=== Logan_ is now known as Guest17881 === Logan__ is now known as Logan_ === jbicha is now known as Guest91535 [05:55] TheLordOfTime: I spent quite a bit of time screwing around with launchpad before I could even get to the site (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs), but am reading it now. [05:56] I had to generate a gpg key, push it to the ubuntu server, import it to launchpad, and then sign the ubuntu code of conduct. Learned tons! [12:19] BugSquad: this was sent via the mailing list for triaging. Additonal confirms from bugsquad are necessary, as the bug is *not* reproducable in three other systems here. Please confirm whether you can reproduce this bug. [12:20] bug control members: i was not able to personally reproduce this bug, but given there's a large number of reports of this thus far, it might be ready for triaging. i do not believe it is because it appears to be a randomly appearing bug in specific hardware configurations. [12:20] Bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1021517 [12:20] Ubuntu bug 1021517 in xorg-server "Xorg-server crashes reproducible with GIMP usage" [Undecided,Confirmed] === zyga is now known as zyga-food === zyga-food is now known as zyga-food] === zyga-food] is now known as zyga-food === zyga-food is now known as zyga === Logan__ is now known as Logan_ [14:32] Bug 870006 is still present in Oneiric, but fixed in Precise. Looking at the changelog (http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/globs/current/changelog) this was resolved by 0.2.0~svn50-3 which added the dependency. When picking the right Fix Released comment (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Fixed_in_Development_release_while_still_existing_in_a_previous_release), would this technically qualify for an SRU (under "Bugs whic [14:32] do not fit under above categories, but (1) have an obviously safe patch and (2) affect an application rather than critical infrastructure packages")? [14:33] Launchpad bug 870006 in globs "missing dependency to python-glade2" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/870006 [14:33] I am not sure whether anyone would need an update for Oneiric at this point, but if they do... I will of course also mention this is easy to workaround by simply installing the dependency manually. [14:36] hjd, not likely to be worth a SRU at this point [14:37] hjd, users who are still using oneiric and need python-glade2 probably installed it after this time [14:37] hjd, it's not likely that oneiric is getting lot of new users with the LTS out [14:42] Yes, I'm aware that most people will have installed it manually or upgraded to 12.04 at this point, so likely no one would apply for a SRU. Though, theoretically it would qualify, right? [14:42] Or do you have a better suggestion for leaving a comment when marking it fix released? [14:46] hjd, it would apply for a SRU yes [14:47] hjd, you can use the first reply, if the user care enough to do the SRU paperwork etc we can revisit [14:48] Hi, i need help. I am an 12.04 with all new updates and when ever I play flash in mozilla/chrome the cpu usage shoots really high. I am on a quad core, and have nvidia integrated graphics...can someone tell me whats wrong ?. There is no issues in my 10.10 [14:49] hjd, or just use the third one and change the "doesn't fit the requirements for backporting" by "only important fixes are applied at this point for oneiric and this one is a bug easy to work around if needed" [14:50] laserbled: you may need to ask in #ubuntu about that, to see whether there's a bug or not. [14:50] and for the record, 10.10 isnt supported anymore :p [14:50] yes I know but there is no issues there. Thats the funny part [14:52] I have to end the plugin container process to stop the issue [14:56] laserbled: again, start in #ubuntu [14:56] Yes yes, I have put the question there as well. :) [14:56] this is the channel for the Bug Squad. The Bug Squad handles bugs, generally, in terms of getting them triaged. We don't typically help diagnose whether there's a bug or not [14:57] okie, got it. thanks anyway [14:57] yep, feel free to lurk if you want though [14:57] seb128: do you track the mailing list? [14:57] * LoT could use another opinion [14:58] LoT, "the" mailing list? [14:58] LoT, define the, Ubuntu has > 1 mailing list [14:59] seb128: the bugsquad list [14:59] LoT, I'm subscribed to this one, I don't read it regularly or in details