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ronnieAny one on here04:20
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MCR1Hi everyone :)07:56
MCR1didrocks: I need your help :-[07:57
didrockshey MCR1, what's up?07:57
MCR1didrocks: Yesterday I messed up my Compiz/Unity installation and now I am having trouble restoring it:07:57
MCR1didrocks: https://answers.launchpad.net/compiz/+question/20335307:58
didrocksMCR1: there is an abi break in current compiz, did you try rebuilding it?07:58
MCR1didrocks: I thought it would also be useful for others to have this question answered.07:59
didrocksMCR1: well, it's not straightforward, and we don't support local installation, it really depends on what you have done07:59
didrocksMCR1: also having an ABI break every week, we can't tell "there is an ABI this time or this time"07:59
didrocksalready have not enough time to do what I want to do, don't add support for people making local install to it :)08:00
MCR1didrocks: I just need to know which files I have to remove/change to make a reinstall via synaptic possible, please08:01
didrocksMCR1: really depends on what you did with your make install08:01
didrocksdid you look at where files were installed?08:01
didrocksbecause the PREFIX is tweaked to different installation path08:01
didrocksso can be in your home, can be in /usr/local or can be on the system version08:02
MCR1didrocks: I will reproduce where it exactly installed to. One moment.08:03
MCR1didrocks: /usr/local seems to be Compiz default08:04
didrocksMCR1: ok, so the easiest for you is to:08:05
didrocksMCR1: look at all the binary packages in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/1:0.9.8+bzr3249-0ubuntu2/+build/361696008:06
didrocksthen, dpkg -L them to see the files that are installed08:06
didrocksremove them, replacing /usr by /usr/local08:06
didrocks(no need to remove those user /usr/share/doc/ as it's packaging related)08:06
MCR1didrocks: Thanks a lot for your time, it is very appreciated. I will try your suggestions. The install log, btw: http://pastebin.com/vefFtffz08:08
didrocksMCR1: yeah, you can start by the install log as well, but it's better to start from what the package is installing08:09
didrocksMCR1: ensure that all (apart from the empty packages) are installed08:09
didrockscompiz-plugins is optional though08:09
MCR1didrocks: I am still not sure how to best test actual Compiz/Unity builds though - I can build both from source, but I have no idea how to run those versions then to make my tests.08:10
didrocksMCR1: if you don't change the packaging, use the packaging :)08:10
didrockslike bzr branch lp:ubuntu/compiz08:10
didrockshack compiz08:10
didrockscd packaging branch08:10
didrocksbzr merge ../your_experiment08:10
didrocksbzr bd08:10
* MCR1 knows nothing about packaging yet, but is happy to learn new stuff... :)08:12
MCR1didrocks: Thanks again - I will save this conversation to not forget anything :)08:13
didrocksMCR1: no worry :)08:14
sil2100didrocks: ok, a short status update regarding the state of the SRUs ;)08:14
sil2100didrocks: (hello btw.)08:15
* didrocks is all ears ;)08:15
didrockshey!08:15
* seb128 reads SRU08:15
MCR1didrocks: I am calmed down already, but it is the second time I killed my Unity installation and I am still waiting for the first time I fix it again, so your help is highly appreciated. :)08:16
sil2100didrocks: regarding unity SRU - we're STILL pending on the 2 merge requests regarding software center integration ;/ Trevinho and Brandon reviewed the branch, all seemed ok and working - but I see from the comments that they have another idea on how to fix this problem08:16
didrocksMCR1: heh, experimenting is learning :)08:16
sil2100And Bilal is needed to comment on that it seems...08:16
didrockssil2100: yeah, I pinged upstream more than 6 times on that MR :/08:16
didrocksin the past 3 weeks08:17
sil2100didrocks: and there's still the thing about the patch for software center itself08:17
didrocksif only they were moving faster08:17
didrockssil2100: well, it's done, right?08:17
didrocksthat's what Gary was telling,08:17
