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apoljtechidna: 00:59
apolping00:59
apoljtechidna: sent you an e-mail >.<01:05
apolgood night kubuntu'ers!01:05
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1001549] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: conffile '.... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1001549 (by Brian Neltner)02:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1001549 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: conffile './etc/xdg/Trolltech.conf' is not in sync with other instances of the same package" [Undecided,Confirmed]02:09
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apachelogger___shadeslayer: PING08:52
apachelogger___also, morning kids!08:52
Riddellmorning apachelogger!08:59
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BluesKaj'Morning all11:23
Riddellafternoon11:32
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Riddellhmm a mixed review here http://www.muktware.com/3914/why-i-went-back-gnome-kde12:01
Riddelltxwikinger: are you using arm servers?12:02
apachelogger___Riddell: muktware is FUDcentral12:06
shadeslayerapachelogger___: PONG12:14
apachelogger___shadeslayer: autoresolved12:14
shadeslayerawesome12:14
apachelogger___how's your qdebug coming along?12:15
shadeslayerapachelogger___: already fixed in my branch12:15
shadeslayerhaven't pushed yet, was out doing tax stuff12:15
shadeslayersec12:15
apachelogger___shadeslayer: talk to Will about mergering it on gitorious12:16
shadeslayerapachelogger___: can't do atm12:16
shadeslayeroh wait12:16
* shadeslayer is using the wrong repo12:16
* shadeslayer facepalms12:17
* apachelogger___ applauds12:17
* shadeslayer fondles apachelogger___ and forks repo on gitorious12:18
apachelogger___no fondling during work hours! :P12:18
* shadeslayer fondles apachelogger___ a bit more12:18
shadeslayersign12:21
shadeslayersigh12:21
shadeslayerapachelogger___: they don't even use pretty headers12:21
apachelogger___pretty headers?12:21
shadeslayer#include <kmessagebox.h>12:22
apachelogger___looks pretty too me12:23
shadeslayer#include <KMessageBox> ?12:23
apachelogger___not so pretty12:23
shadeslayerwhut12:24
* debfx wants leetspeak header aliases12:29
debfx#include <km355463b0x>12:29
apachelogger___dem would be ze prettiest12:34
apachelogger___someone script something to make that happen plz12:34
ScottKRiddell: The only thing that bothers me in that article is the comments from other KDE people about Kubuntu as a distro.  I think those are wrong and unfair and the KDE community should not do such things.12:44
jtechidnaScottK: I noticed some... untoward behavior from a certain suse community leader in the comments there as well :/12:50
ScottKHe was one of them, but not the only one.12:50
ScottKI guess I could mention that when I'm googling for patches to fix bugs, I ignore hits from suse because they're always crap.12:51
ScottKActually it happened once, but it's an equivalent comment.12:51
jtechidnaright, but coming from somebody who is supposed to be the outward facing representative of suse, it's kind of really unbecoming.12:52
ScottKDefinitely.12:52
jtechidnaanybody else could be disregarded as a mere troll, or at best just a disgruntled user.12:53
jtechidnaonce disgruntled, it's hard to become gruntled again :P12:53
shadeslayeromfg13:00
shadeslayer[Launchpad-users] Beta test: asynchronous PPA package copies13:00
shadeslayerYES13:00
shadeslayeryofel_: ^^ LOOK13:00
yofel_seen, haven't tried it yet13:00
shadeslayerall of ti seems magical13:01
shadeslayer*it13:01
shadeslayerI just saw the email13:01
ScottKjtechidna: FYI, barry's on the case porting kpythonpluginfactory to python3.13:34
jtechidnagreat :)13:35
ScottKI did some CMake magic for him last night, so now I think it's just Python 3 C API.13:36
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Quintasan\o13:50
Riddellhi Quintasan 13:50
RiddellI'm sure my old owncloud packages set up a mysql database for you, but I don't see it in them, maybe I just made that up15:20
Riddellanyone remember?15:20
apoljtechidna: in the fonts category, we should filter for ttf-* instead of ttf*, no?15:30
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jtechidnaapol: is there a reason to do one over the other?16:12
apoljtechidna: all fonts are ttf-* and I see we have packages that are ttf* and are not fonts16:13
jtechidnahmm16:13
jtechidnayeah, probably should be ttf-*16:13
apoljtechidna: like ttf2ufm16:14
jtechidnayeah16:14
apolok I'll fix that16:18
apoljtechidna: when calling upgrade&commit16:18
apolif there's nothing to upgrade, CommitChangesFinished is never emitted16:18
apoljtechidna: maybe I can add workerFinished to QApt::Backend? seems safer than using workerEvent16:24
apolor should i listen for the error in this case?16:24
