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christelGood Morning!07:11
AlanBellmorning o/07:18
christelhullu mr Bell!07:21
matttohai07:48
christelmorning mattt \o/07:48
diploMorning all08:07
christeldiplo :)08:08
christel(i still read your nick as duplo)08:08
diploAlready used :(08:18
christelaw :(08:19
popeymorning08:19
christelhellooooo popey08:19
JamesTaitMorning all! :)08:19
brobostigongood morning everyone.08:20
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bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:23
brobostigongood morning bigcalm :)08:23
bigcalmFinally back home but still on holiday. Don't know what to do with myself, so I'm back in my office. Yay08:23
bigcalmHi brobostigon :)(08:23
bigcalm-(08:23
popeyGood morning bigcalm :)08:29
livingdaylightgreetings all - I come in peace - may you all prosper08:30
bigcalmpopey: hiyaaaaaa08:31
brobostigongood morning livingdaylight08:32
livingdaylightgm brobostigon08:33
* popey switches machines08:37
bigcalmI wonder if the other machine is in another building08:41
bigcalmOh, there he is08:45
popeyhere I am!08:49
bigcalmStuck in the middle with you08:54
livingdaylightpopey: hey... remember last week or so, the issues I was reporting about system being sluggish and freezing up?08:54
popeyi do08:54
livingdaylightpopey: so, it turns out it was my wireless keyboard!08:54
livingdaylightI changed it and presto problems resolved... I upgraded to a new £300 computer for nothing08:54
popeyJul 11 13:41:54 <livingdaylight>I now have the system not responding to my mouse. It only enables me to launch programs, but for instance, when I launched FF and tried to open a new tab, I couldn't. Or when launching X-chat I wanted to go to edit to add ubuntu-uk to the default list of rooms and again, couldn't. Its as if screen froze. I just put new batteries in this wireless mouse.08:55
popeyyou changed battery in the mouse, but not the keyboard? :)08:55
livingdaylightI don't remember EVER changing the batteries in my keyboard. When mouse would stop working is when I knew I had to change batteries... I expected the same with the keyboard. Not that it would affect the system though08:56
livingdaylightI haven't even put new batteries in the old keyboard. I just, on a whim, tried a different keyboard, So, not sure if it is batteries or broken keyboard even08:57
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livingdaylighthow funny to get a new pc and expect problems resolved only to be dismayed that the same problems from before are recurring and eventually find out it was only a keyboard all along. Have to look on the funny side08:58
livingdaylightthe thing is the new pc is quite a bit louder than my previous one, so, I do regret a bit the extra expenditure, for naught, as it turned out, especially, when the beast is constantly letting me know its there. Maybe just need to upgrade the fans... Anyway... just thought I'd let you know what that was all about in the end, as it seemed abit of a mystery at the time.09:00
livingdaylightMay that be a free lesson to everyone. Check all your cables and peripherals before assuming your machine is broke, lol.09:01
gordgmail has been really crap with my spam filtering lately, now its not only not filtering away the spam mail but marking it as important...09:10
diplolivingdaylight: What PC did you go for in the end, pre-built ?09:13
livingdaylightdiplo: no, I went and bought the parts and put it together myself.09:13
livingdaylightdiplo: intel i-3 2120, Asus p8-h61 mobo, 1x8gb ram, 500gb hd, Coolmaster Silencio 55009:14
livingdaylightIf it weren't for the case, I shouldn't have paid more than £250, but case jacked it up unfortunately, as I'm not so impressed with it. Not quite living up to its name 'Silencio' oh, also got a 750W psu. So, fairly future proof and upgradable system.09:16
diplo:)09:20
