[05:40] good morning [06:04] morning ZA [06:04] stupid question... how do I easily download the whole folder "meetbot" from here - http://anonscm.debian.org/darcs/collab-maint/ [06:09] yo kbmonkey [06:09] not_found finds out about darcs [06:09] wb Kilos [06:09] hi not_found and others [06:09] wb kbmonkey [06:10] ty not_found had funny issue with pc not seeing modem [06:10] needs glasses? [06:10] plug in to other port and it works [06:10] hahaha [06:11] also tried 12.04 server on p3 says it needs a x86 cpu not i 686 [06:11] so dunno how the fly got it going onna p2 [06:12] oh the monkey gone [06:12] custom kernel perhaps [06:13] unless it accepts when doing upgrading [06:13] from one release to next i mean [06:14] possible [06:14] oom_koos, did you get fixed up [06:14] yo nuvolari [06:14] followers growning slowly on the twit place [06:15] growing === not_found is now known as nlsthzn [06:15] hi Kilos, fixed up what? too many broken things here hehe [06:15] hahaha that bad connection. you dont seem to be in and out all the time anymore [06:17] well telkom just sent me another sms saying service is restored. will have to test. been using our backup dsl line for the last two days. we had good connection on monday but yesterday was horrible so we switched for the time [06:17] ah [06:17] i'm getting gatval of dealing with telkom... [06:17] *gatvol [06:18] hehe everyone complains [06:18] even vodacom [06:19] yeah customer service in sa is like the lowest priority ever. especially with the big corps [06:20] i work in IT every day and thus get to deal alot with call centres and such. from personal experiance the best company regarding call centres and customer service is MWEB. those guys seem to be on top of it [06:24] eskom decided we need a quick power cut === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [06:25] * nlsthzn has his first bot up and running in IRC land :) [06:27] yay nlsthzn ibid bot? [06:28] ibid? === nlsthzn is now known as not_found [06:31] aw nlyou dunno about ibid [06:31] hiya maiatoday [06:31] Kilos, I am sure I was told but I can't remember now [06:31] anyway I got supybot installed and got the MeetBot plugin working... [06:32] our friend maaz is an ibid [06:32] hi Kilos not_found [06:32] I would love to get it to do the "my name is XXXX" identifying too :) [06:32] morning maiatoday [06:35] * inetpro sent a message to our channel founder [highvoltage] to set a welcome message for our channel [06:35] well done inetpro and morning to you [06:36] you wet the bed or what [06:36] something like the one you get when you join #kubuntu-devel [06:36] 18/07 04:47:55 [ChanServ] Welcome to #kubuntu-devel. This channel is logged. Use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService [06:36] heh Kilos [06:38] inetpro, where is the spark? [06:38] Kilos: he's still alive and kicking in other channels [06:38] sjoe whats with the apartheid [06:39] noticed him talking in the above mentioned channel the other day [06:39] but he's mostly active in #edubuntu [06:39] at least last time I checked... long ago though [06:40] at least he hasnt faded completely like corrie [06:40] yeah, the man has become a twitteratti [06:41] strange how peeps minds work [06:41] must be because they dont seem to have a code of conduct [06:41] anything goes [06:42] well I don't blame highvoltage, he's a busy man [06:42] not him corrie [06:42] you can't focus on to many things [06:43] but even corrie seems to be busy [06:43] hehe finding links to tweet [06:45] well staying up to date is also important these days, at least he's sharing stuff with others [06:45] * not_found has a Corrie on G+ ... wonder if it is the same person... [06:45] corrie206 [06:46] corrie206=Corrie Strydom [06:46] dunno... a Corrie Strydom (in my FOSS circle...) [06:46] ah there we go :) [06:46] yes thats him [06:46] not_found: he used to come here often as well [06:47] I have several peeps in a FOSS and an ubuntu-za channel I don't know [06:47] he lived here like me [06:47] I remeber the user name [06:47] :) [06:47] got me my first repos from the pta varsity [06:47] I have several peeps in a FOSS and an ubuntu-za circles I don't know [06:47] the pro did the ubuntu-za [06:48] before i forget we got no power tomorrow so miss me if you like [06:48] haha [06:51] not_found: so am I right in assuming that the reporting has been done? [06:52] inetpro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/12/July added this yesterday... [06:53] not_found: great! [06:53] thanks for that [06:53] still have to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/ which seems behind [06:53] inetpro, np... [06:53] good morning all [06:54] morning Maaz [06:54] :/ [06:54] morning magespawn [06:54] lol [06:54] hiya magespawn [06:55] hey Kilos, not_found [06:55] hehe that tap complete can catch one [06:55] hmmm... to many tabs open in chrome... 