=== philipballew__ is now known as philballew === popey_ is now known as popey === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch === jibel_ is now known as jibel [16:00] o/ [16:00] Hello [16:00] greetings [16:00] utlemming: driving today? [16:00] Daviey: up, just pulling all the stuff up now [16:00] super duper [16:01] o/ [16:01] o/ [16:01] #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team [16:01] Meeting started Tue Jul 17 16:01:38 2012 UTC. The chair is utlemming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 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[16:01] #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:02] hiho [16:02] jamespage: you had an action to checkin with MIR team on expected review timescales for server MIRs [16:02] and zul to make sure relevant MIR bugs have ubuntu-server-release subscribed [16:02] most MIR's are now assigned an owner - there are a few I still need to checkin on [16:03] utlemming: oops [16:03] I also went through the MIR team subscribed bugs and added the 'Ubuntu Server Team' a bug subscription for those packages [16:04] so I think the list is now up-to-date in http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:04] jamespage: is there any further action on that? Or do we need to carry it over for next week? [16:04] i have at least 5 more dependencies coming up, still need to be reviewed by an archvie admin [16:04] there is but the original action got me todo the important stuff so please close [16:05] I'll keep pushing on this stuff - lets monitor through the development update section [16:05] zul: do we need followup next week? [16:05] utlemming: no i can do that once they get into the archive [16:05] okay, moving on... [16:05] arosales: had an action to sort out blueprints and get the trend line working correctly [16:06] arosale: do you have a status update for us? [16:06] I spoke with Daviey on the topic mapping [16:06] I need to get the trend line reset [16:06] I'll try to get that done this week. [16:07] #action arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset [16:07] ACTION: arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset [16:07] inpreogressy-done-ish [16:07] smoser, jamespage: had an action for review and assign SRU bug across team. [16:07] done [16:08] okay, rbasak: find out whether openvswitch module can be enabled for quantal ARM kernels [16:08] utlemming, mark that done - kernel team confirmed they would review [16:09] jamespage: ack [16:09] #topic Quantal Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Quantal Development [16:09] Any topics for Quantal Development? [16:09] A few for Blueprints [16:10] utlemming: may I interject? [16:10] arosales: please === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [16:10] So we should roughly be around 30% complete for BPs at this point in the cycle [16:10] there are a few that are at 0% [16:11] I'll step through those if you don't mind utlemming [16:11] ARM [16:11] rbask a few that are at 0% [16:12] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-arm.html [16:12] specifically [16:12] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-benchmark-and-performance [16:12] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-arm-server-storage-testing [16:12] for rbasak for the log minutes [16:12] utlemming: push to the clouds [16:12] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-push-to-the-clouds [16:12] I think hardware is in progress there, other status up to date? [16:13] Bug Triage [16:13] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review [16:13] Ursinha: any update on reports for triage work? [16:13] Juju BPs [16:14] Charm release policy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy [16:14] and [16:14] Charm Unit test: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests [16:14] SpamapS: I think you have made some progress on the release policy correct? [16:14] arosales, no updates now, maybe next week [16:14] m_3: I think you have also made some progressing on unit testing [16:15] Ursinha: ok, thanks [16:15] Openstack Juju Charms Next steps [16:15] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-charms [16:15] adam_g: how are the openstack charms? [16:15] arosales: the release policy was merged and is part of the official documentation for juju now === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [16:16] arosales: implementing it is another story. :) [16:16] arosales: they've been in sync with upstream development, but those TODOs are still TODO. [16:16] SpamapS: so 0% still valid for release policy [16:16] adam_g: we need to work on getting all of the actual openstack charms into the charm store, and having the CI tests running *off of those* [16:16] adam_g: ok, thanks [16:16] cloud-init [16:16] SpamapS: im not sure that'll work, but we'll talk [16:17] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils - smoser? [16:17] arosales: no I marked one of them DONE because the release policy is "done" [16:17] not a top priority, but at 0% so thought I would bring it up here [16:17] adam_g: if that won't work, then we should just dismantle the charm store. ;) [16:17] SpamapS: ok, thanks [16:17] arosales, i'll update that today. [16:17] smoser: ok thanks [16:17] and one last one for rbasak: [16:18] SpamapS: they are forks of the upstream charm store charms, with lots of special sauce added for our environment. isn't that the point? [16:18] perhaps you can also comment smoser [16:18] adam_g: no, forking == fail [16:18] adam_g: actively synced forks, i might add [16:18] apt [16:18] er [16:18] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-apt-improvements [16:18] SpamapS: lets talk later [16:18] adam_g: yeah we will [16:18] apt BP also at 0%, but I know there is a spec out for review. [16:18] I think we've more or less reached consensus on the broad plans for the apt improvements inside Ubuntu [16:19] So now I need to get back to full steam ahead on testing my PoC, and on turning the current productions into something that is production ready [16:19] rbasak: good to hear, could you also follow up on the ARM BPs mentioned above? [16:19] Sorry I was late to the meeting. I'll check the logs when they're published [16:20] rbasak: ok, thanks [16:20] utlemming: those are the 0% ones that I wanted to bring up. I realize some 0% is valid as we are working on the items but they can't be marked as done just yet. [16:20] utlemming: back to you [16:20] #action everyone update their blueprint status [16:20] ACTION: everyone update their blueprint status [16:20] #topic Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:21] daviey: care to comment on the bug status? [16:22] okay, moving on then.... [16:22] #topic 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser) [16:22] jamespage and smoser: how goes 12.04.1 [16:22] utlemming: can we can come back to the bugs after 12.04.1 udpate [16:23] I added a couple of bugs for tracking [16:23] hm.. well, there is plenty of work todo. [16:23] arosales: yes sir [16:23] http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html [16:23] http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html [16:23] snap [16:23] * jamespage lets smoser lead [16:24] or at least I tried to add them. What is required to get bugs into the tracker? [16:24] well, given that list there, anything targetted, we really need to get cracking on [16:24] utlemming: sorry, had a brown out. [16:25] juju and maas have a lot, that we're expecting an update for. those are the single largest things. [16:25] but if your name is on osomething there, or you think you can help, please take a bug and fix it. [16:25] ask someone to review and / or upload. [16:25] Daviey: that was me yesterday...we'll come back to you after the current topic :) [16:25] RE: maas.. currently in discussions how to do this.. it is making progress. [16:25] smoser: note that most of juju's were moved to precise-updates [16:25] jamespage, do you have any more "GET IT DONE!" like comments? [16:25] smoser, I had a few specific bugs I would like to raise [16:25] please do. [16:26] bug 858867 [16:26] Launchpad bug 858867 in cobbler (Ubuntu Quantal) "XMLRPC allows unauthed users access to various methods (which it shouldn't) " [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/858867 [16:26] there's a security upload coming for juju, and then one more upload to proposed to fix a few of the more important things for 12.04.1 [16:27] this one has been kicked around for a while; as cobbler does not form part of our provisioning solution going forward should we really care about this for 12.04.1 [16:27] bug 988819 we just agreed to re-consider the approach [16:27] Launchpad bug 988819 in mod-proxy-html (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU] wrong path to libxml2.so.2 in mod_security - broken by multiarch enabled libraries" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/988819 [16:27] jamespage: err.. maas in 12.04 needs it [16:27] for 858867, i had asked roaksoax to ask upstream about this. [16:28] SpamapS, that really depends on ' RE: maas.. currently in discussions how to do this.. it is making progress.' [16:28] bug #990162 is a new one on the radar as well [16:28] we really should ask upstream what they recommend. [16:28] Launchpad bug 990162 in The Eilt project "armhf version is unusable -- task switches will cause sigsegv's" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/990162 [16:28] and bug 975473 [16:28] Launchpad bug 975473 in MAAS "eliminate cobbler code copy" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975473 [16:28] smoser sorry i got delayed with maas stuff, i'll take care of it today [16:28] ah [16:28] zul: 990162 is fixed in Quantal I hear? Is that confirmed? [16:29] jamespage: that is in progress, we might have something by EoW... but for quantal [16:29] rbasak: yeah [16:29] (maas-provision / cobbler-copy) [16:29] I guess targets for 12.04.1 still need to be agreed then. [16:29] rbasak: quantal has a newer version, but the fix should be backported to precise [16:30] zul, it would be good to get that webob SRU nailed as well. [16:30] * rbasak marks it as Fix Released in Quantal [16:30] jamespage: agreed ill spend some time on it tomorrow [16:30] other than that I would say that we have already pushed through a large number of SRU's [16:30] \o/ [16:30] well done! [16:31] nice :-) [16:31] james_w: which one? [16:31] okay, back Daviey [16:31] #topic Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ubuntu-server-team Meeting | Current topic: Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:32] bugs :-) [16:32] So.. the page is empty for me.. it was working :) [16:32] so we are still working on bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 [16:32] I'll investigate that [16:32] Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] [16:32] hallyn: I saw a fix for that though . . . [16:32] stgraber was going to bring that up at the next foundations mt [16:32] mtg [16:32] hallyn: ok, thanks. [16:33] super [16:33] bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023066 [16:33] Launchpad bug 1023066 in quantum (Ubuntu) "python-quantum fails to install due to python syntax errors" [High,Triaged] [16:33] jamespage: I saw you take an initial look [16:33] arosales: i fixed that quantum thing upstream, it should be fixed with the next quantum upload (this week?) [16:33] adam_g is on it [16:33] zul / adam_g: bug 1020313 [16:33] Launchpad bug 1020313 in horizon (Ubuntu) "openstack-dashboard hijacks the web root" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020313 [16:34] adam_g: thanks [16:34] on it [16:34] bug 844995 .. volunteer ? [16:34] Launchpad bug 844995 in python-couchdb (Ubuntu) "Drop support for couchdb related packages" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844995 [16:34] shouldn't be super complicated [16:35] note that touches kombu as well [16:35] eh? [16:35] to drop python-couchdb to universe we have to drop support from kombu [16:35] bug 1024408 also needs a volunteer :-) [16:35] Launchpad bug 1024408 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal installs do not include software-properties-common by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024408 [16:36] arosales: if nobody else takes that, i'll have it [16:36] * Daviey takes it [16:37] nobody want to sign up to, bug 844995 ? [16:37] Launchpad bug 844995 in python-couchdb (Ubuntu) "Drop support for couchdb related packages" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844995 [16:37] Ooh, I was going to propose that we did that [16:37] rbasak: do you want it? :) [16:37] Go on then [16:37] \o/ [16:38] rbasak: wait, which one do you want? [16:38] both? :) [16:38] FYI maas related MRI's are not being tracked on the report [16:38] 1024408 [16:38] err MIR [16:38] roaksoax, please let me know which bugs and packages - I'll get it sorted [16:39] jamespage: see the c-m report [16:39] jamespage: it just needs bug subscriptions to be added [16:39] Daviey, yeah - I know [16:39] err, PACKAGE bug subscriptions [16:39] super [16:39] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg [16:40] jamespage: bug #1020267 [16:40] Launchpad bug 1020267 in python-pytyrant (Ubuntu) "[MIR] celery, pyparsing, python-cl, python-gevent, python-mailer, python-pytyrant, python-redis" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020267 [16:40] bug #1024086 [16:40] Launchpad bug 1024086 in python-tx-tftp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-tx-tftp" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024086 [16:40] bug #1020278 [16:40] Launchpad bug 1020278 in raphael (Ubuntu) "[MIR] raphael" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020278 [16:40] bug #1020273 [16:40] Launchpad bug 1020273 in yui3 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] yui3" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020273 [16:40] jamespage: ^^ [16:41] roaksoax, ta - doing now [16:41] lets move on.. [16:41] thanks all [16:42] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:42] Any one have any events? [16:42] OSCON this week [16:42] robbiew, m_3, jcastro, and jimbaker all doing presentations. [16:43] Any others? [16:43] Cloud Open coming up next at the end of August. [16:43] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:43] hggdh: Do you have anything interesting for us this week? [16:44] not really, apart from the surprise we got on arm testing [16:44] there are no usable images for server... [16:44] do you have a bug number? [16:45] no bug; the last update on server image was on June 27th, so I believe this is known [16:46] and may be part of the move to a live system as opposed to preinstalled [16:46] okay, good to know [16:46] I just wish I had been notified of it [16:46] .. [16:46] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:46] smb: anything of importance this week? [16:47] okay, moving on then... [16:48] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) [16:48] Just one note from me. highbank support for precise should be landing shortly, in bug 1004011 [16:48] Launchpad bug 1004011 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu Precise) "Add support for highbank in flash-kernel" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1004011 [16:48] hmm [16:48] One SRU which we mentioned earlier, bug 990162 - ahs3 is working on a backport for this [16:48] Launchpad bug 990162 in python-greenlet (Ubuntu Precise) "armhf version is unusable -- task switches will cause sigsegv's" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/990162 [16:48] Nothing else to report. Any questions for me? [16:49] #topic Open Discussion [16:49] Any one having anything else to add? [16:49] hggdh: for being out of context.. the ARM server images are unrelated to squashfs switch.. There is an unrelated issue, which is being blocked on the switch, as they are anticipating more issues. [16:50] hggdh: what is worrying, is that it took 2 weeks for QA to notice :P [16:51] Daviey, not automated testing yet I guess :-) [16:51] Daviey: should we have some follow up on this issue then? [16:52] well, it's in hand AIUI [16:53] #topic Announce next meeting date and time [16:53] * Daviey waits for the suprise. [16:53] same time, same place? [16:53] July 24th 2012, 1600 UTC right here [16:53] util we virtual meet again.... [16:53] #endmeeting [16:54] thanks for chairing utlemming [16:54] * SpamapS got split off w/ meetingology :-P === shadeslayer_ is now known as evilshadeslayer === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [18:20] Hi [19:56] hi there ;) [19:57] hi [19:57] hi hexe25 === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell [20:00] SergioMeneses: huats xdatap1 itnet7 ping [20:00] here we are [20:01] who is charing [20:01] don't all jump up at once :) [20:01] :) [20:02] good night everyone [20:02] sorry I am late [20:02] I can't sorry [20:02] itnet7: nods [20:02] huats, could you chair please? [20:02] here I am... good night guys [20:03] czajkowski: I can [20:03] even if I am a bit rusty with the commands [20:03] huats, thanks dude! [20:03] thanks huats \o/ [20:03] yay [20:04] ok [20:05] #startmeeting Loco Council 2012 07 12 [20:05] huats: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. [20:05] #chair huats [20:05] hallo everybody [20:06] #topic Germany reapproval [20:06] utlemming: can you please end your last meeting [20:06] (not sure if the bot got that right, since it err'd on your first command. Already a meeting running?) [20:06] yep I have just realized that [20:07] hey guys. Sorry for being late. I was stuck in traffic. [20:07] yup trying to kill that meeting [20:07] no problem, MarkusH :) [20:07] huats: just carry on [20:07] ok never mind for the bot [20:08] ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda [20:08] We have a busy meeting ! [20:08] hi huats [20:08] 'LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GermanTeamReApprovalApplication2012 [20:08] Is there anyone from Germany ? [20:09] hee are some of the german loco men and women [20:09] o/ [20:09] o/ [20:09] huats: from the german LoCo: yes, a few. [20:09] * tomx3 <-- here for example [20:09] o/ [20:09] o/ [20:09] welcome folks [20:09] hello ubuntu-germany [20:09] ok guys [20:09] thanks for coming [20:09] thanks for coming [20:09] great Ubuntu-de [20:09] Is there