diplonot bad then, still trying to talk my parents into one of the zoostorms09:20
livingdaylightdiplo: yea, would not have gone wrong with one of them either. I just enjoyed putting a pc together myself. And for the same money I got to have a say in the various parts which individually are probably better than zoostorms default offering. Maybe I'm wrong09:31
popeyI've been pretty impressed with the zoostorm on my desk09:32
diploUp until last 2-3 years ive always built my own, had a hand me down dell atm09:32
diploBut want a new machine09:32
popeyI stopped building my own years ago09:33
diplobigcalm: Your photo skills suck :)09:33
livingdaylightpopey: but you got an i7 which isn't budget, even for a zoostorm09:34
bigcalmdiplo: :D09:34
livingdaylightpopey: why d'you stop building your own?09:34
diploNot tagging them, or just being slow ?09:34
popeylife is too short09:34
bigcalmdiplo: give us a chance!09:34
livingdaylightdiplo: why do you want a new machine?09:34
diploGet on it man! What have you got work to do or something?!?!?!!?09:34
diploPlay some newer games, mine is chugging somewhat now09:34
diploAnd re-encoding some more of my films on a quad core would make life much easier09:35
bigcalmdiplo: nope, on holiday :(*09:35
diploAlright for some09:36
bigcalmThere, all tagged now09:41
bigcalmhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/113834766641843352499/posts/GqwQp3Y3LbS09:41
diploUpto anything for the rest of the week bigcalm ?09:51
bigcalmdiplo: I need to buy some shoes. Other than that, no idea09:52
bigcalmReally trying not to do any work09:52
diploheh09:52
czajkowskibigcalm: a walk?09:53
czajkowskitake photos?09:53
czajkowskimow the law09:53
bigcalmczajkowski: have you seen the recent photos I've taken?09:53
bigcalmMaybe I need more practice ;)09:53
czajkowskibigcalm: indeed well there you go, get off line and practice :)09:53
bigcalmczajkowski: it was so sad that we didn't get to play with you on Saturday :( I hope you're feeling better soon09:54
czajkowskibigcalm: that just sounds wrong09:54
bigcalmczajkowski: now you sound like davmor2 :S09:54
* bigcalm heads out for a bit - toodles10:00
davmor2Morning all10:01
davmor2bigcalm: hello, goodbye10:01
davmor2czajkowski: Prod! morning10:01
jussiok, ukites, I need to know the best way to get from Heathrow to oxford, suggestions please?10:17
czajkowskijussi: factor in olympics :)10:18
jussioh, I should add "during the olympics..."10:18
jussiczajkowski: yeah10:18
directhexjussi, there's a bus10:18
czajkowskicheck the website for up to date info as routes/plans have all changed.10:18
jussidirecthex: link if you dont mind?10:18
directhexhttp://www.oxfordbus.co.uk/main.php?page_id=2410:18
directhexterminal 5 to gloucester green bus station10:19
jussiright, we arrive at 850, _might_ make the 10am...10:19
jussibut they are every 30 mins, so thats nice10:20
jussiAnyone know which terminal Air italia usually uses?10:20
czajkowskijussi: terminal 4 says google10:21
directhexhttp://www.heathrowairport.com/flight-information/which-terminal10:21
czajkowskihttp://www.heathrowairport.com/flight-information/which-terminal10:21
directhex:D10:21
czajkowskidynf10:21
czajkowski:)10:21
jussi:D10:21
AlanBelljussi: when are you here?10:22
jussiAlanBell: in the week of 30/7-3/810:22
christeljussi: my suggestion would be to not come before after the olympics :P10:27
jussichristel: no choice in the matter, its a business trip10:28
christelawww10:28
christelwho conducts business during the olympics?!10:29
jussipeople who do business :F10:29
AlanBellit should be fine, London will be a mess and Heathrow will be a bit busy, but Oxford should be fine10:29
davmor2christel: everyone10:30
AlanBelldavmor2: only the official sponsors are allowed to conduct business during the olympics10:30
* jussi hugs christel :D10:31
davmor2jussi: in oxford you need to go to the eagle and child, the food is good there ask the american QA contingent :D10:32
