[00:42] Hey guys, loving trying UbuntuStudio for the first time, but for some reason my softwares didn't install with, and I have a normal Ubuntu desktop. Any help? [00:48] Not sure what you mean Sm0keydaBear [00:48] what did you install (ubuntustudio 12.04?) what software are you missing? [00:54] I downloaded the UbuntuStudio ISO from the website and burned it onto a DVD and installed from DVD. [00:54] Also continuuing to get this issue as well, "Warning: No support for locale: en_US.utf8" [00:56] Previously I had installed everything seperate and tried to get them to work within Ubuntu, but could not so I formatted and reinstalled from the DVD [01:04] Hmm, are you using the i386 or amd64 ISO? [01:05] Amd64 iso [01:06] I have no experience there. Both my machines are i386. Also, my english is Canadian which may make a difference [01:07] Well it's alright, I'm just trying to get my Ubuntu to look like the Ubuntu Studios' with the programs installed [01:07] However, when I try to install Ubuntu Studio, it just gives me the regular Ubuntu 12.04. Wondering what else I need to do to install UbuntuStudio [01:07] What is the name of the iso you downloaded? [01:07] One sec [01:08] Ubuntu-Studio 12.04 amd64 [01:09] ubuntustudio-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso? [01:10] Yes [01:10] It should not look like ubuntu at all. [01:10] It should come up with xfce as a desktop [01:11] Yah I don't know where I went wrong. I installed from CD, said install Ubuntu Studio and then I dual-booted into Ubuntu, no UbuntuStudio [01:11] Try booting to the live session as that is what you should get when you install [01:11] What do you mean by live session? [01:12] Try before you install? [01:12] Ya. [01:12] Ok, then can I install from there? [01:12] Yes. [01:12] Alright, I think that should fix it. I just wanted confirmation that there was an issue with ME and not the installer lol [01:12] That is what worked best for me. [01:13] But I know some of the guys with amd64 worked too. [01:13] Gotta run for a bit. [01:14] Ok much appreciated for the help. I will go try that now [01:14] Hopefully won't have to be back here ;) [01:19] hi guys, I have a sound problem, anyone up for helping me out? [04:43] Hey I'm back. Issue with installing Grub, I don't know where to set the path. [04:46] I'm formatting one of my harddrives as we speak, and am wondering if there is any way I can install Ubuntu with Wubi.exe and then install UbuntuStudio, as I think that would be easiest for me., [04:56] Sm0keydaBear: You can always install Ubuntu Studio packages separately, but you'll need to set up realtime privilege for the user in that case [04:57] Sm0keydaBear: Here's about that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation#Real-Time_Support [04:58] Sm0keydaBear: If you install Ubuntu to hard drive, not using Wubi.exe, you'll need to install GRUB, or use a live medium to boot GRU(which a bit of work) [04:59] Sm0keydaBear: You can install it to any HD. Just make sure to boot from the correct HD, when booting the computer [05:00] Right, that's what I'm having issues with. I've been using the CD to boot from and use the Try before installing function. [05:00] When I go to install, I'm having trouble finding what hard-drive to load the Grub installer to, as it won't let me install it to any of my boot drives, nor any other drives [05:01] Sm0keydaBear: Yes, that's probably an issue with the live CD [05:01] Sm0keydaBear: You'd need to use an alternate regular Ubuntu installer for that [05:01] Yes, I've downloaded the latest from the website and was inquiring about that earlier [05:02] Sm0keydaBear: These are the alternate CD's [05:02] Ok so would it be easier to use the install UbuntuStudio function instead? [05:02] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads [05:03] Ok I know I can install Ubuntu alone, but I don't know how to install UbuntuStudio after having already installed Ubuntu. Is there any documentation about that? [05:04] Sm0keydaBear: You just install the ubuntustudio-* packages you like [05:04] Sm0keydaBear: Also, if you want realtime privilege, you'll need to set that up separatelyu [05:04] As mentioned above [05:04] Right, where can I find what the packages are? [05:04] Sm0keydaBear: Just do: apt-cache search ubuntustudio [05:05] In the terminal [05:05] I really want to do a full install of UbuntuStudio from the CD, but I'm not entirely sure why I can't install grub [05:05] Sm0keydaBear: It does install Grub, but you can't decide where [05:06] Right, so basically I can't specify where to install/load the "Try before