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jamespage | jibel, I think that tomcat test failure is related to the fact that tomcat7 has not actually completed startup by the time the test runs.... | 11:34 |
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jamespage | jibel, OK if I increase the pre-test sleep time to 60 seconds? I think that may work around this problem | 11:35 |
jamespage | gema, ^^ | 11:36 |
jamespage | not sure where babyface is.... | 11:36 |
gema | jamespage: babyface is in china, so probably sleeping or about to | 11:36 |
gema | jamespage: sounds good | 11:36 |
gema | jamespage: is it normal that tomcat7 takes longer to load? | 11:37 |
jamespage | gema, it takes about ~32 seconds on a m1.small in canonistack | 11:38 |
jamespage | its doing a bit more as I have enabled all examples to work this cycle - so it loads more code... | 11:38 |
gema | jamespage: ack, if it is expected I am happy | 11:38 |
jamespage | gema, I suspect it was probably always close - looking now at tomcat6 | 11:40 |
jamespage | gema, yes - looks like a change in behaviour when generating some randomness during initialization after reboot | 11:52 |
jamespage | gema, Creation of SecureRandom instance for session ID generation using [SHA1PRNG] took [3,527] milliseconds. | 11:53 |
jamespage | my laptop | 11:53 |
jamespage | that takes about ~30seconds in a virtualized/cloud instance | 11:53 |
jibel | jamespage, that's what I've been testing. No problem with incresing to 60s | 11:54 |
jamespage | jibel, done - I've just re-run the jobs... | 11:55 |
jamespage | we will see | 11:55 |
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phillw | skaet: ping | 18:56 |
skaet | hiya phillw | 18:56 |
phillw | hi skaet, A quick Q.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule shows A3 still being tested at August 2nd A-3; iso tracker says July 23rd through July 26th is Alpha 3 testing. | 18:58 |
phillw | They can't both be right! | 18:58 |
skaet | phillw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule has it july 26 | 18:59 |
skaet | stale cache? | 18:59 |
phillw | skaet: indeed, but also has it still there being tested at week 14! | 18:59 |
phillw | with Iteration planned for week 15 | 19:00 |
skaet | phillw, are you sure you're not picking up cached versions? | 19:01 |
skaet | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock | 19:01 |
skaet | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule | 19:02 |
skaet | both show july 26 (week 14) for me. | 19:02 |
phillw | skaet: I've just cleared my chache. A3 is flagged as launch week 13, still there week 14 & iteration seek 15. | 19:02 |
skaet | or rather july 26 (week 13) for me. | 19:02 |
skaet | ah, I see what you're referencing now. | 19:03 |
phillw | s/seek/week | 19:03 |
skaet | yeah, there's an A-3/interation week that need fixing. | 19:03 |
* skaet doing | 19:03 | |
phillw | hmm, should make it fun. Next lubuntu meeting is on 25th July - which I had as 8 days before A3 switched :( | 19:04 |
phillw | Ah well, it will make for interesting meeting! | 19:04 |
skaet | phillw, A3 changed on 5/30 after discussion in the weekly meeting, etc. when we removed the "DRAFT" notification (rev. 32). | 19:11 |
phillw | I recall Release Schedule causing a slight nightmare for some one last cycle... well, this time it is Lubuntu's turn :D I'm just letting our devs and testers know that my earlier email stating that we had 8 days as of the next meeting is now 1 day :) | 19:13 |
phillw | fortunately they're all on the L-QA mailing list, so an easy way to ensure all are notified! | 19:14 |
phillw | Still, at least Feature Freeze etc hasn't moved :) | 19:19 |
phillw | balloons: ping | 19:24 |
balloons | si senor phillw ! | 19:25 |
phillw | hiyas, did you get any further information on bug 1007394 | 19:26 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1007394 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Quantal daily fails to complete installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1007394 | 19:26 |
balloons | phillw, I saw someone asking for more information | 19:28 |
balloons | stgraber, I believe | 19:28 |
balloons | I didn't followup after that | 19:28 |
balloons | weird | 19:28 |
balloons | I didn't get any of those response | 19:28 |
balloons | I'm subscribed? | 19:28 |
balloons | You are not directly subscribed to this bug's notifications. | 19:29 |
balloons | whoops | 19:29 |
phillw | he he, cj was the last person to ask for info, which Lars furnished. | 19:29 |
balloons | ok, I'm up to speed more now | 19:30 |
balloons | it looks like the bug is progressing fine | 19:30 |
xnox | balloons: phillw: I was advised to troubleshoot in emulated powerpc vm | 19:30 |
xnox | but I didn't get around to it yet. | 19:30 |
balloons | ohh really? | 19:30 |
balloons | I've not tried doing that since BOSCH | 19:30 |
balloons | remember that project? | 19:30 |
xnox | who is BOSCH? | 19:30 |
xnox | I though of using qemu | 19:30 |
balloons | sorry.. http://bochs.sourceforge.net/ | 19:31 |
balloons | I mistyped | 19:31 |
balloons | doesn't help in this situation anyways ;-) | 19:31 |
phillw | xnox: the instructions for VM are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac64 if you're rusty :) | 19:31 |
phillw | That is how our head of dev does his testing. | 19:32 |
balloons | phillw, neat pae | 19:33 |
balloons | *page | 19:33 |
stgraber | replied to the bug | 19:33 |
phillw | balloons: the instructions were written by gilir (Julien). I take no credit for them, I just posted them on there from the email he sent out. | 19:34 |
