| rick_h_droid | howdy | 00:36 |
|---|---|---|
| gamerchick02 | hey rick_h_droid | 00:37 |
| gamerchick02 | how's it going? | 00:37 |
| rick_h_droid | http://blog.kippt.com/2012/07/17/tags-are-here/ bah...knew i should have taken a year off to hack on bookie | 00:39 |
| rick_h_droid | gamerchiv | 00:39 |
| rick_h_droid | bah | 00:40 |
| rick_h_droid | gamerchick good,setting up, my tablet | 00:40 |
| gamerchick02 | what tablet? | 00:40 |
| gamerchick02 | a Nexus 7? | 00:41 |
| gamerchick02 | if so, i will be insanely jealous | 00:41 |
| rick_h_droid | yea finally arrived | 00:41 |
| gamerchick02 | >_< | 00:41 |
| * gamerchick02 is jealous | 00:41 | |
| rick_h_droid | so getting email irc and such on it | 00:41 |
| * gamerchick02 has no tablet | 00:41 | |
| gamerchick02 | :-D | 00:41 |
| rick_h_droid | well we'll see how owning one goes. | 00:42 |
| rick_h_droid | got it mostly for dev stuff | 00:42 |
| gamerchick02 | ah, dev stuff | 00:42 |
| gamerchick02 | i've been waffling on getting a tablet. maybe next year | 00:42 |
| gamerchick02 | i've spent far too much money recently. new computers, new shirts (though in my defense i needed new shirts for work) | 00:43 |
| rick_h_droid | heh yea pace yourself :-) | 00:44 |
| gamerchick02 | that kippt thing is cool | 00:44 |
| gamerchick02 | i'm stuck in pinboard right now though | 00:44 |
| gamerchick02 | delicious is dead. | 00:45 |
| rick_h_droid | bookie! I've been doing the full contemt | 00:46 |
| rick_h_droid | search since day 1 | 00:46 |
| gamerchick02 | yes! i know | 00:46 |
| rick_h_droid | and tags as search vehicles | 00:46 |
| rick_h_droid | That's why I posted that | 00:46 |
| gamerchick02 | it's brilliant. but your system wasn't as robust as pinboards when i switched from delicious | 00:46 |
| rick_h_droid | Holy crap the speak recognition on this thing is awesome | 00:47 |
| gamerchick02 | nice | 00:47 |
| rick_h_droid | No I understand in that's why I say that I wish I could take a year off to work on it | 00:47 |
| gamerchick02 | i'm still jealous of your awesome new tablet. | 00:47 |
| gamerchick02 | see, i'd use it as an ereader. | 00:47 |
| gamerchick02 | *shrug* | 00:47 |
| rick_h_droid | It's much faster to use the speech thing to type but I feel goofy speaking | 00:47 |
| gamerchick02 | hah | 00:47 |
| gamerchick02 | you're speaking to your tablet. | 00:48 |
| rick_h_droid | Kindle for the win as far as a reader goes | 00:48 |
| gamerchick02 | that's what the boy says | 00:48 |
| rick_h_droid | Yes got the faster speech recognition from jelly bean | 00:48 |
| gamerchick02 | but also i like the idea of having a full android experience | 00:48 |
| gamerchick02 | that's why i wouldn't be opposed to an ipad. full tablet experience. | 00:48 |
| gamerchick02 | ios, but yeah | 00:49 |
| rick_h_droid | yea that's why i got this one for dev | 00:49 |
| gamerchick02 | nice | 00:49 |
| rick_h_droid | That and a cheaper price | 00:49 |
| gamerchick02 | totally | 00:49 |
| gamerchick02 | the ipad is so expensive | 00:49 |
| brousch | And crappy to dev on | 00:50 |
| brousch | And expensive to dev for | 00:50 |
| rick_h_droid | Yeah and then you're into the all apple system you either have it all you have it none | 00:50 |
| gamerchick02 | yeah | 00:51 |
| gamerchick02 | i know | 00:51 |
| gamerchick02 | the air is treating me right though. i paid for an email client. Sparrow is the shit, as far as i'm concerned. | 00:52 |
| gamerchick02 | and it was on sale this past weekend. half off. hah | 00:52 |
| gamerchick02 | but i don't like itunes | 00:52 |
| rick_h_droid | Yes sparrow was a big hit the last year | 00:53 |
| gamerchick02 | i can see why | 00:54 |
