/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/16/#ubuntu-arb.txt

PaoloRotoloGood morning!06:17
jvrbanacGood morning!06:17
PaoloRotoloHi jvrbanac06:18
coolbhaviPaoloRotolo, good morning!06:46
PaoloRotoloHey coolbhavi06:47
PaoloRotolocoolbhavi, I've a problem with arb-lint. It says: "This app might be too big to be reviewed by the ARB. It has 33 source06:48
PaoloRotolo   files and 4115 lines of code."06:48
PaoloRotoloMust we really reject the app?06:49
coolbhaviPaoloRotolo, the app is big and did you check for any discrepancy in the app?06:50
PaoloRotolocoolbhavi, no, it works correctly06:50
PaoloRotoloand it this lintian free06:51
coolbhaviAFAIK ARB only evaluates light weight apps but that should not be suffecient to reject I guess06:51
PaoloRotoloit is*06:51
coolbhavilicense?06:52
PaoloRotolocoolbhavi, GPL-306:52
coolbhaviPaoloRotolo, does it contain any pdf's precompiled binaries and so on?06:53
coolbhaviPaoloRotolo, btw link of the app please06:54
PaoloRotolocoolbhavi, nope... https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1177/06:54
PaoloRotolocoolbhavi, I have downloaded it from PPA, because the app's branch on arb-contributors contains the old version.06:56
coolbhaviPaoloRotolo, seems good to me but because of the warning we cant reject the app I guess ... Anyways please put it up on the list with the packaging I have seen a post on the list with the same warning and getting a +1 from one of the arb members06:57
jvrbanacI've noticed that a lot of quickly apps get that arb-lint warning.06:58
PaoloRotolocoolbhavi, ok, thanks!06:58
coolbhavi:)07:00
PaoloRotoloGood morning dholbach!07:02
dholbachgood morning07:02
dholbachciao PaoloRotolo07:02
Phoenix87hallo07:02
PaoloRotolociao Phoenix87 :)07:03
Phoenix87ciao PaoloRotolo ;)07:03
jvrbanacGood morning! Btw, thanks dholbach for that showdown wiki page. It is quite helpful!07:03
dholbachhey Phoenix87, hi jvrbanac07:04
dholbachexcellent :)07:04
Phoenix87hi dholbach07:04
Phoenix87has anyone onf the arb got news about the case of my app? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/app-review-board/2012-July/001557.html . Thank you07:04
dholbachalright, I will have to have one coffee at least before I start reviewing today :)07:04
PaoloRotolojvrbanac, [Let's join the https://launchpad.net/~dholbach-huggers team ;)]07:09
jvrbanacLOL07:10
dholbach:-)07:11
PaoloRotoloGood morning dholbach07:27
PaoloRotolodpm*, sorry07:28
dpmhi PaoloRotolo :)07:28
noneed4anickgood morning everybody07:29
noneed4anickI'm still experiencing problems with merging the uarb changes into my project :-/07:32
coolbhavidholbach, dpm noneed4anick good morning!07:32
dpmcoolbhavi, good morning07:33
PaoloRotolohi noneed4anick07:34
PaoloRotolononeed4anick, this can help you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/163096/how-do-i-apply-the-fixes-suggested-from-the-app-review-board-to-my-app  :)07:35
noneed4anickWhenever I try to merge, bazaar moves all my directories to foo.moved bar.moved and checks out foo and bar from the branch I try to merge07:35
noneed4anickOk, I'll check the link07:35
noneed4anickyeah, I'm just trying to do that, but merging doesnt seem to work as expected ;)07:37
dpmnoneed4anick, this might be helpful too http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-guide/merging_changes.html07:37
dpmnoneed4anick, and for your particular problem, this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2663846/stop-bazaar-bzr-from-making-moved-files07:38
noneed4anickthx, but I already read both of the links07:41
dpmnoneed4anick, where's your original branch and the branch with the fixes?07:42
noneed4anickthis is my trunk: https://code.launchpad.net/~noneed4anick/cuttlefish/trunk07:43
noneed4anickand this is the branch https://code.launchpad.net/~ajmitch/ubuntu-app-reviews/cuttlefish07:45
dholbachनमस्ते coolbhavi07:50
noneed4anickI had some issues with quickly and thus I created a lot of useless commits. Also I had to rebuild the /debian folder from scratch every time I built -- otherwise the process created an invalid changes file.07:53
coolbhavidholbach, :) namastey :)07:53
jvrbanacAlright... I'm out for the night/morning. I'll try to get a couple more reviews done after work tomorrow/today.07:53
jvrbanacnight all07:53
dholbachjvrbanac, thanks a bunch for your help!07:54
dholbachand sleep tight :)07:54
jvrbanacnp! It's nice to be able to get involved!07:54
