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balloonsaloha14:10
balloons#startmeeting ubuntu QA14:10
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balloonswho all is about?14:12
phillwo/14:12
balloonsphillw,  I think this will be short and sweet14:12
phillwyup :)14:12
balloons[TOPIC] Ubuntu Updates14:12
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balloonsNext week we'll have the alpha 3 milestone testing. Should be a good week, and the images are in a good state going in to the week. I, knock on wood, don't see us needing a ton of respins14:13
balloonsBecause we've reached the point in the cycle where features are landing (yay!), you can expect more testing of applications coming soon. Unity testing will be happening again this cycle among other things14:14
balloonsI also was talking with the u+1 team and the folks running the dev version of ubuntu as there daily machine about expanding the package tracker to help their workflow with triaging problems, bug reports, and watching critical packages14:17
balloonsThe basic idea was to hand select some packages, and add some basic smoke testing for them. We'd monitor the versions as they update in the archive and we can keep a status on when things break and what bugs where found, etc14:18
balloonsI hope to show an example and get more feedback soon14:18
balloonsthat's it from me14:18
balloonsquestions?14:18
phillwnope14:18
balloonsalright14:18
balloons[TOPIC] Ubuntu Flavors14:19
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balloonsso phillw, updates from lubuntu?14:19
phillwbug 1007394 is still an issue14:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1007394 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Quantal daily fails to complete installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100739414:19
phillwcurrently awaiting one of the ppc testers to try something for the devs.14:19
phillwlack of firefox in ppc has been fixed.14:20
phillwnothing else to report, testing is going well on the whole.14:20
balloonsyay!14:24
balloonsbrowsing on ff is restorede14:24
balloonsdid you see the plant article phillw on ppc?14:24
phillwno, do you have a link?14:24
balloonshttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/benmcollins13/ubuntu/~3/-IS64CHats0/community-conundrum-powerpc.html14:25
phillwthanks14:25
balloonsnp.. not sure if you know who Ben is or not14:26
balloonsregardless, his lament is on target14:26
phillwwell, provided their remains a kernel available, lubuntu are pretty committed to have a ppc release.14:27
phillw*there*14:27
balloonsyep, it's a good thing14:28
balloonsok, any other flavors about willing to share an update?14:28
phillwseems like we're the last hope for them.14:28
astraljavaballoons: Not really, I've been really badly out of the loop recently... Sorry.14:29
balloonsastraljava, that's ok -- how's alpha 3 looking for you?14:30
balloonsI know it's hard to believe it's coming already14:30
balloonsalright, so let's finish up14:36
balloons[TOPIC] Other topics14:36
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balloonsanything else to discuss anyone?14:36
astraljavaWe're supposedly having that discussion today, but I really don't know how Xubuntu is at the moment.14:39
* astraljava frowns14:39
phillwballoons: I replied to the plant article with a request for testers :)14:39
balloonsphillw, hopefully it helps ppc users, and lubunutu14:40
balloonsastraljava, :-( sorry to hear. I'm sure it will get sorted out14:41
balloonsWell, I think that wraps everything up14:41
balloonsthanks for attending!14:41
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phillwthanks for chairing balloons14:41
* stgraber waves15:00
infinityo/15:00
evhi15:00
barryo/15:00
ogra_moo15:01
cjwatsonhi.  doko and xnox are on holiday, slangasek is at the UEFI plugfest; anyone else I've forgotten who's away?15:01
ogra_raise your hand if you are :)15:01
MrChrisDruif=)15:01
MrChrisDruifo/15:01
jodho/15:01
cjwatsonhttp://www.tomscott.com/cliff/15:02
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cjwatson#startmeeting15:02
meetingologyMeeting started Wed Jul 18 15:02:51 2012 UTC.  The chair is cjwatson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:02
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ogra_is that nafallo ?15:02
cjwatsondunno :)15:03
cjwatson#topic lightning round15:03
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ogra_:)15:03
cjwatson$ echo $(shuf -e barry bdmurray cjwatson ev infinity jodh ogra stgraber)15:03
cjwatsonstgraber cjwatson ogra barry jodh bdmurray ev infinity15:03
stgraberI win!15:03
* infinity naps.15:03
stgraber- Containers15:03
stgraber - Discussed implementation of set_config_item and clear_config_item in the LXC API.15:03
cjwatsonsorry if I forgot anyone, directory is down for me which of course means I have no idea who's on this team :-P15:03
stgraber - Update python binding for these two, waiting for get_keys() to then work on the network part of the python module.15:03