1.5gb memory used (and difficult to find the page you are looking for) [06:56] whew [06:59] not_found: we used to use that for our agendas [07:00] and guys have decided that the new way is better [07:00] so I'm not sure whether it's even necessary to update those [07:00] inetpro, so this isn't in use anymore? What is the new way? [07:01] not_found: the pages at http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za [07:02] * inetpro hates the fact that it's not like a wiki but can live with it [07:02] apparently the officials are more inclined to look at those to see LoCo activity [07:03] makes sense in a way... wiki is good but not for everything [07:03] who updates the info on these pages? [07:03] hmm... wiki is very flexible and fully changed controlled [07:03] gonna just try modem in another port, maybe its my usb bridge thats weakening my connection [07:06] oh my [07:06] not_found: I think Team Admins have more privileges than others [07:06] but for something like meetings and events anyone with a launchpad account, I think [07:07] * not_found goes to log in to see [07:07] correct inetpro ... can add meetings and events... cool [07:07] so this is the agenda side.. and the wiki is the minutes side :) [07:08] eish inetpro ek baklei met voda vir weke al maar lyk my dis my brug wat foutief is [07:08] not_found: yep [07:08] Kilos, only way to make sure is to use on another machine for some time (in the same area) [07:09] i moved modem to front usb port on pc twice this morning and bot times strong signal [07:10] poor vodacom [07:11] hey magespawn all good [07:12] ? === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Ubuntu South Africa http://ubuntu-za.org || MMList: http://bit.ly/MCOujZ || PBin: http://paste.ubuntu.com || Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com || Next Meeting: Mon, 20 Aug 19:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/LqWDYY || Twitter: https://twitter.com/ubuntuza [07:15] inetpro, thank the spark for us [07:15] and stuur groete [07:15] Kilos-: why? [07:15] * inetpro just changed the topic [07:15] topic changed isnt it [07:16] oh you? [07:16] :-) [07:16] well done fella [07:16] oh its the greeting he gotta change [07:16] Kilos-: yep [07:17] can't maaz do auto greetings| [07:17] ? [07:17] Kilos-: you can change it on yours [07:18] * Kilos- forgot how, too much ibid inna nut [07:19] not_found, we waiting for the monkey to remember to bring us a script so maaz will greet all newcomers here [07:19] Kilos-: /chanserv SET ##kilos ENTRYMSG Welcome to ##kilos .... [07:19] ty inetpro [07:20] lol dunno what to say anymore [07:24] German is a funny language... water is gender neutral, but apple isn't... [07:25] lol [07:25] hit him pro [07:26] Das, der, die... makes my head spin :) [07:27] not_found: it's just soemthing you have to learn and get used to [07:27] I know it's confusing [07:28] :) makes me get bad scores on duolingo... but I will keep at it until I have mastered it :) [07:28] in fact I'd like to see those rules [07:29] * inetpro has forgotten many of them since school days [07:29] ... and why is newspaper feminine... aarrrggghhhh [07:30] because they fulla [07:30] lol [07:32] then there's stuff like ich, du, er, sie, es, wir, ihr, Sie, sie [07:32] morning superfly [07:32] hi Kilos- [07:32] we getting nervous yet superfly ? [07:32] Kilos-: not when you have a migraine [07:33] * magespawn waves Hi to the Fly [07:33] eish [07:35] hi magespawn :-) [07:35] Die Frau trinkt das Wasser :D [07:35] \o/ [07:35] Ich lerne (I think) [07:36] not_found: we had to learn that stuff like a parrot at school [07:36] * not_found needs to allocate more time to this daily for it to really have any