noneed4anickI guess bzr cannot match the repositories... Maybe I should try to merge the changes by hand?07:55
trkvPaoloRotolo: hi, Paolo! Haven't you retried to review my app yet?07:56
dpmnoneed4anick, the number of commits should not affect the merge. Let me have a look...08:00
dpmnoneed4anick, could it be that you deleted your branch and created a new one? Here's what I'm getting when trying to do the merge: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1094502/08:02
noneed4anickNo, at least I cannot remember doing such actions :D08:03
noneed4anickYeah, I had the same message08:04
noneed4anickGoogle told my to try it this way: bzr merge lp:~ajmitch/ubuntu-app-reviews/cuttlefish -r 0..-108:04
noneed4anickdpm, any ideas? Or should I just try to merge the changes manually? :(08:30
dpmnoneed4anick, I assume the changes are not that many, so it might be the quickest thing, unless there's a bzr expert on the channel that has any other ideas08:32
noneed4anickOk, thanks for your help anyway :)08:33
dholbachhaha08:35
dholbachI just wondered why the apps brancher queue command finished so fast08:35
dholbachit seems like the HTML on the pages changed, so I'll have to double check the regex :)08:36
dholbachbah08:38
dholbachit can't be screenscraped any more08:38
PaoloRotolodholbach, dpm BTW, can we approve the noneed4anick's app (cuttlefish)? It had a lot of +1 on the mailing list08:48
dholbachPaoloRotolo, if it had 3, it should be ready to go08:49
* dholbach doesn't have publishing powers08:49
dholbachajmitch, ^ :)08:49
PaoloRotolodholbach, but I can "approve" the app :P08:49
dholbachI have no idea what that does08:50
dholbachdpm, ^? :)08:50
PaoloRotolodholbach, me too...08:50
dholbachno no idea08:50
dpmPaoloRotolo, dholbach, I believe it only changes the state in myapps08:50
dholbachthese people should be able to help: https://launchpad.net/~app-review-board/+mugshots08:51
dholbachif you see them on the street near you, you know what to do08:51
dpmPaoloRotolo, can you show me the myapps url for the app?08:51
PaoloRotolodholbach, dpm, so, can I try it :)?08:51
dpmPaoloRotolo, wait a sec08:51
PaoloRotolook08:51
dpmPaoloRotolo, so what's the url? ^08:52
PaoloRotolodpm, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1280/08:53
dpmPaoloRotolo, I would perhaps wait to push 'Approve' until just before it is about to be published in the ARB's staging PPA, but stgraber, ajmitch or wendar should be better able to tell you which exact procedure they follow08:57
PaoloRotoloexcellent :)08:58
dpmnoneed4anick, you're mentioning "I have to let quickly rebuild /debian from scratch with "quickly submitubuntu" which in the current version fails somehow because it creates an invalid changes-file, which cannot be uploaded to launchpad". Would you mind filing a bug with the exact details on https://bugs.launchpad.net/quickly/+filebug especially describing why the .changes file is invalid?09:06
noneed4anickdpm, I'm not sure if its reproducable... Also everytime I do so it will create some commits as well as a new tag, which is a little annoying09:16
dpmnoneed4anick, right, but the commits are not a bug, let's concentrate only on the issue :). How was the .changes file not valid when you could reproduce it? I'm trying to find out if this could have affected any other contest submission09:18
noneed4anickdpm, I will check in a couple of minutes, I'm a little busy right now09:21
dpmnoneed4anick, no worries, thanks for your help09:23
trkvnoneed4anick: I've faced a couple of bugs that were leading to the broken changes file, broken DEBIAN/control etc., and my patches for them were merged to upstream right today09:27
trkvI don't know when new package will be available, but you can probably update from upstream and check09:28
dpmtrkv, can you point to the patches? Quickly will need to be SRUd (i.e. will need to go through the Stable Release Updates process) before it is published with the fixes09:31
trkvdpm: I'm not right, only one patch has been merged ( http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~quickly-committers/quickly/trunk/revision/677 )09:32
trkvsecond is more important and it's still waiting: https://code.launchpad.net/~torkvemada/quickly/templatetools/+merge/11415609:33
dpmthanks trkv, let me have a look in a minute09:46
trkvPractically it is broken templatetools.update_file_content corrupts files09:47