stgraber- Networking15:03
stgraber - Extended IPv6 testing to include basic NetworkManager testing.15:03
stgraber - Discovered NetworkManager doesn't support veth devices and so wouldn't run in a container. Wrote a patch, submitted to cyphermox for inclusion.15:03
stgraber- Installer15:03
stgraber - Tested open-iscsi, updated partman-iscsi to work with the new open-iscsi.15:03
stgraber- 12.04.115:03
stgraber - 12.04.1 team meeting and minutes15:03
stgraber - Went through all the targeted/milestoned bugs for 12.04.1, assigned a bunch to ~canonical-foundations, updated the status for some others.15:03
stgraber - Verified a bunch of SRUs.15:03
stgraber - Uploaded new ubiquity to precise-proposed.15:04
stgraber - Updated sru-report to properly deal with verification-done-$release15:04
stgraber- Other15:04
stgraber - Reviewed change to re-introduce slapd-smbk5pwd (built from openldap) as heimdal-dev is already a build-dep and that package is important for Zentyal.15:04
stgraber - Some queuebot work, trying to make the new version more stable (currently running in production) and ready for the new features discussed at UDS15:04
stgraber - Some ARB app review, the app showdown made the ARB New queue reach 140 packages... Still 50 to review...15:04
stgraber- TODO this week15:04
stgraber - Finish reviewing/triaging ppp and libnl-3 bugs, then start looking at SRUs for the network packages.15:04
stgraber - Go through the pending-sru and help for these that are stuck on verification-needed15:04
stgraber(DONE)15:04
cjwatsonHoliday on Tuesday.15:04
cjwatsonLaunchpad and archive administration:15:04
cjwatson * Fixed showing failed asynchronous copies in the PPA UI (bug 812869), so it should be possible to make PPA copies asynchronous soon.15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 812869 in Launchpad itself "Failed PackageCopyJobs should show up on the PPA page somehow" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81286915:04
cjwatson * Fixed a couple of bugs in PackageDiff privacy (bug 1023986, bug 1025515).15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023986 in Launchpad itself ""Available diffs" are not accessible when publishing private packages via copyPackage() " [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102398615:04
cjwatson * Experimental freeze to battle-test new queue API client.  Failed with a timeout after a couple of days, so we can work on that and try again later.15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1025515 in Launchpad itself "LP diffs are being linked at http://lplibrarian-private-download.internal:8000" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102551515:04
cjwatson * Posted branch to remove duplicates from ArchivePermission (bug 1025441).15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1025441 in Launchpad itself "Please clean up the duplicates from archivepermission" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102544115:04
cjwatson * Adjusted sru-report to use a separate launchpadlib cache so that it doesn't break so often.15:04
cjwatson * Some progress on arranging for per-pocket queue admin permissions, but still incomplete and may need a bit more database schema work.15:04
cjwatsonInstaller:15:04
cjwatson * Fixed bug 1023036, which caused intermittent failures in automatic tests (and took ages to reproduce).15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023036 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "Error on /usr/share/ubiquity/plugininstall.py", line 1687, affecting desktop images (preseeded install)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102303615:05
cjwatson * Fixed a couple of encrypted swap handling bugs (bug 1024343, bug 989279).15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1024343 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Quantal desktop encrypted home unable to install due to ubi-usersetup failing with exit code 1" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102434315:05
cjwatsonOther:15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 989279 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Ubiquity fails to create encrypted home directory when no swap if configured" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98927915:05
cjwatson * Various rebuilds for new imagemagick ABI.15:05
cjwatson * SRU for bug 970638 in psmisc.15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 970638 in psmisc (Ubuntu Precise) "killall can't kill processes with names >15 bytes long (Ubuntu 12.04)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97063815:05
cjwatson * Made various things pass pep8(1).15:05
cjwatson..15:05
ogra_done:15:05
ogra_* omap4 desktop image fixes (flash-kernel, installer etc)15:05
ogra_* ac100 desktop image fixes (ac100-tarball-installer, flash-kernel etc)15:05
ogra_* research why server preinstalled didnt build (thanks to slangasek for helping)15:05
ogra_* package new nvidia-tegra driver15:05
ogra_* test new tegra kernel15:05