installing" option [05:06] Try before installing is just loading the OS from CD. Nothing to do with installing [05:07] It doesn't install it anywhere. Just loads the entire OS to RAM, so you can try it out [05:07] That's why it's a bit slow [05:07] To load, I mean [05:07] Since you load from CD, not HD [05:07] Alright, because I think what happened when I had tried that was it would not let me install UbuntuStudio, when I booted into the option from bios, it gave me a regular Ubuntu [05:08] Sm0keydaBear: You can't install regular Ubuntu from the Ubuntustudio cd [05:08] I mean, I extracted the .ISO image and used Wubi.exe [05:08] Was my other option [05:08] Which installed just the regular version of Ubuntu, from the UbuntuStudio CD [05:09] That can't happen [05:09] That's what I said [05:09] Cause there's no regular UBuntu on the Ubuntu Studio CD [05:09] No Unity, etc [05:09] Of course, a lot of things are the same, under the hood, so to speak [05:09] Yes, I don't understand how it worked, I installed it using Wubi.exe and I could boot into it just fine, but no applications for Xbfe or what it's called was installed [05:10] Applications were apparently already loaded but would not show up in the applications [05:10] I have no idea. I don't have Windows, and never tried using that Wubi thing [05:10] lol, yah it gave me a normal copy of Ubuntu actually [05:11] Sm0keydaBear: So, would you have any issues with installing GRUB to the HD? [05:11] I guess what I'm asking is, is there any way to specify what drive to install UbuntuStudio from,? [05:11] The same HD where Windows is, that is [05:11] You mean, to? [05:11] Yes, my Windows partition is not very large, with around 15gb of space left [05:12] And I want to install UbuntuStudio to my other hard-drive which is D: with 400gb [05:12] You can decide which partition to install it to, but I seem to remember you can't set where Grub is installed, when using the live CD [05:12] Right, I don't know whether or not I can even install UbuntuStudio because I don't know how to get my computer to recognize my USB flash drive [05:13] And when trying to set the path of GRUB, it will not let me set it to anything [05:14] By default GRUB is installed onto the first HD [05:14] Ok, this is what I did earlier prior to trying to force-install UbuntuStudio... [05:14] I had installed Ubuntu, and tried to run in the terminal "sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop" [05:14] I did that, rebooted, and nothing had changed at all [05:15] Sm0keydaBear: You need to choose which desktop to use, when in the login screen [05:15] Sm0keydaBear: You can install all of them, if you want. Unity, XFCE, gnome-shell, KDE, etc [05:15] I don't recommend that, of course [05:15] Ok, I didn't look around on the login screen because I was too fixated on trying to get it to work lol [05:15] And, if you do use the Ubuntu alternate installer, you can choose not to install the Ubuntu Desktop, just the ubuntustudio one [05:16] I decided to uninstall because of trying to get JACK to work [05:16] Sm0keydaBear: The jack problem is not very hard to fix [05:16] Well I mean, it was quite complex to figure out in my eyes [05:16] Sm0keydaBear: You need to make yourself member of audio group [05:16] I spent literally half of my day trying to get sound from a couple of synths [05:17] I did that via the command, and was getting sound, but not out of any of the instruments [05:17] Sm0keydaBear: That kind of problems won't go away with Ubuntu Studio though [05:17] I'm just talking about realtime privilege [05:17] Right, but at least the needed software would be installed instead of me using a whole day to install the software [05:18] Sm0keydaBear: If you install ubuntustudio-audio, you get all audio programs that ubuntustudio has by default [05:18] So now I'm stuck trying to figure out how to install UbuntuStudio, basically [05:19] On top of that (which is of course not easy to know), you only need to make sure /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf is not named /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf.disabled and make sure the user is in audio group [05:19] As I don't have much space on my C: drive, I'm trying to figure a way to specify the UbuntuStudio install [05:19] Sm0keydaBear: You need to partition manually, when installing. That's all [05:19] Sm0keydaBear: Just that you can't decide where Grub is installed, if that matters. As I said, it will be installed onto the main HD by default [05:20] By partitioning manually, what do you mean? [05:20] Sm0keydaBear: During install [05:20] Sm0keydaBear: There comes a stage when you choose where to install it. Either erase everything else, or keep everything else, or decide manually [05:21] Right, that's what I meant earlier by trying to specify where GRUB goes [05:21] It just would NOT let me install it [05:21] You'll need a Swap partition that is roughly twice the size of your RAM, and one ext4 partition where to put your / [05:22] Ok, I did that but I'm not quite sure, can I set the partition that says Linux to be where to install grub? [05:23] Sm0keydaBear: I believe I told you this a few times already. If you want to decide where to install GRUB, use the Ubuntu alternate CD. Otherwise, be assured, GRUB will be installed onto the main HD [05:23] Grub is just a tiny program, that boots OS's [05:24] But it won't even let me install onto the MAIN hd [05:24] Using Wubi, you mean? [05:24] Which I don't know anything about [05:24] No, using UbuntuStudio CD [05:24] I don't think you have installed using the Ubuntustudio CD [05:24] You were using the "try before installing", were you not? [05:24] No, because I cant [05:25] I was using all 5-10 methods in fact [05:25] When I say I used my whole day, I'm not joking [05:25] It's not hard. You put the CD in. Select install. And go through the procedure. [05:25] And then it won't install UbuntuStudio [05:25] I believe I said this already [05:25] It gives me a STANDARD copy of Ubuntu [05:26] You were using Wubi, you said [05:26] That is not the same thing [05:26] I can't waste any more time with this [05:26] No, I said I've tried Wubi, I tried the Install from CD, I've tried installing AFTER using the Try before installing [05:26] Just put the CD in, install. And if you want to keep Windows, make sure not to install over that partition [05:26] I've tried the installing packages from INSIDE Ubuntu with no luck [05:27] Oh and not to mention [05:27] I tried installing with the first option to keep all of my data, and it just gives me the standard Ubuntu [05:27] I mean literally what I say [05:28] I'm not at all too stupid to read instructions [05:28] Which is impossible, if you were installing from the UBuntu Studio CD. [05:28] I appreciate you trying to help but, I'm not sure what is going on MYSELF [05:28] Well that's EXACTLY what I'm saying [05:28] If something is well under the possibility of being impossible, then why can't I do it [05:28] So, you weren't installing from the Ubuntu Studio CD. That is what I am saying [05:29] No, I told you already [05:29] I DID use the CD to install it [05:29] No you didn't [05:29] Anyways [05:29] Or you would not have installed UBuntu [05:29] I guess this is no help [05:29] It's like you tell me that you tried to install Ubuntu but ended up with OSX [05:29] I'm serious, I've tried all the methods that I spoke of before [05:30] Only to have a standard copy of Ubuntu at the end of it all [05:30] Or no boot because GRUB didn't install [05:30] Forcing me back into Windows [05:32] I mean, I can try to do it again but I'm afraid I'm just going to end up back here anyways [05:32] Sm0keydaBear: If you want to learn more about installing in different ways, before messing up your HD, try using something like Virtualbox [05:32] lol I'm certain I will not mess up my harddrives [05:33] But seriously, I have no clue what is going on, I downloaded the ISO from the website, burned it to DVD, went to install it and nothing goes right [05:33] Which is why I'm here in the first place [05:34] All I need essentially is a workaround for GRUB to install, but I can't find a solution to that [05:35] Sm0keydaBear: Listen. GRUB always installs, when using the live CD. If you use Ubuntu Studio live CD, you can only install Ubuntu Studio. Whatever problems you have above that are imaginary [05:35] Well I'm not imagining staying up for so long that I forgot to sleep [05:35] Wubi I have no clue about [05:36] I'm telling you [05:36] I did NOT just use Wubi [05:36] And what did you do during partitioning? [05:36] Wubi I went to first, because it was simple to install from Windows, but then I had realized that I was not actually using UbuntuStudio [05:36] At which stage did the install fail? [05:36] Another question I asked first [05:37] I could not identify my hard disk to install to [05:37] During partitioning, you mean? [05:37] The install didn't fail for Wubi, the install didn't fail for installing UbuntuStudio, the install failed when trying to install grub [05:38] Sm0keydaBear: Explain which stage that is at [05:38] The very last before rebooting to make changes [05:38] Sm0keydaBear: So, what did you do