| gamerchick02 | i want Geary to support nesting tags and multiple accounts. | 00:54 |
| gamerchick02 | all i need is a simple email client like Sparrow | 00:54 |
| gamerchick02 | Tbird is heavy for what i do | 00:54 |
| gamerchick02 | i'm a gmail… lover. ahem. | 00:54 |
| rick_h_droid | mutt! | 00:55 |
| rick_h_droid | :-P | 00:55 |
| gamerchick02 | does it support tags natively or does it create folders for your tags? | 00:56 |
| gamerchick02 | ok. History Detectives is gonna be on | 00:57 |
| rick_h_droid | no | 00:57 |
| rick_h_droid | have fun | 00:57 |
| gamerchick02 | no? | 00:57 |
| gamerchick02 | mutt? | 00:58 |
| gamerchick02 | no strange imap folders? | 00:58 |
| gamerchick02 | i can muck with mutt tomorrow night. | 00:58 |
| gamerchick02 | i'll be in IRC tomorrow night i'm sure. see you then. or thursday or whatever. :) | 00:58 |
| rick_h_droid | brousch so what are the tablet apps I should have? | 01:01 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Same as phone for me: evernote, dropbox, kindle reader | 01:29 |
| rick_h_droid | yea cool | 01:30 |
| brousch | hootsuite, google reader, gmail | 01:30 |
| brousch | Last I heard BotBrew had not been fixed for JB yet. Something about paths changing | 01:31 |
| brousch | But SL4A should work | 01:31 |
| rick_h_droid | yea default twitter client sucks | 01:32 |
| brousch | I pay for hootsuite since I control a dozen twitter/facebook accounts | 01:32 |
| rick_h_droid | kaiten mail should pass ok | 01:33 |
| rick_h_droid | ugh | 01:37 |
| rick_h_droid | lol it's bookie feature day http://blog.pinboard.in/2012/07/api_authentication_tokens/ | 01:42 |
| rick_h_droid | gah i suck | 01:42 |
| * greg-g waves from the Double Tree hotel in Portland | 01:58 | |
| rick_h_droid | hey greg-g | 02:08 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 11:08 |
| snap-l | Morning | 11:18 |
| snap-l | Hopefully we'll get a nice cold front this morning | 11:18 |
| rick_h_droid | yea, would be nice | 11:24 |
| rick_h_droid | Right now I could use a week just of snow | 11:29 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | ACK SNOW IS A BAD WORD | 11:32 |
| rick_h_ | my sweet and lovely snow! | 11:32 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Were you up all night fondling your 7 incher? | 12:14 |
| snap-l | http://www.mug.org/meetings/ <- Would folks register here if you're planning on coming to MUG in August, and give me some feedback on the process? | 12:14 |
| rick_h_ | no names? | 12:15 |
| snap-l | No, it'll associate you with your contact information if you have some. | 12:16 |
| brousch | The page layout is kind of wonky | 12:16 |
| snap-l | brousch: How so? | 12:16 |
| snap-l | (And yes, there's not enough detain on the page about the meeting) | 12:17 |
| rick_h_ | moved register button to "Regular MUG meeting" | left align the When/Location | reigster page has no title that I'm registering | print icon under "Past meetings link" | landing page after looks nice | 12:17 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: yea, meant lack of speaker name/detail on the first page | 12:17 |
| brousch | On the first page, the When is indented too much and the map | 12:17 |
| brousch | Heh, rick_h_ got all the stuff I noticed | 12:18 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 12:18 |
| snap-l | Most of that is not under my control. :) | 12:18 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix broke it! | 12:19 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 12:19 |
| snap-l | I mean all I have to work with is [civicrm id=...] | 12:19 |
| brousch | Ah | 12:19 |
| brousch | Not much control over styles? | 12:19 |
| snap-l | Not really, though I think part of the problems are related to our theming. | 12:20 |
