[06:17] <PaoloRotolo> Good morning!
[06:17] <jvrbanac> Good morning!
[06:18] <PaoloRotolo> Hi jvrbanac
[06:46] <coolbhavi> PaoloRotolo, good morning!
[06:47] <PaoloRotolo> Hey coolbhavi
[06:48] <PaoloRotolo> coolbhavi, I've a problem with arb-lint. It says: "This app might be too big to be reviewed by the ARB. It has 33 source
[06:48] <PaoloRotolo>    files and 4115 lines of code."
[06:49] <PaoloRotolo> Must we really reject the app?
[06:50] <coolbhavi> PaoloRotolo, the app is big and did you check for any discrepancy in the app?
[06:50] <PaoloRotolo> coolbhavi, no, it works correctly
[06:51] <PaoloRotolo> and it this lintian free
[06:51] <coolbhavi> AFAIK ARB only evaluates light weight apps but that should not be suffecient to reject I guess
[06:51] <PaoloRotolo> it is*
[06:52] <coolbhavi> license?
[06:52] <PaoloRotolo> coolbhavi, GPL-3
[06:53] <coolbhavi> PaoloRotolo, does it contain any pdf's precompiled binaries and so on?
[06:54] <coolbhavi> PaoloRotolo, btw link of the app please
[06:54] <PaoloRotolo> coolbhavi, nope... https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1177/
[06:56] <PaoloRotolo> coolbhavi, I have downloaded it from PPA, because the app's branch on arb-contributors contains the old version.
[06:57] <coolbhavi> PaoloRotolo, seems good to me but because of the warning we cant reject the app I guess ... Anyways please put it up on the list with the packaging I have seen a post on the list with the same warning and getting a +1 from one of the arb members
[06:58] <jvrbanac> I've noticed that a lot of quickly apps get that arb-lint warning.
[06:58] <PaoloRotolo> coolbhavi, ok, thanks!
[07:00] <coolbhavi> :)
[07:02] <PaoloRotolo> Good morning dholbach!
[07:02] <dholbach> good morning
[07:02] <dholbach> ciao PaoloRotolo
[07:02] <Phoenix87> hallo
[07:03] <PaoloRotolo> ciao Phoenix87 :)
[07:03] <Phoenix87> ciao PaoloRotolo ;)
[07:03] <jvrbanac> Good morning! Btw, thanks dholbach for that showdown wiki page. It is quite helpful!
[07:04] <dholbach> hey Phoenix87, hi jvrbanac
[07:04] <dholbach> excellent :)
[07:04] <Phoenix87> hi dholbach
[07:04] <Phoenix87> has anyone onf the arb got news about the case of my app? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/app-review-board/2012-July/001557.html . Thank you
[07:04] <dholbach> alright, I will have to have one coffee at least before I start reviewing today :)
[07:09] <PaoloRotolo> jvrbanac, [Let's join the https://launchpad.net/~dholbach-huggers team ;)]
[07:10] <jvrbanac> LOL
[07:11] <dholbach> :-)
[07:27] <PaoloRotolo> Good morning dholbach
[07:28] <PaoloRotolo> dpm*, sorry
[07:28] <dpm> hi PaoloRotolo :)
[07:29] <noneed4anick> good morning everybody
[07:32] <noneed4anick> I'm still experiencing problems with merging the uarb changes into my project :-/
[07:32] <coolbhavi> dholbach, dpm noneed4anick good morning!
[07:33] <dpm> coolbhavi, good morning
[07:34] <PaoloRotolo> hi noneed4anick
[07:35] <PaoloRotolo> noneed4anick, this can help you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/163096/how-do-i-apply-the-fixes-suggested-from-the-app-review-board-to-my-app  :)
[07:35] <noneed4anick> Whenever I try to merge, bazaar moves all my directories to foo.moved bar.moved and checks out foo and bar from the branch I try to merge
[07:35] <noneed4anick> Ok, I'll check the link
[07:37] <noneed4anick> yeah, I'm just trying to do that, but merging doesnt seem to work as expected ;)
[07:37] <dpm> noneed4anick, this might be helpful too http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-guide/merging_changes.html
[07:38] <dpm> noneed4anick, and for your particular problem, this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2663846/stop-bazaar-bzr-from-making-moved-files
[07:41] <noneed4anick> thx, but I already read both of the links
[07:42] <dpm> noneed4anick, where's your original branch and the branch with the fixes?