noneed4anickoh wow, strange things happend :)09:48
noneed4anickafter adding the debian files I quickly submitubuntu worked like a charm09:49
noneed4anick*and manually merging the changes09:49
dpmnice :)09:50
noneed4anickthis means on the other side, I'm currently not able to reproduce the bug... sorry ;)09:50
noneed4anickdoes "quickly submitubuntu" only create a new release in the project, but not on my ppa ?10:05
trkvnoneed4anick: nope, it pushes release to ppa10:06
dpmnoneed4anick, it should publish that same release in the PPA, but it takes a few minutes for the package in the PPA to build, as LP processes lots and lots of packages from thousands of projects10:06
noneed4anickyeah, I thought so, too10:06
noneed4anickbut it was usually after a couple of minutes listed with a pending build... But maybe I'm just impatient ;) I'll have a break and check in half an hour or so again10:09
dpmnoneed4anick, actually, IIRC, when you run submitutuntu, it tells you to wait half an hour and then check the PPA build10:09
noneed4anickdpm, yeah it does :)10:19
dpmthere you go then :)10:19
* coolbhavi thinks that there are a lot of personal diary and task remainder software in the app showdown11:54
* noneed4anick just updated his app status12:57
noneed4anickI hope you can finish my review now :)12:57
dholbachdidrocks, can you have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1094824/?12:58
dholbachI don't know how to build lp:~ubuntu-app-review-contributors/ubuntu-app-reviews/wiimap12:58
dholbachnoneed4anick, which one is it? do you have a link to the myapps submission?12:58
didrocksdholbach: hey, didn't we talk about it the other day already?12:59
dholbachI guess we did13:00
dholbachbut I still don't know how to workaround it :)13:00
didrocksit seems that the wiimap module is doing bad things on import13:00
didrocksare you building it on your machine?13:00
dholbachyes13:00
didrocksnot in a chroot?13:00
dholbachnevermind, I'll build it with pbuilder13:01
dholbachit seems I can build a source package13:01
didrocksdholbach: same issue with a pbuilder13:01
didrocksI guess :)13:01
dholbachlet's see :)13:01
noneed4anickdholbach, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1280/13:01
didrocksit seems to need a DISPLAY variable13:01
dholbachthanks noneed4anick13:01
noneed4anickyou're welcome :)13:01
dholbachdidrocks, it builds ;-)13:01
didrocksah, so there is a fallback13:02
didrocksinteresting13:02
dholbachnoneed4anick, give me a few minutes to review another one first13:02
didrocks/home/daniel/build-area/wiimap-12.07.2/wiimap/wiimap_core/grabKey.py still shouldn't execute some code on import ;)13:02
dholbachI agree13:02
noneed4anickyeah no problem, don't put yourself in a hurry because of me :)13:02
dholbachnoneed4anick, as far as I can see it looks good - the only thing you could do is remove the 'Help' menuitem as there's currently no Help available13:12
coolbhaviwhen I run some of the apps stated for app showdown I get an error as ImportError: No module named QtUiTools when I run the program any idea which package provides qt with python?13:19
noneed4anickdo you mean the whole submenu or only the "Contents"-item ?13:19
noneed4anickpython-pyside.qtuitools sounds promising13:20
dholbachnoneed4anick, probably just the "Contents" bit, as the other links all point to worthwhile content13:21
* vibhav is taking a look at https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/811/13:21
vibhavIs transition to dh_python2 necessary?13:23
vibhavfor apps13:23
noneed4anickdholbach, I'm just noticing that I already did that13:23
noneed4anickbut I had a problem with hidding the item, since the two items between contents and about are autogenerated13:23
dholbachnoneed4anick, oh yeah? maybe I was looking at the wrong version then13:24
noneed4anickand with the two autogenerated items the two seperators are created13:24
noneed4anickno you're looking at the right version13:24
dholbachvibhav, best to ask somebody from the ARB13:24
noneed4anickso if I hide Contents, the first item in help menu is a separator13:24
noneed4anickwhich is kind of ugly13:25
coolbhavithanks noneed4anick13:25
noneed4anicknp13:26
noneed4anickI could try to remove the separator, but that would be a little hackish...13:28
noneed4anickdholbach, how do you think about it?13:28
dholbachnoneed4anick, to be very honest - I have no idea, but I'm just taking a look at it :)13:29