| snap-l | and how civicrm shims itself into our pages. | 12:20 |
| brousch | I didn't register since I'm not going | 12:20 |
| snap-l | brousch: np | 12:21 |
| snap-l | Thank you for checking it, though | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | <3 this http://sriramk.com/unsolicitedyahoo.html | 12:21 |
| brousch | snap-l: Oh come on now http://www.mug.org/groups/ | 12:21 |
| brousch | At least change it to East Michigan | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 12:22 |
| rick_h_ | poor brousch and his 20 twitter accounts is going to get you | 12:22 |
| snap-l | brousch: We were here before you. :) | 12:22 |
| brousch | Don't make me submit all of these to your curated list http://conga-wm.org/group-list/ | 12:22 |
| snap-l | brousch: I'll be more than happy to make a link to conga. ;) | 12:23 |
| brousch | It's the "Technology Groups in Michigan" I'm objecting to, not the name of MUG | 12:23 |
| snap-l | Updated. Happy now? Sheesh! | 12:24 |
| snap-l | Westies be hatin' | 12:24 |
| brousch | We're being oppressed! | 12:25 |
| snap-l | Yeah, by the van van vander van vander van vans | 12:25 |
| brousch | snap-l: Is that the best list of East MI groups you know of? If so I'll link to it | 12:26 |
| snap-l | brousch: AFAIK | 12:27 |
| rick_h_ | needs to get the new node and lisp groups on there sometime | 12:28 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.meetup.com/DetNode/ and http://lisp.meetup.com/cities/us/mi/detroit/ | 12:29 |
| brousch | Yeah, I just noticed a few missing and defunct groups in my list | 12:29 |
| snap-l | brousch: http://www.mug.org/groups/ | 12:29 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.detroitlambdalounge.com/ sorry better link | 12:29 |
| snap-l | Added a link back to CONGA | 12:29 |
| shakes808 | morning | 12:30 |
| brousch | snap-l: I feel like we're a web ring | 12:31 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 12:31 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 12:31 |
| rick_h_ | shakes808: | 12:31 |
| snap-l | Don't ever speak those words together again | 12:31 |
| rick_h_ | except, put those on one line | 12:31 |
| brousch | eh? | 12:37 |
| Blazeix | snap-l: maybe we can take a look at the register page tonight at chc | 12:37 |
| Blazeix | there shouldn't be very many styles defined by the hosting page | 12:37 |
| Blazeix | so maybe civicrm can be tweaked | 12:37 |
| Blazeix | it looks like they give us a bunch of useful classes/ids | 12:38 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: That would be cool. Thanks! | 12:45 |
| brousch | Ah geez. The Detroit Science Center and the Detroit Children's Museum are both closed. You guys need to get your shit together over there | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | yea, that sucks. The boy loved the children's museum | 13:23 |
| brousch | The science center was frickin awesome | 13:23 |
| snap-l | Are they closed for good, or reorganizing? | 13:34 |
| brousch | They've been closed for about a year, with no new news on their pages | 13:34 |
| widox | the science center was recently purchased (in the past month or so) and the new owner is trying to get it opened back up | 13:36 |
| brousch | widox: Excellent | 13:37 |
| snap-l | brousch: Don't get your hopes up. THere's a wide divide between planning and doing in Detroit. | 13:47 |
| brousch | Dream killer | 13:48 |
| snap-l | Detroit has too many pimps and not enough hoes | 13:49 |
| snap-l | Lots of folks who like to talk big, act big, and get paid big for doing no work | 13:50 |
| jrwren | they ran out of $$$ | 14:05 |
| snap-l | Detroit, or the museums? | 14:05 |