[07:43] <noneed4anick> this is my trunk: https://code.launchpad.net/~noneed4anick/cuttlefish/trunk
[07:45] <noneed4anick> and this is the branch https://code.launchpad.net/~ajmitch/ubuntu-app-reviews/cuttlefish
[07:50] <dholbach> नमस्ते coolbhavi
[07:53] <noneed4anick> I had some issues with quickly and thus I created a lot of useless commits. Also I had to rebuild the /debian folder from scratch every time I built -- otherwise the process created an invalid changes file.
[07:53] <coolbhavi> dholbach, :) namastey :)
[07:53] <jvrbanac> Alright... I'm out for the night/morning. I'll try to get a couple more reviews done after work tomorrow/today.
[07:53] <jvrbanac> night all
[07:54] <dholbach> jvrbanac, thanks a bunch for your help!
[07:54] <dholbach> and sleep tight :)
[07:54] <jvrbanac> np! It's nice to be able to get involved!
[07:55] <noneed4anick> I guess bzr cannot match the repositories... Maybe I should try to merge the changes by hand?
[07:56] <trkv> PaoloRotolo: hi, Paolo! Haven't you retried to review my app yet?
[08:00] <dpm> noneed4anick, the number of commits should not affect the merge. Let me have a look...
[08:02] <dpm> noneed4anick, could it be that you deleted your branch and created a new one? Here's what I'm getting when trying to do the merge: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1094502/
[08:03] <noneed4anick> No, at least I cannot remember doing such actions :D
[08:04] <noneed4anick> Yeah, I had the same message
[08:04] <noneed4anick> Google told my to try it this way: bzr merge lp:~ajmitch/ubuntu-app-reviews/cuttlefish -r 0..-1
[08:30] <noneed4anick> dpm, any ideas? Or should I just try to merge the changes manually? :(
[08:32] <dpm> noneed4anick, I assume the changes are not that many, so it might be the quickest thing, unless there's a bzr expert on the channel that has any other ideas
[08:33] <noneed4anick> Ok, thanks for your help anyway :)
[08:35] <dholbach> haha
[08:35] <dholbach> I just wondered why the apps brancher queue command finished so fast
[08:36] <dholbach> it seems like the HTML on the pages changed, so I'll have to double check the regex :)
[08:38] <dholbach> bah
[08:38] <dholbach> it can't be screenscraped any more
[08:48] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, dpm BTW, can we approve the noneed4anick's app (cuttlefish)? It had a lot of +1 on the mailing list
[08:49] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, if it had 3, it should be ready to go
[08:49]  * dholbach doesn't have publishing powers
[08:49] <dholbach> ajmitch, ^ :)
[08:49] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, but I can "approve" the app :P
[08:50] <dholbach> I have no idea what that does
[08:50] <dholbach> dpm, ^? :)
[08:50] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, me too...
[08:50] <dholbach> no no idea
[08:50] <dpm> PaoloRotolo, dholbach, I believe it only changes the state in myapps
[08:51] <dholbach> these people should be able to help: https://launchpad.net/~app-review-board/+mugshots
[08:51] <dholbach> if you see them on the street near you, you know what to do
[08:51] <dpm> PaoloRotolo, can you show me the myapps url for the app?
[08:51] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, dpm, so, can I try it :)?
[08:51] <dpm> PaoloRotolo, wait a sec
[08:51] <PaoloRotolo> ok
[08:52] <dpm> PaoloRotolo, so what's the url? ^
[08:53] <PaoloRotolo> dpm, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1280/
[08:57] <dpm> PaoloRotolo, I would perhaps wait to push 'Approve' until just before it is about to be published in the ARB's staging PPA, but stgraber, ajmitch or wendar should be better able to tell you which exact procedure they follow
[08:58] <PaoloRotolo> excellent :)
[09:06] <dpm> noneed4anick, you're mentioning "I have to let quickly rebuild /debian from scratch with "quickly submitubuntu" which in the current version fails somehow because it creates an invalid changes-file, which cannot be uploaded to launchpad". Would you mind filing a bug with the exact details on https://bugs.launchpad.net/quickly/+filebug especially describing why the .changes file is invalid?