sil2100didrocks: there's an MRQ for that, but it's not yet approved as well08:17
didrocksthat the software-center side is pending for weeks08:17
didrocksyeah, they don't approve it until unity sru is ready08:17
MCR1didrocks: Unfortunately afaik there is no wiki yet to get newbies into Compiz/Unity development...08:17
sil2100didrocks: ah, ok - cool08:17
sil2100didrocks: anyway, hm, we can either merge it in as it is (those 2 branches), or wait for Bilal to look at the new idea today08:18
MCR1didrocks: As these projects are quite special...08:18
didrocksMCR1: http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/08:19
didrocksnot sure how up to date this is though08:19
didrockssil2100: I prefer that we get the right implementation for software-center08:19
sil2100didrocks: regarding compiz SRU - I'll be pinging Daniel about the few MRQs I did, but there's still the issue with bug #95503508:19
didrockssil2100: it's something that regressed too much08:19
ubot5Launchpad bug 955035 in compiz (Ubuntu Precise) "Super-W shows vanishing windows the first time you hit it. Windows fly off the screen instead of spreading." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95503508:19
didrocksargh :/08:19
didrockssil2100: ok, please ensure this is in08:20
MCR1didrocks: Oh, thx - did not know that one - saved ;)08:20
sil2100didrocks: since I still have no clue on what commit fixes this bug ;) Since I saw people said that Timo's packages didn't have the bug, but there was no explicit fix for that in it!08:20
sil2100didrocks: and I'm assigned to this bug, although I never really fixed it explicitly - I only fixed the other super + W issue and hm, somehow it magically (?) fixed this one08:20
didrockssil2100: yeah, so would be good to sync that up with him :)08:20
sil2100didrocks: so I'll do that ;)08:21
didrocksheh, great!08:21
didrocksgood luck and thanks for the info :)08:21
didrockssil2100: do you think it will be possible to get that out for tomorrow morning?08:21
didrocksalso try on the ML, really stating that getting the 2 branches merged in today (counting the night) is something that is not negociable08:21
didrocksit's getting tight for the SRU time08:22
seb128didrocks, sil2100: can we get the SRU rolling without the s-c fix? it can make it to the next round...08:23
didrocksseb128: well, mvo is asking it hardly for a month already08:24
didrocksseb128: I already skipped it for next round because upstream couldn't review it08:24
didrocksso deal with them, but I think they will be quite not happy if we skip it again :)08:24
seb128didrocks, he's asking for a month but they still didn't review the merge request on their side?08:24
seb128didrocks, let me troll him :p08:24
didrocksseb128: they reviewed it08:25
didrocksseb128: just not merged08:25
didrocksbecause of unity08:25
seb128oh, I see08:25
seb128no mvo trolling then, what a shame :p08:25
didrocksgetting 2 to 3 pings a week08:25
didrocksabout it08:25
didrocksif only upstream was really acting… :p08:26
didrocksseb128: trade mvo trolling for dx trolling :)08:26
seb128is that Trevinho I need to troll? :p08:28
didrocksyou have a wide variety of choice there :)08:29
sil2100:)08:32
sil2100Well, yesterday Trevinho and Brandon picked up the review, so it's cool08:32
sil2100But as I said - they have a 'new' idea it seems08:33
popeydidrocks, do you recall a conversation at the sprint where we discussed the issue where the screen doesn't get redrawn when coming out of suspend or when unlocking the screen on nvidia, something about resetting the card at specific points?08:47
popey(morning all btw)08:47
didrockshey popey08:47
didrockspopey: yeah, we discussed that, I told you that it was supposively working since precise08:47
didrocks(for nvidia cards)08:47
didrockspopey: DBO told he worked on it at the time08:48
didrocks(it was assigned to him)08:48
popeyhmm, need to file a bug then, it's broken on my nvidia imac08:48
didrockspopey: if it's broken for you, I'm afraid it's broken for all nvidias then :/08:48
didrockswas a coordination between tseliot and DBO08:48