| snap-l | Because it's true on both counts. :) | 14:05 |
| brousch | It was expensive and really busy when we were there | 14:06 |
| jrwren | both | 14:06 |
| Blazeix | rick_h_: did you see this? http://www.detroitlambdalounge.com/events/73705572/ | 14:23 |
| Blazeix | it's the lisp-ish user group, but they're talking about Go. | 14:23 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: no, didn't see that cool | 14:23 |
| rick_h_ | ugh on long CHC night? | 14:24 |
| Blazeix | yeah... i need to increase my number of wednesdays per week | 14:24 |
| Blazeix | too many cool things going on | 14:24 |
| rick_h_ | yea, starting to pick up | 14:25 |
| brousch | Too much awesome, not enough time | 14:26 |
| brousch | Especially if you want to tuck your kid in at night | 14:26 |
| Blazeix | teach your kid Go, bring him to lambda lounge, tuck him in there. | 14:27 |
| brousch | Working on it | 14:28 |
| rick_h_ | http://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/ O M G | 14:33 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: they've taken your favorite method of distributing software to a new level | 14:34 |
| snap-l | Oh that's lovely. | 14:34 |
| snap-l | They're basically removing your old redhat repos and replacing them with Oracle | 14:35 |
| rick_h_ | right "and installing a few required packages" | 14:35 |
| snap-l | Inasmuch <- They fucking used the word insasmuch | 14:36 |
| rick_h_ | lol, I couldn't tell if it was an onion article or not at first lol | 14:36 |
| snap-l | This is crazy | 14:37 |
| rick_h_ | hey, what's not to like? :) | 14:37 |
| snap-l | Well, let me think | 14:38 |
| snap-l | Begins with OR, ends with E, and has ACL in the middle | 14:38 |
| snap-l | What'll be fun is if Oracle changes its mind on the free part, and sends out a package to alter the bargain | 14:39 |
| snap-l | Refresh my memory: is formatting a log message a bad practice? (i.e.: log.info('Formatting in a log message is {mood}'.format(mood=...)) | 16:02 |
| rick_h_ | bad because that function call is made even if you don't have logging at that level | 16:17 |
| rick_h_ | good if you want pretty log messages and don't care about the perf impact | 16:17 |
| snap-l | What's the better way to do it, then? | 16:18 |
| snap-l | And the logging is at info, so perf impact is negligible anyway. :) | 16:19 |
| rick_h_ | I wouldn't worry about it then | 16:19 |
| snap-l | OK | 16:20 |
| snap-l | Thank you. :) | 16:20 |
| rick_h_ | you have my blessing my son | 16:20 |
| * rick_h_ puts down this rosary beadds | 16:20 | |
| snap-l | Thank you, sensei | 16:20 |
| snap-l | DOmo aRIgatou, sensei-san | 16:21 |
| rick_h_ | just don't do it in a million row loop :P | 16:21 |
| snap-l | (whoops) | 16:21 |
| snap-l | ;) | 16:21 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: In this code, that would be the least of the performance hits. ;) | 16:21 |
| rick_h_ | yea, why I'm giving you your answer to the question, but doubt you should worry about it | 16:22 |
| rick_h_ | oh lovely http://www.satechi.net/index.php/faq/ | 16:57 |
| jrwren | put your faq content here, lol | 17:08 |
| rick_h_ | yea, went looking for online versions of the device manuals with no luck | 17:08 |
| snap-l | "Our product so easy to use, you no need manual. Please do the needful to ensure proper operation device" | 17:10 |
| rick_h_ | now I can't believe I don't have a single item small enough to hit a little reset button. No paper == no paperclips any more I guess | 17:11 |
| brousch | hair pin? | 17:11 |
| * brousch snickers | 17:12 | |
| rick_h_ | umm yea...I've got 4 of those in my backpack :P | 17:12 |
| brousch | Oh, you're out and about | 17:12 |