[09:16] <noneed4anick> dpm, I'm not sure if its reproducable... Also everytime I do so it will create some commits as well as a new tag, which is a little annoying
[09:18] <dpm> noneed4anick, right, but the commits are not a bug, let's concentrate only on the issue :). How was the .changes file not valid when you could reproduce it? I'm trying to find out if this could have affected any other contest submission
[09:21] <noneed4anick> dpm, I will check in a couple of minutes, I'm a little busy right now
[09:23] <dpm> noneed4anick, no worries, thanks for your help
[09:27] <trkv> noneed4anick: I've faced a couple of bugs that were leading to the broken changes file, broken DEBIAN/control etc., and my patches for them were merged to upstream right today
[09:28] <trkv> I don't know when new package will be available, but you can probably update from upstream and check
[09:31] <dpm> trkv, can you point to the patches? Quickly will need to be SRUd (i.e. will need to go through the Stable Release Updates process) before it is published with the fixes
[09:32] <trkv> dpm: I'm not right, only one patch has been merged ( http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~quickly-committers/quickly/trunk/revision/677 )
[09:33] <trkv> second is more important and it's still waiting: https://code.launchpad.net/~torkvemada/quickly/templatetools/+merge/114156
[09:46] <dpm> thanks trkv, let me have a look in a minute
[09:47] <trkv> Practically it is broken templatetools.update_file_content corrupts files
[09:48] <noneed4anick> oh wow, strange things happend :)
[09:49] <noneed4anick> after adding the debian files I quickly submitubuntu worked like a charm
[09:49] <noneed4anick> *and manually merging the changes
[09:50] <dpm> nice :)
[09:50] <noneed4anick> this means on the other side, I'm currently not able to reproduce the bug... sorry ;)
[10:05] <noneed4anick> does "quickly submitubuntu" only create a new release in the project, but not on my ppa ?
[10:06] <trkv> noneed4anick: nope, it pushes release to ppa
[10:06] <dpm> noneed4anick, it should publish that same release in the PPA, but it takes a few minutes for the package in the PPA to build, as LP processes lots and lots of packages from thousands of projects
[10:06] <noneed4anick> yeah, I thought so, too
[10:09] <noneed4anick> but it was usually after a couple of minutes listed with a pending build... But maybe I'm just impatient ;) I'll have a break and check in half an hour or so again
[10:09] <dpm> noneed4anick, actually, IIRC, when you run submitutuntu, it tells you to wait half an hour and then check the PPA build
[10:19] <noneed4anick> dpm, yeah it does :)
[10:19] <dpm> there you go then :)
[11:54]  * coolbhavi thinks that there are a lot of personal diary and task remainder software in the app showdown
[12:57]  * noneed4anick just updated his app status
[12:57] <noneed4anick> I hope you can finish my review now :)
[12:58] <dholbach> didrocks, can you have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1094824/?
[12:58] <dholbach> I don't know how to build lp:~ubuntu-app-review-contributors/ubuntu-app-reviews/wiimap
[12:58] <dholbach> noneed4anick, which one is it? do you have a link to the myapps submission?
[12:59] <didrocks> dholbach: hey, didn't we talk about it the other day already?
[13:00] <dholbach> I guess we did
[13:00] <dholbach> but I still don't know how to workaround it :)
[13:00] <didrocks> it seems that the wiimap module is doing bad things on import
[13:00] <didrocks> are you building it on your machine?
[13:00] <dholbach> yes
[13:00] <didrocks> not in a chroot?
[13:01] <dholbach> nevermind, I'll build it with pbuilder
[13:01] <dholbach> it seems I can build a source package
[13:01] <didrocks> dholbach: same issue with a pbuilder
[13:01] <didrocks> I guess :)
[13:01] <dholbach> let's see :)
[13:01] <noneed4anick> dholbach, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1280/
[13:01] <didrocks> it seems to need a DISPLAY variable
[13:01] <dholbach> thanks noneed4anick
[13:01] <noneed4anick> you're welcome :)
[13:01] <dholbach> didrocks, it builds ;-)
[13:02] <didrocks> ah, so there is a fallback
[13:02] <didrocks> interesting
[13:02] <dholbach> noneed4anick, give me a few minutes to review another one first
[13:02] <didrocks> /home/daniel/build-area/wiimap-12.07.2/wiimap/wiimap_core/grabKey.py still shouldn't execute some code on import ;)
[13:02] <dholbach> I agree
[13:02] <noneed4anick> yeah no problem, don't put yourself in a hurry because of me :)
[13:12] <dholbach> noneed4anick, as far as I can see it looks good - the only thing you could do is remove the 'Help' menuitem as there's currently no Help available
[13:19] <coolbhavi> when I run some of the apps stated for app showdown I get an error as ImportError: No module named QtUiTools when I run the program any idea which package provides qt with python?
