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[07:15] <ready_> hi everybody. i've installed lubuntu but when i run it, the screen turns to black and doesnt work. the first screen where lubuntu charges appear, but then everything is gone. what happens? can i solve it? thank you
[07:17] <ready_> anyone? please im in a hurry
[07:19] <ready_> hello?
[07:19] <bioterror> can you go to the console?
[07:19] <bioterror> like tty1 when the screen is black
[07:19] <ready_> no
[07:20] <ready_> the screes is just like on stand by mode
[07:20] <ready_> screen*
[07:20] <bioterror> you mean that it puts itself into standby mode
[07:20] <ready_> seems like, yes
[07:21] <BlitzHere> did the live cd work? what graphics card do you have?
[07:22] <ready_> i didnt use the live cd
[07:22] <ready_> but the alternate installaion
[07:22] <ready_> so i just installed it
[07:22] <ready_> i have a s3 prosavageddr
[07:23] <bioterror> s3, my favourite vendor!
[07:25] <ready_> so... any ideas about what is happening and how to deal with the problem?
[07:26] <bioterror> hard to help if you cant even go to the console
[07:26] <bioterror> I would probably boot into text mode and generate Xorg.conf
[07:27] <bioterror> add to the end of the grub's bootline: text
[07:27] <bioterror> and it should boot you into the console
[07:27] <ready_> could you provide step by step instructions on how to do that? im quite new to linux so i dont want to mess things up
[07:28] <bioterror> when your computer has done the bios chceck, you press left shit key and it should pop-up the grub
[07:28] <bioterror> I hate this "hide the grub" thing
[07:29] <ready_> and then i just write text and press enter?
[07:29] <bioterror> you have to edit the boot line
[07:30] <bioterror> and add just this text after the quiet ro
[07:30] <bioterror> or what was it
[07:30] <bioterror> or is it quiet splash
[07:32] <ready_> i dont know now. wait 5 minutes please, im turning on another pc to work better
[07:44] <ready_> im back
[07:53] <ready_> bioterror im not the grub now
[07:53] <ready_> bioterror: should i write "text" in a new line a the end?
[07:56] <bioterror> you edit the current line
[07:56] <ready_> ok
[07:56] <ready_> the screen goes to standby mode too
[07:57] <ready_> maybe i did it wrong... let me try again
[08:01] <ready_> now i cant enter the grub anymore
[08:01] <ready_> :(
[08:05] <ready_> bioterror:  ok, i can enter something that says grub>
[08:05] <ready_> but if i write ext, it says its an unknown command
[08:05] <ready_> and another screen of grub with several lines
[08:06] <ready_> bioterror:  should i write down here what i can see?
[08:08] <ready_> bioterror:
[08:09] <bioterror> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/Modify-WUBI-Grub2.png
[08:09] <bioterror> when you see something like that
[08:09] <bioterror> on this "linux..." line you add to the end just: text
[08:09] <bioterror> right after quiet splash
[08:10] <bioterror> http://imagecdn.maketecheasier.com/2009/12/ubuntukarmic-edit-grub-entr.png like this one has added "nomodeset"
[08:10] <ready_> ok, got it
[08:10] <ready_> should i login?
[08:10] <bioterror> you should
[08:11] <ready_> ok, ready on text mode
[08:11] <bioterror> so now you can login to your computer?
[08:11] <ready_> tell me what to check now :)
[08:11] <ready_> yes
[08:12] <bioterror> run command: Xorg -configure
[08:12] <bioterror> notice the capital X
[08:13] <ready_> fatal server error: cannot move old log file "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old"
[08:14] <bioterror> hmmmmm
[08:14] <ready_> yep, i thought the same when fatal error appeared lol
[08:14] <bioterror> sudo less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:14] <bioterror> and see what's wrong with it
[08:15] <ready_> alright, lot of text in the screen now
[08:17] <ready_> do you want me to copy something here?
[08:18] <bioterror> you can look for errors yourself
[08:18] <bioterror> you will find something interesting from the bottom :D
[08:19] <ready_> there are no errors
[08:19] <bioterror> really?