jussidavmor2: :D10:33
davmor2jussi: just don't say the pie word10:33
jussilol10:33
christelmmmpie.10:34
jussiI think a peice of smoked cod and some chips will be awesome while Im there :D10:34
christela smoked cod piece..10:34
jussihaha10:35
christeli have a silly day with like tons of small projects to do, this frustrates me as i have no idea what to do first10:35
christel(so i just end up procrastinating instead)10:36
AlanBellIRC is the thing to do first10:36
* davmor2 pictures christel doing ibble obble black bobble as we speak10:36
jussichristel: I know exactly how you feel :D10:36
christeldavmor2: ahaha10:37
* davmor2 now pictures jussi doing the same thing 10:38
christeli am picturing highly inappropriate things10:43
* AlanBell is less than entirely surprised by that10:43
christelhrmph.10:44
christeli was actually picturing brownies with crispy bacon10:44
christelas i am pondering if this would be a culinary delight worth exploring10:44
christel:)10:44
christel<- sweetness and innocence (apart from where bacon is involved)10:44
davmor2christel: don't say that when Jono is on the channel10:46
christelhaha10:48
christelthat was not the kind of brownie i had in mind :P10:48
jussichristel: no, not choclate + bacon. However! Bacon and caramel muffins could work...10:49
jussi(Im serious)10:49
* AlanBell expects interesting stuff to be brought to the BBQ10:49
christeli have a green & black's "cooking with chocolate "cookery book10:50
christelit has some nice stuff10:50
gord"how to get diabetes"10:50
* davmor2 thinks that christel is actually Letitia Cropley from the vicar of dibley10:51
christelit has stuff like VENISON IN CHOCOLATE SAUCE(!)10:51
christelmmmmm10:51
christeli can see bacon and caramel working actually10:55
christelcaramel is rather yummy with salt(!)10:55
jussichristel: everyone knows bacon and maple syrup is awesome, and the canadians do wonderful bacon pancakes with maple syrup10:57
christelmmbacon11:13
livingdaylightIn Unity 1-click on workspace switcher opens the quadrant and then it takes another double-click for chosen workspace to maximize. Is there a way, I wonder, not to have to double-click? That makes it 3 mouse twitches to switch workspace which isn't as comfortable as it used to be.11:25
oimonanyone recommend an html editor?11:28
gordnotepad.exe11:30
diplonotepad++, Komodo, Gedit, Netbeans.11:30
diploDepends what you want really, but I use any of those 4 on a regular basis11:30
oimoni have some mhtml files that i have to edit. i'm converting to html and editing them :-\11:31
diploOn linux ?11:32
oimonyesh11:33
diploKomodo works well for me, not in repos though Komodo Edit, Netbeans is a lot heavier but works well11:33
diploGedit doesn't have auto complete, or doesn't work that well if ti does11:33
oimonnotepad++ is ubuntu?11:34
diploWindows, but runs fairly well under wine11:34
oimonah11:34
oimoni just wanna wysiwyg style editor to strip out some guff on the (m)html files11:37
oimona bit like the komposer/mozilla used to11:37
diploYou want to see the page like with dreamweaver whilst editing it you mean ?11:38
oimonyes11:43
oimonlooks like kompozer is still around11:44
diploI've always just handcrafted code11:44
diploYou can set most of these browsers to have a keybinding to open the page you are working with for your default browser11:45
diploI just have a browser open on a local apache install and alt tab / refresh11:45
oimonunfortunately i am required to edit pages created by some MS crap11:53
oimonfor some tutorials11:53
oimonquick and dirty11:53
diploAn:/11:57
oimonhmm.. i'm buying something on ebay that has cheaper postage when you buy 2 items, buy incorrect postage appears in checkout :-\11:57
oimonmust be something the seller has neglected to do, right11:58
oimon?11:58
diploSounds like it, rarely use ebay now adays11:59
oimonit's an annoying necessity12:10