[13:19] <noneed4anick> do you mean the whole submenu or only the "Contents"-item ?
[13:20] <noneed4anick> python-pyside.qtuitools sounds promising
[13:21] <dholbach> noneed4anick, probably just the "Contents" bit, as the other links all point to worthwhile content
[13:21]  * vibhav is taking a look at https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/811/
[13:23] <vibhav> Is transition to dh_python2 necessary?
[13:23] <vibhav> for apps
[13:23] <noneed4anick> dholbach, I'm just noticing that I already did that
[13:23] <noneed4anick> but I had a problem with hidding the item, since the two items between contents and about are autogenerated
[13:24] <dholbach> noneed4anick, oh yeah? maybe I was looking at the wrong version then
[13:24] <noneed4anick> and with the two autogenerated items the two seperators are created
[13:24] <noneed4anick> no you're looking at the right version
[13:24] <dholbach> vibhav, best to ask somebody from the ARB
[13:24] <noneed4anick> so if I hide Contents, the first item in help menu is a separator
[13:25] <noneed4anick> which is kind of ugly
[13:25] <coolbhavi> thanks noneed4anick
[13:26] <noneed4anick> np
[13:28] <noneed4anick> I could try to remove the separator, but that would be a little hackish...
[13:28] <noneed4anick> dholbach, how do you think about it?
[13:29] <dholbach> noneed4anick, to be very honest - I have no idea, but I'm just taking a look at it :)
[13:29] <vibhav> coolbhavi: Is transition to dh_python2 for apps necessary?
[13:30] <noneed4anick> :D
[13:31] <dholbach> noneed4anick, maybe it's easier to write some documentation ;-)
[13:31] <dholbach> noneed4anick, but I won't make this a blocker - I'll give it to the ARB to review and vote
[13:31] <dholbach> noneed4anick, gute Arbeit
[13:31] <dholbach> ok, I'm an idiot
[13:32] <dholbach> it's already with the ARB
[13:32] <coolbhavi> vibhav, I guess it is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Review/Guidelines
[13:32] <dholbach> noneed4anick, it has +3 already, so somebody from the ARB should go and publish it
[13:32] <dholbach> I unfortunately don't have the necessary keys to this part of the machinery
[13:33] <noneed4anick> danke :)
[13:33] <noneed4anick> I already hacked it
[13:33] <noneed4anick> Writing a good documentation would take longer ;)
[13:34] <dholbach> so it looks like you're all set
[13:35] <noneed4anick> I'll just create a new version
[13:36] <noneed4anick> should I mention it somewhere at the feedback page on myapps?
[13:37] <dholbach> are you CCed in the "[Vote] Cuttlefish" thread?
[13:38] <noneed4anick> the say-what? :d
[13:38] <noneed4anick> (no, don't think so)
[13:40] <coolbhavi> dholbach, can I be of some help here in uploading?
[13:40] <dholbach> yes, there should be a number of apps with +3
[13:40] <dholbach> mhall119, dpm: do you have a list?
[13:41] <dholbach> noneed4anick, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/app-review-board/2012-July/001187.html and ff.
[13:41]  * coolbhavi has a look
[13:41] <dpm> dholbach, a list of apps ready for vote? I haven't been keeping it, but I think mhall119 has kept the spreadsheet we've got up to date with the ARB stages. Let me check
[13:44] <mhall119> dholbach: the spreadsheet or the trello
[13:44] <mhall119> but I don't have how many are +3
[13:44] <dholbach> cuckoo alarm, flash gen
[13:44] <dholbach> is wikipedia lens already uploaded?