vibhavcoolbhavi: Is transition to dh_python2 for apps necessary?13:29
noneed4anick:D13:30
dholbachnoneed4anick, maybe it's easier to write some documentation ;-)13:31
dholbachnoneed4anick, but I won't make this a blocker - I'll give it to the ARB to review and vote13:31
dholbachnoneed4anick, gute Arbeit13:31
dholbachok, I'm an idiot13:31
dholbachit's already with the ARB13:32
coolbhavivibhav, I guess it is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines13:32
dholbachnoneed4anick, it has +3 already, so somebody from the ARB should go and publish it13:32
dholbachI unfortunately don't have the necessary keys to this part of the machinery13:32
noneed4anickdanke :)13:33
noneed4anickI already hacked it13:33
noneed4anickWriting a good documentation would take longer ;)13:33
dholbachso it looks like you're all set13:34
noneed4anickI'll just create a new version13:35
noneed4anickshould I mention it somewhere at the feedback page on myapps?13:36
dholbachare you CCed in the "[Vote] Cuttlefish" thread?13:37
noneed4anickthe say-what? :d13:38
noneed4anick(no, don't think so)13:38
coolbhavidholbach, can I be of some help here in uploading?13:40
dholbachyes, there should be a number of apps with +313:40
dholbachmhall119, dpm: do you have a list?13:40
dholbachnoneed4anick, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/app-review-board/2012-July/001187.html and ff.13:41
* coolbhavi has a look13:41
dpmdholbach, a list of apps ready for vote? I haven't been keeping it, but I think mhall119 has kept the spreadsheet we've got up to date with the ARB stages. Let me check13:41
mhall119dholbach: the spreadsheet or the trello13:44
mhall119but I don't have how many are +313:44
dholbachcuckoo alarm, flash gen13:44
dholbachis wikipedia lens already uploaded?13:44
dholbachand cuttlefish too13:45
coolbhavidholbach, afaics cuttlefish has +2 I guess13:45
dholbachand lots of +213:45
dholbachcoolbhavi, it has +313:45
dholbachfrom stgraber, highvoltage and you13:45
mhall119dholbach: by my counts we have 49 showdown submissions still in the voting stage13:45
dholbachand ajmitch too13:45
dholbachso +4 actually :)13:45
coolbhaviah there were 2 threads13:46
coolbhavisorry for that13:46
dholbachno worries13:46
dholbachit gets a bit unwieldy13:46
coolbhaviso ll review one final time and upload it to ppa13:47
dholbachsweet13:48
dholbachthanks a lot coolbhavi, not sure how you pronounce "शुक्रिया", but "शुक्रिया a lot!"13:48
coolbhavidholbach, its shukriya :) no mention :)13:49
dholbachthat's interesting - I think in Urdu it's "shukriya" too13:49
coolbhavidholbach, yes hindi and urdu have a lot of similarities13:50
dholbachnice13:50
coolbhavibut the script of the language is different13:51
dholbachyes13:51
dholbachUrdu is a lot easier to read ;-)13:51
noneed4anickcoolbhavi, I'm just uploading the version without the contents-item... maybe you wait a few mins?13:51
coolbhavinoneed4anick, sure13:51
coolbhavibtw I just pulled up ajmitch's branch13:52
noneed4anickI didn't merge ajmitch branch because of some conflicts between bzr, quickly and me, but I patched the changes manually13:53
coolbhavinoneed4anick, okay :) btw /me has a look at cuckoo13:55
coolbhavidholbach, btw voted +1 on blubphone and attached the working screenshots on the list this morning13:56
dholbachsweet13:57
dholbachthanks coolbhavi13:57
dholbachor Shukriya13:57
coolbhavidholbach, no mention :) apologies for getting into it a bit late due to the judging going on13:58
dholbachit looks like we got a bit overwhelmed with the success of the app showdown :)13:58
* dholbach gets on with it13:58
coolbhavi:) yes maybe we dint expect such sort of response in such a short time :)14:00
noneed4anickyeah, congrats for making the showdown happen. It has been a great opportunity to get in touch with the whole launchpad system :)14:00
noneed4anickbtw  when this is all over, how will I publish new versions of cuttlefish? Just with quickly submitubuntu and you guys will review it again?14:02
dholbachnoneed4anick, I'm not member of the ARB, but I'd say yes, submitubuntu plus a mail to app-review-board@lists.u.c14:02
highvoltagegood morning14:03
noneed4anickthat would be a nice and simple :)14:03
coolbhavigood morning highvoltage14:03
dholbachhey hey highvoltage14:03
vibhavhi highvoltage14:06
highvoltageI'm not doing much else of anything than just looking at [vote]'s in my arb time atb14:08