though, why? [15:00] well, trying to get input on whether a bug is triagable [15:00] in one sense it is [15:00] in another, the bug's not able to be reproduced [15:00] this is the bug r, [15:01] bleh [15:01] damn one sec [15:01] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1021517 [15:01] Ubuntu bug 1021517 in xorg-server "Xorg-server crashes reproducible with GIMP usage" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:01] putty is evil [15:02] seb128: ok thanks. :) I ended up using an edited version of the first response. [15:03] LoT, thanks for pointing it [15:04] seb128: yep, my issue is that its not reproducable here, and i've tested on three desktops, and six different laptops [15:04] including my heavily-modded-kernel-running laptop [15:04] LoT, it might be video card dependant? [15:04] seb128: it *appears* that way, or hardware dependent [15:04] but afaict, there's a few different cards in the mix [15:04] and different hardware configurations [15:04] which makes me think its not reproducable [15:05] that, and the stacktraces of Xorg show memory-level segfaults, i didnt see anything really descriptive there [15:05] also, it appears to be "GIMP dependent" too [15:05] that, and its against, what, three upstream packages?/ [15:05] s/packages/projects/ [15:06] if it were my call, i'd not be discussing this [15:06] but... it *could* be triagable [15:06] depending on the point of view [15:06] LoT, I'm going to point it to one of our xorg guys [15:06] LoT, I fear that has to do with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10.3 [15:07] seb128: lemme know what they say, if its triageable, if so i'll have at it and set that. [15:07] * LoT only responded to the email that went out about the bug because he at the time didnt think it triageable [15:07] LoT, well, you can set it to confirmed for sure, but we really need to have an hacker looking at it [15:07] it is indeed confirmed [15:07] last i checked there's a high confirmed rate [15:08] 26 people marked it as confirmed so... [15:08] seb128: i also believe that it shouldnt be targetted to gimp project on LP, because it was pointed from the gimp package to the xorg-server package, but i'm not going to make that call yet [15:09] LoT, right, I think it has to do with inputs btw [15:09] "For me this bug is reproducible/ not reproducible on my Thinkpad 410s depending on wheter I disable/enable the touchpad with Fn-F8 before or not." [15:09] on the bug [15:09] huh [15:09] then its xorg inputdependent [15:09] that, and also partially hardware dependent [15:10] because Fn-F8 i think is a weird thinkpad feature [15:10] (Dell has the decency to not have a function key to disable trackpad. this is also a downside) [15:10] touchpad* [15:10] damn my faster-than-my-thoughts fingers. [16:35] seb128: who did you forward that bug to, the guy that just took it for Precise? [16:36] LoT, #ubuntu-x basically but yeah, I assigned it to somebody from the Canonical Desktop Team [16:36] LoT, feel free to join #ubuntu-x if you are interested into the details [16:37] seb128: heh, only marginally, it just showed up on Ask Ubuntu about this exact bug [16:37] so... [16:38] kind of now willing to send those who keep posting "This is an issue how do i fix it" on AU to /dev/chaos, because they're technically reporting a bug [16:38] (offtopic for there) [16:38] seb128: thanks for forwarding that though, i would have had *no clue* where to send it :P [16:38] (that's one of those "Uh...?" bugs :P) [16:40] LoT, yw, thanks for pointing it [16:40] indeed [16:41] why is it conversations on the email system though dont get past only a few messages back and ofrth... [16:41] * LoT thinks the bugsquad and bugcontrol should host a Bugs 101 session on the classroom [16:42] so far there's support for ti, but nobody has stepped up to the challenge of proposing what we would talk about, nor has anyone stepped up to lead it :/ [16:47] Hi, I'm filing bug on booting liveCDs with UEFI, but I'm unsure what package it's supposed to be, the FindRightPackage indicates it should be filed against the kernel, but if I search for "kernel" in the Select a Package dialog, there are too many results. So I'm unsure how to procede. [16:48] LoT, what do you mean "conversations on the email system though dont get past only a few messages back and ofrth" ? [16:48] dpwrussell, ther kernel is "linux" [16:48] thanks [16:49] yw [16:59] hi, could someone