[13:45] <dholbach> and cuttlefish too
[13:45] <coolbhavi> dholbach, afaics cuttlefish has +2 I guess
[13:45] <dholbach> and lots of +2
[13:45] <dholbach> coolbhavi, it has +3
[13:45] <dholbach> from stgraber, highvoltage and you
[13:45] <mhall119> dholbach: by my counts we have 49 showdown submissions still in the voting stage
[13:45] <dholbach> and ajmitch too
[13:45] <dholbach> so +4 actually :)
[13:46] <coolbhavi> ah there were 2 threads
[13:46] <coolbhavi> sorry for that
[13:46] <dholbach> no worries
[13:46] <dholbach> it gets a bit unwieldy
[13:47] <coolbhavi> so ll review one final time and upload it to ppa
[13:48] <dholbach> sweet
[13:48] <dholbach> thanks a lot coolbhavi, not sure how you pronounce "शुक्रिया", but "शुक्रिया a lot!"
[13:49] <coolbhavi> dholbach, its shukriya :) no mention :)
[13:49] <dholbach> that's interesting - I think in Urdu it's "shukriya" too
[13:50] <coolbhavi> dholbach, yes hindi and urdu have a lot of similarities
[13:50] <dholbach> nice
[13:51] <coolbhavi> but the script of the language is different
[13:51] <dholbach> yes
[13:51] <dholbach> Urdu is a lot easier to read ;-)
[13:51] <noneed4anick> coolbhavi, I'm just uploading the version without the contents-item... maybe you wait a few mins?
[13:51] <coolbhavi> noneed4anick, sure
[13:52] <coolbhavi> btw I just pulled up ajmitch's branch
[13:53] <noneed4anick> I didn't merge ajmitch branch because of some conflicts between bzr, quickly and me, but I patched the changes manually
[13:55] <coolbhavi> noneed4anick, okay :) btw /me has a look at cuckoo
[13:56] <coolbhavi> dholbach, btw voted +1 on blubphone and attached the working screenshots on the list this morning
[13:57] <dholbach> sweet
[13:57] <dholbach> thanks coolbhavi
[13:57] <dholbach> or Shukriya
[13:58] <coolbhavi> dholbach, no mention :) apologies for getting into it a bit late due to the judging going on
[13:58] <dholbach> it looks like we got a bit overwhelmed with the success of the app showdown :)
[13:58]  * dholbach gets on with it
[14:00] <coolbhavi> :) yes maybe we dint expect such sort of response in such a short time :)
[14:00] <noneed4anick> yeah, congrats for making the showdown happen. It has been a great opportunity to get in touch with the whole launchpad system :)
[14:02] <noneed4anick> btw  when this is all over, how will I publish new versions of cuttlefish? Just with quickly submitubuntu and you guys will review it again?
[14:02] <dholbach> noneed4anick, I'm not member of the ARB, but I'd say yes, submitubuntu plus a mail to app-review-board@lists.u.c
[14:03] <highvoltage> good morning
[14:03] <noneed4anick> that would be a nice and simple :)
[14:03] <coolbhavi> good morning highvoltage
[14:03] <dholbach> hey hey highvoltage
[14:06] <vibhav> hi highvoltage
[14:08] <highvoltage> I'm not doing much else of anything than just looking at [vote]'s in my arb time atb
[14:08] <highvoltage> but it seems like the logical thing to do
[14:09] <dholbach> yes
[14:09] <dholbach> and thanks a lot for that
[14:09] <dholbach> it looks like we'd need a bit more voting capacity on the ARB
[14:09] <dholbach> it looks to be a bit hard to get 3 +1s
[14:10] <highvoltage> I think it's probably a good idea to get the arb count up again, might be nice to formalise (maybe not the right word) the current processes a bit better. I don't really like the term 'arb helpers' that much because it sounds like they just assist or something, and it feels like the arb helpers are actually doing most of the good work
[14:10] <highvoltage> yes snap
[14:10] <dholbach> yes, I think the way it should work would be to be a bit more like ~ubuntu-dev
[14:10] <dholbach> you're trusted = you get to upload
[14:10] <dholbach> done
[14:10] <highvoltage> (also, I've been awake for 25.5 hours and then just slept for 3 hours before coming back to work so if I don't make sense just tell me to rephrase)
[14:11] <highvoltage> dholbach: *nod*
[14:11] <highvoltage> dholbach: well, it's probably a good idea to have 2 eyeballs on an app anyway?
[14:11] <highvoltage> well, 4 literal eyeballs, I meant 2 people :)
[14:12] <dholbach> pirates might need some more people then
[14:12] <dholbach> I don't know - I think it'd make sense to tell everyone with upload rights to ask for a review of a peer if they're unsure
[14:13] <dholbach> this is interesting - what do I do with these files?