effect :/ [07:36] inetpro, ouch [07:37] and stuff like Accusative, Dative, Genitive and then Accusative or Dative [07:37] * not_found doesn't like the sound of that [07:38] not_found: what do you use as your guide? [07:38] * inetpro just checked http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_grammar [07:39] inetpro, I see now that those things you are speaking of are in the notes I have been ignoring :p - www.duolingo.com [07:41] not_found: nice! Thanks for that. [07:42] * inetpro will have to look at this in the evening [07:42] oh cool... hope it helps... I think the idea is brilliant (time will tell if it works) [07:47] inetpro, what you know about @abigdeal on twitter [07:48] latest follower we got [07:50] sounds like one of those spammy types [07:51] well i dont follow so dont get her tweets [07:51] the mail said her husband is a linux fanatic [07:52] hehe [07:52] husband¤ infosec noob¤ linux fanatic ¤thinker¤ blogger¤ i am that guy that pokes at everything to see what happens¤ love my Ford Focus [07:52] more twits [07:56] i go move sheep [07:56] bbl [08:05] * not_found goes to play some games :D [08:06] Kilos-: just ignore them all [08:06] good to be off [08:06] exit [08:06] ... [08:06] not_found: did you hear that Steam is coming ot Linux? [08:06] :p [08:06] superfly, yup :) [08:06] then it only needs proper gfx drivers etc. [08:06] until then I reboot to Windows... bbl [08:11] superfly i seem to have messed up my grub, how do i know which is the correct entry for my internal hard drive? [08:13] magespawn: uh [08:13] lol [08:14] i thinkl i did something wrong, it keeps looking for an external drive to boot from. I have done this before I think. [08:14] magespawn: can you explain the bootup process to me, so that I know what you're looking at? [08:15] switch on, come to os choice ubuntu or recovery, choose ubuntu, get loading screen, with a message at the bottom /media/choppy is not ready or not present [08:16] ah [08:16] bbiab - standup meeting [08:16] no worries [08:17] standup meeting? [08:18] is that what a team meeting is called these days? [08:18] I think it is a meeting that happens quickly. [08:18] so nobody needs to sit. [08:19] interesting [08:19] makes sense [08:19] just guessing [08:37] yip i do superfly never fear . [08:39] magespawn, boot-repair it from cd [08:39] or even command line. [08:44] I tried that Kilos, but it says the grub is fine. [08:44] oh my [08:46] ag it is a pain but nothing serious, I can a fresh install if need be. Nothing serious is on the machine itself. [08:46] what is /media/choppy? [08:46] the external drive [08:46] what is/was choppy thats missing now [08:47] it is not connected to the laptop [08:47] did you do a boot-repair from choppy [08:47] so now it wants to boot from choppy [08:49] first what is on choppy? [08:51] i had a similar prob after doing a boot-repair from one drive then taking that drive out [08:51] it couldnt boot from the repaired one [08:52] the answer was to boot-repair again from another drive then reboot and go to the drive you want working and start boot repair [08:53] once going unplug the power from the working drive so it can only repair the one thats not working [08:53] magespawn, ^^ [08:54] choppy is the external drive. [08:55] the one I did the recovery from. [08:56] do you have another internal thats bootable with boot-repair on [08:56] I have rescue remix bootable dvd with it on. [08:57] i dunno that [08:58] just loads ubuntu from a disk instead of a hard drive, like using a live cd to try ubuntu, this remix has boot-repair installed, where the nomal cd does not. [08:58] ah [09:16] I have to go out bbl [09:18] go well magespawn [09:24] bbl gonna play with usb bridge [10:26] definitely the usb bridge not_found [10:26] hello [10:26] * Kilos wonders if they can be corrupted somehow [10:26] hi Squirm [10:28] Kilos, that sucks... [10:28] still works with sticks but cant see bluetooth dongles or my ext4 external [10:29] havent tried them on it before [10:30] i wonder if ubuntu has any software running to see a bridge [10:30] maybe thats corrupt [10:41] it should be a kernel driver [10:41] * not_found has to go check his lpci manual for some commands to see usb thingies [10:41] lol [10:42] Kilos: bridge? [10:42] it works but just