anyone who want to speak ? to explain us the main topics ? [20:09] and another german guy [20:10] or the main points from your reapproval ? [20:10] yes I can, huats [20:10] where are the german guys? :) [20:10] and another german woman :) [20:10] o/ [20:10] SergioMeneses: we are waiting for toddy to speak ;) [20:10] toddy: than go ahead :) [20:10] nice wiki page [20:10] Thanks. :) [20:10] welcome [20:11] thank you czajkowski [20:11] ok ok :=) [20:11] o/ [20:11] This year we are a little bit late with our application. Sorry for that. [20:11] toddy: thats fine [20:11] toddy, don't worry [20:11] so tell is about your loco, how things are done [20:12] we have a big loco with over 200 people in the group of the loco [20:12] and any more that are not organze in the loco group [20:13] we habe many groups (over 20) in Germany with have local meetings [20:13] nods [20:13] impressive [20:14] we have every year a big meeting, this year in Berlin [20:14] the ubucon [20:14] well done on useing the LTP http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-de-locoteam/events/history [20:14] On LinuxTag in Berlin we have made a nice Ubuntu Lounge with couches and we have had the biggest booth of all projects. [20:15] toddy: how do you organise you taking part? does everyone get involved ? [20:15] do you have any idea of the attendance of the ubucon ? [20:16] everybody can be a member in one of the groups of the locoteam [20:16] toddy: can you explain a bit more about the groups [20:16] and the groups are member of the locoteam (the orga in lanchpad) [20:17] toddy, could you tell us more about ubuntu Deutschland e.V.? [20:17] huats: 200 till 250 people are every year at the ubucon [20:17] or if anyone else wants to talk please do [20:17] in berlin maybe more [20:17] 250 people!!! great [20:18] well done [20:18] Great work [20:18] great === medberry is now known as med_ [20:18] czajkowski: there are different groups the ops of ubuntu-de (channel on freenode), the german portal ubuntuusers.de [20:18] czajkowski: the e.V. is a "eingetragener Verein", an organisational unit which helps you a lot in germany with legal, financial or logistical issues. [20:18] SergioMeneses: what do you want to know about the e.V. -- it's mainly a legal base for out stuff [20:18] our* [20:18] communtu, a built system for ubuntu, czajkowski [20:18] czajkowski: basically, if you want to have such a big organisation in germany you better register one of those, since else it's quite hard to manage. It is a legal entity and therefore also a contact point. [20:18] I have another question : (2 actually) is juliux still involved ? and how have you done the ubuntu-eu transition ? [20:18] apollo13, it is only for support? [20:19] Fuchs: oh interesting [20:19] SergioMeneses: no the e.V. is just for legal stuff, you can't do anything without it in germany [20:19] thanks for explaining [20:19] huats: yes juliux is still involved [20:19] huats: he is not here, couse he is at holiday [20:19] huats: transistion from what to where, ubuntu-eu still exists ;) [20:19] toddy: please say hi to him :) [20:19] if you mean the server structure [20:20] huats: I will do that :) [20:20] apollo13: that is what I meant :) [20:20] since we had a lot of team complaining with that [20:20] :) [20:20] apollo13, Fuchs great [20:20] SergioMeneses: for support there is ubuntuusers.de and mailinglists, that's also the reason why the page of the e.V. is pretty empty [20:20] apollo13, I see [20:20] (and the #ubuntu-de channel namespace) [20:21] ok, one last question, any issues you've had in the last 2 years and antying else we should know about ? [20:22] issues? just that linux-mint people think an ubuntu forum is the perfect place to ask about mint issues -_- *scnr* [20:22] :D [20:22] :D [20:22] hehe [20:22] :D [20:22] ;-) [20:22] apollo13, jaja [20:22] We have had problems to get ubuntu-cds ;-) [20:22] *grin* [20:22] tomx3: in what way ? [20:22] yes, tomx3 that is correct [20:22] like what? [20:23] we have order loco-cds and we didn't get this cds [20:23] czajkowski: juliux said that he has not got an answer to his order [20:23] but shipit people mailed recently and chased up on it, did you reply [20:23] and I have order too and I didn't get one cd [20:23] who is the team contact ? [20:23] and did they request it [20:24] juliux and me [20:24] hmm ok [20:24] toddy: can you please email shipit after the meeting and cc the loco council and we will chase up on it [20:24] I asked teams to do this last meeting also, but have not heard from them [20:24] I've no further questions [20:24]