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diploPython people, whats the best way of checking a script without it executing13:46
diploJust want to check it will execute without errors before customer trys it, just incase any of the cut and paste has screwed anything up13:47
diplopython -m py_compile script.py <-- Just found that ?13:47
* bigcalm waddles back in13:48
directhexpopey, looks like we have our fir... second i guess given bastion, XNA-based game in the ubuntu app store13:53
christelBIGCLAM13:59
christelhow is le holiday?13:59
bigcalmchristel: my deer! It is relaxing thanks :)14:01
christel\o/14:01
bigcalmHow's it down south?14:02
directhexCOVERED IN BEES14:02
gordhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GadTfGFvU ?14:03
diploWet!14:03
davmor2gord: I thought this when I saw it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs-tl6GBOBo14:04
oimondirecthex, which game's that?14:05
directhexhttps://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/hackwork/14:05
christelbigcalm: down south is.. good, wet but good :)14:06
oimondirecthex, "Ubuntu One synchronization of save-games and settings" sweet14:16
directhexoimon, heh, that *is* pretty sweet. it's a must-have feature in steam14:16
oimonmore apps need this14:16
oimonthings seem to be moving apace with ubuntu this year14:17
gordcan't you use sync the folder it saves things to?14:17
oimongord, sometimes prone to issues14:17
oimone.g. lock files and scared of overwriting data14:18
gordthe very nature of syncronisation means you are always gonna run into problems14:18
oimonu1 doesn't have version cotnrol yet does it ?14:18
gordnope14:18
* diplo wants sleep14:30
diploWonder if anyone will notice if i take 30 :)14:30
bigcalmI'm surprised that my phone hasn't rung with the office number this week14:33
diplo:P14:34
diploI used to worry about that tbh, new job they refuse even if i offer14:34
diploSo all good14:34
bigcalmThat's the expenses sorted out for our holiday down south. Hayley was a touch surprised. And we get to do it all again in August with oggcamp14:36
davmor2bigcalm: I wouldn't head down souff for oogcamp dude ;)14:40
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bigcalmdavmor2: indeed, might be disappointed14:40
Myrttimäh14:43
Myrttiaquarius: ping14:44
oimonhope oggcamp will be down south again next year..14:49
aquariusMyrtti, pong14:49
oimonwill be nice to go again. liverpool is a bit much14:49
bigcalmLive in the Midlands. Then you get to complain about going in either direction and still go :D14:50
penguin42oimon: Can't cope with our northern air?14:50
oimonno, too stinky and far away14:50
oimonbut mostly the far away thing14:51
oimonfarnham was great cos my dad lives there14:51
oimonand in-laws nearby14:51
oimonso wiff+sprog get to go with me14:51
Myrttiaquarius: mind a pm?14:52
aquariusgo for it14:52
aquariusam I that intimidating that I need be asked? :)14:53
bigcalmAwww14:53
bigcalmaquarius: time for a shave maybe?14:53
bigcalmHumm, I need a shave14:53
Myrttiaquarius: courtesy stuck from elsewhere15:02
Myrttiold dog new tricks etc15:05
bigcalmdirecthex: would you recommend Dear Esther?16:19
directhexbigcalm, dunno, it's arthouse nonsense imho, but i've enjoyed arthouse nonsense before (journey on ps3)16:20
bigcalm:D16:20
bigcalmWhat sort of game play is it?16:20
directhexfirst person explorer, iirc16:21
bigcalmMyst?16:21
bigcalmAh, Myst3 then16:21
directhexi guess16:21
bigcalmTa16:21
davmor2bigcalm: BOO!16:23
bigcalmThe Binding of Isaac Collection, Dear Esther, GTA complete package == £11.7116:23
bigcalmIt would be rude not to16:23
bigcalmdavmor2: boing16:23
directhexbigcalm, well, 11 more sales in half an hour.16:29
directhexbigcalm, last chance for just cause 2!16:29
bigcalmdirecthex: never heard of that16:30
directhexhttp://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1632-Just-Cause-216:30