highvoltagebut it seems like the logical thing to do14:08
dholbachyes14:09
dholbachand thanks a lot for that14:09
dholbachit looks like we'd need a bit more voting capacity on the ARB14:09
dholbachit looks to be a bit hard to get 3 +1s14:09
highvoltageI think it's probably a good idea to get the arb count up again, might be nice to formalise (maybe not the right word) the current processes a bit better. I don't really like the term 'arb helpers' that much because it sounds like they just assist or something, and it feels like the arb helpers are actually doing most of the good work14:10
highvoltageyes snap14:10
dholbachyes, I think the way it should work would be to be a bit more like ~ubuntu-dev14:10
dholbachyou're trusted = you get to upload14:10
dholbachdone14:10
highvoltage(also, I've been awake for 25.5 hours and then just slept for 3 hours before coming back to work so if I don't make sense just tell me to rephrase)14:10
highvoltagedholbach: *nod*14:11
highvoltagedholbach: well, it's probably a good idea to have 2 eyeballs on an app anyway?14:11
highvoltagewell, 4 literal eyeballs, I meant 2 people :)14:11
dholbachpirates might need some more people then14:12
dholbachI don't know - I think it'd make sense to tell everyone with upload rights to ask for a review of a peer if they're unsure14:12
dholbachthis is interesting - what do I do with these files?14:13
dholbach   - usr/share/man/man1/formatjunkie.1.gz14:13
dholbach   - etc/bash_completion.d/formatjunkie14:13
* dholbach sends a mail to ARB14:13
stgraberdholbach: and that's not a command line app?14:14
coolbhavihighvoltage, We still use XB-Utility and all other fields and check it before a ppa upload. Am I right here?14:14
dholbachstgraber, no14:15
highvoltagecoolbhavi: I *think* so14:15
* vibhav fixed vkvideo14:16
highvoltagedholbach: but yes, having ubuntu-dev being able to upload would make sense if it's going to be scalable in any wya14:17
coolbhavistgraber, its a gui app which quickly converts file formats for audio video images mostly.. Do we need the man page and bash completion in case of gui app?14:17
coolbhavithanks highvoltage14:18
stgraberdholbach: I "think" the easiest way to deal with that is not to install them. The ARB process is explicitly for GUI apps so at last bash completion is a bit out of scope, the manpage is trickier because it can't be properly namespaced and having it in /opt will make it quite pointless...14:18
highvoltageyeah a manpage for simple apps that typically work with 3-4 different clicks seem overkill14:18
stgrabercoolbhavi: no, we don't need them and it's actually difficult for us to ship them because of the namespacing issue14:19
dholbachit offers a number of command line options14:19
dholbach........... along with being a gui app14:19
coolbhavidholbach, hmm interesting I only tested the gui part of it14:20
* coolbhavi checks14:20
coolbhavidholbach, ah from the manpage Format Junkie is a completely Graphical tool and cannot (yet)  be  used14:22
coolbhavi       from  the  command-line.  The  options provided are mostly used for the14:22
coolbhavi       calls from the unity shortcuts, for easy access to opening audio, video14:22
coolbhavi       and  image  files.14:22
dholbachaha!14:22
dholbachthat makes it easy then14:22
stgraberright, so just strip the manpage then :)14:22
coolbhavi:)14:22
coolbhavibah power cut :( only 1 hr battery left :(14:23
dholbachmaybe it'll come back in a bit14:27
dholbachcan anyone try to build and run lp:~ubuntu-app-review-contributors/ubuntu-app-reviews/indicator-remindor in precise?14:31
dholbach*couchdb* stuff is currently not installable in quantal14:31
coolbhavilow battery power now good night all!14:33
dholbachgood night coolbhavi!14:33
trkv_dholbach: only if you review my package)14:34
* trkv_ is kidding, will check now14:34
dholbachtrkv_, which one is it? do you have the myapps url?14:34
trkv_sure14:34
trkv_https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1177/feedback/14:34
dholbachthanks14:35
trkv_dholbach: it installs and seems to work (however I've already found a bug) )14:36
noneed4anickaright guys, I'm leaving14:36
dholbachtrkv_, do you think you could sum up the problems in paste.ubuntu.com and give me the link? then I'd include that in the review14:36
dholbachnoneed4anick, rock on!14:36
noneed4anickthanks for your help and keep up the great work :)14:36
dholbachyou too14:37
vibhavbah14:39