[14:13] <dholbach>    - usr/share/man/man1/formatjunkie.1.gz
[14:13] <dholbach>    - etc/bash_completion.d/formatjunkie
[14:13]  * dholbach sends a mail to ARB
[14:14] <stgraber> dholbach: and that's not a command line app?
[14:14] <coolbhavi> highvoltage, We still use XB-Utility and all other fields and check it before a ppa upload. Am I right here?
[14:15] <dholbach> stgraber, no
[14:15] <highvoltage> coolbhavi: I *think* so
[14:16]  * vibhav fixed vkvideo
[14:17] <highvoltage> dholbach: but yes, having ubuntu-dev being able to upload would make sense if it's going to be scalable in any wya
[14:17] <coolbhavi> stgraber, its a gui app which quickly converts file formats for audio video images mostly.. Do we need the man page and bash completion in case of gui app?
[14:18] <coolbhavi> thanks highvoltage
[14:18] <stgraber> dholbach: I "think" the easiest way to deal with that is not to install them. The ARB process is explicitly for GUI apps so at last bash completion is a bit out of scope, the manpage is trickier because it can't be properly namespaced and having it in /opt will make it quite pointless...
[14:18] <highvoltage> yeah a manpage for simple apps that typically work with 3-4 different clicks seem overkill
[14:19] <stgraber> coolbhavi: no, we don't need them and it's actually difficult for us to ship them because of the namespacing issue
[14:19] <dholbach> it offers a number of command line options
[14:19] <dholbach> ........... along with being a gui app
[14:20] <coolbhavi> dholbach, hmm interesting I only tested the gui part of it
[14:20]  * coolbhavi checks
[14:22] <coolbhavi> dholbach, ah from the manpage Format Junkie is a completely Graphical tool and cannot (yet)  be  used
[14:22] <coolbhavi>        from  the  command-line.  The  options provided are mostly used for the
[14:22] <coolbhavi>        calls from the unity shortcuts, for easy access to opening audio, video
[14:22] <coolbhavi>        and  image  files.
[14:22] <dholbach> aha!
[14:22] <dholbach> that makes it easy then
[14:22] <stgraber> right, so just strip the manpage then :)
[14:22] <coolbhavi> :)
[14:23] <coolbhavi> bah power cut :( only 1 hr battery left :(
[14:27] <dholbach> maybe it'll come back in a bit
[14:31] <dholbach> can anyone try to build and run lp:~ubuntu-app-review-contributors/ubuntu-app-reviews/indicator-remindor in precise?
[14:31] <dholbach> *couchdb* stuff is currently not installable in quantal
[14:33] <coolbhavi> low battery power now good night all!
[14:33] <dholbach> good night coolbhavi!
[14:34] <trkv_> dholbach: only if you review my package)
[14:34]  * trkv_ is kidding, will check now
[14:34] <dholbach> trkv_, which one is it? do you have the myapps url?
[14:34] <trkv_> sure
[14:34] <trkv_> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1177/feedback/
[14:35] <dholbach> thanks
[14:36] <trkv_> dholbach: it installs and seems to work (however I've already found a bug) )
[14:36] <noneed4anick> aright guys, I'm leaving
[14:36] <dholbach> trkv_, do you think you could sum up the problems in paste.ubuntu.com and give me the link? then I'd include that in the review
[14:36] <dholbach> noneed4anick, rock on!
[14:36] <noneed4anick> thanks for your help and keep up the great work :)
[14:37] <dholbach> you too
[14:39] <vibhav> bah
[14:39] <trkv_> dholbach: It's only a small bug: I set up the notification "in 1 minute", in two seconds minute has changed (on clock) and notification has been raised. Forget it)
[14:39] <dholbach> ah ok
[14:40] <vibhav> I have recently installed quantal and not imported by gpg keys, would somebody upload the code for me if I provide you with the tarballs?
[14:40] <dholbach> trkv_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1094974/
[14:40] <vibhav> And I cant do that because I am on an ssh connection and dont how to do that through the terminal :(
[14:41] <dholbach> vibhav, which code? which tarballs?
