| thauriswulfa | How do I open webdisk in xubuntu? Tried thunar but nothing happens after authentication. | 08:36 |
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| thauriswulfa | sorry posted in wrong channel | 08:38 |
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| knome | astraljava, ? | 20:38 |
| knome | hey scott-work :) | 20:43 |
| pleia2 | everyone stopped talking in here because you started looking for a doc lead | 20:43 |
| knome | i didn't say "doc lead"... :) | 20:43 |
| pleia2 | uh huh | 20:43 |
| pleia2 | :) | 20:43 |
| knome | and yes, i agree, we really should get it forward | 20:43 |
| knome | my thoughts are "just start" | 20:44 |
| knome | just start with writing stuff to wiki now, with the people who are willing to write | 20:44 |
| pleia2 | sounds good | 20:44 |
| knome | we can worry about converting to docbook later | 20:44 |
| pleia2 | once it's on the wiki we can then work on getting it somewhere more formal | 20:44 |
| knome | yes. | 20:44 |
| pleia2 | yeah, that | 20:44 |
| knome | if we don't have content, it doesn't matter if we had the best docbook experts ready to work 24/7 | 20:45 |
| * pleia2 nods | 20:45 | |
| knome | do you have any ideas on how to structure stuff? | 20:45 |
| knome | well, to be honest, the ubuntu wiki is just way too slow | 20:45 |
| knome | i'd like it to work faster, and i'd really like to use it, but it's REALLY slow. | 20:45 |
| pleia2 | yeah, we use google docs for the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter (wiki is just our publishing place) | 20:46 |
| knome | i'm even wondering if somebody (*cough* pleia2 *cough*) would be willing to set up a temp wiki | 20:46 |
| knome | or something | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | well, I did that for ubuntu women | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | can do for this too | 20:46 |
| knome | i think etherpad would be wonderful... as long as we can make sure the data is secured | 20:46 |
| knome | but a wiki works too, really | 20:46 |
| knome | generally, avoiding (file-)locks would be awesome | 20:47 |
| pleia2 | I'm not so experienced with configuring etherpad, and apparently a poorly configured one is a disaster :) | 20:47 |
| knome | i suppose the lite version isn't quite stable yet, and the old version is just really a memory hog | 20:47 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 20:47 |
| knome | is there any wiki that would allow multiple editors per-time? | 20:48 |
| pleia2 | I don't think so | 20:48 |
| knome | does for example, mediawiki support multiple editors, if you edit just a part of the page? | 20:48 |
| pleia2 | not that I'm aware of | 20:49 |
| knome | (i'm not suggesting to use mediawiki, but i'm thinking if *anybody* is doing that, even in some weird way) | 20:49 |
| knome | ok, so pretty much any wiki would go | 20:49 |
| pleia2 | ubuntu wiki uses moin, I've set it up before, so I'm inclined to go that way | 20:50 |
| Unit193 | Bleh, moin... | 20:50 |
| knome | pleia2, dokuwiki isn't bad, and it's easy to set up | 20:50 |
| pleia2 | Unit193: you're not even on the doc team! | 20:51 |
| knome | Unit193, yeah, shut up | 20:51 |
| knome | :< | 20:51 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: \o/ | 20:51 |
| Unit193 | :D | 20:51 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 20:51 |
| knome | wait, the long testcase is reviewed now? | 20:52 |
| pleia2 | I think so | 20:53 |
| knome | yay | 20:53 |
| pleia2 | we made lots of changes | 20:53 |
| pleia2 | we == astraljava | 20:53 |
| knome | hehe, yeah | 20:53 |
| knome | under my guidance, naturally | 20:53 |
| knome | :P | 20:53 |
| pleia2 | naturally | 20:53 |
| knome | well, yeah, most of it came from our sprint | 20:53 |
| knome | from either one of us | 20:54 |
| knome | even if astraljava went to zombie mode | 20:54 |
| knome | "wait, what did i/you say in the last 30 mins?" | 20:54 |
| pleia2 | so do we actually know where on launchpad our docs live? | 20:57 |
| knome | no. | 20:57 |
| pleia2 | https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-doc is old | 20:57 |
| knome | so, is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Long the latest "long" version now? | 20:57 |
| knome | and anything under Testing/TestingInfo can be deleted? | 20:58 |
| knome | well, the short page is, but are we ready to dump the long version too? | 20:58 |
| pleia2 | I think, yes to all | 21:01 |
| knome | great! | 21:02 |
| knome | i deleted the TestingInfo pages with meaningful messages. | 21:02 |
| knome | what are the "HardwareProfile" pages? | 21:02 |
| knome | oh, that's some kind of guide how to create one? | 21:03 |
| knome | is the one under "short" the same as directly under "testing" ? | 21:04 |
| knome | where is hobgoblin when you need him | 21:04 |
| pleia2 | https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs | 21:10 |
| pleia2 | and it's in docbook | 21:10 |
| knome | ok. | 21:11 |
| pleia2 | http://dagobah.princessleia.com/Xubuntu | 21:12 |
| pleia2 | so what we need is someone who can coordinate getting what we have now out of xubuntu-docs in docbook and on that wiki for people to edit, and then back into the package | 21:12 |
| pleia2 | or someone who has a better idea than doing any of this at all with a wiki :) | 21:13 |
| knome | copy-paste? | 21:14 |
| pleia2 | maybe one of the folks who volunteered to help with documentation can do this | 21:14 |
| knome | well | 21:14 |
| knome | the thing is | 21:14 |
| knome | i'm not sure if we should have the exact same structure as we had before | 21:14 |
| pleia2 | could copy/paste from the .html output, tediously | 21:14 |
| knome | or if we need to cover all the same stuff now | 21:14 |
| knome | or if something is lacking | 21:14 |
| pleia2 | yeah, but I think we should let it evolve from what we have now | 21:14 |
| knome | probably, but how to track/decide what do drop? | 21:14 |
| knome | just lots of mail to -devel | 21:15 |
| knome | "i'd like to drop this" | 21:15 |
| pleia2 | and maybe some meetings | 21:15 |
| knome | "i think we shouldn't keep this" | 21:15 |
| knome | we could probably get a new mailing list up relatively easily | 21:15 |
| knome | US did that a while ago | 21:15 |
| knome | if we don't want to flood the -devel list, i mean | 21:15 |
| pleia2 | I hate new mailing lists :) | 21:15 |
| knome | me too. | 21:15 |
| knome | but i'm not sure if i like flooding -devel either | 21:16 |
| pleia2 | and I don't think it'll be years of high traffic, this is a pretty major overhaul | 21:16 |
| knome | yes. | 21:16 |
| pleia2 | I actually wouldn't mind seeing more traffic on the list | 21:16 |
| pleia2 | QA stuff too | 21:16 |
| knome | yeah. | 21:17 |
| knome | well, maybe that's fine then. | 21:17 |
| pleia2 | my lunch break is wrapping up, we can talk at meeting in the morning | 21:18 |
| pleia2 | (then later, airplane!) | 21:19 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 21:19 |
| knome | see you, and have fun meanwhile | 21:19 |
| knome | i'll be away from thu to sun | 21:19 |
| knome | no, make that fri-sun | 21:19 |
| knome | but i'll be around at the meeting tomorrow, for sure | 21:19 |
| pleia2 | I'll have internet while at the conference thu-saturday, but who knows how much I'll be around | 21:20 |
| knome | :) | 21:20 |
| knome | i don't have internet when i'm off | 21:20 |
| knome | so, i'll really be off fri-sun :D | 21:20 |
| pleia2 | biggest thing is making sure we can get the alpha3 out hte door | 21:20 |
| knome | ye | 21:20 |
| knome | s | 21:20 |
| knome | btw... | 21:20 |
| knome | we probably want to take part in 12.04.1 ? | 21:20 |
| pleia2 | oh yeah, probably | 21:20 |
| knome | i'll sign that off then. | 21:20 |
| pleia2 | I don't know how though :) | 21:21 |
| knome | i know | 21:21 |
| knome | done | 21:21 |
| pleia2 | it's what we told people to wait for if they were doing 10.04 > 12.04 upgrades | 21:21 |
| pleia2 | anyway, workies now | 21:21 |
| knome | see you! | 21:21 |
| Unit193 | Adios! | 21:21 |
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