poorly with the modem otherwise seems ok [10:42] yip from one to 4 usb ports Squirm [10:45] ah, so it is an external device... not internal [10:46] nope its a plugin bridge [10:47] i think thats what they are called [10:47] hi cvo [10:47] oh nick change [10:51] Kilos, I haven't found many that works well even in Windows... seems the power distribution gets thin from them and not all devices play nice [10:51] ah ty not_found [10:52] mine at least went well for over a year [10:52] not saying that is the case... try and plug as much as possible directly into the USB's of the machine when possible [10:52] and was the cheapest one i could find at the time [10:53] cheap from China... never the best bet in the long run [10:54] lol at the time i didnt even know what a usb bridge was [10:54] I stil dont' :D [10:57] haha its a usb cable 1/2 a metre long with a flat square block at one end with four usb ports in [10:57] handy for lappys with only 2 usb ports [10:57] I got two of those... [10:58] USB bridge eh? Who would have thought Lp [10:59] rofl [11:03] just now you can say like i do [11:03] im not as look as dumb i be [11:04] on the packet it says usb 4 port hub [11:04] maybe it isnt a bridge after all [11:07] hub sounds more right :) [13:06] good afternoon all [13:21] hi charl [13:30] hi inetpro [13:30] ah i mean hi Kilos :) [13:30] hehe [13:30] missed the K key and then hit tab [13:31] yikes! [13:31] hi charl [13:31] thanks for waking me up [13:33] lol [13:33] hi inetpro, how's it going [13:34] pretty good if he is sleeping [13:50] i go fetch sheep === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [15:29] Kilos: great! [15:30] highvoltage has set our greeting message [15:30] lovely [15:30] did you send my regards [15:30] you'll see it only when you part and join again [15:31] you forgot hey? [15:31] heh, I'll answer him in a few minutes, will tell him [15:31] anyway... [15:31] * inetpro wbb [15:34] ty for letting me know [16:16] ah [16:32] hell all [16:32] sorry hey all [16:33] hi magespawn [16:34] i have to go home now just got back to the shop now, see y'all later. [16:34] later magespawn [17:08] good afternoon [17:10] perhaps [17:10] :p [17:12] Maaz: coffee on [17:12] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [17:13] better make that a fine grind or otherwise i give you another dent... :P [17:16] Coffee's ready for charl! [17:22] about time [17:22] Maaz: thanks [17:22] charl: Okay :-) [17:22] Maaz: botsnack [17:22] Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well [17:23] Maaz: where can i find the minutes of the last meeting? [17:23] charl: Erk, dunno [17:24] * not_found knows where [17:24] not_found: now, don't keep us waiting :) [17:25] but I forgot :p [17:25] give me a sec... [17:25] :D [17:25] sigh [17:25] too late for coffee [17:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/12/July [17:26] not_found: thanks [17:26] Kilos: hi! [17:26] np [17:27] hi charl not_found [17:27] alo uncle Kilos [17:34] yo Cantide [17:34] is anyone else having mic trouble? my mic worked yesterday, today it will not work :'( [17:34] hello '-' [17:40] Cantide: nope, no issues like that [17:41] ^^;; [17:41] my bad luck [17:41] if i look at system settings it seems fine [17:41] but in pavaudio, it 'freezes' [17:42] -_- pulse audio is a solution looking for a problem [17:42] it is >_> [17:42] i needed it for something [17:42] so i installed it [17:42] and had no trouble with it for a few months [17:43] suddenly today it is broken [17:43] not sure if an update was installed or not.. [17:44] running apt-get update now.. [17:44] maybe that will help ._. [17:45] Kilos, how have you been? [17:45] well ty Cantide and you? [17:45] you been scarce hey [17:45] i'm okay :) [17:45] yeah [17:45] final year of UNISA [17:45] plus work [17:45] so kinda busy :'( [17:46] you should still find a bit of time to visit man [17:46] yeah :) [17:46] if i have time for Skype, i have time for irc [17:46] i'm a slacker :p [17:46] you got me :p [17:47] and try attend our monthly meetings on the third monday of each month [17:47] hehe [17:47] oh [17:47] where are they held? [17:47] Actually superfly, I find the problem is Ubuntu's implementation of Pulse Audio that's the problem rather than inherently Pulse Audio itself [17:47] 19.30 [17:47] oh, online? [17:47] here [17:48] i realised that after i asked :) [17:48] ha ha ha [17:49] so hows the studies going? [17:49] so-so :p [17:49] passed everything last semester [17:49] but not well -.