trkv_dholbach: It's only a small bug: I set up the notification "in 1 minute", in two seconds minute has changed (on clock) and notification has been raised. Forget it)14:39
dholbachah ok14:39
vibhavI have recently installed quantal and not imported by gpg keys, would somebody upload the code for me if I provide you with the tarballs?14:40
dholbachtrkv_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1094974/14:40
vibhavAnd I cant do that because I am on an ssh connection and dont how to do that through the terminal :(14:40
dholbachvibhav, which code? which tarballs?14:41
trkv_dholbach: hm, never faced this bug, even on clean system. This part of code is practically generated by quickly) I'll look at the problem now14:42
dholbachtrkv_, maybe it's a quantal issue and didrocks can help14:42
vibhavdholbach: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/811/14:42
dholbachtrkv_, ah hang on14:43
dholbachbefore that I got:14:43
dholbach(parcel-tracker:5165): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: icons too large14:43
vibhavdholbach: Basically, I fixed d/copyright , d/changelog and dh_python2 trasition14:43
dholbachnot sure if it's related though14:43
trkv_dholbach: it's not a problem14:43
trkv_Gdk warns about .svg :)14:43
trkv_it displays it well but warns for some purpose14:43
dholbachtrkv_, that sounds like medieval technology14:43
dholbachvibhav, you could do a debdiff14:44
dholbachtrkv_, I tried to add a couple of tracking numbers and it didn't do anything with them14:44
dholbachtrkv_, it just sits there with a "I'm thinking about it" icon which got stuck14:44
dholbachnevermind14:45
dholbachI was too stupid to use the app14:45
trkv_dholbach: may be your mailing system is not supported yet?14:45
dholbachit is14:45
dholbachI was too stupid to press the 'add' button14:45
dholbachI just hit "enter"14:45
trkv_ooh14:45
trkv_this one problem I was already mentioned(14:45
trkv_from day to day I'm forgetting to fix(14:46
dholbachtrkv_, you have mail14:49
dholbachtrkv_, so indicator-remindor looks fine?14:50
dholbachand works fine?14:50
trkv_from my point of view, yes14:50
trkv_dholbach: thanks!14:50
dholbachok thanks14:50
dholbachstgraber, am I right in thinking that usr/share/nautilus-python/extensions/nitroshare.py is more of a case for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages?15:41
stgraberdholbach: in a way it's much not different from a unity lens... as in, it's not an app in itself but an extension to our desktop environment. Though it'd need a proper exception for it to be acceptable15:43
stgraber*not much15:43
dholbachstgraber, so the TB would need to ACK this?15:45
stgraberyeah15:45
dholbachok, I'll tell the submitter15:45
stgraberI'm not against it and would likely +1, though it needs to be properly added to the policy and some review steps added for it15:45
stgraberas last I checked nautilus extensions tend to crash nautilus entirely if badly coded15:46
stgraberso much more risky than a unity lens/scope that just offers a dbus api15:46
dholbachyes15:47
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george_eI just received an email regarding my application submission. Basically it says that I can't have a Nautilus extension outside of /opt and that I should send an email to app-review-board asking for an exception.16:08
george_eI sent such an email on July 12 and haven't received a reply yet: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/app-review-board/2012-July/001380.html16:09
george_emhall119: --^16:16
dpmgeorge_e, you've done the right thing, but it will take a while until that issue is discussed by the Technical Board (which the ARB reports to). Do you think it would be possible to disable the extension for now, so that it can be processed for the App Showdown and then resume the discussion later on?16:20
george_edpm: Certainly. Would it be alright if I moved the extension to a separate package for now and added it to 'Suggests:' in the original package?16:21
george_eOr does it need to be completely removed from the PPA?16:21
dpmgeorge_e, that sounds fine to me, but I'll leave it to comment to someone more knowledgeable on packaging16:22
george_eI'll do that in the meantime anyway since it will be much easier to remove (if I have to) as a separate package.16:23
mhall119george_e: you should also post your reply in https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1292/feedback/16:24