ogra_* some work on foundations-q-hwpack-integration15:05
ogra_* flash-kernel SRUs15:05
ogra_todo:15:05
ogra_* more work on foundations-q-hwpack-integration15:05
ogra_* prepare for QA sprint15:05
ogra_* switch on server alternate builds for omap415:05
ogra_* research netinst omap4 breakage15:05
ogra_..15:05
barryshort week due to holiday; continued working on the xapian py3 port using cython, hit some roadblocks so progress has slowed; worked on the py27 for lucid ppa, trying to fix the ctypes crash so the lp folks can start to use it; patch piloted: lengthy review of upmgr branch, investigated and eventually sync'd from unstable, py32.  done.15:05
jodh* misc: Holiday last week.15:06
jodh* boot/upstart: Stateful re-exec progress continues:15:06
jodh  - Created D-Bus branch with new public API to recreate a D-Bus15:06
jodh    connection from a file descriptor (required for stateful re-exec):15:06
jodh    lp:~jamesodhunt/dbus/create-connection-from-fd15:06
jodh    Needs testing (once Upstart catches up) and ideally a way to15:06
jodh    query a connections address to make usage easier.15:06
jodh  - Currently working on the JSON-encoding of blocked objects for Upstart.15:06
jodh15:06
infinityTetris?15:06
jodhbraille15:06
jodhcan't you feel it?15:07
infinity*groan*15:07
bdmurraywrote a bug pattern for bug 102305515:07
bdmurrayuploaded a rebuilt ubuntu-release-upgrader to fix bug 102305515:07
bdmurrayuploaded of kerneloops to quantal turning it on15:07
bdmurrayapport upload to precise-proposed to collect /etc/default/grub - bug 100663315:07
barryowww15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023055 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "do-release-upgrade crashed with ImportError in /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/check-new-release: No module named DistUpgrade.DistUpgradeVersion" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102305515:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1006633 in apport (Ubuntu Precise) "should collect /etc/default/grub from package install failures due to update-grub failing" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100663315:07
bdmurraymodified search-recent-package-bugs-for-spikes to use urllib and work for any team15:07
bdmurrayadded search-recent-package-bugs-for-spikes to ubuntu-reports15:07
bdmurrayarsenal modification to collect-bug-data to filter by days-in-importance15:07
bdmurraysetup of reopened, recent-triaged, recent-confirmed and recently set to high or critical bug tasks reports on cranberry using arsenal15:07
cjwatsonbarry: any roadblocks I can assist with beyond the conversation we had the other day?15:07
bdmurraymodified lpltk to deal with bug tasks that don't have date_ for a status15:07
bdmurraymodified lpltk to be able to filter on the date the importance of a bug was set15:07
bdmurraymodified sru-report to sort by days package has been out15:07
bdmurraysru-report: make bugs golden colored if they have comments since being uploaded15:07
bdmurrayreported launchpad bug 1023592 regarding missing date_ transition data15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023592 in Launchpad itself "opening a new with a status of In Progess does not set date_in_progress" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102359215:08
bdmurraydone15:08
barrycjwatson: perhaps we can chat after this meeting15:08
cjwatsonbdmurray: recent sru-report changes are pretty handy, thanks15:08
cjwatsonbarry: sure15:08
ev- Short week; holiday on Monday.15:08
ev- Implemented the recoverable errors API and Martin uploaded it to Quantal.15:08
ev  Just need to adequately document it now and open up daisy.ubuntu.com to15:08
ev  receive these reports.15:08
ev- Sat down with Matthew and walked through the http://errors.ubuntu.com UI,15:08
ev  identifying some design problems.15:08
ev  - We now show 6 months worth of data on the average errors per day graph.15:08
ev    The graph itself now lets you zoom in on a particular area and uses the15:08
ev    secondary color scheme design has been working on.15:08
ev  - The erroneous '(not' entries are no longer added to the Last Seen field (I15:08
ev    still need to clear the existing ones).15:08
ev  - The navigation now shares the site navigation from qa.ubuntu.com. I need15:08
ev    to coordinate getting Errors linked to from there as well.15:08
ev  - I've written code to put individual lines for each Ubuntu release on the15:08
ev    average errors per day graph. I have a pending RT for deploying this.15:08
ev  - Per Seb's request, we can now display just Ubuntu sources for the Last15:08
ev    Seen column on the front page. I'm putting together an RT for deploying15:08
ev    this change.15:08
ev  - The individual problem pages have been reworked with clearer titles15:08
ev    and formatting. There's now a graph at the top of the page showing the15:08
ev    frequency over time this issue has been affecting Ubuntu.15:08