[14:42] <trkv_> dholbach: hm, never faced this bug, even on clean system. This part of code is practically generated by quickly) I'll look at the problem now
[14:42] <dholbach> trkv_, maybe it's a quantal issue and didrocks can help
[14:42] <vibhav> dholbach: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/811/
[14:43] <dholbach> trkv_, ah hang on
[14:43] <dholbach> before that I got:
[14:43] <dholbach> (parcel-tracker:5165): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: icons too large
[14:43] <vibhav> dholbach: Basically, I fixed d/copyright , d/changelog and dh_python2 trasition
[14:43] <dholbach> not sure if it's related though
[14:43] <trkv_> dholbach: it's not a problem
[14:43] <trkv_> Gdk warns about .svg :)
[14:43] <trkv_> it displays it well but warns for some purpose
[14:43] <dholbach> trkv_, that sounds like medieval technology
[14:44] <dholbach> vibhav, you could do a debdiff
[14:44] <dholbach> trkv_, I tried to add a couple of tracking numbers and it didn't do anything with them
[14:44] <dholbach> trkv_, it just sits there with a "I'm thinking about it" icon which got stuck
[14:45] <dholbach> nevermind
[14:45] <dholbach> I was too stupid to use the app
[14:45] <trkv_> dholbach: may be your mailing system is not supported yet?
[14:45] <dholbach> it is
[14:45] <dholbach> I was too stupid to press the 'add' button
[14:45] <dholbach> I just hit "enter"
[14:45] <trkv_> ooh
[14:45] <trkv_> this one problem I was already mentioned(
[14:46] <trkv_> from day to day I'm forgetting to fix(
[14:49] <dholbach> trkv_, you have mail
[14:50] <dholbach> trkv_, so indicator-remindor looks fine?
[14:50] <dholbach> and works fine?
[14:50] <trkv_> from my point of view, yes
[14:50] <trkv_> dholbach: thanks!
[14:50] <dholbach> ok thanks
[15:41] <dholbach> stgraber, am I right in thinking that usr/share/nautilus-python/extensions/nitroshare.py is more of a case for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages?
[15:43] <stgraber> dholbach: in a way it's much not different from a unity lens... as in, it's not an app in itself but an extension to our desktop environment. Though it'd need a proper exception for it to be acceptable
[15:43] <stgraber> *not much
[15:45] <dholbach> stgraber, so the TB would need to ACK this?
[15:45] <stgraber> yeah
[15:45] <dholbach> ok, I'll tell the submitter
[15:45] <stgraber> I'm not against it and would likely +1, though it needs to be properly added to the policy and some review steps added for it
[15:46] <stgraber> as last I checked nautilus extensions tend to crash nautilus entirely if badly coded
[15:46] <stgraber> so much more risky than a unity lens/scope that just offers a dbus api
[15:47] <dholbach> yes
[16:08] <george_e> I just received an email regarding my application submission. Basically it says that I can't have a Nautilus extension outside of /opt and that I should send an email to app-review-board asking for an exception.
[16:09] <george_e> I sent such an email on July 12 and haven't received a reply yet: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/app-review-board/2012-July/001380.html
[16:16] <george_e> mhall119: --^
[16:20] <dpm> george_e, you've done the right thing, but it will take a while until that issue is discussed by the Technical Board (which the ARB reports to). Do you think it would be possible to disable the extension for now, so that it can be processed for the App Showdown and then resume the discussion later on?
[16:21] <george_e> dpm: Certainly. Would it be alright if I moved the extension to a separate package for now and added it to 'Suggests:' in the original package?
[16:21] <george_e> Or does it need to be completely removed from the PPA?
[16:22] <dpm> george_e, that sounds fine to me, but I'll leave it to comment to someone more knowledgeable on packaging
[16:23] <george_e> I'll do that in the meantime anyway since it will be much easier to remove (if I have to) as a separate package.
[16:24] <mhall119> george_e: you should also post your reply in https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1292/feedback/
[16:25] <george_e> mhall119: Do you mean the equivalent page for my app (that's not my application).
[16:25] <mhall119> george_e: sorry, yes
[16:26] <mhall119> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1237/feedback/
[16:26] <george_e> It's okay (that's not mine either :) )
[16:26] <mhall119> man I'm not doing well today :(
[16:28] <dholbach> mhall119, are you sick?
[16:29] <dpm> ... of apps?
[16:29] <mhall119> dholbach: sick of packaging
[16:30] <george_e> This is probably the page you're looking for: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1020/feedback/
[16:34] <vibhav> coolbhavi: ping
[16:49] <Phoenix87> mhall119: Hi. Have you possibly got news concerning my app?
