[13:53] <mgariepy> stgraber, good morning
[13:54] <stgraber> mgariepy: morning
[13:54] <mgariepy> have you made some progress with the tablet this weekend ?
[13:55] <stgraber> not really. Well, I know how the bootloader and the firmware works but that still doesn't help booting my own kernel (or at least booting it in a way where I can see what's happening)
[13:55] <mgariepy> kk
[13:55] <stgraber> the Kubuntu guy was supposed to help me yesterday but that didn't happen, I guess he got busy with something else
[14:21] <stgraber> highvoltage: first Edubuntu deployment in India (well, first one on the map)
[14:21] <highvoltage> nice
[14:22] <highvoltage> I guess he didn't really make progress either then
[14:23] <stgraber> well, he's supposed to have something that boots at least, which I don't
[14:23] <stgraber> so it's getting kind of frustrating...
[14:24] <highvoltage> well, we all want something that works, but there's limits to how far you can push some things. it's not worth while getting frustrated about.
[14:24] <stgraber> the frustration is mostly cause by me trying to guess how to make that stuff work when rbelem already managed to do that... it's just that he's too busy to tell me apparently...
[14:25] <highvoltage> I don't know him, is he usually on IRC?
[14:26] <stgraber> yeah
[14:26] <highvoltage> yeah I guess it's also frustrating that you couldn't use time that you had available for it
[14:26] <highvoltage> c'est la vie
[14:28] <highvoltage> I put in holidays for today and forgot about it
[14:28] <stgraber> :)
[14:53] <jbicha> hi, I just added a deployment of 1 and I think it worked but these errors showed up on the page: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1094994/
[14:56] <stgraber> doh, yeah, these errors should have showed up on my side, not yours... they are linked to someone logging in without SSO in the admin UI
[14:57] <stgraber> fixed to hide all errors from now on :)
[14:57] <stgraber> and accepted your deployment
[16:19] <bencer> highvoltage: stgraber are you around guys?
[17:02] <highvoltage> bencer: yep, we were just talking about you a bit earlier :)
[17:03] <highvoltage> bencer: well, I'm going to take a nap in a bit because I'm severely sleep deprived atm
[17:05] <bencer> ok np
[19:18] <bencer> highvoltage: let me know when u r back from your nap :)
[20:52] <highvoltage> bencer: I'm back(ish)
[20:52] <bencer> i'm going to be around until late, so take your glass of milk first :)
[21:03] <ajmitch> highvoltage: fun trip? :)
[21:18] <highvoltage> ajmitch: yes, totally, except for the last bit where I got stuck at the last leg of the trip, but it was worth it :)
[21:18] <ajmitch> heh
[21:18] <ajmitch> missed connection?
[21:19] <highvoltage> flights being cancelled due to bad weather... then my flight got through somehow, then angry mob of passengers around the airport caused more delays, then storm delayed us more, then angry people on the plane delayed take-off more
[21:20] <ajmitch> why were they angry? just because of delays?
[21:21] <ajmitch> I see that despite you being off in a foreign land, you've still got far more ARB stuff done lately than I have :)
[21:45] <bencer> stgraber: highvoltage
[21:45] <bencer> we were discussing today the stoppers we have to upload zentyal almost 3.0 to 12.10
[21:45] <bencer> first of all
[21:45] <bencer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/82853
[21:45] <bencer> this blocks our zentyal-users module
[21:46] <bencer> we need that, to sync samba4 internal ldap and slapd
[21:46] <bencer> its just enabling the plugin in the rules and adding the control stuff
[21:46] <bencer> its super safe
[21:46] <bencer> i was going to comment later on that launchpad issue
[21:46] <bencer> but not sure if you can do something else
[21:48]  * highvoltage looks at that bug report
[22:01] <highvoltage> bencer: stgraber is looking at the packaging in ubuntu and why it's in debian but not in ubuntu
[22:02] <bencer> coolio
[22:03] <bencer> after that
[22:03] <highvoltage> bencer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/82853/comments/12 seems like the problem for that
[22:04] <highvoltage> bencer: oh, one moment...
[22:05] <stgraber> right, so apparently it's actually building with heimdal-dev nowadays so I guess the binary package could be reintroduced, though it'd be best to talk to Chuck Short about it (zul on IRC)
[22:05] <bencer> look heimdal-devel is already there
[22:05] <bencer> yup
[22:05] <bencer> exactly
[22:06] <bencer> cool
[22:11] <bencer> highvoltage: stgraber next blocking item, is samba4
[22:11] <bencer> we have 2 packaging issues
[22:11] <bencer> we will need beta3
[22:11] <bencer> and if possible push a patch upstream
[22:13] <bencer> i'm going to try to submit the packaging debdiffs today
[22:13] <bencer> but this is something still we have to do
[22:18] <stgraber> bencer: ok, are you talking with jelmer?
