[09:37] <bencer> btw, zentyal is hiring again: http://www.zentyal.com/positions/qa-engineer/
[14:23] <stgraber> highvoltage: wondering what we'll be talking about at today's hangout considering how little progress we've made so far...
[14:24] <highvoltage> oh shit
[14:25] <highvoltage> I thought that was next week for some reason
[14:25] <ogra_> just get a hammock, i heard someone is well trained using the ;)
[14:25] <ogra_> *them
[14:25] <highvoltage> stgraber:
[14:25] <highvoltage> Let's talk about Tablets
[14:25] <highvoltage> Wed, July 25, 1:00 PM	
[14:25] <ogra_> just film him swinging back and forth nicely :)
[14:25] <highvoltage> it is July the 18th today right?
[14:25] <ogra_> yes
[14:26] <stgraber> highvoltage: oh, good, then ;) for some reason I had it noted with the wrong date apparently
[14:26] <highvoltage> stgraber: even if we don't have much, it should still be ok. we could just talk about our intentions and get some Q&A, that could easily fill around 30-60 minutes
[14:27] <highvoltage> ogra_: hehe, I just don't have anywhere to hang one!
[14:29] <carli2> hi
[14:29] <highvoltage> hi carli2
[14:30] <carli2> does edubuntu have sth like a regulation gui for a techer-student infrastructure?
[14:30] <carli2> adding classes with users,
[14:30] <carli2> blocking internet
[14:30] <carli2> blocking screen
[14:30] <carli2> blocking programs
[14:31] <highvoltage> there's a bunch of different tools that allow you to do some of those partially, like edubuntu menu editor and epoptes
[14:31] <highvoltage> blocking internet is something you'd have to set up by yourself at this stage
[14:32] <carli2> I wrote sth that has some of these features
[14:32] <carli2> but it's hard to maintain for new ubuntu releases
[14:32] <highvoltage> carli2: link?
[14:32] <carli2> highvoltage: no link there. it's just an installation of a classroom
[14:33] <highvoltage> ah
[14:33] <carli2> but I versioned it
[14:33] <carli2> https://bitbucket.org/carli/lehrerverwaltung
[14:34] <highvoltage> it wants me to sign up to see that
[14:34] <carli2> it's a login window for client side with a makefile that creates an install script for a random machine you want to be a client
[14:34] <carli2> oh
[14:35] <carli2> wait, i'll scan it for clear text passwords
[14:35] <carli2> okay, should be open now
[14:36] <carli2> yep. and the server software is a control GUI that enables to kill users processes, watch over programs, do backups
[14:36] <carli2> optimized for easy use
[14:36] <carli2> because other ppl than me have to use it
[14:37] <carli2> the question is: can i migrate to edubuntu without losing features or flexibility that i had before (or better: improve)
[14:38] <highvoltage> carli2: I don't know yet how lehrerverwaltung works so I have no way of telling
[14:39] <highvoltage> carli2: gnome 2 is no longer available and the closest thing to that is gnome fallback, gconf is mostly moving to gsettings/dconf so some things like gnome nanny doesn't work at all anymore
[14:39] <carli2> highvoltage: basically gives you full control over client's running programs
[14:39] <highvoltage> (not that it used to work that well anyway)
[14:39] <highvoltage> carli2: I suggest you test it in a VM or something (that's the best I could advise you on for now)
[14:39] <carli2> highvoltage: the gnome2 things are just designs (own logos etc)
[14:51] <carli2> which technique does edubuntu use to synchronize logins and files?
[15:05] <highvoltage> carli2: in current releases it's up to the administrator to set something up, for 12.10 we're aiming to set up a domain using samba4
[15:06] <carli2> highvoltage: i mean which authentication method and how are the home directories mounted on the client machines...
[15:09] <highvoltage> carli2: ah, for thin clients it uses ssh / sshfs
[15:10] <carli2> highvoltage: my solution is flexible and allows either ssh or xrdp
[15:10] <carli2> highvoltage: but I dont have thick clients
[15:11] <highvoltage> ok
[15:12] <highvoltage> carli2: sounds like your work has some overlap with epoptes. the author of that (alkisg) is currently on holiday but I think he'll be back here next week
[15:13] <highvoltage> carli2: might be a good idea to talk to him too
[15:13] <highvoltage> (epoptes website is on http://www.epoptes.org/)
[15:13] <carli2> that looks good
[17:55] <stgraber> alkisg, highvoltage: Uploaded edubuntu-netboot to the archive, once that lands, I'll do an LTSP upload to remove it from there, then merging should be quite a bit easier.
[17:57]  * stgraber gets back to doing "real" work :)
[17:58] <highvoltage> stgraber: nice
[17:58] <highvoltage> alkisg: are you back?
[18:12] <alkisg> stgraber: edubuntu-netboot? Is that an "extracted" package which will also help in syncing LTSP with debian a bit more?
[18:13] <alkisg> highvoltage: hey, yup, back for a bit :)
[18:13] <highvoltage> alkisg: ooh, nice
[18:13] <stgraber> alkisg: yeah, it's a separate source package
[18:13] <alkisg> Cool, do you have a link handy?
[18:13] <alkisg> (bzr )
[18:13] <highvoltage> alkisg: we finally got the tablets, will give you the tracking no as soon as its shipped
[18:14] <alkisg> Nice!!! Thanks highvoltage :)
[18:14] <alkisg> When I receive it I'll ask for any installation instructions we may have
[18:20] <highvoltage> yes, hopefully we'll have some by then :)
[18:21] <highvoltage> (currently we don't have anything installable, but that will hopefully change this week still)