ev  - The individual instance pages now use the expanders from Launchpad to15:08
ev    autohide long fields, very much matching the Apport UI. The stack trace is15:09
ev    still shown by default though.15:09
ev- Started implementing the rest of the compiz changes for error reports from15:09
ev  application hangs. I've also asked the compiz guys to review the proposed15:09
ev  UI, but haven't heard anything back yet.15:09
ev- Testing what I hope are the final round of USB disks for the shop.15:09
ev(done)15:09
jodhev: so.. Max is back on form eh? :)15:09
infinity* DebConf (last week)15:09
infinity - Attended lots of talks, had lots of hallway conversations, etc15:09
infinity - Worked on a plan for saner (e)glibc maintenance in Debian/Ubuntu15:09
infinity* Merges, merges, merges15:09
infinity - A reminder/tip for those of us who are DDs: if we're carrying an15:09
infinity   Ubuntu delta for RC bugs, NMU them into Debian, save yourself some15:09
infinity   pain, and if we're carrying non-RC deltas on orphaned packages, do15:09
infinity   a QA upload, and stop merging the same one-line fix every two weeks15:09
infinity* Rebootstrapped GHC and gnat-4.6 on armel, and rebuilt a mess of15:09
infinity  stuff to reduce the FTBFS list for armel15:09
infinity* Fixed firefox and thunderbird compile options on armel and armhf15:09
infinity* Rebootstrapped sbcl on powerpc15:09
infinity* Lots of SRU work, including a bunch of kernel SRUS15:10
infinity* Upcoming: Really working on britney2 this week, no, honest!15:10
infinity⡇⠼⠧⠳⠛⠗ ← Looks like Tetris to me.15:10
infinityGuess that needs some spaces.15:10
infinity⡇ ⠼ ⠧ ⠳ ⠛ ⠗15:10
evjodh: yup :)15:10
evwell, for the moment15:11
cjwatsonah, that's everyone, great15:11
cjwatson#topic bugs15:11
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cjwatsonstgraber said he wanted to talk about .1 bits15:11
stgrabercjwatson: "import random; team = [person.name for person in lp.people['canonical-foundations'].participants]; random.shuffle(team); print(team)" (sadly accessing the IRC nicks seems a bit broken in the API...)15:12
stgraberyep, I have a pretty long list of foundation related bugs that are targeted for 12.04.115:12
stgraberFull bug list can be found at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=4992615:12
stgraberI did a quick pass on things that are either "maintained" by the team or are of interest to the team, the list is pretty long.15:12
stgraberI excluded any bug that's "fix commited" (in -proposed) or "in progress" (because it's waiting in the queue):15:12
stgraberStorage related: bug 969384, bug 978012, bug 942106, bug 1012946, bug 957494, bug 968074, bug 1002357, bug 1017407, bug 1022915, bug 100997315:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 969384 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "mdadm --detail --scan segfaults during update-initramfs" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96938415:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 978012 in e2fsprogs (Ubuntu Precise) "Please SRU micro bug fix release of e2fsprogs 1.42.4-3ubuntu1 (main) from Quantal (main)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97801215:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 942106 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "software raid doesn't assemble before mount on boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94210615:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1012946 in parted (Ubuntu Precise) "dm-part-sync.patch breaks creating multiple partitions on a LVM volume" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101294615:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 957494 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "Missing added utility 'mdmon'" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95749415:13
stgraberright, need to split by group of 5, forgot about that...15:13
stgraberbug 968074, bug 1002357, bug 1017407, bug 1022915, bug 100997315:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 968074 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "Partitionable raid ignored by 65-mdadm-blkid.rules" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96807415:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1002357 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "sort out udev rules madness (3 editions installed into 4 files)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100235715:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1017407 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "should copy /etc/udev/ rule if available" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101740715:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1022915 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "mdadm in precise does not allow internal bitmap on version 1.2 arrays" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102291515:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1009973 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "SRU upstream bugfix micro point release 3.2.5" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100997315:14