during partitioning? [05:38] Tried almost every partition to see if Grub would install [05:39] Which it would not, actually [05:40] Sm0keydaBear: So, no GRUB on that computer, at all [05:40] No, not at all, it would not install [05:40] So no UbuntuStudio, basically [05:40] I'm just not sure how to fix it [05:41] I mean you already know without Grub, there's basically no way of running Ubuntu [05:41] So I just have no clue as to why it will not install [05:41] Pretty much tells me every time that it's the wrong path [05:42] Sm0keydaBear: If you can't install GRUB onto the HD, it should be the same no matter which installer you use [05:42] Right, but Wubi works [05:42] So I mean, I could just install Ubuntu, but that would mean manually loading packages, something I'm not willing to spend another 24 hours doing [05:42] Sm0keydaBear: Wubi is different. It boots from Windows bootloader, right? [05:42] No, Wubi installs directly from Windows [05:43] Sm0keydaBear: I just told. If you want to install ubuntustudio packages, just install ubuntustudio-audio, and you're done [05:43] And even creates its own partition [05:43] I mean, the audio packages [05:43] Well, I want the GUI as well [05:43] Sm0keydaBear: The GRUB problem is in no way a Ubuntu Studio specific problem [05:43] Right, but I cannot find any solution at all, so I thought I'd ask [05:43] I've never heard of it, but could be you could find some help in general Ubuntu forums [05:44] I mean, if you can't help, you can't help [05:44] But really, I mean this is killing me why I'm not able to install this [05:44] Everything should load perfectly from the CD, but it doesn't [05:44] So I mean, I'm just not sure what exactly I'm supposed to do here [05:45] as someone who has loaded it almost daily for over 6 months... It is killing me too. [05:45] I have been able to select which drive to install grub to. [05:45] In two ways [05:46] But will it let you boot from the boot selection menu from bios? [05:46] I mean, that's pretty much the ONLY problem I'm having, is not getting it to be in the boot selection menu [05:47] the manual partition screen allows the device to be chosen. The bios in my case lets me choose which hard drive to boot from. [05:47] I get that, but I chose like EVERY drive in the list, and still could not finish installing GRUB [05:47] So you are saying there is a boot selection menu in bios? [05:47] I suppose when I am able to install GRUB, there will be [05:48] Ok, so there is not then. [05:48] No, not as of right now, I cannot install GRUB [05:48] the boot selection would come from grub [05:48] grub is not bios. [05:48] I will BRB, I think my HDD will be done formatting then, and I will come back and let you know what's going on [05:49] I will try installing straight off of the CD [05:49] OK [06:21] That guy is lucky if he's able to separate between his left and right hand. But, not easy when not all that in speed with installing OS's [06:22] :) so much easier to just be there [06:22] That much is clear. "It doesn't install" doesn't give you many clues [07:06] Found out what was wrong. Basically it was just the way that it named all of my partitions with the weird numbers [07:07] I had the right drive selected, but the wrong partition [07:07] Installing updates then I finally get to check out what I can do. I might need help setting up JACK tho [07:09] Oh, one question, the preinstalled version of Ardour is basically fully functional, correct? [08:05] Yes I am back again to annoy you... [08:06] But this time, I'm having issues with my S/PDIF connection. I'm not entirely sure it's my S/PDIF, but I cannot figure this problem out. [08:06] I can record and have sound go INTO Ardour, but I cannot reroute the sound back to play out of my computers speakers, presumebly because of me using S/PDIF on my reciever. [08:07] Am I missing something? I've got my connections in JACK so that Ardour L/R is connected to systems' playback 1 and playback 2 [08:07] But I get no sound, can anyone tell me what I'm missing? [08:09] Sm0keydaBear: Your speakers are connected to the spdif outlet on your audio device? [08:10] What device is it? [08:10] Ummm, what do you mean device [08:10] Sm0keydaBear: What kind of audio device? [08:10] Ok this is what I got, my computer has onboard sound and the S/PDIF is from the back out of my computer, into my reciever [08:10] Sm0keydaBear: And, did you try desktop sound, when not using jack. Does that work? [08:11] Yes, I can create noise or whatever in Audacity, and it does work with sound coming out [08:11] Sm0keydaBear: How many outputs does jack