[08:19] <ready_> only default setting and settings from config file
[08:19] <bioterror> hmmm
[08:19] <ready_> nothing marked as error, yep
[08:19] <bioterror> oh well
[08:20] <bioterror> sudo rm -rf /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[08:20] <bioterror> does that command work
[08:20] <bioterror> I dunno if you already have that
[08:20] <bioterror> but worth of trying
[08:20] <ready_> let me try
[08:20] <ready_> oh wait wait
[08:21] <ready_> there are more text and i didnt see it lol
[08:21] <ready_> let me read it
[08:21] <bioterror> yeah, pgdown ;)
[08:22] <ready_> there are some warnings too
[08:22] <ready_> are they important?
[08:22] <bioterror> you tell me ,)
[08:23] <ready_> i dont know lol. there are a couple that say "falling back to old probe method for vesa" and another the same but "for fbdev"
[08:23] <bioterror> yeah
[08:23] <bioterror> nothing to worry about
[08:23] <ready_> ok, let me continue
[08:24] <ready_> errors!
[08:25] <ready_> AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/savage_dri.so failed. cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[08:25] <ready_> AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[08:27] <bioterror> that's not fatal yet ;)
[08:27] <ready_> there are no more errors, and i got to the real end :)
[08:27] <bioterror> okay
[08:27] <bioterror> just delete the log file
[08:27] <bioterror> and try to configure Xorg again
[08:28] <ready_> please, tell me what to write
[08:28] <ready_> i dont feel confident at all here
[08:29] <bioterror> sudo rm -rf /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[08:29] <bioterror> Xorg -configure
[08:30] <ready_> how can i exit the log file?
[08:30] <bioterror> q
[08:30] <ready_> thx
[08:31] <ready_> same fatal error
[08:32] <ready_> :(
[08:36] <ready_> bioterror:  this offered a solution, but i dont know at all if that is correct/safe http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/17842/solved-fatal-server-error-cannot-move-old-log-file/
[08:37] <ready_> it seems i dont have the rights to do the operation
[08:37] <ready_> as im not in the root user
[08:37] <ready_> which i probably shoud have used....
[08:44] <ready_> bioterror: should i login as root?
[08:49] <ready_> bioterror
[08:49] <bioterror> sudo = root
[08:49] <ready_> bioterror:  by the way, when trying startx, the same fatal error appear
[08:49] <ready_> bioterror: ok
[08:50] <ready_> bioterror:  have you checked the link i provided?
[08:50] <bioterror> give rm -rf to the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:50] <ready_> i did it
[08:50] <ready_> and tthen tried the configure
[08:50] <bioterror> can you now?
[08:50] <ready_> and same error
[08:50] <bioterror> hmm
[08:51] <bioterror> what if you run command
[08:51] <bioterror> startlubuntu
[08:51] <ready_> lets see
[08:51] <ready_> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display
[08:51] <bioterror> hmmm
[08:52] <bioterror> nice
[08:52] <ready_> nice? lol
[08:58] <bioterror> you can try that dpkg-reconfigure line from the link you posted
[08:58] <ready_> bioterror:  any more ideas?
[08:58] <ready_> ok
[09:01] <ready_> and then?
[09:02] <bioterror> try startlubuntu command
[09:02] <ready_> same: Gtk-WARNING cannot open display
[09:03] <bioterror> are you using ssh or something else?
[09:03] <ready_> i thought that would be easier
[09:03] <bioterror> you need to do that from command line :D
[09:03] <bioterror> not from ssh
[09:04] <ready_> to do what?
[09:05] <bioterror> you cant run graphical commands thru ssh
[09:05] <bioterror> (except -X ;)
[09:06] <ready_> bioterror:  omg i dont know where i am
[09:06] <ready_> how can i know if im on the ssh or in the command line?
[09:06] <bioterror> are you using the keyboard attached to the computer that does not come to graphical interface
[09:06] <ready_> im so sorry if im wasting ur time... definitely this is quite complicated to me
[09:06] <bioterror> or what are you using?
[09:07] <ready_> bioterror: yes, im using the keyboard, no graphics, black background and white letter
[09:07] <ready_> letters*
[09:09] <ready_> i edited the grub, adding the text. it entered in text mode (said in the header ubuntu etc etc tty1). then i logged in
[09:09] <ready_> and there i am
[09:09] <ready_> whatever@whatever: ~$
[09:10] <ready_> and there is where i write
[09:10] <bioterror> yes
[09:10] <bioterror> but still cant figure out why it says this cannot open display
[09:11] <bioterror> but I have to pack my laptop to my backbag and move to another site
[09:11] <ready_> bioterror:  are you coming back?
