[02:21] <antony__> .
[02:21] <Azelphur> ..
[07:11] <christel> Good Morning!
[07:18] <AlanBell> morning o/
[07:21] <christel> hullu mr Bell!
[07:48] <mattt> ohai
[07:48] <christel> morning mattt \o/
[08:07] <diplo> Morning all
[08:08] <christel> diplo :)
[08:08] <christel> (i still read your nick as duplo)
[08:18] <diplo> Already used :(
[08:19] <christel> aw :(
[08:19] <popey> morning
[08:19] <christel> hellooooo popey
[08:19] <JamesTait> Morning all! :)
[08:20] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[08:23] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:23] <brobostigon> good morning bigcalm :)
[08:23] <bigcalm> Finally back home but still on holiday. Don't know what to do with myself, so I'm back in my office. Yay
[08:23] <bigcalm> Hi brobostigon :)(
[08:23] <bigcalm> -(
[08:29] <popey> Good morning bigcalm :)
[08:30] <livingdaylight> greetings all - I come in peace - may you all prosper
[08:31] <bigcalm> popey: hiyaaaaaa
[08:32] <brobostigon> good morning livingdaylight
[08:33] <livingdaylight> gm brobostigon
[08:37]  * popey switches machines
[08:41] <bigcalm> I wonder if the other machine is in another building
[08:45] <bigcalm> Oh, there he is
[08:49] <popey> here I am!
[08:54] <bigcalm> Stuck in the middle with you
[08:54] <livingdaylight> popey: hey... remember last week or so, the issues I was reporting about system being sluggish and freezing up?
[08:54] <popey> i do
[08:54] <livingdaylight> popey: so, it turns out it was my wireless keyboard!
[08:54] <livingdaylight> I changed it and presto problems resolved... I upgraded to a new £300 computer for nothing
[08:55] <popey> Jul 11 13:41:54 <livingdaylight>	I now have the system not responding to my mouse. It only enables me to launch programs, but for instance, when I launched FF and tried to open a new tab, I couldn't. Or when launching X-chat I wanted to go to edit to add ubuntu-uk to the default list of rooms and again, couldn't. Its as if screen froze. I just put new batteries in this wireless mouse.
[08:55] <popey> you changed battery in the mouse, but not the keyboard? :)
[08:56] <livingdaylight> I don't remember EVER changing the batteries in my keyboard. When mouse would stop working is when I knew I had to change batteries... I expected the same with the keyboard. Not that it would affect the system though
[08:57] <livingdaylight> I haven't even put new batteries in the old keyboard. I just, on a whim, tried a different keyboard, So, not sure if it is batteries or broken keyboard even
[08:58] <livingdaylight> how funny to get a new pc and expect problems resolved only to be dismayed that the same problems from before are recurring and eventually find out it was only a keyboard all along. Have to look on the funny side
[09:00] <livingdaylight> the thing is the new pc is quite a bit louder than my previous one, so, I do regret a bit the extra expenditure, for naught, as it turned out, especially, when the beast is constantly letting me know its there. Maybe just need to upgrade the fans... Anyway... just thought I'd let you know what that was all about in the end, as it seemed abit of a mystery at the time.
[09:01] <livingdaylight> May that be a free lesson to everyone. Check all your cables and peripherals before assuming your machine is broke, lol.
[09:10] <gord> gmail has been really crap with my spam filtering lately, now its not only not filtering away the spam mail but marking it as important...
[09:13] <diplo> livingdaylight: What PC did you go for in the end, pre-built ?
[09:13] <livingdaylight> diplo: no, I went and bought the parts and put it together myself.
[09:14] <livingdaylight> diplo: intel i-3 2120, Asus p8-h61 mobo, 1x8gb ram, 500gb hd, Coolmaster Silencio 550
[09:16] <livingdaylight> If it weren't for the case, I shouldn't have paid more than £250, but case jacked it up unfortunately, as I'm not so impressed with it. Not quite living up to its name 'Silencio' oh, also got a 750W psu. So, fairly future proof and upgradable system.
[09:20] <diplo> :)
[09:20] <diplo> not bad then, still trying to talk my parents into one of the zoostorms
[09:31] <livingdaylight> diplo: yea, would not have gone wrong with one of them either. I just enjoyed putting a pc together myself. And for the same money I got to have a say in the various parts which individually are probably better than zoostorms default offering. Maybe I'm wrong
[09:32] <popey> I've been pretty impressed with the zoostorm on my desk
[09:32] <diplo> Up until last 2-3 years ive always built my own, had a hand me down dell atm
[09:32] <diplo> But want a new machine
[09:33] <popey> I stopped building my own years ago
[09:33] <diplo> bigcalm: Your photo skills suck :)
[09:34] <livingdaylight> popey: but you got an i7 which isn't budget, even for a zoostorm
[09:34] <bigcalm> diplo: :D
[09:34] <livingdaylight> popey: why d'you stop building your own?