show for your audio device? [08:11] JACK shows 8 I think [08:11] If you mean Playback devices, it shows 8 [08:11] Sm0keydaBear: Then you should connect to the other outputs, and see which one of them is spdif [08:11] Ahh I just looked it up and was going to try them out [08:11] The first 2 aught to be your analoge stereo outs [08:11] Yah I think they are [08:13] Just to confirm, I need to be connecting Master/out 1 and 2 into whichever playback device my S/PDIF is? [08:14] Well that's weird, I just tried all connecting my master/out 1 and 2 to all playbacks, but still get no sound out [08:14] Is there a way to find which playback my S/PDIF is? [08:15] Card? [08:15] Onboard [08:15] Model? [08:16] Does it have SPDIF out? [08:16] IEC958 [08:16] Yes, and it does work without JACK [08:16] Is it works with Pulse Audio? [08:16] HDA Intel: ALC889 [08:17] I don't know, how do I check that btw? [08:17] Do you have installed PulseAudio? [08:17] Ok nevermind lol, I've been using PulseAudio [08:17] Ok, I guess this is the issue, I'm not seeing my S/PDIF on my Output Devices list [08:18] I have two diff interfaces in qjackctl preferences [08:18] which is [08:19] hw:0 analog part of my onboard card [08:19] and hw:1 is didgital part(SPDIF) [08:19] check it, maybe you have it too [08:19] That's weird [08:20] But then you need to choose a different output, only [08:20] I just changed it to HW:0 [08:20] My digital out is HW:0,2 [08:21] Also have plughw:0 , /dev/audio and dev/dsp [08:21] oh wait [08:21] Sm0keydaBear: If you select the correct audio device in "Interface", and then see under "Outputs".. [08:21] Sorry, "Output Device" [08:21] I didn't see the dropdown box on the right lol. hw:0,1 ALC889,1 digital [08:23] Does anybody knows where I can find some instructions about performance boosting? [08:23] Humm it's not working still [08:24] Pretty odd, I just can't get any sound out of JACK [08:25] try to kill PA [08:25] Also, the only output's showing up in PA is my video cards [08:25] Ok, should I command line it? [08:25] pulseaudio --kill [08:26] Ok did that but my S/PDIF still doesn't show up in PulseAudio :( [08:27] Lol, I lost my third tab actually in Configuration [08:28] Is there a reason why PulseAudio isn't letting my S/PDIF or even Analogs show up? Or maybe JACK is messing it up> [08:28] ? [08:28] Show up? where? [08:30] Maybe you must select the right interface [08:30] Inside of PulseAudio [08:30] I selected pretty much the default, HW 0 [08:30] Which DOES work in Audacity [08:31] PA? Does you kill PA? [08:31] If you kill it [08:32] the spdif or analog outs will not showed inside pa [08:34] try to alsamixer in console [08:34] maybe your outs are muted [08:39] Ok one second [08:40] My S/PDIF and S/PDIF Default PCM are at 00, but are not muted [08:40] Sm0keydaBear: Are you mixing up PA with jack? [08:41] I'm not sure how to do that [08:41] When you say pulseaudio settings, what do you mean? [08:41] Ohhhh you mean like thinking they're the same thing [08:41] qjackctl controls jack, not PA [08:42] And PA does not control jack [08:42] No inside of JACK I have my Ardour connected to all of the outs [08:42] But inside PA, I do not have my standard outs showing up [08:42] It only shows my video card outs :( [08:42] You said before, you had it working with PA [08:42] And a Dummy Output now that I disabled my video cards [08:42] Which means, you had it selected for your output device [08:43] Yes one second, I will test sound with Audacity [08:43] Audacity IS working with HDA Intel: ALC889 hw 0,1 [08:43] mighty_aboba: What kind of performane boosting do you need? [08:44] Is there something in ALSA that I need to connect? [08:44] Sm0keydaBear: There's no hw 0,1 in PA settings [08:44] Sm0keydaBear: Where are you doing PA settings? [08:44] speed boosting [08:44] I only have a Dummy Output in PA, but sound works via Audacity [08:44] Go to the volume applet, and click the "mixer", or "settings" or whatever it's called [08:44] Sm0keydaBear: That's the PA mixer/settings [08:45] mighty_aboba: You need lower latency? what? [08:45] i want to take from my laptop maximum [08:45] Right, in Qjackctrl, I have in Audio my Master out 1/2 from Ardour connected to all 8 Playbacks [08:45] Sm0keydaBear: Qjackctl only controls jack [08:45] Not Pulseaudio [08:45] Just to make that clear [08:46] Right, I know, but Audacity works without PulseAudio I believe [08:46] Err, DOES work with Dummy Output only [08:46] And Ardour DOES have a signal coming out of the master channel [08:47] Sm0keydaBear: Why not make life easy, and just use the analoge out? [08:47] I mean