- [17:49] a pass is a pass, i guess [17:49] what have you been up to? [17:49] thats nice to hear then i dont mind chatting to you [17:49] hehe [17:50] haha [17:50] maybe less skype more irc and studies [17:50] 5 months then years gone [17:50] yeah [17:51] once studies are done, some big changes that i'm looking forward to will take place :) [17:51] so i need to focus [17:51] what have you been up to? >_> [17:54] Evening all [17:55] hi '-' [18:02] same old same old [18:02] Hi Cantide [18:02] Hey Kilos [18:02] if you know anyone travelling from durbs to pretoria give us a shout please [18:02] Thought for a second I was in the wrongs place. [18:02] gotta pc that needs a lift [18:02] Will do [18:02] hi magespawn [18:03] Kilos, I know no one in PTA :< [18:03] Saw that on the lists. [18:03] so i never hear of anyone going there :< [18:03] did you have a good day magespawn [18:04] boot prob fixed? [18:04] Busy and spent the second half in the game reserve [18:04] No did not even have time to try again after I spoke to you guys. === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [18:06] superfly seemed to known what that message meant. [18:07] * superfly has burning ears [18:07] hehe [18:07] I think the grub is just trying to boot the wrong drive. [18:07] Lol [18:07] magespawn, did you format that drive [18:07] thats the 1TB hey [18:08] Yes got everything that we could off then formatted it. [18:08] good im sure there was a virus on it [18:08] charl: heh, I only realised now that you came into the meeting only to sign the attendance register and then left [18:09] member next one, once win can see the thing run virus malware scans [18:09] good evening everybody [18:09] lo inetpro [18:09] I think so, there was a folder called Recycler, I have come across that one before. [18:09] Hi inetpro [18:09] thats their dusbin [18:09] trashcan [18:10] sometimes got funny stuff in there [18:10] and some virii seem to jump out the trashcan and go hide as a file somewhere else [18:10] long number files [18:10] No the windows one is called recycle or recycle bin not recycler [18:11] ah [18:13] You would usually find an .ini file in the same drive which points to the odd files or folders.# [18:13] magespawn: are you able to boot at all? === Kanchi is now known as Cantide [18:15] inetpro: lol, i didn 't leave though, i was in here for the whole meeting [18:15] i didn't say much though [18:15] It gets to the os choice menu where you choose between ubuntu and recovery, then it hangs at the loading screen with that message [18:17] charl: hmmm... you didn't say much? [18:17] did you say anything? [18:18] but charl, you are forgiven [18:18] I know that you were studying [18:19] hi kan [18:20] ah [18:21] :) [18:21] :P [18:21] i'll make up for it next meeting! [18:21] charl: np [18:22] charl: so what you proposing for next meeting? [18:24] projects! we need projects [18:24] i am quite interested to take up the work i was doing with the debian privacy remix i was working on [18:24] but then do it in ubuntu [18:25] privacy is important [18:26] don't know if that entirely falls into the "official" ubuntu loco picture though [18:27] privacy? [18:30] hey guys is there a way to tell ubuntu before it starts installing that the screen is small [18:30] i just get flashing lines across the screen [18:30] ouch [18:30] lol [18:30] i don't think pavaudio is the problem [18:30] it freezes even in the system sound settings :< [18:30] Cantide, cant you make it use alsa [18:31] Kilos: maybe try the alternate install? [18:31] with the text installer [18:31] umm, how? [18:31] it's been working on pulse audio though [18:31] dont have the alternate [18:31] for a long tmie [18:31] time * [18:31] so i don't know why it broke :< [18:31] yeah there are the odd probs with pulse [18:31] i have had mine crash as well [18:31] It gets to the os choice menu where you choose between ubuntu and recovery, then it hangs at the loading screen with that message [18:32] superfly^^ [18:32] i used to hack xorg.conf but now the configuration works differently [18:32] is