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=== CTtechguy_ is now known as CTtechguy
ready_hi everybody. i've installed lubuntu but when i run it, the screen turns to black and doesnt work. the first screen where lubuntu charges appear, but then everything is gone. what happens? can i solve it? thank you07:15
ready_anyone? please im in a hurry07:17
ready_hello?07:19
bioterrorcan you go to the console?07:19
bioterrorlike tty1 when the screen is black07:19
ready_no07:19
ready_the screes is just like on stand by mode07:20
ready_screen*07:20
bioterroryou mean that it puts itself into standby mode07:20
ready_seems like, yes07:20
BlitzHeredid the live cd work? what graphics card do you have?07:21
ready_i didnt use the live cd07:22
ready_but the alternate installaion07:22
ready_so i just installed it07:22
ready_i have a s3 prosavageddr07:22
bioterrors3, my favourite vendor!07:23
ready_so... any ideas about what is happening and how to deal with the problem?07:25
bioterrorhard to help if you cant even go to the console07:26
bioterrorI would probably boot into text mode and generate Xorg.conf07:26
bioterroradd to the end of the grub's bootline: text07:27
bioterrorand it should boot you into the console07:27
ready_could you provide step by step instructions on how to do that? im quite new to linux so i dont want to mess things up07:27
bioterrorwhen your computer has done the bios chceck, you press left shit key and it should pop-up the grub07:28
bioterrorI hate this "hide the grub" thing07:28
ready_and then i just write text and press enter?07:29
bioterroryou have to edit the boot line07:29
bioterrorand add just this text after the quiet ro07:30
bioterroror what was it07:30
bioterroror is it quiet splash07:30
ready_i dont know now. wait 5 minutes please, im turning on another pc to work better07:32
ready_im back07:44
ready_bioterror im not the grub now07:53
ready_bioterror: should i write "text" in a new line a the end?07:53
bioterroryou edit the current line07:56
ready_ok07:56
ready_the screen goes to standby mode too07:56
ready_maybe i did it wrong... let me try again07:57
ready_now i cant enter the grub anymore08:01
ready_:(08:01
ready_bioterror:  ok, i can enter something that says grub>08:05
ready_but if i write ext, it says its an unknown command08:05
ready_and another screen of grub with several lines08:05
ready_bioterror:  should i write down here what i can see?08:06
ready_bioterror:08:08
bioterrorhttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/Modify-WUBI-Grub2.png08:09
bioterrorwhen you see something like that08:09
bioterroron this "linux..." line you add to the end just: text08:09
bioterrorright after quiet splash08:09
bioterrorhttp://imagecdn.maketecheasier.com/2009/12/ubuntukarmic-edit-grub-entr.png like this one has added "nomodeset"08:10
ready_ok, got it08:10
ready_should i login?08:10
bioterroryou should08:10
ready_ok, ready on text mode08:11
bioterrorso now you can login to your computer?08:11
ready_tell me what to check now :)08:11
ready_yes08:11
bioterrorrun command: Xorg -configure08:12
bioterrornotice the capital X08:12
ready_fatal server error: cannot move old log file "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old"08:13
bioterrorhmmmmm08:14
ready_yep, i thought the same when fatal error appeared lol08:14
bioterrorsudo less /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:14
bioterrorand see what's wrong with it08:14
ready_alright, lot of text in the screen now08:15
ready_do you want me to copy something here?08:17
bioterroryou can look for errors yourself08:18
bioterroryou will find something interesting from the bottom :D08:18
ready_there are no errors08:19
bioterrorreally?08:19
ready_only default setting and settings from config file08:19
bioterrorhmmm08:19
ready_nothing marked as error, yep08:19
bioterroroh well08:19
bioterrorsudo rm -rf /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old08:20
bioterrordoes that command work08:20
bioterrorI dunno if you already have that08:20
bioterrorbut worth of trying08:20
ready_let me try08:20
ready_oh wait wait08:20
ready_there are more text and i didnt see it lol08:21
ready_let me read it08:21
bioterroryeah, pgdown ;)08:21
ready_there are some warnings too08:22
ready_are they important?08:22
bioterroryou tell me ,)08:22
ready_i dont know lol. there are a couple that say "falling back to old probe method for vesa" and another the same but "for fbdev"08:23
bioterroryeah08:23
bioterrornothing to worry about08:23
ready_ok, let me continue08:23
ready_errors!08:24
ready_AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/savage_dri.so failed. cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory08:25
ready_AIGLX: reverting to software rendering08:25
bioterrorthat's not fatal yet ;)08:27
ready_there are no more errors, and i got to the real end :)08:27
bioterrorokay08:27