my reciever does not have an analog out [08:47] analog in, you mean [08:47] And it is what I primarily use, so I figure why not get the work done first and then get to work [08:47] Making music is kind of my job [08:48] First time user of Ubuntu btw [08:48] mighty_aboba: Are you not getting the performance you require? What is missing? [08:48] Sm0keydaBear: It's a bit of a challenge, just jumping in [08:49] Sm0keydaBear: My advice is, give it some time [08:49] Right I mean the only thing I'm really hanging on is getting this to work [08:49] Sm0keydaBear: As mighty_aboba suggested, when using jack, try using alsamixer from the console to see the controls for your audio device [08:49] Yes I have it open [08:50] If you see spdif there, then it is active and available with jack [08:50] Or, should be [08:50] Yes, I have S/PDIF and S/PDIF Default PCM [08:50] PA also uses alsa drivers for its backend, but does things a bit differently [08:50] Both unmuted [08:51] Sm0keydaBear: btw, when you start jack, no problems? It just starts and runs fine? [08:52] Everything is fine, no problems in the message window of JACK [08:52] I have my Audio Output and Inputs, but I need Playback 9 and 10 [08:53] I cannot access my S/PDIF because they have no number above them in Alsamixer [08:53] Sm0keydaBear: You could ask on #jack, about digital outputs. I'm afraid I have very little experience with that, except I have managed to sync two devices using spdif [08:53] Ok I will ask there, thanks [09:01] Well, still searching for a way to get it to work lol [09:02] Guess I will mess with the output channels and whatnot [09:02] Sm0keydaBear: There's also #opensourcemusicians [09:03] Cool, I'll check there as well [09:03] Sm0keydaBear: Also, if you have audio coming out from the spdif, when using pulseaudio, that means you have selected the right device [09:04] You can't say it's not showing up, when evidentally you are using it [09:04] And it's selected [09:04] In Pulseaudio settings, that is. Which has absolutely nothing to do with jack, whatsever [09:05] Except both use alsa drivers, which most probably means it should work on jack, also [09:06] lol I did the pulseaudio --kill command and then the output disappeared [09:07] But I can still get sound output from Audacity, which is what's weird [09:07] It seems Audacity like other programs directly access the sound, but for some reason JACK is not interfacing with my S/PDIF [09:07] Sm0keydaBear: You're probably using alsa with Audacity, which means, it's blocking PA when you use it [09:08] That would be visible in Audacity settings [09:08] And that has nothing to do with PA, alsa, or jack settings. That's just the settings for Audacity [09:57] lol, I guess a restart was all it needed [09:57] Now I have PulseAudio JACK Sink connected :) [09:57] Oh BTW, one more question before I get out of here, are there any more sound generators / synths that I can find? [10:05] Sm0keydaBear: Yes, PA + jack, but that's not what makes the digital out work [10:06] So, the digital out works now? [10:06] Yes, PulseAudio recognizes my S/PDIF now after restart [10:06] Sm0keydaBear: That has nothing to do with jack [10:06] When you run jack, PA stops using your device [10:07] When you set PA to use jack as sink, PA is nothing more than Software [10:07] No drivers in use [10:07] Jack is doing the driver part [10:07] Hmmm, I don't know anything about this yet [10:07] Pulseaudio is a desktop audio system, that normally uses alsa drivers [10:08] When jack is running, it is jack that is using the alsa drivers for that card, not PA [10:08] Sm0keydaBear: While you were gone, I found a way to use the spdif only [10:08] But, I guess you won't need it [10:09] lol thanks anyways [10:10] Oh yah btw, did you know where I could find some instruments to use with JACK? [10:18] Sm0keydaBear: make searches based on lv2 and dssi [10:19] Or is it just dssi? [10:19] Not a lot shows up, btw [10:20] Or just google.. [10:23] Cool stuff, looks like an immediate download [10:31] Sm0keydaBear: You basically have three types of tech, that are linux specific. ladspa(fx), dssi(instruments) and lv2 (am I forgetting something?) [10:32] Also, there's a bit of vst support, but not much of that with Ubuntu Studio [10:32] And not for vst instruments, AFAIK [10:32] You'll need to add a PPA to get VST support to some software, like a KXStudio PPA [10:35] Sm0keydaBear: What kind of music are you making? You have anything we can listen to? [13:07] halo everyone [13:08] any ideas about this? "FATAL: Module raw1394 not found" after issuing this command modprobe