* popey tries his other nvidia08:48
MCR1popey: I can confirm that bug - I am using dual/triple monitor setup here with ATI gallium (opensource) driver and sometimes one of the screens will stay black after log-out and back in again08:50
popeyits not that it stays black, as such, stuff gets drawn but it doesn't appear until you click on it08:50
popeyi.e. move the mouse over the launcher and the launcher appears, then click the panel, that appears08:50
MCR1popey: oh, then it is another bug - did not experience that one - do you have mipmapping enabled in CCSM ?08:52
didrockssil2100: for compiz, you did start from the full list I posted?08:52
popeydunno, default 12.04 install08:52
MCR1popey: then no08:52
MCR1popey: Just asking because mipmapping is currently quite broken and enabling it leads to screen not updating troubles08:53
sil2100didrocks: the list of commits? Yes, I did08:56
didrockssil2100: excellent, thanks!08:56
sil2100didrocks: hm, libunity wasn't released with unity 6.0? Why?09:15
didrockssil2100: oh you're right, it's unreleased, let me fix this09:16
mhr3y didrocks no likey new libunity?09:17
sil2100didrocks: thanks09:17
didrocksmhr3: indeed, but shhhh :)09:17
didrocksseb128: libunity needs some NEWing ^09:18
seb128didrocks, looking09:18
didrockswait for 5 minutes so that it's getting into the queue :)09:18
MCR1Real oldschool Compiz presentation 8-) : http://vimeo.com/322099609:20
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Trevinhoseb128, sil2100: need something?10:56
seb128Trevinho, hey10:56
seb128Trevinho, context was10:56
seb128<sil2100> didrocks: regarding unity SRU - we're STILL pending on the 2 merge requests regarding software center integration ;/ Trevinho and Brandon reviewed the branch, all seemed ok and working - but I see from the comments that they have another idea on how to fix this problem10:56
seb128Trevinho, we need that in ;-)10:57
seb128Trevinho, do you know the status?10:57
Trevinhoseb128: so... I'm checking the latest comments10:59
Trevinhoseb128: however, basically they seem to revert the change... It's not the best solution probably, but if we have no other way...11:00
seb128sil2100, ^ does that match your understanding?11:01
sil2100Ok, I see Bilal wants to stay with this fix - and as it's confirmed as fixed, I think I'll approve it11:07
Trevinhosil2100: mh...11:10
Trevinhosil2100: see my latest comment... I don't agree soo much with that...11:10
didrockssil2100: please ensure that Trevinho agrees first :)11:12
didrockswe had a story of regression on this feature11:12
didrocksI prefer that the core and trusted unity developers ack it11:13
didrocksso if Trevinho has objections, don't approve it :)11:13
Trevinhodidrocks: I don't want to block it, but it looks here that we basically change the behavior not adding the icon when the installation starts to the launcher...11:14
Trevinhodidrocks: the icon is added only at the very end...11:14
didrocksTrevinho: maybe you can check that also with tremolux on #software-center?11:14
Trevinhodidrocks: the user experience seems changed too much11:14
didrocksI think they discussed it with design11:14
TrevinhoI'll contact him... I don't know if he's alredy up11:15
didrocksTrevinho: he's around in ~3h I think11:16
Trevinhodidrocks: ok, I've pinged him in the mean time, I'll wait11:18
Trevinhodidrocks: do you know if they postponed the "flying" to the unity launcher for other reasons?11:18
Trevinhoprobably #1011681?11:19
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didrocksTrevinho: I guess the prefered to have the logic into software-center to avoid all the regressions we had11:26
Trevinhodidrocks: yes, I agree...11:28
sil2100hm11:30
sil2100didrocks, Trevinho: ok, so I'll wait with this one until it's clear11:31
didrockssil2100: I guess you have enough work on the compiz front to not get bored :)11:31
* sil2100 sighs11:35
sil2100Sadly ;)11:35
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sil2100didrocks: stupid question, but where is the compiz-plugins-main packaging branch for precise available?11:54