| rick_h_ | yea, at the coffee shop where else? | 17:12 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Do you have a mechanical pencil? | 17:12 |
| brousch | get a stirring stick and break it lengthwise | 17:12 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: not with me no, only pends that wont fit | 17:13 |
| rick_h_ | I was trying a straw folding up with no success | 17:13 |
| snap-l | Ask loudly in the coffee shop if someone has a syringe you could borrow. | 17:13 |
| brousch | yes! | 17:13 |
| snap-l | I'm sure someone will cop to it. | 17:13 |
| snap-l | "It'll only be a minute" | 17:13 |
| brousch | Or go in the alley out back and just pick one up | 17:13 |
| rick_h_ | psh, I'm in clarkston not detroit | 17:13 |
| brousch | One virtue of living in the Tha D | 17:14 |
| snap-l | brousch: Nah, that's unsafe. You might get the AIDS | 17:14 |
| brousch | Drop a glass on the ground. One of the shards will fit | 17:16 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 17:16 |
| brousch | Wow, I just had a business idea. You know how at the airport they confiscate things like knives and such, but some people don't want to just leave them behind. You could setup a service to hang around at TSA checkpoints and mail those items to your home. | 17:18 |
| snap-l | brousch: Right, because the post office has no regulations about firearms or knives. | 17:19 |
| brousch | UPS | 17:19 |
| brousch | Lighters and pocket knives come to mind | 17:19 |
| snap-l | SOmething tells me if it were profitable / plausible, someone would have already done it. | 17:22 |
| brousch | DREAMKILLER | 17:23 |
| snap-l | I'm a pro | 17:24 |
| snap-l | Hey, maybe that's a business | 17:24 |
| rick_h_ | OMG! found a way to run bookmarklets from Chrome on android | 17:24 |
| rick_h_ | oh happy day! | 17:25 |
| snap-l | Pay me $500 to listen to your start-up pitch. Then I can tell you you're an idiot. :) | 17:25 |
| rick_h_ | ah damn readable.bmark.us looks good on the N7 | 17:25 |
| rick_h_ | and yay I can submit to bookie pages from the phone/tablet now. | 17:25 |
| snap-l | I wonder if negativefeedback.com is available | 17:25 |
| snap-l | Damn, already registered | 17:26 |
| brousch | It could work if you can give constructive criticism, not just call them an idiot | 17:26 |
| snap-l | whois yourstartupisstupid.com | 17:26 |
| snap-l | that one is taken too | 17:26 |
| brousch | It's just a placeholder site | 17:27 |
| snap-l | whois yourmomthinksyourstupid.com | 17:27 |
| brousch | You can buy it for $500 | 17:27 |
| snap-l | There we go | 17:27 |
| brousch | wrong your | 17:27 |
| snap-l | Oh, wait, Typo. | 17:27 |
| snap-l | both are free | 17:27 |
| brousch | yostartupsowhack.com | 17:30 |
| snap-l | dorkland: RT @greywulf: I should create a website called Nonstarter where people post their bad ideas and other folks pay them to make sure they never happen. | 17:48 |
| brousch | I think that was in a web comic | 17:50 |
| rick_h_ | ah gary https://twitter.com/garybernhardt/status/225649253966561280 | 17:53 |
| snap-l | Sometimes I think Gary posts things just to be controversial | 17:54 |
| rick_h_ | oh yea | 17:54 |
| rick_h_ | the front of the line of trolls not to feed | 17:54 |
| brousch | I was talking to Dave about Mongo since SF uses it for all data in Allura | 17:55 |
| rick_h_ | heh yea and I've heard some good/bad stories | 17:55 |
| brousch | He seemed to have missed all of the Mongo loses data quips | 17:55 |
| snap-l | brousch: He had a good operations team | 17:55 |
| rick_h_ | nice thing is that they were using it initially for Views/collections of information available so losses were just 'rebuild the view' | 17:55 |
