[06:07] brobostigon: yes. Treat the domain as a simple string, if it matches what's in ServerName or ServerAlias for a vhost, that's what gets served [07:08] morning all [07:09] GM [07:10] hi you-siry [07:10] wonder how many Olympics visitors will pop in to the channel :) [07:12] * livingdaylight wishes he could airlift himself out and away from jubeelympics to another far far away planet [07:27] Gooooooood morning! [07:34] Morning [07:34] hi folks [07:36] morning morning [07:37] it is wonderful and summery ... [07:38] this weather is getting depressing :( [07:39] christel: But my new conservatory roof now stops the watter getting in! [07:39] Last night was a good test :) [07:42] I need to get the roof looked-at, water comes in sometimes when it rains hard. [07:43] dwatkins: Water came into ours when it rained lightly :( [07:43] i need to clean my gutters, they're a mess [07:52] daubers: i am very glad to hear that, i hate it when water gets in through the roof! [07:53] christel: Yeah, it's a pain [07:54] aloha [07:55] hello pretty girl :) [07:56] Morningall [07:57] * diplo really must work out what is wrong with the space bar... [07:58] diplo: Hit it harder [08:03] yeah i forget early in the mornings [08:03] Really should have complained when i first got it [08:03] but... [08:05] ikonia \o/ [08:05] irssi q: does /ignore -except work with -network? [08:06] I want to ignore JOINS PARTS QUITS KICKS NICKS from everything except bitlbee [08:06] Laney: I usually do the command /ignore joins parts quits nicks for each channel [08:07] I have been doing that, but I think I should just give up and have it anywhere [08:07] it's in my irssi config file now [08:07] so any nw channel I add I just do the command once, save the irssi screen and it's remembered [08:07] * czajkowski really needs to spring clean her irssi config file out badly [08:08] has a lot of old servers in there [08:10] (looks like it does not) [08:12] Good morning peeps :) [08:13] o/ bigcalm_laptop [08:13] Hi AlanBell :) [08:14] daubers: eek :( I had water dripping in due to a tile that had been dislodged, it's been repaired for now, but needs properly sorting out by a trained professional [08:14] bigcalm_laptop :D [08:14] * bigcalm_laptop tickles christel :) [08:15] Nice to see we have proper weather once again [08:15] haha [08:15] None of that silly sun stuff for us today [08:15] indeed :P [08:15] Finally getting rid of The Sun then? [08:16] just been looking at the long range forecast for the BBQ on the 28th, looks like there is a reasonable chance it might be OK again by then [08:17] MartijnVdS: that would be the day... [08:20] AlanBell: I really hope you get some good weather for it :) [08:23] you can hope all you want, i am confident it will be a very wet event! [08:24] Water pistols! [08:24] paddling pool! [08:25] \o/ === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:33] morning all [08:35] BBQ [08:35] \o/ [08:35] | [08:35] bah [08:39] a one-legged czajkowski! no wonder you didn't make it on saturday [08:39] lol [08:39] nothing is keepig me from the BBQ [08:39] so I had better not get ill again [08:39] hehe [08:39] plus jon wants to go play with the chickens [08:39] awww [08:39] yay [08:40] i've never played with AlanBell's chickens :( [08:41] well they will be out and about at the BBQ I expect [08:41] and you can probably take some eggs home [08:42] wonder if you can bbq eggs somehow [08:42] They are the meat for the festivitys? [08:42] Just stick a frying pan on the bbq AlanBell [08:42] diplo: yeah, can do, and I have a side burner thing for frying stuff actually [08:42] * AlanBell cheats and uses gas [08:43] Nooo [08:43] :) [08:44] I actually have a gas bbq, but rarely ever use it, well I can't for the last year as the last person I lent it to has still not returned it. [08:45] hrmm.. i suspect you can, i've had grilled quails eggs (wrapped in pancetta) mmm [08:45] though i wonder if they were pre-boiled before grilling [08:45] I do pre-cook quite a lot of stuff for BBQ's [08:46] chicken especially [08:48] Would it be wrong to have chicken at the BBQ? [08:48] only if it is the one that died yesterday [08:49] :( [08:49] sorry, tasteless :x [08:50] christel: probably would be a bit tasteless by the 28th, certainly [08:51] Heh [08:51] bigcalm_laptop: cooking chicken is fine, as long as