[02:47] <IdleOne> http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ games!
[09:58] <jussi> IdleOne: games rock - Im pretty happy valve has finally gone that way
[10:01] <DJones> There's only one game playing though...Minecraft :)
[10:01] <DJones> s/game playing/game worth playing/
[10:05] <jussi> DJones: lol, you have been hanging out with popey too long...
[10:05] <DJones> Heh
[10:05] <popey> :D
[10:06] <DJones> In defence of popey, I've not seen him play Minecraft for weeks
[10:07] <jussi> he plays it vicariously through his kids...
[10:07] <jussi> :D
[10:07] <popey> busy coding
[10:07] <popey> decided I wouldn't play till I had some code finished
[10:17] <jussi> So do we think that steam will actually bring some big names titles to ubuntu?
[10:23] <DJones> Thats definatly not a question for me, I haven't got a clue about games steam have released/distribute, apart from minecraft, I've not bought a game for about 10 years
[10:23] <DJones> :)
[10:23] <popey> jussi, well there's already all the recent humble bundle ones which are mostly on steam
[10:24] <popey> so if you already bought those you can install them easily via steam
[10:25] <jussi> popey: yeah, Im kind of more talking about the super popular mainstream titles
[10:25] <popey> time will tell
[10:25] <jussi> interested to see whether stuff you see out there being advertised will make it to Ubuntu
[10:26] <jussi> popey: this is true :P
[10:26] <popey> i expect so, after a while
[10:27] <DJones> Hmmh, Actually, I've just realised, my game buying days seem to have gone around the same time I started going with my (now) wife..........
[10:28] <jussi> hahaha
[10:28] <AlanBell> is there some kind of reference specification for running steam games?
[10:28] <jussi> TBH I havent bought a game since I found civ3 at a garage sale a couple of years back
[10:29] <jussi> AlanBell: good question, Im not sure.
[10:29] <AlanBell> with consoles like the PS2 or wii the designers know the spec and frame rate it can do etc because they are all the same
[10:30] <jussi> AlanBell: true, but how do the PC creators do it?
[10:30] <AlanBell> well I know for doom and quake you could turn down the resolution, but I haven't played any PC games since that era realy
[10:31] <jussi> I think they can still do that
[10:31] <AlanBell> I know games can be quite taxing because there are gaming PCs that are high end still
[10:32] <AlanBell> you can set up flight simulators with multiple monitors, probably other games too
[10:33] <jussi> true
[10:33] <jussi> flight sims are not an issue on linux though, as the best one you can buy is native linux
[10:34] <jussi> (and anyone who tries to tell me ms flight is the best shouldreally go try xplane, which equips flight sims that you can actually earn hours on...)
[10:35] <AlanBell> I have only played flightgear
[10:35] <jussi> its ok, ish, but Xplane is the industry leader.
[10:45]  * popey notes flight sims don't feature in.. http://digitalbattle.com/2012/02/21/top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-ever/
[10:46] <popey> nor http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2011/07/26/top-10-steam-games-of-2011-so-far-usa.htm
[10:46] <popey> or http://store.steampowered.com/#topsellers
[10:46] <popey> :)
[11:09] <jussi> popey: however, I would wager a bet that if you took flights sims combined sales over their life, they would be among the top sellers. ie. MS Flight has been around for 20 odd years...
[11:10] <jussi> so flight sims are like a long term investment :)
[11:17] <AlanBell> dunno, I think they probably cater to a fairly specific audience though
[11:17] <AlanBell> more people in total can play angry birds and get something out of it than a flightsim
[11:22] <jussi> true that
[11:22] <jussi> a specific, but loyal and cashed up audience
[11:22] <popey> who buy one expensive app every few years
[11:23] <jussi> popey: no
[11:23] <popey> relative to casual gamers, yes
[11:23] <jussi> popey: there are lot of addons that people buy, new aeroplanes, new terrain, cities etc.
[11:23] <jussi> its not just the game itsself
[11:23] <popey> sure, there's dlc
[12:42] <popey> how does this look? (the bottom one) http://popey.com/~alan/onair.png ?
[12:43] <popey> nice and simple imo
[12:43] <AlanBell> I like it
[12:46] <jussi> popey: yeah, me too, its nice
[12:46] <popey> thanks chaps
[12:47] <popey> (I didnt make it)
[12:48] <Pici> The CoF on the right looks out of place on the bottom one imho.
[12:48] <popey> it does a little..
[12:48] <MrChrisDruif> popey; I think I prefer the top one
[12:49] <MrChrisDruif> But that is just feeling, I can't describe why I prefer it over the other. Probably less obstrusive