infinitystgraber: I'm working with xnox to get a sanely-reviewed e2fsprogs update in.15:14
cjwatsonstgraber: person.irc_nicknames[0].nickname works fine except that doko hasn't set one15:14
infinitystgraber: And mdadm is in the queue, which should address some of those bugs (but not sure how many), and may also need some iterations before it can be accepted.15:14
stgraberyeah, there's a crazy amount of mdadm bugs targeted to the point release and I know mdadm was already rejected once from the queue15:15
infinitystgraber: With him frolicking at the Olympics and such, one of us might need to take up the banner there.15:15
bdmurrays/banner/torch/15:15
ogra_its only volleyball, no ?15:15
* ogra_ doubts that will keep him busy 24/715:16
infinityogra_: He's on vacation. :P15:16
ogra_oh, k15:16
ogra_heh15:16
stgraberat least one of the mdadm bugs is critical so would be good to see at least part of these fixes land soonish15:16
cjwatsonI'm OK to upload the next ubiquity SRU now, aren't I?15:16
stgrabercjwatson: it's already in the queue15:16
cjwatsonOh, it's there, yeah15:16
stgraberPackage management related bugs: bug 1017001, bug 831768, bug 936186, bug 924079, bug 100731415:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1017001 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "package resolvconf 1.63ubuntu14 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: pre-dependency problem - not installing resolvconf" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101700115:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 831768 in aptitude (Ubuntu Precise) "aptitude cannot handle conflicts with multiarch enabled" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83176815:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 936186 in software-properties (Ubuntu Precise) "add-apt-repository crashed with error in get_ppa_info_from_lp(): (23, 'Failed writing body (0 != 1607)')" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93618615:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 924079 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) "do-release-upgrade fails to upgrade from Oneiric to Precise: Couldn't configure pre-depend libtinfo5 for libncurses5, probably a dependency cycle" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92407915:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1007314 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "trying to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04: The package 'postgresql-contrib-8.2' is marked for removal but it's in the removal blacklist" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100731415:17
stgraberbug 946718, bug 22678015:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 946718 in update-notifier (Ubuntu Precise) "backend_helper.py crashed with RuntimeError in add_signal_receiver(): To make asynchronous calls, receive signals or export objects, D-Bus connections must be attached to a main loop by passing mainloop=... to the constructor or calling dbus.set_default_main_loop(...)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94671815:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 226780 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) "apt-key net-update does not obey APT::Acquire::http::Proxy" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22678015:17
cjwatson831768 is doomed, it's not going to get any further for .115:17
cjwatsonneeds serious upstream work15:17
stgrabercjwatson: ok, re-target to precise-updates then?15:17
cjwatsonYeah, doing15:18
infinityI'm not sure why 226780 is targetted for .115:18
infinitySure, it should be fixed "some day", but it's always been broken.15:18
infinity(And we keep turning off apt-key net-update when we find new security flaws in its design anyway :P)15:19
cjwatsonMaybe because we actually need to cycle the key soon15:19
cjwatson(As soon as I get round to the necessary publisher changes)15:19
cjwatsonBut yeah, we probably just need to deliver that in a package, I guess15:19
infinitycjwatson: Does our key cycling actually rely on net-update?  Cause that's going to end in tears.15:19
* slangasek waves from the train15:19
cjwatsonNo, it's a backstop measure15:19
cjwatsonAlthough very handy if we ever have to do an emergency cycling15:20
infinitycjwatson: I would have assumed it would be delivered in ubuntu-keyring, and there wouldn't be a hard cutover of doom.15:20
cjwatsonThere would be if our key were compromised.15:20
cjwatsonWell, possibly.15:20
infinitycjwatson: Absolutely.  Hence why the bug needs to be fixed.  Just not sure about the sudden .1 urgency.15:20
cjwatsonYeah.15:20
infinity(Well, the bugs, plural, net-update is a mess)15:20
stgrabermoved it to -updates too. We don't have a fix in quantal or even the beginning of a fix for it, so unlikely that someone can spend the time for 12.04.115:21
