[04:24] <micahg> jbicha: there will be another haskell upload, you might want to hold off on the rebuilds
[04:25] <jbicha> oh, haskell's annoying :(
[07:32] <dholbach> hey Laney, how are you doing?
[07:32] <dholbach> do you know where ubuntu_upload_history went?
[07:36] <Laney> dholbach: ajmitch needs to update postgres on that machine
[07:37] <dholbach> Laney, to me it looks like the table has  been gone for a bit more than two weeks - could that be?
[07:39] <Laney> yeah
[07:39] <dholbach> ok :-/
[07:39] <Laney> it's still available on the udd host, so if you're able to use that
[07:39] <Laney> just the ubuntuwire mirror is broken
[07:42] <dholbach> ah ok, thanks
[14:22] <v0lksman> hello all! Is it ok to ask general packaging questions in here or is this only for motu discussion?
[14:23] <highvoltage> v0lksman: you can ask general packaging questions
[14:23] <v0lksman> excellent.  thanks!
[14:23] <highvoltage> v0lksman: although there's also a #ubuntu-packaging channel fwiw
[14:24] <v0lksman> likley very simple but is there a way to roll back a build?  IE I put together a package, everything compiled into .debs as expected but now I need to tweak the package again as I missed a small component.  How do you do that?
[14:24] <v0lksman> to date I just wipe everything out and start over but that seems very wastful and almost certainly wrong... :)
[14:26] <v0lksman> debclean? :)
[14:27] <highvoltage> how did you generate your .deb files?
[14:31] <Bachstelze> v0lksman: no need to wipe anything, just rebuild the package, it will overwrite the old one
[14:31] <v0lksman> debuild
[14:36] <v0lksman> Bachstelze: I tried that yesterday but it didn't seem to work.  It failed on patches etc...I think debclean did the trick though
[14:48] <Bachstelze> v0lksman: normally debclean should be run before every build
[14:48] <Bachstelze> so you shouldn't need to run it manuallly
[14:49] <v0lksman> Bachstelze: really?  hrm.  Interesting.  Well I'll try again after this build completes as I'll likley have left something out again.  :)
[15:30] <jokerdino> heya everyone. i thought i would step forward with helping a bit around chromium browser ppa's. is there anything i can start working on now to get myself familiar with more advanced packaging and stuff?
[15:31] <jokerdino> i am willing to help and i am willing to learn to help. please do take my offer.
[15:31] <jokerdino> *please do consider my offer
[15:33] <micahg> jokerdino: being familiar with the bzr workflow would help
[15:34] <jokerdino> i have started using bzr a bit more now.
[15:34] <jokerdino> i guess i can play with bzr in my playground.
[15:36] <jokerdino> well, i guess i could a mentor as things get going o.O
[15:36] <jokerdino> * i could use a mentor
[15:38] <micahg> jokerdino: I'd be happy to help with that as soon as I get a few other things out of the way
[15:38] <jokerdino> micahg: thanks much.
[15:38] <jokerdino> i think i will camp in this room for sometime then. =)
[15:47] <dholbach> who could imagine running a session at the next Ubuntu Developer Week? we still have loads of session slots open
[15:47] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable :)
[15:48] <dholbach> and if you just want to cover a small topic like "getting watch files right" or something like that, we have 30 minute slots available too
[15:49] <jokerdino> adding it to google calendar. don't want to miss awesome lessons =)
[17:35]  * micahg is getting tired of people hitting the retry button on haskell-criterion
[17:42] <ScottK> micahg: Perhaps retry failures should get mailed to the retrier, not the original uploader.
[17:43] <micahg> ScottK: well, that too, but I'd kinda like to know who doesn't get haskell so they can be educated :)
[17:43]  * ScottK hands micahg a stick.
[17:44] <micahg> heh
[19:59] <\sh> crap crap crap
[20:02] <micahg> \sh: bad day?
[20:02] <\sh> micahg: fighting with freeipa-client on 12.04
[20:02] <\sh> ipa-getkeytab should do something...but it does nothing...which is strange
[20:04] <\sh> and strace gives me nothing...when I compare the strace output between 12.04 and F17 ... 12.04 stops after trying the get locales ...
[20:06] <\sh> and being in the Pacific timezone doesn't help to reach the right people on u-server
[20:07] <micahg> there are some people there
[20:07] <\sh> micahg: not tjaalton ;)
[20:08] <\sh> or kklimonda ;)
[20:08] <\sh> imho they are all on european timezone...
[20:10] <\sh> filing bugs
[20:18] <ScottK> \sh: Why are you in the Pacific TZ?
[20:19] <\sh> ScottK: Because I'm in california :) being in the Citrix Online HQ
[20:19] <ScottK> OK.  Temporary or permanent?
[20:19] <\sh> ScottK: this is my 2nd month, still one to go...eventually relocating next year
[20:19] <ScottK> Ah.
[20:20] <ScottK> \sh: Welcome to America.
[20:20] <Laney> people should stop touching haskell
[20:20] <\sh> ScottK: thanks :) if I would have known that California is so nice and friendly I would have come earlier ;)
[20:20] <Laney> maybe I should mail -devel or something
[20:21] <ScottK> Laney: Perhaps a closed packageset.
[20:21] <ScottK> I suspect the ones giving you trouble don't read devel.
[20:21] <Laney> it's not trouble for me, just wasted time (human and buildd) and bug mail for micahg
[20:22] <\sh> ScottK: you are in the eastern TZ of the States, right?
[20:22]  * Laney goes offline. Will think about it.
[20:22] <ScottK> \sh: Yes.
[20:23]  * micahg is in the middle
[20:23] <\sh> ScottK: hopefully I have a opportunity to go somewhere near jersey or Raleigh/NC...need to visit some offices
[20:23] <ScottK> OK.  I'm pretty much in between those two.
[20:23] <iulian> Laney: Bleah.
[20:25]  * iulian looks at -changes.
[20:25] <\sh> ScottK: when I know more, I give you a ping so eventually we can meet on american soil ;)
[20:25] <ScottK> Sounds good.
[20:25]  * \sh is in Goleta, so Santa Barbara area...nice place 
[20:25] <ScottK> iulian: I think it's mostly people hitting the retry button.
[20:27] <ScottK> Looks like Goleta is the very end of LA.
[20:27] <\sh> LA is i don't know 1.5/2 hours drive?
[20:27] <ScottK> I mean the LA area.
[20:28] <\sh> oh yes..
[20:28] <ScottK> AFAIK, California is LA, SFO, and wilderness.
[20:28] <\sh> hehe
[20:29] <Laney> One day I'll go climbing in Yosemite
[20:29] <Laney> phwoar.
[20:29] <\sh> I had a nice time in San Jose, so Sillicon Valley...nice area, good weather...I like it hot...and on the 08/15/2012 I'm somewhere in Mountain View, Shoreline Amphitheater watching Kiss, Moetley Crue and The Treatment :)
[20:30]  * Laney hopes \sh has been there
[20:31] <\sh> Laney: I'm still doing too much of work :) really, need to relocate to catch up with all the nice places here :)
[21:12] <\sh> what was the magic to produce ddeb packages?
[21:27] <highvoltage> it exists already?
[21:45] <\sh> highvoltage: not for freeipa ;)