[09:11] <bioterror> maybe, maybe not :D
[09:11] <ready_> :(
[09:11] <bioterror> I have work todo
[09:11] <ready_> i understand
[09:12] <ready_> do you anyone i can ask or something?
[09:12] <ready_> know*
[09:14] <ready_> maybe so in the channel
[09:14] <bioterror> hey
[09:15] <bioterror> what if you run command: sudo service lightdm start
[09:17] <ready_> its thinking
[09:17] <ready_> wait
[09:18] <ready_> nothing
[09:18] <ready_> standby mode
[09:18] <bioterror> okay
[09:19] <bioterror> sounds really a graphics card problem
[09:19] <bioterror> but now I'm off, laters
[09:19] <ready_> bioterror:  can i ask someone else? do u know?
[09:19] <ready_> and thank you very much anyway :)
[09:25] <ready_> anyone else here in the channel??
[09:26] <lubu> hello.   I just installed the OTR plugin for pidgin, and I'm really new to Pidgin.   How can I tell if I'm encrypted or not?
[09:27] <lubu> or is it just for private IM ?
[09:39] <ready_> hello.  i want to replace my graphics card driver for an update ive found. how can i do it? on the command line
[09:46] <ready_> please, i need help
[09:46] <ready_> im desperate :(
[09:50] <lubu> i think they must be busy right now.... try leaving a message on the official Lubuntu Facebook page.
[09:51] <lubu> I've had a lot of great answers on the facebook page
[09:51] <lubu> and apparently, a lot of the folks in here are also watching the FB page
[16:30] <joossee> is there a trick to adding new shortcuts to the applications menu? after right clicking and choosing "add new shortcut" I get to name it and then nothing...?
[16:41] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_make.2BAC8-add_an_application_to_the_.22start.22_menu. There is the guide.
[17:24] <leszek> hi
[17:26] <Unit193> Howdy.
[18:06] <kristian-T61p> cheers
[18:06] <kristian-T61p> holstein, holla
[18:07] <kristian-T61p> so I keep having this annoying thing where lxpanel loses most of the buttons... I have to open a terminal and go "lxpanelctl restart" to fix it
[18:10] <leszek> never heard or had such a bug. What Lubuntu version and lxpanel are you using ?
[18:12] <kristian-T61p> http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1484
[18:12] <kristian-T61p> hi leszek
[18:13] <kristian-T61p> lxpanel 0.5.8
[18:13] <kristian-T61p> Lubuntu is 12.04
[18:14] <kristian-T61p> the crazy thing is that I had Mint on this box before, and the panel there (Gnome, I believe) had a similar issue
[18:16] <holstein> kristian-T61p: o/
[18:16] <holstein> what are you adding to it?
[18:16] <holstein> i would either try the default panel live, or with a new user, see if you get it to "break"... if not, look at how you are configuring it..
[18:17] <kristian-T61p> holstein, only minor things... actually, I think all I have which is not default is a shortcut to LXterminal
[18:18] <kristian-T61p> good thinking to try with a new user, I'll do that
[18:19] <kristian-T61p> bbl
[18:19] <leszek> the t61 has a dual core cpu I guess. Maybe its a race condition in lxpanel. But that is only speculation :P
[18:23] <kristian-T61p> hi
[18:24] <kristian-T61p> holstein, I managed to reproduce
[18:24] <kristian-T61p> for instance, when I have ran XBMC, it happens
[18:25] <holstein> maybe try running from the terminal for the output
[18:26] <leszek> or try looking in .xsession-error in your home directory
[18:28] <kristian-T61p> let me paste you my .xsession-errors
[18:28] <kristian-T61p> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1100579/
[18:28] <Unit193> www.pastebin.com
[18:29] <kristian-T61p> hello, nemesis
[18:29] <kristian-T61p> ;)
[18:29] <leszek> kristian-T61p: nothing unusual
[18:30] <kristian-T61p> and here's .old: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1100583/
[18:30] <kristian-T61p> I can't make head and/ or tails of that
[18:31] <holstein> xbmc takes over the screen, right?