bioterrorjust delete the log file08:27
bioterrorand try to configure Xorg again08:27
ready_please, tell me what to write08:28
ready_i dont feel confident at all here08:28
bioterrorsudo rm -rf /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old08:29
bioterrorXorg -configure08:29
ready_how can i exit the log file?08:30
bioterrorq08:30
ready_thx08:30
ready_same fatal error08:31
ready_:(08:32
ready_bioterror:  this offered a solution, but i dont know at all if that is correct/safe http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/17842/solved-fatal-server-error-cannot-move-old-log-file/08:36
ready_it seems i dont have the rights to do the operation08:37
ready_as im not in the root user08:37
ready_which i probably shoud have used....08:37
ready_bioterror: should i login as root?08:44
ready_bioterror08:49
bioterrorsudo = root08:49
ready_bioterror:  by the way, when trying startx, the same fatal error appear08:49
ready_bioterror: ok08:49
ready_bioterror:  have you checked the link i provided?08:50
bioterrorgive rm -rf to the /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:50
ready_i did it08:50
ready_and tthen tried the configure08:50
bioterrorcan you now?08:50
ready_and same error08:50
bioterrorhmm08:50
bioterrorwhat if you run command08:51
bioterrorstartlubuntu08:51
ready_lets see08:51
ready_Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display08:51
bioterrorhmmm08:51
bioterrornice08:52
ready_nice? lol08:52
bioterroryou can try that dpkg-reconfigure line from the link you posted08:58
ready_bioterror:  any more ideas?08:58
ready_ok08:58
ready_and then?09:01
bioterrortry startlubuntu command09:02
ready_same: Gtk-WARNING cannot open display09:02
bioterrorare you using ssh or something else?09:03
ready_i thought that would be easier09:03
bioterroryou need to do that from command line :D09:03
bioterrornot from ssh09:03
ready_to do what?09:04
bioterroryou cant run graphical commands thru ssh09:05
bioterror(except -X ;)09:05
ready_bioterror:  omg i dont know where i am09:06
ready_how can i know if im on the ssh or in the command line?09:06
bioterrorare you using the keyboard attached to the computer that does not come to graphical interface09:06
ready_im so sorry if im wasting ur time... definitely this is quite complicated to me09:06
bioterroror what are you using?09:06
ready_bioterror: yes, im using the keyboard, no graphics, black background and white letter09:07
ready_letters*09:07
ready_i edited the grub, adding the text. it entered in text mode (said in the header ubuntu etc etc tty1). then i logged in09:09
ready_and there i am09:09
ready_whatever@whatever: ~$09:09
ready_and there is where i write09:10
bioterroryes09:10
bioterrorbut still cant figure out why it says this cannot open display09:10
bioterrorbut I have to pack my laptop to my backbag and move to another site09:11
ready_bioterror:  are you coming back?09:11
bioterrormaybe, maybe not :D09:11
ready_:(09:11
bioterrorI have work todo09:11
ready_i understand09:11
ready_do you anyone i can ask or something?09:12
ready_know*09:12
ready_maybe so in the channel09:14
bioterrorhey09:14
bioterrorwhat if you run command: sudo service lightdm start09:15
ready_its thinking09:17
ready_wait09:17
ready_nothing09:18
ready_standby mode09:18
bioterrorokay09:18
bioterrorsounds really a graphics card problem09:19
bioterrorbut now I'm off, laters09:19
ready_bioterror:  can i ask someone else? do u know?09:19
ready_and thank you very much anyway :)09:19
ready_anyone else here in the channel??09:25
lubuhello.   I just installed the OTR plugin for pidgin, and I'm really new to Pidgin.   How can I tell if I'm encrypted or not?09:26
lubuor is it just for private IM ?09:27
ready_hello.  i want to replace my graphics card driver for an update ive found. how can i do it? on the command line09:39
ready_please, i need help09:46
ready_im desperate :(09:46
lubui think they must be busy right now.... try leaving a message on the official Lubuntu Facebook page.09:50
lubuI've had a lot of great answers on the facebook page09:51
lubuand apparently, a lot of the folks in here are also watching the FB page09:51
joosseeis there a trick to adding new shortcuts to the applications menu? after right clicking and choosing "add new shortcut" I get to name it and then nothing...?16:30
Unit193https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_make.2BAC8-add_an_application_to_the_.22start.22_menu. There is the guide.16:41
leszekhi17:24
Unit193Howdy.17:26
kristian-T61pcheers18:06
kristian-T61pholstein, holla18:06
kristian-T61pso I keep having this annoying thing where lxpanel loses most of the buttons... I have to open a terminal and go "lxpanelctl restart" to fix it18:07
leszeknever heard or had such a bug. What Lubuntu version and lxpanel are you using ?18:10
kristian-T61phttp://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=148418:12