raw1394 [13:10] scriptwarlock: raw1394 was replaced by a new stack some time ago [13:11] What are you trying to do? [13:11] And on which OS? [13:11] so how do i check if the 1394 is loading or working [13:11] os [13:11] oh ubuntu studio 12.04 [13:11] You're trying to start a firewire device, right? [13:11] If using jack, you only need to be member of audio group [13:12] yes but of course just checking if the module is loaded or present [13:12] Which you are [13:12] The 1394 module is replaced [13:12] So, not used [13:12] Hasn't been since 10.04, by default [13:12] replaced of what? [13:13] scriptwarlock: A new firewire stack has replaced it [13:13] scriptwarlock: What device are you trying to get started? [13:13] itommorow i'll be using the presonus studio live 24 miing console that has a firewire to record the audio [13:14] mixing* [13:14] scriptwarlock: Use ffado-diag to see what's going on [13:15] I mean, when using the device [13:15] the one in the mixer>ffad mixer? [13:15] If it's a device that is known to work, it should just work, out of the box [13:15] scriptwarlock: in the console. Install ffado-tools, and use the tool ffado-diag to see info about the device, etc [13:15] ah ok [13:16] scriptwarlock: You don't have access to the device now? [13:16] tommorow [13:16] you know presonus mixing consoles? [13:17] scriptwarlock: Haven't tried it. You can try out ffado-diag now, if you like. It will tell you: old 1394 stack present.... False [13:17] old 1394 stack loaded..... False [13:17] old 1394 stack active..... False [13:17] new 1394 stack present.... True [13:17] new 1394 stack loaded..... True [13:17] new 1394 stack active..... True [13:17] /dev/raw1394 node present. False [13:18] aha [13:18] yeah we have the same result [13:18] that means i have a working firewire [13:19] scriptwarlock: Here's the file that allows users in audio group to use firewire devices: cat /lib/udev/rules.d/60-ffado.rules [13:19] So, no further configuration needed [13:19] oh my [13:20] If the device is known to work, you might need to fiddle with it, getting it to start. For me, I need to first start the device. Then connect the cable. Very weird [13:20] i have link the ffad0 to raw1394 [13:20] Perhaps for other devices, there's no fiddling at all. You just start jack, and you're done [13:20] scriptwarlock: As I said. No configs needed. You just start jack [13:20] awtz [13:21] darn gotta bring back what i have done [13:21] scriptwarlock: A fresh install would do the trick. It's all there, as is [13:21] yeah thanks very much [13:22] tomorrow will tell me everything after firing the mixing console [13:22] Good luck :). Always risky not testing beforehand [13:23] yep [13:23] some commands to unlink that ffado to raw1394? [13:24] Not really sure what you did [13:24] ln /dev/fw0 /dev/raw1394 [13:25] So, you created a link to /dev/fw0 in /dev/raw1394? [13:26] You could just delete the link [13:26] Don't think the link would do anything anyway tho [13:27] and changing the permission to some 666 or 775 [13:27] I'd just do a fresh install, to be sure. [13:28] thats fine anyway this is just a fresh install so no problem for me... so to wrap everything i need is just fire the jack and connect the device to my laptop/ [13:29] Just connect, and start jack [13:29] got it darn i messed the OS [13:30] if only we have a restore point that would be very convenient [13:31] There might be a way to make copies of the system, but you'd have to do it manually. Perhaps there are some tools for that [13:31] Not builtin into the OS, anyway [13:32] it could be rsync or remastersys [13:33] anyway thanks for the help very informative [13:34] is the audio production>mixers>ffado mixer is the same with ffado-daig? [13:34] ffado-mixer is for controlling the internal routing of the firewire device [13:34] ok [13:35] thanks be right back some time gonna reinstall ustudio [17:08] why cant i config my asus d2pm audiocard,it is not compatibelt whith ubuntustudio probely [17:17] Daviey: What seems to be your problem? [17:17] ailo: Where do i begin? [17:18] Daviey: Sorry :) [17:18] That guy Danne seems to have disappeared quickly [18:35] Hi there, I have a problem using a dv camcorder with kino 1.3.4 : I have bought a old samsung vp-d376 to use it as a dv player and to avoid using my so old sony dcr pc 110. When I try to acquire the dv tape through kino, the image freezes after a few seconds and the capture stops. But the camcorder is still playing. [18:36] So I can capture a few sequences but not all [18:37] Where can I go to see if there is a error ? [18:38] Ooops rebooting...