sil2100didrocks: I don't see it in any of the ~compiz-team or ~ubuntu-desktop branches11:55
sil2100didrocks: lp:ubuntu/precise/compiz-plugins-main is the one I should look at?11:55
didrockssil2100: https://code.launchpad.net/~compiz11:56
didrockssee lp:~compiz/compcomm-plugins-main/ubuntu11:56
sil2100Ah, compcomm, jesus11:56
sil2100didrocks: brr, thanks11:56
didrocksyw :)11:57
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sil2100didrocks: ok, I prepared packages for compiz and compiz-plugins-main for the SRU, we're testing them a bit now13:14
sil2100didrocks: I also prepared some things for the unity SRU, but I'm still waiting for the decision on the Software Center intergration13:14
sil2100didrocks: also, Daniel pointed me in the morning to a fix of the last remaining regression that unity 6.0 introduced13:15
didrockssil2100: yeah, I saw that one! greta :)13:15
sil2100didrocks: what should we do with that one? It's a small fix, and only one - are we still doing a release with that one?13:15
didrockssil2100: well, this one is small, so no need to backport it alone13:15
sil2100didrocks: btw. sadly, some of the commits you pointed to in compiz trunk weren't SRUable after consultation with Daniel :( Since we came to the conclusion that some of them are not well tested and can have probable regressions13:16
sil2100As compiz is like a minefield13:17
didrockssil2100: yeah, I looked large when scanning the commit, juts wanted to point out that "one commit only SRUable" wasn't exact and more diving was necessary13:17
sil2100didrocks: true, well - it was a good thing, since some were indeed SRUable13:18
sil2100That's why I also did the compiz-plugins-main release13:18
sil2100(I mean, prepared for release ;p)13:18
didrocksyeah ;)13:19
sil2100Trevinho: did you get some info regarding the software center intergration issue?13:29
Trevinhosideffect: not yet13:30
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sil2100didrocks: what would this error mean, then? How should I proceed?13:36
didrockssil2100: well, first read the error :)13:36
didrocksit's telling that it won't look at library in other packages that doesn't ship shlibs13:37
sil2100didrocks: since /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libunity/libunity-protocol-private.so.0 exists on my system, but it can't find it13:37
sil2100Ah13:37
didrocksdo you have a DEBIAN/shlibs in the libunity-protocol-private package,13:37
sil2100Good question, need to check that13:37
sil2100didrocks: I see it provides an shlibs file13:40
sil2100didrocks: the contents are: "libunity-protocol-private 0 libunity-protocol-private0 (>= 5.92.0)"13:41
didrocksseems good to me13:42
didrocksdid you google around for the issue?13:42
* didrocks shakes fist at unity stacking being screwed13:42
didrocksand to sublimetext not having bamf matching! Trebinho! :p13:42
didrockstrevinho!13:42
popeyblimey, does everyone use sublimetext now...13:46
didrocksit's sublime! :)13:47
Trevinhodidrocks: mine works well :P (but just because i'm using the Webupd8 ppa version)13:51
didrocksyeah, I'm on edge!13:51
Trevinhodidrocks: need to check, but it' looks strange that if you set the exec to13:55
Trevinho--class foo and you set StartupWMClass=foo it doesn't work13:55
Trevinhodidrocks: i.e. doing /pat/to/sublime_text --class Firefox should recognize it as Firefox... (for example)13:55
didrocksTrevinho: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1096645/ I tried both exec13:56
didrockslet me try --class13:56
Trevinhodidrocks: dusing --name should be the same btw13:56
Trevinhodidrocks: that desktop file works to me13:58
didrocksTrevinho: ok, adding --class Firefox make the matching on sublimetext working when I click on it (not the cause otherwise)13:58
didrocksworking like… matching sublimetext13:58
didrocksif I run sublimetext from the CLI13:58
didrocks(as it's in my PATH)13:59
didrocksit's matching still another icon13:59
didrockssublimetext13:59
didrocksbut a different one13:59
Trevinhodidrocks: in order I've done: 1) added your .desktop file (updating the paths) to ~/.local/share/applications; 2) launched it with fullpath from CLI... And it works13:59
