove it.. [03:11] I think most Ubuntu systems use pulseaudio by default these days [03:11] Even Debian [03:12] nonoon [03:12] is alsa what ubuntu uses [03:12] i have lubuntu and ubuntu [03:12] always i see alsa [03:12] famelico: Ubuntu uses pulseaudio for it desktop system. Not alsa [03:13] I'm not talking about jack settings now [03:13] famelico: Do you see pulseaudio in qjackctl "Connect" when you start jackd? [03:14] nono [03:18] do you know any other distro for audio with the rt kernel? [03:18] i cant put this to work [03:18] famelico: Did you try -lowlatency? [03:18] famelico: I really recommend you to try it [03:18] Also, I don't think you will find a rt kernel older than 2.6.39 that is better, or much better [03:19] famelico: Most of rt is in generic already [03:19] famelico: But, to make use of it, you need to configure it for the build [03:19] famelico: hence = -lowlatency [03:20] ok [03:20] ill try [03:21] but now i dont have the time to compile the kernel anyway [03:29] famelico: You don't need to compile. Just install it [03:29] famelico: linux-lowlatency [03:40] famelico: Here's a simple guide on building an older -lowlatency for preference [03:40] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BuildOldLowlatency [19:45] hola [19:45] alguien habla español? [19:46] !es [19:46] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [19:47] gracias soy nuevo y se siente bien que alguien conteste y de indicaciones muchas gracias === ailo_ is now known as ailo [22:56] Hello folks! [22:57] Any Ableton guys here? [23:08] im aware of ableton, and have used it years ago... i dont think they make a linux version though [23:12] I just tried to run Live 8.2.7 with Wine, worked quite well despite the small graphical bugs. [23:12] I also tested Audiomulch 2 with Wine, worked really well without bugs for me. [23:12] cool.. maybe check and/or report at wineHQ [23:13] i personally use and support native software [23:13] I would too, but they lack some features. [23:13] Its just that ive used to quite heavy apps, like Cubase for example. [23:14] what features? [23:14] they are open, add the features [23:14] or request them... [23:14] I wish i knew how to code stuff. [23:14] check out #opensourcemusicians when you get a chance.. lots of folks there making music [23:15] Okay. === _dancer is now known as MOSMarauder