| brousch | He said it's been very good. No problems over a couple of years | 17:56 |
| snap-l | brousch: It may have been better, but initially it was pretty fast and loose with data | 17:56 |
| snap-l | it's very easy to set MOngo up so it will fuck you, hard. | 17:56 |
| rick_h_ | yea, don't setup 8 servers :) | 17:57 |
| snap-l | Mongo always felt like they were playing fast and loose with the data | 17:58 |
| snap-l | "live fast, play hard, and leave an exquisite corpse" | 17:58 |
| brousch | Bah, data is cheap. Just make some more if you lose it | 17:58 |
| snap-l | Well, they started using it as the point of record. That's when things got interesting. | 17:59 |
| derekv | leaving a corpse is not enviromentally friendly. unless you leave it somewhere nobody can get their hands on it and fill it with chemicals. | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | ummm, ok that's interesting | 18:24 |
| snap-l | Good to know? :) | 18:28 |
| rick_h_71 | http://db.tt/s8uA7KVx sweet it works! | 18:28 |
| snap-l | What is that? | 18:29 |
| snap-l | Bluetooth speaker? | 18:29 |
| rick_h_71 | Bluetooth speaker for the n7 | 18:29 |
| snap-l | (Squeezebox. ;) ) | 18:29 |
| snap-l | Get Squeeze Player and Squeeze Controller on that bad boy | 18:29 |
| rick_h_71 | Did not know that I could pipe my tablet youtube watching over to the squeezebox | 18:30 |
| rick_h_71 | or movies etc | 18:30 |
| rick_h_71 | I've got the controller | 18:30 |
| snap-l | IF you don't mind piping just the audio, it'll work fine. :) | 18:30 |
| snap-l | I see ESPN Radion on there. :) | 18:30 |
| snap-l | It won't do video, though | 18:31 |
| snap-l | but if you want to use the N7 like a walkman, it'll work nicely with Squeeze Player | 18:31 |
| snap-l | http://www.squeezeplayer.com/ | 18:32 |
| rick_h_ | well it's a podcast I was playing to test with | 18:33 |
| rick_h_ | but cool, will try it out | 18:33 |
| snap-l | It's how I use my phone with the Squeezebox if I don't want to disturb folks | 18:34 |
| rick_h_ | well the thing is to play content on there with a better speaker that's still portable and wireless | 18:35 |
| snap-l | Yeah, that's fine | 18:35 |
| snap-l | I'm not saying don't do it that way. I'm saying you can incorporate teh Squeezebox onto the tablet. :) | 18:35 |
| snap-l | Apparently Squeezebox is my new GTD> ;) | 18:36 |
| rick_h_ | yea, for me the only thing the squeezebox plays is hte streaming radio stuff and pandora for the boy | 18:36 |
| snap-l | Expand your horizons | 18:37 |
| snap-l | Don't make me have to schedule a demo | 18:38 |
| rick_h_ | so hmm, squeeze player let's me play on the tablet, but I'd want to push to the squeezebox since it has the speaker on it | 18:38 |
| rick_h_ | I must be missing how I need to use this. If I could push my google music streaming to the squeezebox that'd be cool | 18:38 |
| rick_h_ | but the squeezebox has very little content on its own | 18:38 |
| snap-l | It has to start from the server to the remote device | 18:39 |
| snap-l | So the server would have to know about what's on the Google music service | 18:39 |
| snap-l | I don't think that's set up yet. | 18:39 |
| rick_h_ | right, the squeezebox is mostly just an extra speaker that can play streaming radio/pandora or I've got ot wire it in | 18:40 |
| snap-l | They're "working on it" but for now it's not possible. | 18:40 |
| snap-l | Ideally, you'd have teh SB have access to the local files that you put into Google PLay | 18:40 |
| snap-l | and have it serve that way | 18:40 |
| rick_h_ | right, but they only exist ona backup drive some where | 18:40 |
| rick_h_ | I moved all my stuff to google music so I didn't need the local files to move around | 18:41 |