[18:31] <kristian-T61p> yes
[18:31] <leszek> kristian-T61p: hmm... this is somehow bad: "lxpanel: Fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server :0." Maybe your harddisk or filesystem is broken
[18:31] <kristian-T61p> but, this happens with stuff that does not take over the screen too
[18:32] <kristian-T61p> leszek, everything works fine... there is only this one thing that is causing me trouble
[18:32] <leszek> kristian-T61p: please test from a live usb and try to reproduce it there. If you can't please try checking your harddrive
[18:32] <holstein> id force a filesystem check and test the memory..
[18:32] <kristian-T61p> this is a Think-Pad, people :;
[18:32] <holstein> troubleshooting with a live CD is just too easy not to try it
[18:33] <holstein> kristian-T61p: ?
[18:33] <holstein> all hard drives fail
[18:33] <kristian-T61p> they don't break, period
[18:33] <kristian-T61p> yes
[18:33] <kristian-T61p> especially IBM ones, I'm afraid
[18:33] <holstein> nah.. i got a stack of old broken thinkpads
[18:33] <holstein> first mistake is to assume something is not broken... just test it down and make sure... literally wont hurt
[18:33] <kristian-T61p> I was half-joking.... they are pretty cool still
[18:34] <kristian-T61p> yeah
[18:34] <holstein> the live CD is an easy way
[18:34] <kristian-T61p> I don't have a livecd handy, I think
[18:34] <holstein> most of my error troubleshooting starts with a live CD or USB
[18:34] <kristian-T61p> yes, it's nice to rule out stuff
[18:35] <holstein> its key to rule out possibilities :)
[18:35] <kristian-T61p> elementary and all that ;)
[18:41] <kristian-T61p> I just borrowed a Zorin Lite, let me try that - should be the same panel
[18:42] <kristian-T61p> wait... ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
[18:42] <holstein> assume nothing
[18:42] <Unit193> Could always make a boot flash.
[18:43] <kristian-T61p> yeah... I'll try this first
[19:49] <kristian-aalborg> hello again, gang
[19:50] <kristian-aalborg> so, I ran the Zorin Lite cd... I could not reproduce the error, but then again, I did not have any programs that were known to trigger the fault
[20:09] <peto> hi
[20:10] <peto> thanks for lubuntu
[20:10] <peto> for the first time I installed lubuntu, and I am loving it
[20:11] <peto> just wondering, how to install adobe flash,
[20:11] <peto> it said wrong version is installed so I can't watch that video
[20:11] <holstein> i just use the chrome browser
[20:11] <peto> excuse me?
[20:12] <Unit193> holstein: Sadness.... :P
[20:12] <bioterror> enable partner repository and install flash from there
[20:12] <Unit193> peto: You can install flshplugin-installer, or... That ^^
[20:12] <peto> how do I do that bioterror?
[20:13] <Unit193> !partner
[20:13] <ubottu> Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" »
[20:14] <peto> $lsb_release-sc ?
[20:15] <Unit193> Open terminal, paste    sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[20:18] <peto> ok
[20:19] <peto> I don't see any flash in package manager
[20:24] <shmo> hello everyone
[20:40] <peto> can't watch video
[20:41] <Unit193> Did you install the plugin?
[20:42] <peto> tried this command sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras flashplugin-nonfree
[20:42] <peto> doesn't work
[20:43] <Unit193> No, it'd be adobe-flashplugin, but pastebin.com the output of   dpkg -l |grep flash
[20:43] <Unit193> (May have to apt-get update if you haven't done so.)
[20:53] <peto> flash works now , but other videos
[20:53] <peto> don't
[20:55] <holstein> peto: i use the chrome browser.. its got the latest flash built in.. this is my "workaround" for not getting flash support any longer for linux
[20:56] <peto> thats good
[20:56] <Unit193> But you have to use Chrome...