my three stay raw [08:52] how about taunting the live chickens with the cooked chicken? [08:52] haha [08:55] gord: http://twitpic.com/1qdq0f [08:55] LOL [08:55] i saw a horror movie like that once [08:58] anyone (perhaps dogmatic69) know any good guides on creating mysql indexes to fix slow queries? [08:58] I can do an explain select, I see what needs fixing, but I don't really know what to fix [09:00] any libreoffice dudes can tell me how to disable autocomplete in a cell in calc? [09:00] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1094550/ is what I am working on, a select statement that takes 7.65 seconds to run [09:01] Time for us to check out [09:01] My wallet is not looking forward to this bit [09:03] hehe [09:15] AlanBell: the basics is index on the join fields and then conditions [09:15] I am on the way out now, will be back in a few hours [09:15] good morning everyone. [09:26] brobostigon: Morning ;) [09:28] morning Twinkletoes :) [09:32] anyone else coming to http://www.meetup.com/Openstack-London/events/55354582/ [09:41] hii [09:47] BigRedS: ok, thank you, good point, [09:57] czajkowski, odd that it doesn't show location [09:57] popey: it does when you register [09:57] have just had this exact coversation with Zee Fab [09:57] yes, I get that [09:57] still odd [09:57] morning all [09:57] guess mark wants people to sign up [09:57] popey: nice video [09:57] thanks davmor2 [09:57] aye lotta hits on the video! [09:59] popey: I thought that you missed a load then realised that they were all pretty much covered by the key map overlay so stood corrected :D [09:59] i did miss some stuff [09:59] noticed myself that I missed Super+1 [09:59] etc [10:00] popey: yeah but again that is all pretty clear on the keymap that you did talk about [10:01] popey: infact my only criticism is that you kept talking about pressing the alt button, but didn't cover the difference between tapping for hud and holding for menus etc, but that was really digging hard to find a fault :) [10:01] heh :) [10:14] popey: I didnt know you could min and max the dash so thanks [10:14] it was a very useful video [10:14] it's a cool vid [10:14] a few people have mentioned they've learned styff [10:14] *stuff [10:14] which is basically the goal [10:15] czajkowski: prod morning [10:29] A morning of prodding? Sounds unpleasant. [10:31] Dave2: it's just how I say morning to czajkowski [10:31] popey: how's the head anyhow? [10:32] perfick [10:32] popey: bigcalm obviously took a week off to recover :) [10:32] hah [10:34] haha [10:42] Anybody mind me spamming a job posting here? [10:42] (or link too) [10:51] daubers: nope [10:53] 19 weeks of odd desktop back grounds :) https://plus.google.com/photos/102921374554385564572/albums/5730819334465556225 [10:59] http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=3390094 <- Junior Software Engineer :) Mostly python [11:12] hmm python [11:13] hello [11:15] MartijnVdS: \o/ python [11:15] (itym) [11:16] * popey tickles james_w with a stick [11:16] alan@deep-thought:~$ apt-cache search pkgme [11:16] pkgme - ===== [11:16] oi! [11:17] that could probably be better formatted [11:17] indeed [11:17] * james_w blames dholbach [11:17] excellent [11:37] Hey guys - any tips on how to handle a FUD campain against a project? [11:37] The_Fred: Laugh and move on [11:38] talk to directhex about that kind of thing [11:38] * Laney giggles [11:38] okay, first, grab your baseball bat, hammer, and box of nails [11:38] check [11:38] good long nails. nine inch is best [11:38] also check [11:39] and then find a big oak tree to nail them to it eh? [11:40] I worked bloody hard on my project, and its taking off well, but now it seems ive attracted the wrong sort of attention [11:40] then put them down, and calmly pretend that you don't care about the FUD, because the CoC says you can't call those behind it anything accurate [11:40] out of interest, what's the project? [11:40] Speech input for ubuntu [11:41] using which framework? [11:41] java and python [11:41] http://ubuntuspeechinput.zymichost.com/ [11:42] huh. and what kind of FUD is happening? [11:43] All my efforts of promotion across lots of various sites are being commented as complicated and non functional [11:43] its a template response [11:44] across around 12 sites so far - the exact same comments time and