george_emhall119: Do you mean the equivalent page for my app (that's not my application).16:25
mhall119george_e: sorry, yes16:25
mhall119https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1237/feedback/16:26
george_eIt's okay (that's not mine either :) )16:26
mhall119man I'm not doing well today :(16:26
dholbachmhall119, are you sick?16:28
dpm... of apps?16:29
mhall119dholbach: sick of packaging16:29
george_eThis is probably the page you're looking for: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1020/feedback/16:30
vibhavcoolbhavi: ping16:34
Phoenix87mhall119: Hi. Have you possibly got news concerning my app?16:49
mhall119Phoenix87: I should know by this afternoon (USA timezones)16:53
Phoenix87mhall119: oh, ok. thanks!16:56
mhall119Phoenix87: your app is being added to the judging list17:58
Phoenix87mhall119: meaning it is in the contest?17:59
mhall119Phoenix87: yes18:01
mhall119I've just emailed the judges to let them know18:01
Phoenix87mhall119: thank you very much!! I really appreciate this :D18:01
Phoenix87what a relief :D18:04
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ShowMyFaves-manhello reviewers ! thx for you're incredible speed job !18:17
ShowMyFaves-manjust for you to know we made the changes you want but we haven't heard from you yet.18:19
ShowMyFaves-manbut we know you are soooo buzy !18:20
ShowMyFaves-manwe continued to dev on our project but we didn't push any change on launchpad, because of the contest's rules. Are we allowed to make branch to commit those changes ? Or could we commit on the trunk because you will only care about the submitted version ?18:25
OwaisLShowMyFaves-man, you can commit all you like; You can even publish newer versions in the PPA. Judges will review the last version you published before the deadline was over18:46
ShowMyFaves-manOwaisL: yes but to make easy the review it seems not to be good to commit on the ppa trunk, right ?18:51
OwaisLNo, go ahead. That's what vcs is for :)18:52
ShowMyFaves-manthx for your response, but what is vcs ? bazar ?18:55
OwaisLYup.18:56
OwaisLVersion Control System18:56
ShowMyFaves-mano yes i'm stupid in french is csv^^ thx for your replies ;)18:57
OwaisLI guess you mean cvs18:58
trkvcvs is a kind of vcs :)18:58
trkvone of the most awful species18:59
ShowMyFaves-manooook19:00
OwaisLI'm too new a dev to have dealt with cvs. Lucky me :)19:00
ShowMyFaves-mangoogle is my friend because i'm a "quiche" in inglish19:00
jvrbanacShowMyFaves-man: personally, I would create a "yourappname-devel" PPA and a bazaar branch called  "develop". That way, you can work and test stuff before you push it into a PPA that people use.19:09
ShowMyFaves-manjvrbanac: thx for this response, but we are a team of 2 dev, it's possible for other to push in my personal ppa ?19:11
OwaisLNo, you'll need to create a team19:12
ShowMyFaves-manwe have a team ! Showmyfaves-team on launchpad19:13
OwaisLGreat! You'll need to create a ppa for this team and all the member will be able to push AFAIK19:13
ShowMyFaves-manyes it's we've done19:14
ShowMyFaves-manbut the ppa is for the contest and we wondering were commit the new feature (out contest)19:15
jvrbanacmhall119, since you are knocking out a bunch of review, I thought I would mention that I did do a review on WizzRSS over the weekend and I didn't have a way of moving the card over on trello to "waiting on developer."22:05
jvrbanacI would hate for you to have to do a bunch of extra work for nothing.22:07
jvrbanac:)22:07
george_ejvrbanac: Is it ready for voting?22:11
george_eOh, never mind. I just read the rest of what you said.22:11
george_ejvrbanac: There, I've moved it for you.22:12
jvrbanacAwesome Thanks! Yeah, I couldn't run the app initially. The dev accidentally had paths setup for /usr/share/... It was something simple, so I went ahead and fixed it in my branch.22:14
jvrbanac^ The app installed to extras, but it was looking for image files in usr22:15
mhall119jvrbanac: thanks for the heads up22:24
jvrbanacnp. I'll try to get a couple more done later this evening.22:25
mhall119thanks for all your hard work jvrbanac22:25
jvrbanac:) Happy to help!22:26
bilalI'm reviewing a package, and it has a non-english description. I don't think ddtp works for ARB packages, so I should just ask the submitter to post an English description, right?23:36

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