[09:34] <diplo> Not tagging them, or just being slow ?
[09:34] <popey> life is too short
[09:34] <bigcalm> diplo: give us a chance!
[09:34] <livingdaylight> diplo: why do you want a new machine?
[09:34] <diplo> Get on it man! What have you got work to do or something?!?!?!!?
[09:34] <diplo> Play some newer games, mine is chugging somewhat now
[09:35] <diplo> And re-encoding some more of my films on a quad core would make life much easier
[09:35] <bigcalm> diplo: nope, on holiday :(*
[09:36] <diplo> Alright for some
[09:41] <bigcalm> There, all tagged now
[09:41] <bigcalm> https://plus.google.com/u/0/113834766641843352499/posts/GqwQp3Y3LbS
[09:51] <diplo> Upto anything for the rest of the week bigcalm ?
[09:52] <bigcalm> diplo: I need to buy some shoes. Other than that, no idea
[09:52] <bigcalm> Really trying not to do any work
[09:52] <diplo> heh
[09:53] <czajkowski> bigcalm: a walk?
[09:53] <czajkowski> take photos?
[09:53] <czajkowski> mow the law
[09:53] <bigcalm> czajkowski: have you seen the recent photos I've taken?
[09:53] <bigcalm> Maybe I need more practice ;)
[09:53] <czajkowski> bigcalm: indeed well there you go, get off line and practice :)
[09:54] <bigcalm> czajkowski: it was so sad that we didn't get to play with you on Saturday :( I hope you're feeling better soon
[09:54] <czajkowski> bigcalm: that just sounds wrong
[09:54] <bigcalm> czajkowski: now you sound like davmor2 :S
[10:00]  * bigcalm heads out for a bit - toodles
[10:01] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:01] <davmor2> bigcalm: hello, goodbye
[10:01] <davmor2> czajkowski: Prod! morning
[10:17] <jussi> ok, ukites, I need to know the best way to get from Heathrow to oxford, suggestions please?
[10:18] <czajkowski> jussi: factor in olympics :)
[10:18] <jussi> oh, I should add "during the olympics..."
[10:18] <jussi> czajkowski: yeah
[10:18] <directhex> jussi, there's a bus
[10:18] <czajkowski> check the website for up to date info as routes/plans have all changed.
[10:18] <jussi> directhex: link if you dont mind?
[10:18] <directhex> http://www.oxfordbus.co.uk/main.php?page_id=24
[10:19] <directhex> terminal 5 to gloucester green bus station
[10:19] <jussi> right, we arrive at 850, _might_ make the 10am...
[10:20] <jussi> but they are every 30 mins, so thats nice
[10:20] <jussi> Anyone know which terminal Air italia usually uses?
[10:21] <czajkowski> jussi: terminal 4 says google
[10:21] <directhex> http://www.heathrowairport.com/flight-information/which-terminal
[10:21] <czajkowski> http://www.heathrowairport.com/flight-information/which-terminal
[10:21] <directhex> :D
[10:21] <czajkowski> dynf
[10:21] <czajkowski> :)
[10:21] <jussi> :D
[10:22] <AlanBell> jussi: when are you here?
[10:22] <jussi> AlanBell: in the week of 30/7-3/8
[10:27] <christel> jussi: my suggestion would be to not come before after the olympics :P
[10:28] <jussi> christel: no choice in the matter, its a business trip
[10:28] <christel> awww
[10:29] <christel> who conducts business during the olympics?!
[10:29] <jussi> people who do business :F
[10:29] <AlanBell> it should be fine, London will be a mess and Heathrow will be a bit busy, but Oxford should be fine
[10:30] <davmor2> christel: everyone
[10:30] <AlanBell> davmor2: only the official sponsors are allowed to conduct business during the olympics
[10:31]  * jussi hugs christel :D
[10:32] <davmor2> jussi: in oxford you need to go to the eagle and child, the food is good there ask the american QA contingent :D
[10:33] <jussi> davmor2: :D
[10:33] <davmor2> jussi: just don't say the pie word
[10:33] <jussi> lol
[10:34] <christel> mmmpie.
[10:34] <jussi> I think a peice of smoked cod and some chips will be awesome while Im there :D
[10:34] <christel> a smoked cod piece..