stgraber(especially considering the pretty long list of other bugs to fix)15:21
infinityThe tinfo/ncurses thing, I haven't seen before.  But it can't be a hard fix.15:22
infinityWell, it can't he hard to work around.  Fixing might be a bit much.15:22
stgraberwe really want to get that list to reflect what can be done for 12.04.1, so if you're planning on working on one of these, assign it to yourself, if you know it won't happen, comment and move to another milestone.15:23
stgraberInstaller related bug: bug 966480, bug 484252, bug 1021293, bug 99206115:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 966480 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "The prompt asking for media removal is not shown at the end of the installation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96648015:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 484252 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Precise) "Format action wipes all partitions" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48425215:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1021293 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Ubuntu 12.04 install stalls when doing apt-get upgrade" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102129315:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 992061 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Precise) "USB Startup Disk Creator displays one USB device multiple times" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99206115:23
cjwatsonI'll see if I can scrape together time for 1021293 from somewhere :-/15:23
stgraberI'll take the casper one as I've seen it happen a few times and it's really annoying15:23
stgraberARM enablement bugs: bug 100401115:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1004011 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu Precise) "Add support for highbank in flash-kernel" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100401115:24
stgraberLooks like NCommander is taking care of these (he uploaded the d-i bits IIRC)15:25
stgraberMulti-arch: bug 977947, bug 977952, bug 977964, bug 977940, bug 97795915:25
cjwatsonstgraber: That one has two uploads in the queue, never mind one, I think15:25
* ogra_ is happy to help out if needed15:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 977947 in libbonobo (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libbonobo to multi-arch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97794715:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 977952 in libbonoboui (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libbonoboui to multi-arch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97795215:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 977964 in libart-lgpl (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libart-lgpl to multi-arch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97796415:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 977940 in gnome-vfs (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition gnome-vfs to multi-arch" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97794015:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 977959 in libgnome (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libgnome to multi-arch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97795915:25
cjwatsonBitten by bug 1025515 so it's a little hard to tell15:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1025515 in Launchpad itself "LP diffs are being linked at http://lplibrarian-private-download.internal:8000" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102551515:25
cjwatson(Sorry about that)15:25
stgraberstokachu: any progress with the rdepends rebuild test?15:26
stgraberGrub/boot: bug 975931, bug 942846, bug 98091715:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 975931 in grub-gfxpayload-lists (Ubuntu Quantal) "purple screen freeze with AMD 6850" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97593115:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 942846 in grub-gfxpayload-lists (Ubuntu Precise) "encrypted install fails to boot as long as vt.handoff=7 is used" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94284615:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 980917 in upstart (Ubuntu Precise) "Failed to create pty - disabling logging for job" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98091715:26
cjwatsongrub-gfxpayload-lists is supposed to be essentially owned by desktop.15:27
cjwatsonOr kernel.  Whoever knows what IDs are supposed to be in it.15:27
cjwatsonI started it off but with the aim that we'd no longer have to care.15:27
stgraberok, I'll try to get someone to look at these tomorrow in the 12.04.1 meeting then15:27
stgraberjodh: are we likely to get a fix for bug 980917 in time for 12.04.1?15:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 980917 in upstart (Ubuntu Precise) "Failed to create pty - disabling logging for job" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98091715:28