kristian-T61phi leszek18:12
kristian-T61plxpanel 0.5.818:13
kristian-T61pLubuntu is 12.0418:13
kristian-T61pthe crazy thing is that I had Mint on this box before, and the panel there (Gnome, I believe) had a similar issue18:14
holsteinkristian-T61p: o/18:16
holsteinwhat are you adding to it?18:16
holsteini would either try the default panel live, or with a new user, see if you get it to "break"... if not, look at how you are configuring it..18:16
kristian-T61pholstein, only minor things... actually, I think all I have which is not default is a shortcut to LXterminal18:17
kristian-T61pgood thinking to try with a new user, I'll do that18:18
kristian-T61pbbl18:19
leszekthe t61 has a dual core cpu I guess. Maybe its a race condition in lxpanel. But that is only speculation :P18:19
kristian-T61phi18:23
kristian-T61pholstein, I managed to reproduce18:24
kristian-T61pfor instance, when I have ran XBMC, it happens18:24
holsteinmaybe try running from the terminal for the output18:25
leszekor try looking in .xsession-error in your home directory18:26
kristian-T61plet me paste you my .xsession-errors18:28
kristian-T61phttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1100579/18:28
Unit193www.pastebin.com18:28
kristian-T61phello, nemesis18:29
kristian-T61p;)18:29
leszekkristian-T61p: nothing unusual18:29
kristian-T61pand here's .old: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1100583/18:30
kristian-T61pI can't make head and/ or tails of that18:30
holsteinxbmc takes over the screen, right?18:31
kristian-T61pyes18:31
leszekkristian-T61p: hmm... this is somehow bad: "lxpanel: Fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server :0." Maybe your harddisk or filesystem is broken18:31
kristian-T61pbut, this happens with stuff that does not take over the screen too18:31
kristian-T61pleszek, everything works fine... there is only this one thing that is causing me trouble18:32
leszekkristian-T61p: please test from a live usb and try to reproduce it there. If you can't please try checking your harddrive18:32
holsteinid force a filesystem check and test the memory..18:32
kristian-T61pthis is a Think-Pad, people :;18:32
holsteintroubleshooting with a live CD is just too easy not to try it18:32
holsteinkristian-T61p: ?18:33
holsteinall hard drives fail18:33
kristian-T61pthey don't break, period18:33
kristian-T61pyes18:33
kristian-T61pespecially IBM ones, I'm afraid18:33
holsteinnah.. i got a stack of old broken thinkpads18:33
holsteinfirst mistake is to assume something is not broken... just test it down and make sure... literally wont hurt18:33
kristian-T61pI was half-joking.... they are pretty cool still18:33
kristian-T61pyeah18:34
holsteinthe live CD is an easy way18:34
kristian-T61pI don't have a livecd handy, I think18:34
holsteinmost of my error troubleshooting starts with a live CD or USB18:34
kristian-T61pyes, it's nice to rule out stuff18:34
holsteinits key to rule out possibilities :)18:35
kristian-T61pelementary and all that ;)18:35
kristian-T61pI just borrowed a Zorin Lite, let me try that - should be the same panel18:41
kristian-T61pwait... ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area18:42
holsteinassume nothing18:42
Unit193Could always make a boot flash.18:42
kristian-T61pyeah... I'll try this first18:43
kristian-aalborghello again, gang19:49
kristian-aalborgso, I ran the Zorin Lite cd... I could not reproduce the error, but then again, I did not have any programs that were known to trigger the fault19:50
petohi20:09
petothanks for lubuntu20:10
petofor the first time I installed lubuntu, and I am loving it20:10
petojust wondering, how to install adobe flash,20:11
petoit said wrong version is installed so I can't watch that video20:11
holsteini just use the chrome browser20:11
petoexcuse me?20:11
Unit193holstein: Sadness.... :P20:12
bioterrorenable partner repository and install flash from there20:12
Unit193peto: You can install flshplugin-installer, or... That ^^20:12
petohow do I do that bioterror?20:12
Unit193!partner20:13
ubottuCanonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »20:13
peto$lsb_release-sc ?20:14
Unit193Open terminal, paste    sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"20:15
petook20:18
petoI don't see any flash in package manager20:19
shmohello everyone20:24
petocan't watch video20:40
Unit193Did you install the plugin?20:41
petotried this command sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras flashplugin-nonfree20:42
petodoesn't work20:42
Unit193No, it'd be adobe-flashplugin, but pastebin.com the output of   dpkg -l |grep flash20:43
Unit193(May have to apt-get update if you haven't done so.)20:43
petoflash works now , but other videos20:53
petodon't20:53
holsteinpeto: i use the chrome browser.. its got the latest flash built in.. this is my "workaround" for not getting flash support any longer for linux20:55