[10:35] <jussi> haha
[10:35] <christel> i have a silly day with like tons of small projects to do, this frustrates me as i have no idea what to do first
[10:36] <christel> (so i just end up procrastinating instead)
[10:36] <AlanBell> IRC is the thing to do first
[10:36]  * davmor2 pictures christel doing ibble obble black bobble as we speak
[10:36] <jussi> christel: I know exactly how you feel :D
[10:37] <christel> davmor2: ahaha
[10:38]  * davmor2 now pictures jussi doing the same thing 
[10:43] <christel> i am picturing highly inappropriate things
[10:43]  * AlanBell is less than entirely surprised by that
[10:44] <christel> hrmph.
[10:44] <christel> i was actually picturing brownies with crispy bacon
[10:44] <christel> as i am pondering if this would be a culinary delight worth exploring
[10:44] <christel> :)
[10:44] <christel> <- sweetness and innocence (apart from where bacon is involved)
[10:46] <davmor2> christel: don't say that when Jono is on the channel
[10:48] <christel> haha
[10:48] <christel> that was not the kind of brownie i had in mind :P
[10:49] <jussi> christel: no, not choclate + bacon. However! Bacon and caramel muffins could work...
[10:49] <jussi> (Im serious)
[10:49]  * AlanBell expects interesting stuff to be brought to the BBQ
[10:50] <christel> i have a green & black's "cooking with chocolate "cookery book
[10:50] <christel> it has some nice stuff
[10:50] <gord> "how to get diabetes"
[10:51]  * davmor2 thinks that christel is actually Letitia Cropley from the vicar of dibley
[10:51] <christel> it has stuff like VENISON IN CHOCOLATE SAUCE(!)
[10:51] <christel> mmmmm
[10:55] <christel> i can see bacon and caramel working actually
[10:55] <christel> caramel is rather yummy with salt(!)
[10:57] <jussi> christel: everyone knows bacon and maple syrup is awesome, and the canadians do wonderful bacon pancakes with maple syrup
[11:13] <christel> mmbacon
[11:25] <livingdaylight> In Unity 1-click on workspace switcher opens the quadrant and then it takes another double-click for chosen workspace to maximize. Is there a way, I wonder, not to have to double-click? That makes it 3 mouse twitches to switch workspace which isn't as comfortable as it used to be.
[11:28] <oimon> anyone recommend an html editor?
[11:30] <gord> notepad.exe
[11:30] <diplo> notepad++, Komodo, Gedit, Netbeans.
[11:30] <diplo> Depends what you want really, but I use any of those 4 on a regular basis
[11:31] <oimon> i have some mhtml files that i have to edit. i'm converting to html and editing them :-\
[11:32] <diplo> On linux ?
[11:33] <oimon> yesh
[11:33] <diplo> Komodo works well for me, not in repos though Komodo Edit, Netbeans is a lot heavier but works well
[11:33] <diplo> Gedit doesn't have auto complete, or doesn't work that well if ti does
[11:34] <oimon> notepad++ is ubuntu?
[11:34] <diplo> Windows, but runs fairly well under wine
[11:34] <oimon> ah
[11:37] <oimon> i just wanna wysiwyg style editor to strip out some guff on the (m)html files
[11:37] <oimon> a bit like the komposer/mozilla used to
[11:38] <diplo> You want to see the page like with dreamweaver whilst editing it you mean ?
[11:43] <oimon> yes
[11:44] <oimon> looks like kompozer is still around
[11:44] <diplo> I've always just handcrafted code
[11:45] <diplo> You can set most of these browsers to have a keybinding to open the page you are working with for your default browser
[11:45] <diplo> I just have a browser open on a local apache install and alt tab / refresh
[11:53] <oimon> unfortunately i am required to edit pages created by some MS crap
[11:53] <oimon> for some tutorials
[11:53] <oimon> quick and dirty
[11:57] <diplo> An:/
[11:57] <oimon> hmm.. i'm buying something on ebay that has cheaper postage when you buy 2 items, buy incorrect postage appears in checkout :-\
[11:58] <oimon> must be something the seller has neglected to do, right
[11:58] <oimon> ?
[11:59] <diplo> Sounds like it, rarely use ebay now adays
[12:10] <oimon> it's an annoying necessity
[13:46] <diplo> Python people, whats the best way of checking a script without it executing
[13:47] <diplo> Just want to check it will execute without errors before customer trys it, just incase any of the cut and paste has screwed anything up
[13:47] <diplo> python -m py_compile script.py <-- Just found that ?