Trevinhodidrocks: which .desktop file is using? Can be possible that you've a clash?14:00
didrocksTrevinho: I have no desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications14:00
didrocksand no other sublimetext than the one in this rep14:00
didrocksbah, I can't drag and drop anymore the desktop file to the launcher14:01
didrocksnothing react :/14:01
didrocksok, removing a launcher and I can add it again14:02
Trevinhodidrocks: you said that when loading it from CLI it uses another icon... which one?14:04
Trevinhodidrocks: what you get by gdbus call -e -d org.ayatana.bamf -o /org/ayatana/bamf/matcher -m org.ayatana.bamf.matcher.RunningApplicationsDesktopFiles ?14:04
Trevinho(with subl opened)14:04
Trevinhodidrocks: ok, I reproduced your issue..14:06
didrocks\o/14:07
Trevinhodidrocks: it happens because it runs sublime, and so it's like we have matching troubles in that case where the exec doesn't match the class14:07
Trevinhodidrocks: if your exec was sublime_text it would have worked..14:07
Trevinhomhmhm14:07
didrocksTrevinho: ah, do you want me to try renaming?14:08
Trevinhodidrocks: ok... here we are..14:08
Trevinhodidrocks: if sublime is called from a symlink called "sublime" pointing to a binary called sublime_text, its wm_class will be sublime14:08
Trevinhoso... or you force the class name to be always the same14:09
didrocksTrevinho: interesting, is this a general thing? wm_class will match the symlink?14:09
Trevinhodidrocks: in your exec file you can do sublime --class "sublime_text"14:10
Trevinhodidrocks: just discovered... Need to check14:10
didrocksTrevinho: that's not right :)14:11
mhr3didrocks, Trevinho, wm_class is constructed from prg_name, which is in turn constructed from argv[0]14:11
didrocksworks when I click14:11
mhr3afaik14:11
didrocksbut not when launching frmo CLI14:11
didrocksrenaming the symlink works though14:12
didrockseven if the exec doesn't match anymore14:12
didrocksfunny funny funny :)14:12
didrocksTrevinho: at least, I have a good matching now, thanks! :)14:13
didrocksTrevinho: and you have a good bug :)14:13
Trevinhodidrocks: just tried event with gedit, changing the symlink will change the wm_class14:14
Trevinhomhr3: yes, I knew about that... but I thought that symlink were translated to the real path14:14
didrocksseems you have an interesting case :)14:14
Trevinhobut that it doesn't seem to happen14:14
Trevinhowell... I've a bug, but.... I don't tjink I can fix it... Until I don't check every ran program for its real argv[0]14:15
mhr3that would be pretty expensive14:15
mhr3i wonder if bamf would work better if it used startup notifications in some way14:16
mhr3but those are sent to the root window... so :/14:17
Trevinhomhr3: I have to add startup-notifications to bamf...14:17
Trevinhodidrocks: however even using a symlink when adding --class=sublime_text and startupWmclass=sublime_text works here... but I'm happy you at least got the matching to work :)14:18
didrocksTrevinho: that's weird indeed, but getting sublimetext matching is making me happy ;)14:19
Trevinhoat least it's a WIN ;)14:20
DebolazHmm… The dash seems a lot more responsive in vmware fusion than in virtualbox.14:38
didrockssil2100: hey, fancy some work on unity-2d? :)14:45
didrockssil2100: https://code.launchpad.net/~jm-leddy/unity-2d/lp873027/+merge/111452 seems it's already upstream, can you have a look that everything is good?14:45
MCR1Unity-2d has much better vertical scrolling for the Dash implemented, btw - this should be ported to Unity-3d as well :)14:47
sil2100didrocks: ACK, will check this one - oneiric you say?14:49
didrockssil2100: unfortunately, yeah14:49
Trevinhosil2100, didrocks sw center branches approved15:04
didrockssweet :)15:04
Trevinhosil2100, didrocks, I hope to get another SRU later to get the behavior back btw :P15:04
didrockswell, if it will work one day…15:05
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sil2100Trevinho: yaay!15:06
sil2100Trevinho: thanks ;) What made you approve those?15:06
Trevinhosil2100: I've talked with tremolux...15:07