[20:56] <peto> i m talking about other videos
[20:56] <holstein> Unit193: its a compromise for sure.. but i dont mind it actually, though i would prefer chromium
[20:57] <holstein> peto: what "other" videos? ... i had some other videos thats didnt play, and i went with chrome, and they all work
[20:57] <peto> i have videos on my hard drive
[20:58] <holstein> if you have a codec that supports them, they will play.. i would try installing VLC
[20:59] <holstein> the ubuntu-restricted-extras metapackage should support them.. if not, try looking to see exactly what type of files they are, and search that way
[21:00] <peto> that one ishuge package , under hardy i remeber it was not more than 10 mbs or so
[21:00] <peto> this one is aroud 75 mbs
[21:00] <holstein> peto: its a lot of different packages, and codecs
[21:01] <holstein> peto: if you want support for a video, you'll need to install something to provide that support.. if the metapackage is not suiting your needs due to size, let us know what type of file you are trying to play
[21:02] <peto> mostly flv, avi,mpg.ogg, wmv mkv
[21:03] <peto> mp3 is working already don't know how
[21:03] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30038/how-can-i-play-mp4-and-avi-files-in-a-movie-player
[21:03] <holstein> sudo apt-get install libavcodec-extra-52
[21:04] <Unit193> That's currently only in medibuntu, IIRC.
[21:04] <holstein> i always just do the restricted extras package
[21:11] <xs411> hello?
[21:11] <xs411> I was wondering if anyone has tried installing lubuntu using softRAID or FakeRAID
[21:17] <xs411> I'll take that as a no
[21:23] <semitones> hey you guys, hey holstein
[21:23] <semitones> I just bought a new usb drive to try installing lubuntu
[21:23] <semitones> and the new drive also failed cd integrity check
[21:23] <semitones> even though the .iso file matches the checksum
[21:23] <semitones> can someone else test the iso as well?
[21:25] <Unit193> Well, what'd you use to make the bootable flash, and what ISO?
[21:29] <holstein> i would assume the downloaded iso is the issue... you can always download any alternate CD, or minimal and insatll lubuntu-desktop
[21:29] <holstein> semitones: the iso's pass, and install for me
[21:33] <semitones> hmm
[21:33] <semitones> well I don't see how the downloaded iso could be the issue, since the checksum checks out
[21:34] <semitones> Unit193: I've tried "Startup Creator" and unetbootin, both create usb drives that fail the integrity check consistently, but at different files.
[21:34] <semitones> the iso was alternate-i386
[22:04] <semitones> i'll try the minimal installation
[22:05] <holstein> semitones: i would have been using the live iso's
[22:05] <semitones> i have 512 ram
[22:05] <holstein> it would have been lubuntu 11.10 that i used the alternate
[22:05] <semitones> ah ok
[22:06] <semitones> i'm kind of paranoid that my laptop's USB drivers are at fault -- just writing the wrong data to the drive
[22:06] <holstein> i would make a CD, and take them/it out of the equation
[22:07] <zleap> if you download the iso , try running the md5sum check on the iso make sure its OK
[22:07] <holstein> the checksum checks out.. its failing in another way
[22:07] <zleap> ok
[22:07] <holstein> semitones: its failing self diagnostics? or just failing?
[22:08] <semitones> both
[22:08] <holstein> semitones: you are making ths stick with unetbootin?
[22:08] <semitones> if I try to install, it fails (sometimes installing the kernel, sometimes something else) and if I run the "check cd for integrity" that finds a corrupted file. I've used both unetbootin and startup disk creator to make these
[22:09] <holstein> i would try *any* other iso just for troubleshooting, and make a CD if you can
[22:09] <holstein> start removing things from the equation and see whats happening
[22:09] <holstein> i never had good luck with the alternates and USB
[22:10] <holstein> i remember getting it to work back in 10.04, but it was hacky, and since then, i just use the live ones on USB, or make a CD
[22:11] <semitones> ok, i'll try some things
[22:11] <semitones> the alternate CD that I made had no errors,
[22:11] <semitones> I just couldn't use it, because my cd drive ejects randomly
[22:11] <holstein> semitones: you made an actual CD that worked?
[22:12] <holstein> that is interesting... have you tested the ram?
[22:12] <holstein> sometimes a bad ram stick can just make odd stuff happen
[22:12] <semitones> yes, the ram was ok. I tried testing the hdd too with smart stuff
[22:12] <semitones> SMART
[22:12] <holstein> semitones: i cant think of anything obvious.. that is interesting.. seems like you are doing all that i can think of
[22:16] <semitones> i'm giving mini iso a shot
[22:28] <holstein> i have taken hard drives over to other machines for the installation
[22:37] <semitones> so far, mini is working :)
[22:37] <semitones> it's on configuring apt now
[22:44] <semitones> so from the mini iso, I'm choosing install "lubuntu minimal installation" but later on I can install lubuntu-desktop i bet
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