[13:48]  * bigcalm waddles back in
[13:53] <directhex> popey, looks like we have our fir... second i guess given bastion, XNA-based game in the ubuntu app store
[13:59] <christel> BIGCLAM
[13:59] <christel> how is le holiday?
[14:01] <bigcalm> christel: my deer! It is relaxing thanks :)
[14:01] <christel> \o/
[14:02] <bigcalm> How's it down south?
[14:02] <directhex> COVERED IN BEES
[14:03] <gord> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GadTfGFvU ?
[14:03] <diplo> Wet!
[14:04] <davmor2> gord: I thought this when I saw it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs-tl6GBOBo
[14:05] <oimon> directhex, which game's that?
[14:05] <directhex> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/hackwork/
[14:06] <christel> bigcalm: down south is.. good, wet but good :)
[14:16] <oimon> directhex, "Ubuntu One synchronization of save-games and settings" sweet
[14:16] <directhex> oimon, heh, that *is* pretty sweet. it's a must-have feature in steam
[14:16] <oimon> more apps need this
[14:17] <oimon> things seem to be moving apace with ubuntu this year
[14:17] <gord> can't you use sync the folder it saves things to?
[14:17] <oimon> gord, sometimes prone to issues
[14:18] <oimon> e.g. lock files and scared of overwriting data
[14:18] <gord> the very nature of syncronisation means you are always gonna run into problems
[14:18] <oimon> u1 doesn't have version cotnrol yet does it ?
[14:18] <gord> nope
[14:30]  * diplo wants sleep
[14:30] <diplo> Wonder if anyone will notice if i take 30 :)
[14:33] <bigcalm> I'm surprised that my phone hasn't rung with the office number this week
[14:34] <diplo> :P
[14:34] <diplo> I used to worry about that tbh, new job they refuse even if i offer
[14:34] <diplo> So all good
[14:36] <bigcalm> That's the expenses sorted out for our holiday down south. Hayley was a touch surprised. And we get to do it all again in August with oggcamp
[14:40] <davmor2> bigcalm: I wouldn't head down souff for oogcamp dude ;)
[14:40] <bigcalm> davmor2: indeed, might be disappointed
[14:43] <Myrtti> mäh
[14:44] <Myrtti> aquarius: ping
[14:49] <oimon> hope oggcamp will be down south again next year..
[14:49] <aquarius> Myrtti, pong
[14:49] <oimon> will be nice to go again. liverpool is a bit much
[14:50] <bigcalm> Live in the Midlands. Then you get to complain about going in either direction and still go :D
[14:50] <penguin42> oimon: Can't cope with our northern air?
[14:50] <oimon> no, too stinky and far away
[14:51] <oimon> but mostly the far away thing
[14:51] <oimon> farnham was great cos my dad lives there
[14:51] <oimon> and in-laws nearby
[14:51] <oimon> so wiff+sprog get to go with me
[14:52] <Myrtti> aquarius: mind a pm?
[14:52] <aquarius> go for it
[14:53] <aquarius> am I that intimidating that I need be asked? :)
[14:53] <bigcalm> Awww
[14:53] <bigcalm> aquarius: time for a shave maybe?
[14:53] <bigcalm> Humm, I need a shave
[15:02] <Myrtti> aquarius: courtesy stuck from elsewhere
[15:05] <Myrtti> old dog new tricks etc
[16:19] <bigcalm> directhex: would you recommend Dear Esther?
[16:20] <directhex> bigcalm, dunno, it's arthouse nonsense imho, but i've enjoyed arthouse nonsense before (journey on ps3)
[16:20] <bigcalm> :D
[16:20] <bigcalm> What sort of game play is it?
[16:21] <directhex> first person explorer, iirc
[16:21] <bigcalm> Myst?
[16:21] <bigcalm> Ah, Myst3 then
[16:21] <directhex> i guess
[16:21] <bigcalm> Ta
[16:23] <davmor2> bigcalm: BOO!
[16:23] <bigcalm> The Binding of Isaac Collection, Dear Esther, GTA complete package == £11.71
[16:23] <bigcalm> It would be rude not to
[16:23] <bigcalm> davmor2: boing
[16:29] <directhex> bigcalm, well, 11 more sales in half an hour.
[16:29] <directhex> bigcalm, last chance for just cause 2!
[16:30] <bigcalm> directhex: never heard of that
[16:30] <directhex> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1632-Just-Cause-2
[16:30] <bigcalm> The best reviews are from Zero Punctuation :)
[16:35] <bigcalm> \o/
[16:35] <bigcalm> directhex: sold!