hwlp me get my dwl650 to work with aircrack? [17:15] seb128: theres never long-term discussions about what to do, email responsiveness just drops to zero after about 48 hours (so therefore nothing gets done with proposed ideas unless I dredge them back up) [17:15] (sorry if my responsiveness is slow, irssi is lagging and i've got work stuff to do xE) [17:15] xD * [17:18] LoT, yeah, sometimes it's hard to get buy off [17:28] hey seb128, where do wiki bugs get filed on LP, if at all? [17:28] s/wiki/help.u.c/ [17:29] LoT, dunno [17:29] LoT, try https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/ maybe [17:31] seb128: LP Bug 1025375 if you care [17:31] Launchpad bug 1025375 in ubuntu-docs "Doom3 Source links appear to be broken on the wiki" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025375 [17:31] micahg: yous subscirption to bugsquad was disabled, excessive bounces (just a warning, just got a mailserv about it) [17:31] LoT, thanks [17:31] IMO its not a bug, but i'm too lazy (also lagging too much) to change it xD [17:31] seb128: its just invalid links :p [17:32] hggdh: fixed, thanks [18:40] Hey there, I just fixed a bug. How do I close it out in Launchpad? I've never done this before. (: [18:42] littlegirl: which bug [18:42] and define "fixed" [18:42] did yuo fix it and upload a patch, or...? [18:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/852519 [18:42] Ubuntu bug 852519 in kubuntu-docs "Typos and missing entity in Kubuntu 11.10 documentation" [Undecided,New] [18:42] LoT: Yeah, I commited the changes to Launchpad already. [18:42] committed how [18:42] * LoT checks the bug [18:43] With Bazaar. I'm on the Kubuntu doc team. (: [18:43] oh. [18:43] well you put into the debian changelog for the next version of the package Closes LP: #bugnum [18:43] or similar [18:43] what you would do is put "Fix Committed" [18:44] until the package is released, or whatever, at which point "Fix Released" [18:44] not sure if the docs package refers to the actual package with documentation or not [18:44] * LoT doesnt normally watch docs packages, outside of nginx or stackapplet) [18:44] This is an old release. It's for Oneiric. Do I still do that? I'm just trying to close this bug out. (: [18:44] It was typos and errors in the Kubuntu system documentation. It didn't affect Debian. [18:45] can you link me to the branch you pushed the changes to? [18:45] if it exists [18:45] otherwise i'll ping Riddel or someone to take a look and advise [18:45] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/kubuntu-docs/oneiric/files [18:45] I just want to know how to work the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/852519 page and close out the bug since it's now solved. I have no idea how to change the status of a bug. [18:45] Ubuntu bug 852519 in kubuntu-docs "Typos and missing entity in Kubuntu 11.10 documentation" [Undecided,New] [18:46] i just said, you'd put "fix committed" [18:46] BUT [18:46] you'd need to have the package nominated against oneiric [18:46] hey micahg around? [18:46] or mdeslaur [18:46] I'm totally new to all this and have no idea how it's done. (: [18:46] some other bugcontrol person :P [18:47] littlegirl: :P sometimes its a bit confusing, even for those of us who triage daily :P [18:47] someone else on bug control: LP Bug 852519 needs assigning to Oneiric, and probably "Invalid" against Quantal. [18:47] Launchpad bug 852519 in kubuntu-docs "Typos and missing entity in Kubuntu 11.10 documentation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852519 [18:47] LOL [18:47] LoT: one sec, looking [18:48] mdeslaur: thanks much [18:48] apparently LP doesnt want me to assign to individual releases *ever*, so... [18:48] even with bugcontrol it won't let me *shrugs* [18:48] mdeslaur: The changes have been committed and the bug is satisfied. I just don't know the next step(s). [18:48] LAUNCHPAD, Y U NO ACCEPT MY BZR COMMIT [18:48] :/ [18:49] * LoT was uploading to a personal junk branch, and apparently bzr does not like that. [18:49] littlegirl: commited where? [18:49] LoT: I see the FixCommitted status if I click the triangle next to the kubuntu-docs entry near the top of that page. [18:49] mdeslaur: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/kubuntu-docs/oneiric/files apparently [18:49] (read up) [18:49] * littlegirl nods [18:49] s/read/scroll/ [18:49] The translation team asked me to fix that bug, so I committed the