bigcalmThe best reviews are from Zero Punctuation :)16:30
bigcalm\o/16:35
bigcalmdirecthex: sold!16:35
bigcalmYou bugger16:35
directhexbigcalm, or i could link tomy entire game library, ordered by play time: http://steamcommunity.com/id/directhex/games?tab=all16:37
* bigcalm puts directhex on ignore for a little bit16:38
directhex11 new sales in 20 mins, people!16:38
bigcalmdirecthex: are you on commission?16:39
directhexbigcalm, i love games!16:39
bigcalmdirecthex: that you do :)16:39
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jacobwevening17:10
davmor2bigcalm: he's on commission I'm with you there :D17:14
* bigcalm zooms out for the evening17:51
MartijnVdSbigcalm: photo time? :)17:52
* jacobw is watching eureka from the syfy channel17:58
MartijnVdSjacobw: not the comet's tale on bbc4?19:01
jacobwperhaps i'll fire up the vpn19:02
MartijnVdSoh yeah19:02
MartijnVdSyou're not in the uk either :)19:02
* jacobw pines for the bbc19:04
MartijnVdSaww19:04
* MartijnVdS likes that's he's close to the coast (= close to the UK)19:05
jacobwhehe, freesat?19:05
matttfeel a bit late to the party, but finally got my raspberry pi :)19:06
* jacobw sneezes on mattt's pi19:12
MartijnVdSjacobw: yeah19:12
* mattt sneezes on jacobw19:14
jacobwoi19:23
* daubers drinks his wine and stays out of the little boys fighting again19:23
jacobwwhat's the wine daubers?19:25
ubuntuuk-planet[Ubuntu UK Podcast] S05E11  Freedom Through Disobedience - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2012/07/18/s05e11-freedom-through-disobedience/19:27
popeyoh look!19:28
* mattt sneezes on daubers' wine19:28
* popey runs up to gord 19:28
popeyBARK BARK BARK!19:28
MartijnVdSyo, dawg19:29
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jacobwyo dwag, i heard you liked some dawg in your dawg, so i put some dawg in your dawg, dwag :)19:31
daubersjacobw: Umm... some red we were given :)19:33
daubersMerlot I think19:33
daubersThis must be the cool side of the netsplit, 'cause we got Daviey19:36
MartijnVdSwoo19:37
ahayzenyey :)19:39
matttany of you lot going to the openstack meetup next week?19:45
mattt(in london)19:45
czajkowskiyup19:49
* christel nibbles on czajkowski 19:51
czajkowskiherrro19:53
czajkowskichristel: you coming up next week?19:53
czajkowskihttp://www.meetup.com/Openstack-London/events/55354582/19:53
matttczajkowski: nice, be sure to say hi19:55
czajkowskiwell it'l be easier for you to come find me and say hi19:55
matttdang it19:57
christeli doubt it, maybe, no promises tho!20:04
ubuntuuk-planet[Jono Bacon] Steam on Ubuntu - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/07/18/steam-on-ubuntu/20:27
pichi guys21:37
dwatkinsello21:41
bigcalmEllo :)22:13
popeypip pip22:31
bigcalmNight night :)22:50
Davieydaubers: :D22:53
Azelphurhttp://blog.cyphermox.net/2012/03/call-for-testing-bluez-a2dp-and-hsphfp.html has anyone ever got this to work?22:55
AzelphurI want it :(22:55
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yothsoggothCan anybody recommend which UK Linux magazine is any good?23:39
Azelphurwhy do you want to buy dead trees o.O23:40
yothsoggothto read?23:42
* yothsoggoth hides from judgment behind a (live) tree23:42
Azelphur:P23:42
Azelphuryothsoggoth: I dunno about magazines, generally the place to get info is online.23:42
yothsoggothAny particular sites to recommend then? :P. I do often check omgubuntu and planet.(distro)... but I thought magazines might have something more that's worth reading23:44
AzelphurI'd imagine it's the opposite, the web has much more content available than a dead tree :P23:45
Azelphurreddit.com/r/linux has good stuff if your ok with community generated content and the occasional question mixed in23:46
yothsoggothYeahh, I just thought that magazines might have some nice tutorials and stuff. reddit seems like a good place to read!23:48

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