[16:35] <bigcalm> You bugger
[16:37] <directhex> bigcalm, or i could link tomy entire game library, ordered by play time: http://steamcommunity.com/id/directhex/games?tab=all
[16:38]  * bigcalm puts directhex on ignore for a little bit
[16:38] <directhex> 11 new sales in 20 mins, people!
[16:39] <bigcalm> directhex: are you on commission?
[16:39] <directhex> bigcalm, i love games!
[16:39] <bigcalm> directhex: that you do :)
[17:10] <jacobw> evening
[17:14] <davmor2> bigcalm: he's on commission I'm with you there :D
[17:51]  * bigcalm zooms out for the evening
[17:52] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: photo time? :)
[17:58]  * jacobw is watching eureka from the syfy channel
[19:01] <MartijnVdS> jacobw: not the comet's tale on bbc4?
[19:02] <jacobw> perhaps i'll fire up the vpn
[19:02] <MartijnVdS> oh yeah
[19:02] <MartijnVdS> you're not in the uk either :)
[19:04]  * jacobw pines for the bbc
[19:04] <MartijnVdS> aww
[19:05]  * MartijnVdS likes that's he's close to the coast (= close to the UK)
[19:05] <jacobw> hehe, freesat?
[19:06] <mattt> feel a bit late to the party, but finally got my raspberry pi :)
[19:12]  * jacobw sneezes on mattt's pi
[19:12] <MartijnVdS> jacobw: yeah
[19:14]  * mattt sneezes on jacobw
[19:23] <jacobw> oi
[19:23]  * daubers drinks his wine and stays out of the little boys fighting again
[19:25] <jacobw> what's the wine daubers?
[19:27] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Ubuntu UK Podcast] S05E11  Freedom Through Disobedience - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2012/07/18/s05e11-freedom-through-disobedience/
[19:28] <popey> oh look!
[19:28]  * mattt sneezes on daubers' wine
[19:28]  * popey runs up to gord 
[19:28] <popey> BARK BARK BARK!
[19:29] <MartijnVdS> yo, dawg
[19:31] <jacobw> yo dwag, i heard you liked some dawg in your dawg, so i put some dawg in your dawg, dwag :)
[19:33] <daubers> jacobw: Umm... some red we were given :)
[19:33] <daubers> Merlot I think
[19:36] <daubers> This must be the cool side of the netsplit, 'cause we got Daviey
[19:37] <MartijnVdS> woo
[19:39] <ahayzen> yey :)
[19:45] <mattt> any of you lot going to the openstack meetup next week?
[19:45] <mattt> (in london)
[19:49] <czajkowski> yup
[19:51]  * christel nibbles on czajkowski 
[19:53] <czajkowski> herrro
[19:53] <czajkowski> christel: you coming up next week?
[19:53] <czajkowski> http://www.meetup.com/Openstack-London/events/55354582/
[19:55] <mattt> czajkowski: nice, be sure to say hi
[19:55] <czajkowski> well it'l be easier for you to come find me and say hi
[19:57] <mattt> dang it
[20:04] <christel> i doubt it, maybe, no promises tho!
[20:27] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] Steam on Ubuntu - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/07/18/steam-on-ubuntu/
[21:37] <pic> hi guys
[21:41] <dwatkins> ello
[22:13] <bigcalm> Ello :)
[22:31] <popey> pip pip
[22:50] <bigcalm> Night night :)
[22:53] <Daviey> daubers: :D
[22:55] <Azelphur> http://blog.cyphermox.net/2012/03/call-for-testing-bluez-a2dp-and-hsphfp.html has anyone ever got this to work?
[22:55] <Azelphur> I want it :(
[23:39] <yothsoggoth> Can anybody recommend which UK Linux magazine is any good?
[23:40] <Azelphur> why do you want to buy dead trees o.O
[23:42] <yothsoggoth> to read?
[23:42]  * yothsoggoth hides from judgment behind a (live) tree
[23:42] <Azelphur> :P
[23:42] <Azelphur> yothsoggoth: I dunno about magazines, generally the place to get info is online.
[23:44] <yothsoggoth> Any particular sites to recommend then? :P. I do often check omgubuntu and planet.(distro)... but I thought magazines might have something more that's worth reading
[23:45] <Azelphur> I'd imagine it's the opposite, the web has much more content available than a dead tree :P
[23:46] <Azelphur> reddit.com/r/linux has good stuff if your ok with community generated content and the occasional question mixed in
[23:48] <yothsoggoth> Yeahh, I just thought that magazines might have some nice tutorials and stuff. reddit seems like a good place to read!