petothats good20:56
Unit193But you have to use Chrome...20:56
petoi m talking about other videos20:56
holsteinUnit193: its a compromise for sure.. but i dont mind it actually, though i would prefer chromium20:56
holsteinpeto: what "other" videos? ... i had some other videos thats didnt play, and i went with chrome, and they all work20:57
petoi have videos on my hard drive20:57
holsteinif you have a codec that supports them, they will play.. i would try installing VLC20:58
holsteinthe ubuntu-restricted-extras metapackage should support them.. if not, try looking to see exactly what type of files they are, and search that way20:59
petothat one ishuge package , under hardy i remeber it was not more than 10 mbs or so21:00
petothis one is aroud 75 mbs21:00
holsteinpeto: its a lot of different packages, and codecs21:00
holsteinpeto: if you want support for a video, you'll need to install something to provide that support.. if the metapackage is not suiting your needs due to size, let us know what type of file you are trying to play21:01
petomostly flv, avi,mpg.ogg, wmv mkv21:02
petomp3 is working already don't know how21:03
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/30038/how-can-i-play-mp4-and-avi-files-in-a-movie-player21:03
holsteinsudo apt-get install libavcodec-extra-5221:03
Unit193That's currently only in medibuntu, IIRC.21:04
holsteini always just do the restricted extras package21:04
xs411hello?21:11
xs411I was wondering if anyone has tried installing lubuntu using softRAID or FakeRAID21:11
xs411I'll take that as a no21:17
semitoneshey you guys, hey holstein21:23
semitonesI just bought a new usb drive to try installing lubuntu21:23
semitonesand the new drive also failed cd integrity check21:23
semitoneseven though the .iso file matches the checksum21:23
semitonescan someone else test the iso as well?21:23
Unit193Well, what'd you use to make the bootable flash, and what ISO?21:25
holsteini would assume the downloaded iso is the issue... you can always download any alternate CD, or minimal and insatll lubuntu-desktop21:29
holsteinsemitones: the iso's pass, and install for me21:29
semitoneshmm21:33
semitoneswell I don't see how the downloaded iso could be the issue, since the checksum checks out21:33
semitonesUnit193: I've tried "Startup Creator" and unetbootin, both create usb drives that fail the integrity check consistently, but at different files.21:34
semitonesthe iso was alternate-i38621:34
semitonesi'll try the minimal installation22:04
holsteinsemitones: i would have been using the live iso's22:05
semitonesi have 512 ram22:05
holsteinit would have been lubuntu 11.10 that i used the alternate22:05
semitonesah ok22:05
semitonesi'm kind of paranoid that my laptop's USB drivers are at fault -- just writing the wrong data to the drive22:06
holsteini would make a CD, and take them/it out of the equation22:06
zleapif you download the iso , try running the md5sum check on the iso make sure its OK22:07
holsteinthe checksum checks out.. its failing in another way22:07
zleapok22:07
holsteinsemitones: its failing self diagnostics? or just failing?22:07
semitonesboth22:08
holsteinsemitones: you are making ths stick with unetbootin?22:08
semitonesif I try to install, it fails (sometimes installing the kernel, sometimes something else) and if I run the "check cd for integrity" that finds a corrupted file. I've used both unetbootin and startup disk creator to make these22:08
holsteini would try *any* other iso just for troubleshooting, and make a CD if you can22:09
holsteinstart removing things from the equation and see whats happening22:09
holsteini never had good luck with the alternates and USB22:09
holsteini remember getting it to work back in 10.04, but it was hacky, and since then, i just use the live ones on USB, or make a CD22:10
semitonesok, i'll try some things22:11
semitonesthe alternate CD that I made had no errors,22:11
semitonesI just couldn't use it, because my cd drive ejects randomly22:11
holsteinsemitones: you made an actual CD that worked?22:11
holsteinthat is interesting... have you tested the ram?22:12
holsteinsometimes a bad ram stick can just make odd stuff happen22:12
semitonesyes, the ram was ok. I tried testing the hdd too with smart stuff22:12
semitonesSMART22:12
holsteinsemitones: i cant think of anything obvious.. that is interesting.. seems like you are doing all that i can think of22:12
semitonesi'm giving mini iso a shot22:16
holsteini have taken hard drives over to other machines for the installation22:28
semitonesso far, mini is working :)22:37
semitonesit's on configuring apt now22:37
semitonesso from the mini iso, I'm choosing install "lubuntu minimal installation" but later on I can install lubuntu-desktop i bet22:44
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