changes. [18:50] SERIOUSLY?!?!? *beats his EC2 instance* [18:50] LOL [18:50] sorry about the rant, was working on a bug that required me to push a commit, and its failing [18:50] * LoT blames LP [18:50] I had gone in there and asked if there was anything we could do better and that was his wish. (: [18:50] LoT: It does like the naming of the branches to be just right as I remember [18:50] littlegirl: the bug is about the package in ubuntu, so someone needs to prepare an SRU for the bug to be marked as "fix commited" [18:50] What command are you using for the push? [18:50] mdeslaur: sorry to pull you out of lurkmode :P [18:51] * penguin42 good thing about virtual machines in a cloud - you can't get to them to throw them out of the window [18:51] mdslaur: Who would do that? [18:51] littlegirl: anyone with SRU knowledge [18:51] i can write one up, but you'll have to wait until after i get home [18:51] * mdeslaur goes back into lurk mode [18:51] * littlegirl is brand new to all this [18:51] apaprently the net here at work is headed to implosion-mode, so... [18:51] LoT: Okay, that sounds good. Should I do anything at all on the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/+bug/852519 page or will you do that after you do the SRU stuff? [18:52] Ubuntu bug 852519 in kubuntu-docs "Typos and missing entity in Kubuntu 11.10 documentation" [Undecided,New] [18:52] LoT: Then you must work from home instead. (: [18:54] mdeslaur: the SRU can be done within that same bug, right? [18:54] i wont have to create an additional? [18:54] (typically i've created additional SRU requests) [18:54] LoT: same bug [18:54] wonderful [18:54] you can go back to lurkmode now :) [18:55] either that or you can beat LP's BZR system for me [18:55] LoT: I've just nominated it for oneiric-quantal [18:55] LoT: is it fixed in precise and quantal? [18:55] mdeslaur: ask littlegirl, i havent thoroughly checked [18:55] Checking... [18:56] This may take a while... [18:56] :P [18:56] It was a lot of little changes. (: [18:56] ***WARNING: Networking will go down in 15 minutes for emergency maintenance* [18:56] well that's my queue to email me the data and show up later [18:57] littlegirl: if you wouldnt mind privmsging TheLordOfTime, that's my ZNC that I access from home, i dont normally read scrollbacks if i can avoid it (unless i'm pinged, in which case its logged anyways) [18:57] to send me a reminder XD [18:57] LoT: Are you the one who will be doing whatever needs to be done to it when I'm done? [19:02] bleh [19:03] Oh, good, you're back! How do I private message TheLordOfTime? I can't find that as an option anywhere in this program. (: [19:04] littlegirl: use this as a base, but change the information accordingly and add that to the end of your bug: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1095371/ [19:04] s/your/the/ [19:04] /msg TheLordOfTime secret evil stuff [19:04] make sure to edit the information accordingly though [19:04] so it actually matches what is being asked [19:04] littlegirl: Like that ^ [19:04] then lemme know, i'll help out [19:05] /msg penguin42 OMG WTH STOP GIVING THE EVIL STUFF OUT TO PEOPLE [19:05] xD [19:05] [19:05] anyways... [19:05] exactly [19:06] Heh, I take it the msg command does it? [19:06] yep [19:07] although do not do this: /msg TheLordofTime HAI! [19:07] i'll actually ignore that [19:07] :P [19:08] LoT: Do I paste the results of editing that template into a comment at the bottom of that bug, or do I click the triangle next to Oneiric, Precise, and Quantal and paste the stuff in the correct one(s) and change the status of each? [19:08] put it as a comment [19:08] DO NOT CHANGE THE STATUS OF THE BUG [19:08] AT ALL [19:08] the SRU team will have to do that [19:09] * LoT will subscribe them after you add the SRU templace (which I showed you, which i got from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure ) [19:09] s/template/stuff [19:09] LoT: Ah, okay, gotcha. Good to know. This is why I'm here. If I hadn't come in here, I would probably have just changed the status after figuring out where that was, and imploded the bug. (: [19:10] LoT: Thank you so much for the help! I like to know how things are done properly before attempting them. (: [19:11] I guess I've got my work cut out for me. First I have to find out which releases this affects and whether it needed to be done elsewhere as well. Then I can play with the template and the bug comment. (: [19:11] mhm [19:11] make a note for each though, you'll need a separate SRU for each. [19:12] and i would take a diff from the BZR and upload that as "This is the diff for [blah]" [19:12] where [blah] is the release [19:12] but that's just me [19:12] LoT: Good idea, but only needed for ones where the bug is valid, though, right? [19:12] let me know though if the other releases do not get affected [19:12] because i'll mark them as... what... [19:12] LoT: Will do. I'm about to grep them all after making a list of what to grep for. (: [19:13] mdeslaur: what would those get marked as if it doesnt affect, "Invalid"? [19:13] or "Won't Fix" [19:13] (i keep pulling you out of lurkmode dont I :P) [19:15] LoT: I'd put "Fix released" [19:15] * mdeslaur shrugs [19:15] heh [19:15] cool, i'll do that then [19:35] Oooh, messy. Cleanup in aisle nine. (: [19:36] * littlegirl is finding the bug in Precise and Quantal === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:19] Hey guys, I wish to fix my first bug. [21:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/1022935 [21:19] Ubuntu bug 1022935 in pidgin "libpurple0 package description typo" [Undecided,New] [21:20] it looks pretty manageable. how can I tackle this bug? [21:25] epikvision: I don't have the answer, but maybe you can find it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/FAQ [21:28] littlegirl: how do you know if a package has a packaging system? [21:29] epikvision: I don't know - sorry! I'm not a developer. I do documentation. But I would assume if it's a package it must have a packaging system, or at least it must be handled by one. (: [21:29] alrighty, ty [21:30] Any time, and good luck. (: [22:09] ohai epikvision [22:10] HEY [22:10] nice to see you again, LordOfTime [22:10] epikvision: i'm not certain we submit fixes for minor typos [22:10] usually if we can compound that into another bug's fix, we can kill two birds with one stone [22:10] but typically minor typos don't get an upload. [22:10] I see. Perhaps I need to find a more suitable challenge. [22:11] might check bitesize bugs [22:11] but I'm not adept with any program languages yet. [22:11] where the hell is that list... [22:11] it's hard to judge what define an easy and a hard bug. [22:11] :( [22:12] now you know why i prefer triaging to fixing :P [22:12] less work for me [22:12] Oh yes. [22:13] well... not true when you're the security bug changes guy for ubuntu for a specific package [22:13] * TheLordOfTime glares at nginx for a few seconds, then returns focus to IRC [22:13] speaking of which [22:14] * TheLordOfTime hops over to -hardened [22:14] REALLY? [22:14] damn it how do i miss these things [22:19] TheLordOfTime: what is the recommended way to install quantal? [22:19] while still keeping precise? QEMU totally fails, Virtualbox not so convenient, [23:23] say I want to fix a typo. How do I access the command's output to fix it up? [23:24] I'm stumped on working on a fix right now. [23:27] epikvision: which bug [23:27] remember the typo one I showed you earlier? I want to at least try fixing something. [23:27] i'll walk you through via privmsg in a bit, currently having a discussion with the security team on an nginx bug [23:27] epikvision: bug number. my logs routinely clear :P [23:27] 1022935 [23:28] LP Bug 1022935 [23:28] Launchpad bug 1022935 in pidgin "libpurple0 package description typo" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1022935 [23:28] as mentioned earlier, I have to no experience in bug fixing, so even trying it out seems like a good way to get a feel for bug fixing. [23:29] epikvision: if you want, i'll guide you through where you need to edit, but it'll take a while [23:29] * TheLordOfTime is addressing an nginx security bug with the security team [23:29] ok, thanks. [23:29] that'll help Lord. [23:29] ofTime. lol [23:31] * epikvision waits patiently. [23:39] epikvision: do me a favor (first task). confirm if this was fixed in Quantal. [23:40] (if its fixed in quantal, well... the bug gets marked "Fix Released" or "Invalid" against quantal) [23:40] or something. [23:43] it hasn't been fixed. [23:44] okay, you'll need to fix it for Quantal then [23:44] whoa [23:44] how can I get quantal set up in my computer? [23:45] you wont need quantal to fix it :P [23:45] i'll explain shortly give me a few minutes [23:45] * TheLordOfTime is downloading the quantal package right now [23:45] * epikvision grips his chair.