[03:30] <mishehu> ugh.  I don't get it.  every single time I install 12.04 x86_64 on my box, when I try to install updates from update manager, it hangs forever and never completes (perl being the process that is causing the system to hang)
[03:30] <mishehu> and then everything is fubared and I end up having to reinstall.
[03:33] <tgm4883> mishehu, have you tried updating from the command line?
[03:37] <mishehu> tgm4883: nope
[03:37] <mishehu> it's stuck, I'm going to have to reload again
[03:57] <tgm4883> mishehu, The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
[05:11] <superm1> mishehu: try expanding the little triangle when that happens
[05:11] <superm1> i bet it's debconf waiting on something
[05:11] <superm1> i seem to recall a bug like that being filed
[05:51] <mishehu> superm1: dkpg is running, it's waiting on a forked perl process, and the perl process is stuck on read()
[05:51] <mishehu> I straced it
[13:15] <superm1> mishehu: yeah debconf uses perl, and if it's waiting on a read() it could be that it wants user input but hte dialog wasn't expanded
[13:16] <superm1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/979661
[13:16] <superm1> that's the bug
[13:16] <Zinn> [bugs.launchpad.net] Bug #979661 “oneiric to precise: debconf: unable to initialize f...” : Bugs : “update-manager” package : Ubuntu
[13:16] <superm1> so if you don't yet have that update it might be hitting you
[14:23] <mishehu> superm1: thanks man.  I'll check out the full bug report a little later on today
[14:23] <mishehu> superm1: you still in ATX ?
[14:39] <Shadow__X> HLS seems to be fixed
[18:07] <rhpot1991> Shadow__X: yes it is, guess you didn't get my message about that
[19:38] <Shadow__X> rhpot1991: yeah, I did thanks for telling me about it