[04:39] any plans to add a "restart delay " stanza? [04:39] i'd love one. [04:56] bradleyayers: you can fake it with script stanzas [04:56] if [ -z "$UPSTART_JOB" ] ; then sleep 1 ; fi [04:56] $UPSTART_JOB will only be set on automatic start [04:56] what's -z? [04:56] ah [04:57] -z is a test for empty string [04:57] what's automatic start? [04:57] as opposed to what [04:57] actually I'm not 100% sure on restart it won't still be set [04:57] automatic as in, as a result of 'start on' [04:57] also pre-start failures dont result in respawn [04:57] which was unexpected to me [04:58] its by design [04:58] pre-start is supposed to be the gatekeeper [04:58] respawn should only happen when a thing expected to work fails [04:59] yeah that's reasonable [04:59] i just didn't expect it [05:00] thanks for responding :D [05:00] this place is quiet [05:00] at times [05:01] would a "respawn delay" stanza be welcomed? [05:01] Well you're the first to ever ask for it [05:01] but I doubt a patch would be rejected [05:02] there was a post to the mailing list in 2010 about it [05:02] http://osdir.com/ml/upstart-devel/2010-08/msg00007.html [05:02] bradleyayers: its probably more desirable that your service get smarter about being stopped/started rapidly [05:02] hmm [05:04] bradleyayers: I'd suggest pre-stop but I think there's a bug that prevents those from running on restart [05:17] hmm