jodhI've spent a bit of time looking at 980917, but it doesn't appear to be the quick fix we thought.15:28
jodhI'll take another look at it and see if I can make some further progress....15:28
stgraberthanks15:29
stgraberNetworking: bug 99457515:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 994575 in resolvconf (Ubuntu Precise) "/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/000resolvconf should "exit 0" if pppd was run by NM, since NM will register the nameserver addresses itself" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99457515:29
infinityjodh: The mounting and mknod tricks we talked about weren't sufficient? :/15:29
stgraberthat one is fixed in quantal, I'll take care of pushing a batch of network related SRUs based on the fixes that landed in quantal, including that one15:29
jodhinfinity: no - same behaviour as before.15:29
infinityjodh: Well, that's a lot of suck.15:30
stgraberOther core packages: bug 974584, bug 979003, bug 101419715:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97458415:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 979003 in eglibc (Ubuntu Precise) "libc incorrectly detects AVX support" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97900315:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1014197 in libxslt (Ubuntu Precise) "package libxslt1-dev 1.1.26-8ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: './usr/bin/xslt-config' is different from the same file on the system" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101419715:30
infinitystgraber: So... One would think that bug 1004011 would be addressed by release-upgrader-apt.  Except that, I'm betting we only backported/used that for lucid.15:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1004011 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu Precise) "Add support for highbank in flash-kernel" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100401115:30
infinitystgraber: Err, wrong number.15:31
infinitybug 92407915:31
infinityThat one.15:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 924079 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) "do-release-upgrade fails to upgrade from Oneiric to Precise: Couldn't configure pre-depend libtinfo5 for libncurses5, probably a dependency cycle" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92407915:31
* stgraber takes bug 101419715:31
infinitystgraber: Perhaps just doing the same release-upgrader-apt backport trick for oneiric would magically give us sunshine and kittens.15:31
infinitystgraber: As for 979003, I'm on it.  When's my deadline for getting that in, again?15:32
infinitystgraber: I definitely want the fix in the images.15:32
stgraberinfinity: 2nd of August is when we'd like all that stuff to be in -proposed at the very least15:32
infinitystgraber: Check, I can beat that clock.15:33
infinitystgraber: It got delayed with a lot of re-writing and re-backporting upstream.15:33
stgraberbdmurray: are you planning on doing the transitional package for bug 1007314 or should I take care of it?15:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1007314 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "trying to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04: The package 'postgresql-contrib-8.2' is marked for removal but it's in the removal blacklist" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100731415:33
infinitystgraber: AVX/FMA4 is a mess.15:33
bdmurraystgraber: no, I'm not planning on it15:33
stgraberbdmurray: ok, taking it then15:34
stgraberright, that's it for our 12.04.1 bug list15:34
stgraberI'll be keeping track of these and will likely poke some of you to get some status update or check whether something should be moved to a later milestone15:35
cjwatsonI've just got http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise-proposed_probs.html working again, I think - we'll see at the next run15:35
stgraberI'm also going to take 97458415:36
stgraberas the server team said they'd prefer to have someone from foundations merge the fix from Debian and SRU it15:37
stgraberthere's also one more fix that we'll need pretty soon which is fixing live-build to only ship one kernel header15:37
stgraberis someone already looking into that?15:37
infinitystgraber: I was going to look into that.  Is there a bug for it, or should I JFDI?15:37
stgraber(images are oversized at the moment, so anything to help get their size down a bit would help)15:37
infinitystgraber: The quicker and less intrusive fix will probably be to post-process the chroot in livecd-rootfs, not fix it in live-build.15:38
cjwatsoninfinity: I had a work item for it from ages back.  I don't think I ever filed a bug.15:38
stgraberinfinity: can't find a bug for it15:38
cjwatsoninfinity: It should be a matter of carrying over the code from livecd.sh.15:38
infinitycjwatson: Alright.  I'm not going to go WI hunting, I'll JFDI.15:38
cjwatsonAnd figuring out where to plug it in.15:38