Trevinhosil2100: it looks like it's the only way we can fix the issues for P15:07
tremoluxsil2100: right, this is the most straightforward (and smallest regression risk) way to fix a list of important high-target bugs in Precise15:10
tremoluxsil2100: we plan to restore the animation timing for Quantal, and I will work with the Unity team to SRU this back to Precise when it is done and stable15:10
sil2100tremolux, Trevinho: ACK, excellent, thanks guys15:14
tremoluxsil2100, Trevinho: any many thanks for caring about this btw!! small details do matter  :)15:14
tremoluxTrevinho, didrocks: hey, is there a planned timeframe for the SRU that will contain this fix? we'll want to coordinate the Software Center SRU as best we can15:15
didrockstremolux: I hope sil2100 can push the update tomorrow15:15
tremoluxdidrocks: ok, cool, so tentatively it looks like into precise-proposed starting tomorrow sometime15:16
didrocksyeah :)15:16
sil2100tremolux: yes, I would plan on releasing it tomorrow15:16
tremoluxdidrocks: very cool! thanks :D15:16
didrocksyw15:17
tremoluxthank you, sil2100! we should plan on the same then15:17
tremoluxyou guys rock, thanks again15:17
sil2100tremolux: thank _you_ ;)15:18
sil2100Trevinho: do you have one last moment to review https://code.launchpad.net/~andyrock/unity/fix-754565-5.0/+merge/115122 ;) ?15:19
jokerdinohey guys, i just wanted to know how things are going around bug #937334. i had submitted a merge proposal earlier yesterday and got a bit of feedback. is there anything else that i could do?15:26
ubot5Launchpad bug 937334 in unity "Unity shortcut overlay needs to include shortcut for video lens" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93733415:26
Trevinhosil2100: checking now15:30
sil2100Trevinho: big thanks!15:30
sil2100Trevinho: awesome, thanks again! Now we're green, just wait for merging and \o/15:34
sil2100didrocks: could you freeze unity/5.0 and compiz-core/0.9.7 once all merges are in :) ?15:35
sil2100didrocks: or a freeze is unnecessary here you think?15:35
sil2100(although if we release unity 5.14 then I would prefer 5.0 to be frozen15:36
sil2100)15:36
didrockssil2100: no freeze needed I guess15:37
didrocksas the rate of merge is low15:37
didrocksmaybe just mention it to the ML?15:37
sil2100didrocks: will do! :)15:39
sil2100didrocks: a quick question - to ensure a package can use gmock, do I have to add some dependencies for it?15:46
sil2100didrocks: since I see neither unity nor compiz have in debian/control google-mock, but still use gmock15:47
sil2100didrocks: I just see some CMakeLists.txt mentions15:49
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didrockssil2100: it's an optional dep15:53
* didrocks should really concentrate on code now, day without ping interruption :/15:54
didrockswe didn't include it before because it wasn't in main15:54
sil2100didrocks: thanks - won't disturb now ;) Good luck!15:54
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GRiDhey guys. on 12.04 .. my super key seems to have a bit of a delay on it, such that when i hit e.g. super-1 quickly, i end up with a number 1 in my foreground app. i have to hold the super slightly longer for it to catch. doesn't happen with alt or ctrl. is this intentional/configurable?17:58
Trevinhoseb128: here?18:14
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seb128Trevinho, here!18:41
Trevinhoseb128: I've seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/101021418:43
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1010214 in BAMF "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in g_pointer_bit_lock()" [Critical,New]18:43
Trevinhobschaefer: any idea how it is reproducible?18:44
* bschaefer looks18:44
Trevinhoit looks like a glib issue more than ours btw...18:44
seb128Trevinho, not you as well! ;-)18:45
seb128Trevinho, mhr3 is also blaming glib for his bugs...18:45
Trevinhoseb128: ehehe18:46
Trevinhoseb128: the fact is that it happens during a dispose that unrefs the objects via g_list_free_full...18:46
bschaefergeez that stacktrace is odd18:46
seb128Trevinho, joke aside it could be, feel free to bounce back if you think it's a glib issue, I usually try to get "whoever is closer from the code" to have a look so we don't skip over any obvious bug18:46
Trevinhoseb128: sure... I'd like to reproduce it first :)18:47
Trevinhoyou wrote that it happened a lot in some days...18:47
Trevinhothe reporter talks about the driver updates...18:47
seb128Trevinho, well, the issue is that errors.ubuntu.com is mostly statistics18:47
seb128Trevinho, so we know that it has an high frequency but that's about it :-(18:48
Trevinhoseb128: I've only free drivers here, I've never got notifications for new drivers :)18:48
seb128Trevinho, the system has been made very simple, no question, hit report and forget, the goal is to have users hit submit and not get annoyed18:48
bschaeferTrevinho, I can't reproduce it, as I don't have any drivers either!18:49
Trevinhoseb128: yes, it's important to have it18:49
bschaeferhmm I wonder if I should start to remove some haha18:49
Trevinhoseb128: i'm just wondering if that's connected with the drivers updater...18:49
seb128Trevinho, they have improvements plans which would let hackers to specify the infos they need and have the next users hitting the bug add those, but that's not implemented yet18:49
seb128Trevinho, it could be but I doubt it, the driver stuff just drop a .ko on disk which will be loaded at next reboot18:50
Trevinhoseb128: mhmh... isn't there any window to do that? Isn't just update manager?18:51
seb128Trevinho, you mean? the updates basically install the update but it shouldn't be loaded until reboot18:51
Trevinhoseb128: no I mean… the reporter wrote "After Notification of New Drivers Available, and upon Opening Install Drivers package , compiz crashed, was attempting to input password at the prompt."18:52
bschaeferTrevinho, I wonder if we could get a VM that would need to update its drivers18:52
TrevinhoSo... What has he opened actually?18:52
bschaeferTrevinho, system -> additional drivers18:52
Trevinho(ah, and he's on quantal... news about Precise?)18:52
bschaeferIm guessing18:52
bschaeferI just have no drivers on my system haha...18:53
Trevinhowell, isn't that window opened only on first install?18:53
bschaeferTrevinho, hmm well if there is an update to a driver shouldn't it open again?18:53
bschaeferwhich would explain why 45 reported it in a day...18:54
Trevinhothe standard package manager should handle that...18:54
bschaeferhmm18:54
bschaeferwell that will be hard to reproduce since you need a machine that has drivers that are out of date then new ones coming in to test...18:55
bschaeferif that window comes up then crash18:55
seb128Trevinho, not sure, often user comments don't make sense19:00
seb128Trevinho, it could have nothing to do with the issue19:00
Trevinhoseb128: ok.. let's stay tuned.. just let me know if this gets even more populars on e.u.c19:01
seb128Trevinho, it's quite easy to check for reports on http://errors.ubuntu.com just enter the binary you are interested in and select a timeframe in the combo19:08
mhr3Trevinho, what's most important about that stacktrace is its size19:08
Trevinhoseb128: yes, I'm already doing it... but if you notice it more often than me, just let me know :)19:08
seb128Trevinho, will do ;-)19:09
mhr3Trevinho, looks like the view has itself as a cached child19:22
mhr3guess that's not good :)19:22
Trevinhomhr3: mhmhm no at all :)19:23
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Trevinho|dinnerI'll check that later then... :o19:23
Trevinho|dinnerbut I'm wondering how is possible that an application sets itself as children..19:24
Trevinho|dinnermhr3: which line of the stacktrace is showing it?19:24
mhr3Trevinho|dinner, search for view_dispose and use "highlight all"19:25
mhr3you'll notice :)19:25
unixpro1970 I have a barebones ubuntu v11.10 server text only.  I managed to install unity2d and I now have graphics.  However, many of the unity applications are missing such as terminal, etc.  What packages do I need to install all of unity?19:35
unixpro1970hello?19:37
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