[22:18] <bencer> nop, that was going to be my action for that
[22:18] <bencer> since i know him already
[22:18] <stgraber> bencer: he's involved upstream and dealing with some of the packaging in Debian and Ubuntu (he works for Canonical but samba4 isn't part of his work time)
[22:19] <stgraber> ok, good, so we have the same samba4 contact ;)
[22:19] <bencer> anyway, if we dont get this patch
[22:19] <bencer> the problem would be the sync of existing users in slapd
[22:19] <bencer> when samba4 is installed afterwards
[22:20] <bencer> if upstream doesnt accept this patch in time to 12.10
[22:20] <bencer> would be a known issue
[22:20] <bencer> but not a big deal
[22:21] <bencer> stgraber: and last thing
[22:21] <bencer> printers is going to be broken
[22:21] <bencer> because
[22:21] <bencer> cups is compiled with krb mit
[22:21] <bencer> and currently samba4 is compiled without cups support
[22:21] <bencer> because of that
[22:22] <stgraber> hmm, ok... I thought heimdal and mit got close enough nowadays that most of the time it doesn't really matter which time you build/link against, but I don't know how the cups/samba integration is done
[22:23] <stgraber> bencer: btw, I suppose you know that zentyal in quantal simply won't start at the moment right?
[22:23] <bencer> stgraber: ?
[22:24] <bencer> current packages are prepared for precise
[22:24] <bencer> were not tested yet on quantal
[22:25] <bencer> i plan to upload new packages in 2 days
[22:25] <stgraber> bencer: over the weekend I tried installing zentyal-core zentyal-dhcp zentyal-dns and zentyal-users in a quantal container and the install failed as the init scripts failed to start the daemons
[22:25] <stgraber> ok, good, I can wait 2 days :)
[22:25] <bencer> about dhcp i was told someone was going to upload a fix
[22:25] <bencer> but we will upload new versions
[22:26] <bencer> i think all that has been fixed in master, not sure
[22:26] <bencer> stgraber: i plan to upload the same modules but printers
[22:26] <bencer> and plus nut
[22:27] <bencer> and maybe jabber+mail
[22:27] <bencer> do you have interest in any module in special that is not currently in the archive but in the ppa?
[22:28] <stgraber> I haven't looked at the list in the PPA, but intially I'm planning on just using dhcpd/dns/samba4+user
[22:29] <stgraber> that's the minimal set that we need to build a working edubuntu-server. We can then extend that set to get new features later on
[22:30] <bencer> stgraber: what about webserver?
[22:30] <bencer> but its a supper simple module
[22:32] <stgraber> not too sure how we are going to work on the webapps part of edubuntu server yet. The various services will be sitting in different containers, but we might end up using something like zentyal-webserver to configure the reverse proxy
[22:33] <bencer> doesnt support reverse proxy :)
[22:42]  * highvoltage catches up
[23:07] <highvoltage> bencer: doesn't support a reverse proxy or just doesn't implement it?
[23:07] <bencer> doesnt implement it
[23:07] <bencer> we use apache
[23:08] <bencer> could be implemented
[23:08] <bencer> we just do vhosts and listen ports
[23:08] <bencer> no more
[23:12] <highvoltage> ok cool. you could do reverse proxy with vhosts so that's cool
[23:12] <bencer> yup
[23:12] <bencer> but i'm super busy now :)
[23:12] <highvoltage> oh for sure I'm not asking you to implement it :)
[23:12] <bencer> i have to some stuff for a customer
[23:13] <bencer> and review my zarafa branch
[23:13] <bencer> to can be merged asap
[23:13] <bencer> because we are freezing yesterday :D
[23:14] <highvoltage> aah
[23:15] <bencer> would be cool if zarafa could make it into the archive
[23:15] <bencer> there are some efforts to package jiraffe
[23:15] <bencer> which is a rebrand of zarafa
[23:16] <bencer> then i will upload the modules
[23:23] <bencer> highvoltage: stgraber as upload can i apply to appear in planet ubuntu?
[23:23] <bencer> *uploader
[23:29] <stgraber> yeah, you're a member of ubuntumembers so you can add your blog to planet ubuntu
[23:29] <stgraber> bencer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu