[08:36] How do I open webdisk in xubuntu? Tried thunar but nothing happens after authentication. [08:38] sorry posted in wrong channel === hobgoblin is now known as elfy === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:38] astraljava, ? [20:43] hey scott-work :) [20:43] everyone stopped talking in here because you started looking for a doc lead [20:43] i didn't say "doc lead"... :) [20:43] uh huh [20:43] :) [20:43] and yes, i agree, we really should get it forward [20:44] my thoughts are "just start" [20:44] just start with writing stuff to wiki now, with the people who are willing to write [20:44] sounds good [20:44] we can worry about converting to docbook later [20:44] once it's on the wiki we can then work on getting it somewhere more formal [20:44] yes. [20:44] yeah, that [20:45] if we don't have content, it doesn't matter if we had the best docbook experts ready to work 24/7 [20:45] * pleia2 nods [20:45] do you have any ideas on how to structure stuff? [20:45] well, to be honest, the ubuntu wiki is just way too slow [20:45] i'd like it to work faster, and i'd really like to use it, but it's REALLY slow. [20:46] yeah, we use google docs for the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter (wiki is just our publishing place) [20:46] i'm even wondering if somebody (*cough* pleia2 *cough*) would be willing to set up a temp wiki [20:46] or something [20:46] well, I did that for ubuntu women [20:46] can do for this too [20:46] i think etherpad would be wonderful... as long as we can make sure the data is secured [20:46] but a wiki works too, really [20:47] generally, avoiding (file-)locks would be awesome [20:47] I'm not so experienced with configuring etherpad, and apparently a poorly configured one is a disaster :) [20:47] i suppose the lite version isn't quite stable yet, and the old version is just really a memory hog [20:47] yeah [20:48] is there any wiki that would allow multiple editors per-time? [20:48] I don't think so [20:48] does for example, mediawiki support multiple editors, if you edit just a part of the page? [20:49] not that I'm aware of [20:49] (i'm not suggesting to use mediawiki, but i'm thinking if *anybody* is doing that, even in some weird way) [20:49] ok, so pretty much any wiki would go [20:50] ubuntu wiki uses moin, I've set it up before, so I'm inclined to go that way [20:50] Bleh, moin... [20:50] pleia2, dokuwiki isn't bad, and it's easy to set up [20:51] Unit193: you're not even on the doc team! [20:51] Unit193, yeah, shut up [20:51] :< [20:51] pleia2: \o/ [20:51] :D [20:51] hehe [20:52] wait, the long testcase is reviewed now? [20:53] I think so [20:53] yay [20:53] we made lots of changes [20:53] we == astraljava [20:53] hehe, yeah [20:53] under my guidance, naturally [20:53] :P [20:53] naturally [20:53] well, yeah, most of it came from our sprint [20:54] from either one of us [20:54] even if astraljava went to zombie mode [20:54] "wait, what did i/you say in the last 30 mins?" [20:57] so do we actually know where on launchpad our docs live? [20:57] no. [20:57] https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-doc is old [20:57] so, is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Long the latest "long" version now? [20:58] and anything under Testing/TestingInfo can be deleted? [20:58] well, the short page is, but are we ready to dump the long version too? [21:01] I think, yes to all [21:02] great! [21:02] i deleted the TestingInfo pages with meaningful messages. [21:02] what are the "HardwareProfile" pages? [21:03] oh, that's some kind of guide how to create one? [21:04] is the one under "short" the same as directly under "testing" ? [21:04] where is hobgoblin when you need him [21:10] https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs [21:10] and it's in docbook [21:11] ok. [21:12] http://dagobah.princessleia.com/Xubuntu [21:12] so what we need is someone who can coordinate getting what we have now out of xubuntu-docs in docbook and on that wiki for people to edit, and then back into the package [21:13] or someone who has a better idea than doing any of this at all with a wiki :) [21:14] copy-paste? [21:14] maybe one of the folks who volunteered to help with documentation can do this [21:14] well [21:14] the thing is [21:14] i'm not sure if we should have the exact same structure as we had before [21:14] could copy/paste from the .html output, tediously [21:14] or if we need to cover all the same stuff now [21:14] or if something is lacking [21:14] yeah, but I think we should let it evolve from what we have now [21:14] probably, but how to track/decide what do drop? [21:15] just lots of mail to -devel [21:15] "i'd like to drop this" [21:15] and maybe some meetings [21:15] "i think we shouldn't keep this" [21:15] we could probably get a new mailing list up relatively easily [21:15] US did that a while ago [21:15] if we don't want to flood the -devel list, i mean [21:15] I hate new mailing lists :) [21:15] me too. [21:16] but i'm not sure if i like flooding -devel either [21:16] and I don't think it'll be years of high traffic, this is a pretty major overhaul [21:16] yes. [21:16] I actually wouldn't mind seeing more traffic on the list [21:16] QA stuff too [21:17] yeah. [21:17] well, maybe that's fine then. [21:18] my lunch break is wrapping up, we can talk at meeting in the morning [21:19] (then later, airplane!) [21:19] mm-hmm [21:19] see you, and have fun meanwhile [21:19] i'll be away from thu to sun [21:19] no, make that fri-sun [21:19] but i'll be around at the meeting tomorrow, for sure [21:20] I'll have internet while at the conference thu-saturday, but who knows how much I'll be around [21:20] :) [21:20] i don't have internet when i'm off [21:20] so, i'll really be off fri-sun :D [21:20] biggest thing is making sure we can get the alpha3 out hte door [21:20] ye [21:20] s [21:20] btw... [21:20] we probably want to take part in 12.04.1 ? [21:20] oh yeah, probably [21:20] i'll sign that off then. [21:21] I don't know how though :) [21:21] i know [21:21] done [21:21] it's what we told people to wait for if they were doing 10.04 > 12.04 upgrades [21:21] anyway, workies now [21:21] see you! [21:21] Adios!