[16:53] <mhall119> Phoenix87: I should know by this afternoon (USA timezones)
[16:56] <Phoenix87> mhall119: oh, ok. thanks!
[17:58] <mhall119> Phoenix87: your app is being added to the judging list
[17:59] <Phoenix87> mhall119: meaning it is in the contest?
[18:01] <mhall119> Phoenix87: yes
[18:01] <mhall119> I've just emailed the judges to let them know
[18:01] <Phoenix87> mhall119: thank you very much!! I really appreciate this :D
[18:04] <Phoenix87> what a relief :D
[18:17] <ShowMyFaves-man> hello reviewers ! thx for you're incredible speed job !
[18:19] <ShowMyFaves-man> just for you to know we made the changes you want but we haven't heard from you yet.
[18:20] <ShowMyFaves-man> but we know you are soooo buzy !
[18:25] <ShowMyFaves-man> we continued to dev on our project but we didn't push any change on launchpad, because of the contest's rules. Are we allowed to make branch to commit those changes ? Or could we commit on the trunk because you will only care about the submitted version ?
[18:46] <OwaisL> ShowMyFaves-man, you can commit all you like; You can even publish newer versions in the PPA. Judges will review the last version you published before the deadline was over
[18:51] <ShowMyFaves-man> OwaisL: yes but to make easy the review it seems not to be good to commit on the ppa trunk, right ?
[18:52] <OwaisL> No, go ahead. That's what vcs is for :)
[18:55] <ShowMyFaves-man> thx for your response, but what is vcs ? bazar ?
[18:56] <OwaisL> Yup.
[18:56] <OwaisL> Version Control System
[18:57] <ShowMyFaves-man> o yes i'm stupid in french is csv^^ thx for your replies ;)
[18:58] <OwaisL> I guess you mean cvs
[18:58] <trkv> cvs is a kind of vcs :)
[18:59] <trkv> one of the most awful species
[19:00] <ShowMyFaves-man> ooook
[19:00] <OwaisL> I'm too new a dev to have dealt with cvs. Lucky me :)
[19:00] <ShowMyFaves-man> google is my friend because i'm a "quiche" in inglish
[19:09] <jvrbanac> ShowMyFaves-man: personally, I would create a "yourappname-devel" PPA and a bazaar branch called  "develop". That way, you can work and test stuff before you push it into a PPA that people use.
[19:11] <ShowMyFaves-man> jvrbanac: thx for this response, but we are a team of 2 dev, it's possible for other to push in my personal ppa ?
[19:12] <OwaisL> No, you'll need to create a team
[19:13] <ShowMyFaves-man> we have a team ! Showmyfaves-team on launchpad
[19:13] <OwaisL> Great! You'll need to create a ppa for this team and all the member will be able to push AFAIK
[19:14] <ShowMyFaves-man> yes it's we've done
[19:15] <ShowMyFaves-man> but the ppa is for the contest and we wondering were commit the new feature (out contest)
[22:05] <jvrbanac> mhall119, since you are knocking out a bunch of review, I thought I would mention that I did do a review on WizzRSS over the weekend and I didn't have a way of moving the card over on trello to "waiting on developer."
[22:07] <jvrbanac> I would hate for you to have to do a bunch of extra work for nothing.
[22:07] <jvrbanac> :)
[22:11] <george_e> jvrbanac: Is it ready for voting?
[22:11] <george_e> Oh, never mind. I just read the rest of what you said.
[22:12] <george_e> jvrbanac: There, I've moved it for you.
[22:14] <jvrbanac> Awesome Thanks! Yeah, I couldn't run the app initially. The dev accidentally had paths setup for /usr/share/... It was something simple, so I went ahead and fixed it in my branch.
[22:15] <jvrbanac> ^ The app installed to extras, but it was looking for image files in usr
[22:24] <mhall119> jvrbanac: thanks for the heads up
[22:25] <jvrbanac> np. I'll try to get a couple more done later this evening.
[22:25] <mhall119> thanks for all your hard work jvrbanac
[22:26] <jvrbanac> :) Happy to help!
[23:36] <bilal> I'm reviewing a package, and it has a non-english description. I don't think ddtp works for ARB packages, so I should just ask the submitter to post an English description, right?