time again, and then the forum was filled with spam hate posts [11:44] so i had to rebuild it twice during the weekend [11:44] hm. the competition, perhaps? [11:45] yea, i guess... but what commercial effort is there in speech recognition for ubuntu? I did my homework and found none! [11:46] there are open source projects... but i dont think they would act like that [11:46] ( i hope) [11:46] i guess i'm not sure what to suggest in this situation. sounds pretty coordinated [11:47] Ill just weather it out and see what happens, the site hoster is keeping their own logs because a breif DDoS was attempted on the site [11:48] thanks anyhow directhex [11:48] The_Fred: Ah I can see you used the word Ubuntu but it's for android that will confuse the FUDers ;) [11:49] well, its a dual part system, the app does the actual speech recognition, and the desktop python code does the typing [11:50] The_Fred: do you have plans to add security to the comms to the desktop? Currently looks scarily easy for anyone to send anything they like into it. [11:50] perhaps its *because* both names are used thats waved a red flag at someone [11:50] The_Fred: then I wonder if what is happening is the users are installing the Android bit and not the Ubuntu bit then I assume it does nothing right? [11:51] ormiret, yes - security is a major concern - that last thing i want is to intoduce an hole [11:51] The next update will take steps to address that [11:51] but thats another reason why I want to keep the desktop code open [11:52] This will turn into a big project fast, and the desktop code will be more than i can handle alone [11:52] Id prefer to concentrate on the android work, which is my bread and butter [11:53] personally I'd hand off the security stuff to SSH since what you want to do is run xdotool on the desktop. Saves writing anything new for the desktop side. [11:53] ormiret, thanks, thats excellent advice [11:54] davmor2, currently I email either the .deb or python code to the users after they have installed it, and the numbers tally,so I dont think its the actual users being critical === Killerjim is now known as KillerJim [11:56] davmor2, plus, i get feedback direct from the app from the users, and so far its been very encouraging [11:56] :) [11:57] The_Fred: so basically it's not the users reporting the fud so it is just wallies (the polite version remembering the channel we are on) [11:58] davmor2, yes - i think that if the users had any omplaints then the comments on Google play and the feedback via the app would let me know [11:58] davmor2, so, yes, its just the wallies [12:01] * The_Fred goes to brush up on SSH [12:20] The_Fred: is the recognition done on the phone, or in the googleplex? [12:21] that depends on the phone,older models (before 4.0) will use the googleplex, newer devices with jellybean have it on board [12:22] interesting, thanks [12:46] any recommendations for invoicing software on ubuntu? Server or Desktop [13:31] andylockran, is this of any use? http://www.gnucash.org/ [13:58] Adobe Flash Player was blocked because it is out of date [13:58] :( [13:59] Laney: press "just this once" iirc [14:00] I think there actually is an update [14:01] Yeah, but you can make it work 'just this once' without updating [14:02] ye [14:02] now I've forgotten what I wanted to look at [14:02] guess that's a solution [14:10] Hi, I would like to add Gnote to startup applications. However, I don't know what to put in the 'command' dialog. Help, anyone? [14:11] livingdaylight: 'gnote'? [14:11] yes [14:11] if you do alt-f2, type gnote adn then hit enter does that start gnote? [14:11] if so, then 'gnote' is what you need to put in [14:12] BigRedS, as simple as?! Cheers. I thought I had to figure out the long path /usr/bin bla /bla [14:13] livingdaylight: you can get that with 'which' in a command prmpt if you do ever need it [14:13] type which gnote and it'll tell you where it is [14:13] sweet. that's really useful - thanks. [14:33] The_Fred: thanks === El is now known as Guest72057 === mrevell_ is now known as mrevell [14:59] Hi === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [16:04] I stumbled upon snmp (i think its called) due to being the only monitoring available on my nas. coupled with cacti its pretty cool [16:05] I like that its a standardised format, not some