jtechidnaapol: I think there should be a FetchError in this case16:25
apolhm16:26
apolI'm not getting any signal, not workerEvent or errorOccurred16:26
jtechidnathe worker's commitChanges function must be returning without emitting a signal, otherwise it would emit at least something16:27
apoljtechidna: where does the worker stdout go?16:36
jtechidnaapol: to debug the worker, start it with "sudo qaptworker" in konsole, then run a transaction with muon16:36
jtechidnastdout will then be in the terminal16:37
jtechidnathere's a 30 second timeout in between when you start qaptworker before it automatically quits16:37
apoljtechidna: do I need some argument? it quits immediately here16:37
jtechidnaoh, it'll do that if there's already a qaptworker process still around16:38
jtechidnajust killall qaptworker before hand16:38
jtechidnaperhaps it should say something about that....16:38
jtechidnaI have to go run an errand, be back in ~an hour16:44
apoljtechidna: my bad, it was my problem :P16:51
apolfixed ^^16:51
jtechidna:)17:25
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shadeslayerfooey, no riddell18:54
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littlegirlHey there, would there be any objection to using K-menu for the Kickoff Application Launcher Menu in the Kubuntu system documentation?19:52
littlegirlAlso, would there be any objection to my renaming the manage-software.xml file to software.xml so that it's one word like all the other topic documents?19:53
littlegirlAnd one more thing: There was mention of changing KMail to Kontact Mail in the Precise blueprints, but I don't think that should happen since its name really is KMail and that's what it's called even on its web site. Can that particular task be disregarded?19:55
ScottKlittlegirl: For #1 I think that makes sense because that's what most people call it.  For #2, I think you're the docs writer, so you decide.  For #3 Yes and see #2.19:58
jjesseno worries on changing thngs19:59
littlegirlOkay, thanks. I had those tasks sitting there and didn't know quite what to do with them. I wish the blueprint had an [INVALID] tag we could use for occasional tasks just so that if you look at the progression from one release to another you can see that an unfinished task in one release was considered and rejected in another release rather than ignored altogether. (:20:00
ScottKlittlegirl: If it's invalid, delete it.20:00
littlegirlScottK: Right, although that doesn't let anyone who comes along later and looks at both blueprints know that you did consider it and reject it, rather than just not considering it at all. (:20:01
ScottKYou can write something about that in the blueprint summary.20:01
littlegirlI suppose I'll do that. (:20:02
littlegirlI'm going to have a wish list of tasks that need to be accomplished by Someone Other Than Me. Is this where I would put them or would it be better to make a post in the kubuntu-devel mailing list?20:02
jjesselittlegirl, are you updating the TODO text?20:03
jjessei might have some time this next trip to work on thngs20:03
littlegirljjesse: I have been, but let me look if it's caught up...20:03
ScottKlittlegirl: Make sure they're listed in the tasks for the BP and then email kubuntu-devel, then apply a big stick about jjesse's head and shoulders for emphasis.20:03
jjessei'll need lots of sticks20:04
littlegirljjesse: Nope, it needs a bit of tweaking. I'll update it. (:20:04
littlegirlLOL20:04
littlegirlOkay, the TODO file is updated and on the server. (:20:11
* littlegirl hands jjesse lots of sticks20:12
barryhi scott20:14
barryhi ScottK 20:14
ScottKHigh barry.20:14
ScottKJontheEchidna: barry has a patch for kpython3pluginfactory that at least compiles.  He needs help with testing.  Can you help out with that?20:15
barryScottK: not during working hours :)20:15
ScottKHe did it late last night.20:15
barryScottK, JontheEchidna lp:~barry/+junk/pykde4py320:16
barrythe only thing i modified from ScottK's pastebin is kpython3pluginfactory_base.patch20:16
littlegirlOne more thing on my questions above. Would the proper way to write it be K-menu or K-Menu or K menu?20:20
ScottKNo idea.20:20
jjessei would assume there is something on kde.org20:20
ScottKWe should start getting IRC notifications here on Kubuntu packageset changes and ISO status changes.20:20
jjesseto help w/ naming20:20
* littlegirl will look on kde.org20:20
littlegirlOkay, it looks like the officially correct way to write it is "K menu" so that's what it will be. (:20:26
* littlegirl throws Ks around20:27
JontheEchidnaScottK, barry: I have some paperwork to do/emails to send related to squaring things away for university this fall, but I'll look at it later tonight when I'm done with all that. Thanks for taking a look at it!20:45
barrysure thing!20:45
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