phillw | thanks stgraber | 19:35 |
phillw | wb balloons | 19:36 |
balloons | whoops.. ctrl+w in wrong window :-) | 19:36 |
phillw | he he, I thought you were maybe using the trekweb znc server. It's in the process of being moved to a VM on thesii owing to fact his 'old' server keeps dying on him. | 19:37 |
balloons | nah, I'm on boring ec2 | 19:38 |
xnox | balloons: boring, until thunderstorms roll in ;-) | 19:38 |
balloons | xnox, lol.. so true | 19:39 |
balloons | my connectivity stayed up though, so I can't complain | 19:39 |
balloons | even if I lost actual access | 19:39 |
phillw | he did say that he was going to leave trekweb web area on EC2, although he does have room to move it at a future date if he needs to. | 19:40 |
phillw | as trekcaptainusa-tw@ubuntu.com seems to be the ubuntu maintainer for znc, it was the least we could do for him after he helped in setting up irc.thesii.org :) | 19:41 |
phillw | oh, balloons, the devs for Speech Control have now been officially nagged to get me some details as to how to install the beta & test it! | 19:42 |
balloons | hurray! | 19:43 |
phillw | we have a trustees meeting in 18 minutes, so I will ask the dev-trustee how things are coming along :) | 19:43 |
balloons | lol.. cool, he's the znc guy eh? | 19:43 |
balloons | I still don't know how to mod my config (without using webmin) to setup multiple networks | 19:44 |
phillw | yup, he did try to get it built on CentOS to add a platoform, but ran out of time owing the server failure & his VM is now ubuntu-server. | 19:44 |
phillw | TheLordOftime (or LoT), does not appear to be on IRC at the moment. You'll find him on #sii when he is. | 19:46 |
balloons | TheLordofTime.. | 19:47 |
balloons | hmm, pretty sure I've met him | 19:47 |
balloons | I'll have to remember to bug him | 19:47 |
phillw | he was last seen muttering about having to scp a load of stuff from the dying server onto the VM | 19:47 |
phillw | he's a really nice guy - one of the other pre-requisites for getting a VM with SII :P | 19:48 |
balloons | :-) | 19:51 |
phillw | he used to be EvilResistance on IRC, but changed his nick. | 19:53 |
phillw | he's also one of the bug-squad people & I have permission to 'bug' him if I have a valid reason for, say, moving the importance of bug 1007394 to critical. As you did not give permission, I did not :) | 19:54 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1007394 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Quantal daily fails to complete installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1007394 | 19:54 |
phillw | another net split :( Is everyone updating their CentOS servers? :P | 20:00 |
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balloons | heheheh | 20:00 |
phillw | we've just switched to 6.3..... new kernel, and 631 updates :D | 20:02 |
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phillw | balloons: did you get chance to have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/GettingInvolved/MoreInfo ? | 20:32 |
phillw | is back from meeting... devs have a nightmare :) Create documents that humans can understand :P | 20:33 |
balloons | phillw, briefly | 20:33 |
balloons | I made some changes last night that i just went ahead and migrated | 20:33 |
phillw | i saw the late date stamp on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/GettingInvolved/ but never know what TZ it is in! | 20:34 |
balloons | hehe | 20:35 |
balloons | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/GettingInvolved/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ are the same | 20:35 |
balloons | I just pushed the changes | 20:35 |
balloons | your stuff I think can be linked to somehow | 20:35 |
phillw | I stripped out stuff that was already on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/GettingInvolved/ and just left it as.... well more info with an explanation to how release cycle works. | 20:36 |
balloons | yes, I think that's a good angle to attack | 20:37 |
balloons | a sort of what to expect page | 20:37 |
phillw | balloons: he he, we do have a gruesome on on Lubuntu for newcommers .... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/TheStages | 20:38 |
balloons | Let me edit it a bit more | 20:38 |
phillw | wasn't sure if that is 18 rated, though :) | 20:38 |
balloons | phillw, ok, I really gutted it down | 20:51 |
balloons | time to see what can be added back | 20:51 |
phillw | okies, which one(s) did you gut?.... brb, dog wants out! | 20:52 |
phillw | back :) | 20:57 |
balloons | still haven't hit save | 20:57 |
balloons | very close! | 20:58 |
phillw | he he :) | 20:58 |
balloons | ok, there's a big shift | 21:02 |
balloons | I took out much of the bottom half, as it's also described on the activities page and I wanted to keep it small | 21:03 |
balloons | however, there may be room to bring it back in, or bring some english like descriptions back anyway | 21:03 |
balloons | have a look | 21:03 |
balloons | of course we have backups :-) | 21:03 |
balloons | I know there's other things people should know that we could add to that page | 21:04 |
balloons | but I don't want to overload too much :-) | 21:04 |
balloons | ok, a couple more minor edits | 21:06 |
balloons | ok, I think that's a shell of what i'mn after | 21:07 |
balloons | have a look | 21:07 |
balloons | there's room to add back some of the content in a more condensed form if possible I think | 21:08 |
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