proprietary or custom format of other monitoring apps === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [16:06] snmp is still full of proprietary .. things :) [16:06] also, it's very definatley not "simple" [16:06] but it's in the name! [16:06] like tcp/ip or http [16:07] Try and code something that uses snmp monitoring [16:07] and traps [16:07] When you've finished vomiting, you'll agree [16:07] The nightmares! The nightmares! [16:07] I doubt there are many protocols that are "pretty" [16:07] dogmatic69: HTTP, SMTP are "pretty" [16:07] Ive written php libs for pop / smtp [16:07] So is POP3, FTP [16:07] o.o [16:07] dogmatic69: I quite like MQTT... MQTT-S is pretty nice too [16:07] bit less vomit worthy [16:08] MartijnVdS: SMTP is not my idea of pretty [16:08] dogmatic69: but it's a simple text protocol [16:08] especially when you start doing multi part mimes [16:08] dogmatic69: compared to snmp it _very_ pretty [16:08] that's MIME being ugly :) Nothing to do with smtp [16:09] I guess [16:09] the hand shake bits are ok [16:13] MartijnVdS: I guess it has a bit to do with the amount of different data and formats it carries [16:14] daubers: MQTT looks like something I need actually === KillerJim is now known as KillerJim|Away [16:23] dogmatic69: I'm trying to impliment mqtt-s over xbee at the moment [16:23] bit of a challenge [16:32] daubers: on arduino? [17:06] hi, could someone hwlp me get my dwl650 to work with aircrack? [17:06] eee444: you've been asked not to keep asking the same question in multiple channels [17:08] nice job on spamming another two after being asked and told not to === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [17:28] Hello from Worcester! [17:28] Hello from Midlothian! [17:30] hello form north oxfordshire. [17:30] from* [17:30] hello from wet surrey! [17:32] lol [17:32] hey bigcalm_laptop http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUu1yKLEhaBGrdvIrtk5epAw&v=8DhXod6nLcU&feature=player_detailpage#t=21s :) [17:35] gord: yay [17:37] I wish my Quickcam driver would compile, then I could do night and day timelapses. [17:41] bigcalm_laptop: Boo! [17:49] ali1234: my C920 just arrived [17:51] AlanBell: is like a wee timorous beasty with big pointy teeth? [17:52] cool. [17:54] Glad to see that "it" is *still* out - was having nightmares all night in case "it" had been recalled to the Adams Family! well done channel header for reassuring me each time I log on ;) [17:55] davmor2: not a mouse, webcam thing [18:06] * dwatkins notes with a grin that launchpad uses Japanese (and therefore ASCII-sortable) date formats [18:10] hello [18:10] hello [18:11] hello [18:12] hmm, i can't load thunderbird up for some reason [18:13] zleap: try sudo killall thunderbird and then open again [18:14] just came to london today for olympics ^_^ [18:15] are you competing? [18:15] yes^_^ [18:15] http://s18.postimage.org/4dbgeeyk7/Ax4_Gk0_VCMAEt21_H.jpg [18:15] here is view from our house here [18:15] i think we have best view [18:15] cool [18:15] that is a nice view [18:16] there's the rollercoaster thing [18:16] lol [18:18] hmm i hate refactoring code [18:18] but it has to be done [18:18] lol http://www.entermyworld.com/rich/drex/volo/dvolob.jpg [18:18] is this in your racer game thing ali1234 ? [18:19] ali1234: refactoring > writing new [18:19] what, the rollercoaster? [18:19] or the refactoring? [18:19] i have to rewrite the procedural geometry code so that it is editable [18:19] which means changing the way the classes work [18:21] dogmatic69, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2124408/Pimp-Sinclair-C5-Plumber-turns-electric-wheeler-40-mph-monster-truck.html [18:21] ali1234, what's your game written in? [18:21] C++ [18:21] popey: lol [18:21] popey: I like your new pc btw. [18:22] heh [18:23] been looking for one for ages [18:23] whats it running? [18:23] uhm [18:23] its a VT105, it's entirely dumb [18:23] ah [18:23] oh you got one! [18:23] yes [18:24] does it work? [18:24] https://plus.google.com/photos/109365858706205035322/albums/5765697140058194497/5765697142232113634 [18:24] yes [18:24] couple of broken keys [18:25] plugged it into anything yet? [18:25] popey: not sure if you have / want / need this, http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/1,18269 [18:26] oh, handy [18:26] ta [18:26] AlanBell, not got it