there a way i can flush it? [18:32] charl: keep talking, someone might just listen [18:32] i tried rebooting, no luck [18:32] not sure how that would work on a live cd in any case [18:32] magespawn, can you not get to cli before it gets to that screen [18:32] Did not try. [18:32] then run boot-repair from there [18:33] charl: you know what would make me really happy? [18:33] you keep hitting some key but i forgot which one [18:33] I did boot from the rescue remix and did boot repair from there. [18:33] inetpro: please say! [18:33] if we could find something that could provide an income for our main man in this channel [18:34] i think you gotta do it from your drive magespawn not a cd [18:34] yeah [18:34] if using cd you gotta mount the drive first [18:34] Maybe i missed that, thought the drive was mounted. [18:35] * magespawn goes to get the laptop [18:35] lemme look if i can find it magespawn had a file saved somewhere that explains nicely how to boot from cd then mount then run commands [18:38] magespawn, what release is it [18:39] 10.04 [18:39] ah [18:40] Okay c is the button to get to grub command line [18:41] there you go [18:41] no [18:41] grub cli is another thing [18:41] i have those commands too somewhere [18:41] wb not_found [18:41] thanks uncle Kilos [18:42] i even got a grub2 iso here [18:43] Hold brb [18:43] Got to go get invoice for wife [18:43] k [18:45] inetpro, what keys you use when booting to get to a terminal interface [18:45] not alt f1 or something [18:46] or lotsa spaces [18:46] before gui loads [18:47] Kilos: hmm... [18:47] depends [18:47] systems differ [18:47] on what [18:47] 10.04 [18:47] oh hang on [18:47] ctrl+alt+f1 [18:47] I thought you want BIOS keys [18:48] i have saved files all over the place and sukkel to find the right one every time [18:48] no [18:48] past bios then boot into cli [18:48] not the ubuntu grub menu [18:49] before the grub menu [18:49] Back [18:49] we still hunting magespawn [18:50] No worries, [18:51] Trying the rescume remix again [18:51] methinks your grubconf is corrupted [18:52] magespawn, [18:53] Yes Kilos [18:53] try holding down the shift key before grub menu comes up [18:53] is it your lappy thats sick [18:54] Busy booting from the cd at the moment, yes [18:54] Kilos: wow!, before the grub menu? [18:54] yeah inetpro cant remember if it works [18:55] this was all back in lucid days i think [18:55] hold down the SHIFT key as the computer attempts to boot to display the GRUB 2 menu. [18:56] Will try that next. [18:58] whew the grub prompt was too much for me to follow i memberthat [19:00] omg, still can't get this to work :D [19:00] and i bet it is something so simple... [19:00] hope thats oh my goodness [19:13] * magespawn twiddles his thumbs waiting for boot-repair to run [19:13] lol [19:14] i got piles of stuff to sort through to find the right one anyway [19:14] i think you still gave it to me [19:15] I think we found it together last time I had a similar problem. [19:15] lol [19:15] was with 10.04 [19:15] maverick is much ,more stable [19:16] remember the uuid probs [19:16] lol [19:18] * not_found is now on Xubuntu... love Unity but just to many little bugs and stuff :( [19:19] i didnt enjoy xfce so much not_found [19:20] It is OK... for now I just want stable [19:21] magespawn, [19:21] http://slexy.org/view/s21W6ICW9e [19:22] one of those methods, there are 3 or 4 i think [19:22] was using chroot i think [19:25] Ty Kilos will keep a copy of that too [19:26] yw but after that i found boot-repair and have solved all probs with it [19:27] if you find one of them that tells you to mount the drive first and gives the mount command then you gotta win [19:27] was a funny command had mount in it twice === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [19:29] eish! [19:29] what you crashed now [19:30] I am out of here night all, will chat again tomrrow about success or lack of. [19:30] Kilos: I'm back :-) [19:30] magespawn: good night [19:30] night magespawn wb inetpro [19:31] * inetpro is not sure what caused the timeout [19:31] oh you didnt crash [19:32] just an irc timeout [19:36] oh my was the monkey here [19:37] wb kbmonkey [19:42] nn all [19:42] night charl [19:42] sgrr [19:43] sjoe dis koud [20:03] night all. sleep tight [20:03] gnight Kilos