| rick_h_ | just use google music on phone/laptop/tablet | 18:41 |
| rick_h_ | and the portable BT speaker helps that work better across the house | 18:41 |
| snap-l | Right | 18:41 |
| snap-l | All of my stuff is local on my home machine | 18:42 |
| brousch | Get a home server | 18:42 |
| snap-l | so I use Squeezebox to serve it out throughout the house / to work. | 18:42 |
| rick_h_ | I'm the opposite | 18:42 |
| rick_h_ | ok, I just want to make sure I'm not missing some way I can use the SB | 18:42 |
| rick_h_ | sounds like not at the moment | 18:42 |
| snap-l | Well, you can use the SB player to route what you'd normally play from the SB server to your tablet | 18:42 |
| snap-l | or to use the Squeezebox controller app to control the Radio or vice versa | 18:43 |
| snap-l | but that's about it. | 18:43 |
| snap-l | (i.e.: I can use the phone to control all of the connected Squeezebox devices in the house) | 18:43 |
| rick_h_ | right, I've got the SB remote on here for that part | 18:44 |
| snap-l | THe Player means you can use it as a receiver. | 18:44 |
| snap-l | The only locker they support is mp3tunes | 18:47 |
| snap-l | http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?13622-iPhone <- Wow, look at this guy's sig | 18:48 |
| snap-l | THat's hardcore | 18:49 |
| snap-l | Got another Ting phone for my FIL | 19:43 |
| jjesse | you like TING? | 19:44 |
| snap-l | hopefully it'll replace the Tracfone he's been using | 19:44 |
| snap-l | Yep | 19:44 |
| jjesse | i think it is sprint right? | 19:44 |
| snap-l | It is sprint | 19:44 |
| snap-l | So if Sprint sucks in your area, it'll still suck | 19:44 |
| snap-l | but not as hard. | 19:45 |
| snap-l | Thing is, he barely uses the phone save for emergencies | 19:46 |
| snap-l | and he has a LG phone that's a piece of crap | 19:46 |
| snap-l | and I HATE HATE HATE Tracfone | 19:46 |
| snap-l | I want nothing more to do with them | 19:46 |
| snap-l | so I can combine his phone bill (aka 3 month expiration bullshit from Trafone) into my Ting phone bill | 19:47 |
| snap-l | he uses the same minutes, same text messaging, data, etc. | 19:47 |
| jjesse | did you have to break a contract or did you just wait until your contract was up? | 19:48 |
| jjesse | because that's my issue right now | 19:48 |
| snap-l | I didn't have a contract (was using tracfone prior) | 19:48 |
| jjesse | i'm locked in until december of 2013 | 19:48 |
| jjesse | i think | 19:48 |
| snap-l | They had a sweepstakes for paying contract breaking fees. | 19:48 |
| snap-l | but that's past | 19:48 |
| snap-l | Are you already with Sprint? | 19:49 |
| jjesse | nope vzw | 19:49 |
| snap-l | You might want to check to see how much the termination gfee might ve. | 19:53 |
| snap-l | be, even | 19:53 |
| snap-l | I'v egot someone coming out Friday. | 20:26 |
| snap-l | Hopefully it won't be another dance of the "well, you have great signal strength" | 20:26 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I have great signal strength, except when I don't. | 20:27 |
| derekv | You have the signal strength of ten men! | 20:30 |
| devinheitmueller | Signal strength and signal quality are two entirely different metrics. | 20:31 |
| derekv | SNR | 20:32 |
| devinheitmueller | Indeed. | 20:32 |
| snap-l | WEll, their bullshit strength is at max capacity | 20:32 |
| snap-l | Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out | 20:34 |
| derekv | You may want to upgrade : http://www.atarimagazines.com/compute/issue156/S2_How_to_upgrade_your_.php | 20:34 |
| devinheitmueller | Wow, I remember Compute! | 20:34 |
| snap-l | I <3 computer | 20:34 |
| snap-l | Compute, even. :) | 20:34 |
