[04:39] <bradleyayers> any plans to add a "restart delay <seconds>" stanza?
[04:39] <bradleyayers> i'd love one.
[04:56] <SpamapS> bradleyayers: you can fake it with script stanzas
[04:56] <SpamapS> if [ -z "$UPSTART_JOB" ] ; then sleep 1 ; fi
[04:56] <SpamapS> $UPSTART_JOB will only be set on automatic start
[04:56] <bradleyayers> what's -z?
[04:56] <bradleyayers> ah
[04:57] <SpamapS> -z is a test for empty string
[04:57] <bradleyayers> what's automatic start?
[04:57] <bradleyayers> as opposed to what
[04:57] <SpamapS> actually I'm not 100% sure on restart it won't still be set
[04:57] <SpamapS> automatic as in, as a result of 'start on'
[04:57] <bradleyayers> also pre-start failures dont result in respawn
[04:57] <bradleyayers> which was unexpected to me
[04:58] <SpamapS> its by design
[04:58] <SpamapS> pre-start is supposed to be the gatekeeper
[04:58] <SpamapS> respawn should only happen when a thing expected to work fails
[04:59] <bradleyayers> yeah that's reasonable
[04:59] <bradleyayers> i just didn't expect it
[05:00] <bradleyayers> thanks for responding :D
[05:00] <bradleyayers> this place is quiet
[05:00] <SpamapS> at times
[05:01] <bradleyayers> would a "respawn delay" stanza be welcomed? 
[05:01] <SpamapS> Well you're the first to ever ask for it
[05:01] <SpamapS> but I doubt a patch would be rejected
[05:02] <bradleyayers> there was a post to the mailing list in 2010 about it 
[05:02] <bradleyayers> http://osdir.com/ml/upstart-devel/2010-08/msg00007.html
[05:02] <SpamapS> bradleyayers: its probably more desirable that your service get smarter about being stopped/started rapidly
[05:02] <bradleyayers> hmm
[05:04] <SpamapS> bradleyayers: I'd suggest pre-stop but I think there's a bug that prevents those from running on restart
[05:17] <bradleyayers> hmm