yet [18:26] np, just looking for some stats on it and that popped up [18:26] oh, ok I look forward to you tweeting from it popey [18:27] assuming I can get it talking to anything [18:27] "control of the terminal is via a detachable keyboard that operates much like a typewriter" [18:28] popey: seems like its mainly for graphing? [18:28] I guess it plugs in to a USB serial adapter or something [18:28] well, the "EIA communications connector" I hope is serial :) [18:30] 4.4.1 implies it is [18:30] RS-232-C [18:30] im back ^_^ [18:31] "The keyboard keys are the only moving parts of the terminal and require no preventive maintenance by the owner" [18:32] supports max 19.2K baud [18:32] be fun to do some graphing on it [18:34] are you coming to see olympics? [18:36] ugh... what's the difference between int *foo and int &foo again? [18:36] yousiry, nope [18:37] one is preceded by an asterisk while the other is preceded by an ampersand? [18:37] * Azelphur runs [18:38] ali1234: Not much [18:38] ali1234: You can assign to an &foo with out the & [18:38] it's about const isn't it? [18:38] ali1234: e.g. int x(int &foo) { foo=5; } x(y) causes y to be changed [18:39] ali1234: No, not const - it's a reference [18:39] ali1234: as opposed to int x(int *foo) { *foo =5; } x(&y) causes y to be changed [18:39] yeah but const int *foo -> you can't change what it points to [18:39] const int &foo -> you can't change the value [18:39] oh, I'd have to think about that [18:40] :( [18:40] references are like fixed pointers [18:40] popey: Project 1) minecraft server monitor / graphing [18:40] it's usually about this time that i make everything public [18:40] heh [18:40] there are two separate places you can put the const with a const pointer, one for the pointer and one for the value [18:42] as usual, i know what i need to do but cannot resolve it in the twisty world of object oriented design [18:43] mmmhomemade pizza o clock! [18:43] ali1234: So, const int * foo, is a pointer to a const int - so you can't change the value [18:43] * penguin42 liked cdecl [18:44] i was going to say C++ obviously works for ogre but then i remembered it doesn't you can't extend any of the ogre classes easily [18:45] because you have to use factories for everything and the factories dont see your extended classes [18:54] * AlanBell sorts out a cone of clean [18:55] hah [19:09] AlanBell is such a good housewife! always cleaning and stuff! [19:10] :P [19:13] the cone of clean is a zero sum game [19:15] ok stage 1 of the refactoring went okish. i moved all the geodisic calculation into a separate class that can be recalculated at will [19:21] ali1234: do you know if it would be possible to have an induction charger powered by a battery? :p [19:21] anything is possible [19:21] science. \o/ [19:21] i doubt it will be efficient though [19:22] yea, not too much aiming for efficient [19:22] was thinking "coat pocket phone charger" [19:23] ali1234, no its not: you cant ride a snail to the sun :P [19:23] yes you can [19:23] you can with science [19:23] how? [19:23] why i did it only last week [19:24] lool [19:24] so- how did you get back? [19:24] http://starboard.flowtheory.net/static/img/stand-back-try-science.png [19:24] \o/ [19:25] hehe going to try science....lol not I've got an hypothesis to examine [19:26] \o/ trublr working [19:27] photographic evidence http://imagebin.org/221014 [19:27] you need a better camera [19:27] "space dust" [19:27] also lies, that person is smiling, can't possibly be grumpy pants ali1234 [19:27] it gets on the lens [19:28] i am back [19:28] just had mcdonalds ^_^ [19:28] we have mcdonalds in olympic village [19:28] sorry about that [19:28] not very healthy^_^ [19:28] did you pay with visa? [19:29] Oh - thats cool: python parallel port is in the repo's [19:29] no payment popey ^_^ [19:29] free for atheletes [19:30] lol [19:30] are there other eateries? [19:30] but not so healthy ^_^ [19:30] yes there is more food [19:30] and many game rooms [19:30] Bloaties Pizza Hog? [19:30] sorry - i mean pizza hut. [19:31] i didnt see everything yet [19:31] we just came today [19:31] what is your event yousiry? [19:31] table tennis [19:31] * AlanBell is a paralympic gamesmaker [19:32] AlanBell: you mean you like arguing on the internet? [19:32] yousiry, where'd you travel from? [19:32] yes! [19:32]