| derekv | You know its not an actual disadvantage, but for some reason it griefs me that I can't just have a function in Java, its got to go in a class. | 20:37 |
| derekv | DoSomething.doItNow() | 20:38 |
| derekv | I feel like if I'm creating a Class, its because I have some objects I want to create, and if I want to create objects, its so I can store some state. | 20:39 |
| derekv | Math.addTwoNumbers(a,b) is retarded | 20:39 |
| derekv | Actions.kick(); Actions.stab(); | 20:42 |
| derekv | maybe there's something wrong with the way I'm thinking. | 20:44 |
| snap-l | No, it's just that Java is idiotic about how it handles objects | 20:48 |
| snap-l | What the hell is with pep8 and this bullshit under/over indenting for visual indent | 20:58 |
| derekv | AbstractMockDelegateFascadeFactoryFactory.createAbstractMockDelegateFascadeFactory().createDefaultMockDelegateFacade().toString(). | 20:58 |
| _stink_ | now cast it to String :P | 20:59 |
| snap-l | Makes me positively pine for hungarian notation | 21:00 |
| snap-l | Fuck | 21:09 |
| rick_h_71 | snap-l what has pep8 got you annoyed over now? | 21:19 |
| snap-l | main.py|253 col 13| E127 continuation line over-indented for visual indent | 21:19 |
| snap-l | I have hundreds of these fucking things | 21:19 |
| snap-l | over-indented, under-indented | 21:20 |
| snap-l | frankly, I don't give a flying fuck what pep8 thinks of that indenting, it's what vim defaults to | 21:20 |
| rick_h_71 | so...sounds like some dupe code to refactor into a few indented properly? | 21:20 |
| rick_h_71 | lol | 21:21 |
| snap-l | Oh fuck me | 21:21 |
| snap-l | I'm doing the indenting to get around pep8's idiotic 80 colum limit | 21:21 |
| snap-l | tired of danicing for PEP8s amusement | 21:22 |
| rick_h_71 | dude seriously, once you get over that hurdle it all better. | 21:22 |
| snap-l | WHAT HURDLE? | 21:22 |
| snap-l | Why is it even bitching about second-line indents in the first place? | 21:23 |
| snap-l | THis is what VIM indents to | 21:23 |
| snap-l | I'm not going to fight vim just to please pep8's idiotic indenting | 21:23 |
| snap-l | There's no pleasing this piece of shit | 21:32 |
| snap-l | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/KlRYQUY0aBZt7Q5uNcfB/ | 21:34 |
| snap-l | OK, how am I supposed to make this pep8-worthy | 21:34 |
| snap-l | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/738/ or this | 21:35 |
| brousch | Darn django staticfiles had me scratching my head again | 21:37 |
| rick_h_71 | snapl just indent 4? | 21:41 |
| rick_h_71 | https://github.com/mitechie/breadability/blob/master/src/breadability/client.py | 21:42 |
| rick_h_71 | snap-l ^ | 21:43 |
| jrwren | snap-l: write a pep8ifier | 22:25 |
| jrwren | i mean really, if a tool an complain about hte whitespace, it can FIX the fucking whitespace already!!!!! | 22:26 |
| derekv | its weds already | 22:38 |
| rick_h_droid | ugh crazy lady is in the room. | 23:26 |
| * rick_h_droid crosses fingers she bails | 23:26 | |
| derekv | ? | 23:27 |
| rick_h_droid | oh heh...we had a crazy lady episode with the room before | 23:32 |
| derekv | Tell her that everyone in the weekly Voodoo Curses Club really hates it if things get delayed. | 23:34 |
| derekv | Todays meeting is important because we'll be selecting new "study subjects" | 23:35 |
| rick_h_droid | lol | 23:36 |
| rick_h_droid | I'll give it a try | 23:36 |
| rick_h_droid | Ok updated keyboard so sweet | 23:42 |
| rick_h_droid | and split ftw bwuhahahaha | 23:43 |
| snap-l | Ugh, split keyboard too? | 23:43 |
| rick_h_droid | in landscape mode | 23:43 |
| snap-l | Ah, OK | 23:44 |
| snap-l | THat makes a little more sense. | 23:44 |
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