infinitycjwatson: Yeahp, that's where the cargo-culting was going to happen. :P15:38
cjwatsonIt's in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-live-build15:38
* infinity replaces live-build with livecd.sh and waits to see who notices.15:39
cjwatsonYou can have it, not that I expect anything will notice the assignee change15:39
cjwatson#topic AOB15:40
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* ogra_ hugs infinity 15:40
ogra_would be lovely to have it back :)15:40
infinityIn the AOB camp, I'd like to remind people that Debian's all wheezy freezy.  If you have a spare 5 minutes where you're not, like, working on work, or having a life, go be a good citizen and fix an RC bug or two upstream.15:42
cjwatsonIn theory I need to see if I can squeeze in python3-debian and GRUB 2.00.  Might be getting decreasingly plausible :(15:43
* cjwatson is planning on taking a few days of holiday next week to do housework and work on Debian, since the family's going to be away15:43
* cjwatson <- exciting life15:43
infinitycjwatson: Significantly more plausible than my plan to ship glibc 2.15 a week before release.15:43
barryor mine to make python3.3 the default and remove python2 entirely? :)15:44
* infinity is still miffed he missed the cuttof to just doko that in before freeze.15:44
cjwatson(There may be some Guitar Hero involved too.)15:44
infinityCan I use doko as a verb for that?  Seems fair.15:44
ogra_heh15:44
* ogra_ just discovered Xonotic for gaming ... to actually make some use of the shiny new desktop i have 15:45
barryinfinity: you've created a new meme15:45
ogra_"lets doko that in !" ...15:45
ogra_surely makes a nice t-shirt15:45
ScottKbarry: This isn't arch.15:46
barryor just a new meaning for the 'd' in jfdi15:46
barry:)15:46
slangasekbarry: AIUI 3.3 is on track upstream for where we said it needed to be... *are* we going to take it by default in quantal?15:47
infinitybarry: wwdd?15:47
ScottKFWIW, dh_python3 is not ready for 3.3 yet.15:48
barryslangasek: i think beta2 was delayed a week.  not sure how that's going to play out15:48
cjwatsonScottK: What's needed?15:48
slangasekScottK: not ready in what sense?15:48
evvery excited about mock in the standard library15:49
ScottKSee Debian Bug #67217815:49
ubottuDebian bug 672178 in src:python3-defaults "dh_python3: not ready for Python 3.3" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/67217815:49
slangasekbarry: ^^ seems that should get tracked on the blueprint then?15:50
barryi'll open a bug on the ubuntu srcpkg and link it to that debian bug15:50
barryslangasek: yes15:50
barrybug 102620315:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1026203 in python3-defaults (Ubuntu) "python3-defaults does not yet support Python 3.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102620315:52
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cjwatsonok, sounds like that's all, thanks15:56
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ogra_thanks !15:56
barrythanks!15:56
stgraberthanks!15:56
jodhthanks!15:57
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papibehi s-fox23:01
s-fox'Leo23:01
s-fox'lo23:01
papibes-fox: :)23:01
s-foxSo is it just coffeecat and I?23:02
coffeecato/23:04
hobgoblinlooks like23:04
matt_symesdoes that mean the meeting is called off ?23:04
s-foxThink might have to cancel :(23:04
s-foxNo quorum23:04
s-fox* ridiculous *23:05
hobgoblinyep23:05
papibe:(23:05
s-foxIm really sorry ;-(23:05
s-fox 23:05
wildmanne39are we going to wait a few minutes?23:06
s-fox I don't mind waiting for another 1023:06
wildmanne39ok23:06
coffeecatI doubt we'll see cariboo http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12104754&postcount=213423:07
s-foxSo how are the mods?23:07
hobgoblintired :)23:07
s-fox+123:07
nothingspecialhere23:07
papibestaff=mods?23:07
hobgoblinspending too long on spam bans waiting for vb4 and tools that might turn up one day :)23:08
s-foxOui23:08
wildmanne39just got back to town 30 minutes ago23:08
papibemerci23:08
* s-fox spent all night taking money off people at billiards 23:09
s-fox;D23:09
hobgoblin:)23:09
wildmanne39sounds like fun23:09
papibes-fox: did it only once, and won.23:10
s-foxWell im now home.23:12
s-foxcoffeecat:  do you think we should rearrange?23:12
* s-fox will post in scc later.23:12
s-foxThis is not even funny anymore23:12
coffeecats-fox, yes.23:13
matt_symesshame :(23:13
s-foxI know matt_symes :(23:13
s-foxI am sorry to all those who did come23:13
oldos2ers-fox: not your fault23:13
s-fox:(23:14
hobgoblink - well I'm off to catch up on some zzzz's23:14
matt_symeslaters hobgoblin23:14
s-foxMe too. Silly o'clock in the morning with a 5am start23:14
wildmanne39night s-fox23:15
s-foxTo be frank I am disappointed23:15
matt_symesouch s-fox23:15
s-foxAnyway, see you all.23:15
nothingspecialme too23:15
papibeoki doki, I'm sure next time will be better.23:15
wildmanne39yes but we can do nothing about it23:15

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