[06:46] <dpm> morning all
[06:48] <ajmitch> hi
[07:34] <dpm> hey ajmitch, how are you doing?
[07:52] <ajmitch> dpm: good thanks, how are you?
[07:53] <dpm> ajmitch, good as well, voting on the judge sheet and changing some statuses in myapps :)
[07:53] <ajmitch> I can see I've got a lot to vote on tonight
[07:53] <dpm> I'm going to e-mail all contest developers whose app is in Needs Information too, so that they come back to us
[07:55]  * ajmitch will try & go through those that have 2 votes already, they should be quick :)
[07:57] <dpm> excellent
[07:59] <dpm> if someone could go through the contest entries on the 'Reply from Developer' list on https://trello.com/board/ubuntu-arb-submissions/4fee2215cee295013c0862ba that'd be great too, which would reduce the list of apps pending review
[08:04]  * ajmitch will take a look if there's time later
[08:07] <OwaisL> dpm: Hey, I've already fixed the copyright file issue in fogger that was raised on the ML earlier today. :)
[08:07] <dpm> thanks ajmitch
[08:09]  * ajmitch wishes the dash would respond in < 30 sec on his desktop
[08:09] <dpm> and thanks OwaisL. The ARB members will now be able to resume the vote on your app, good work!
[08:26] <dpm> ok, sent the e-mail to a bunch of people, I hope I'm not blocked for spam :)
[08:28] <ajmitch> I hope not :)
[08:29] <ajmitch> I'm sure that for some of these apps the generated debian/rules is just about bigger than the app
[12:16] <coolbhavi> hey highvoltage dpm
[12:16] <highvoltage> hey coolbhavi
[12:17] <dpm> hi coolbhavi
[12:17] <dpm> hey highvoltage
[12:18] <coolbhavi> highvoltage, I just saw a comment like reviewing this app 30000 feet over atlantic :) where are you now?
[12:18] <coolbhavi> in SA?
[12:19] <highvoltage> coolbhavi: back in canada, was in debconf in nicaragua and was on my way back
[12:19] <dpm> nice :)
[12:19] <coolbhavi> highvoltage, oh nice :)
[12:21] <dpm> coolbhavi, highvoltage, if you've got some time, do you think you could have a look at the contest entries on the 'Reply from Developer' list on https://trello.com/board/ubuntu-arb-submissions/4fee2215cee295013c0862ba ? I think some of them might be up for voting or nearly, and they might require just a few minutes and a status update
[12:24] <highvoltage> dpm: I could, however I'm prioritising current votes, I still have around 30 outstanding ones
[12:24] <highvoltage> dpm: I'll do that after them
[12:25] <dpm> highvoltage, excellent, thanks a lot
[12:46] <coolbhavi> dpm, I just had a quick look through and moved ppa software center into voting status
[12:46] <dpm> nice!
[12:46] <dpm> awesome coolbhavi, thanks
[12:47] <coolbhavi> dpm, no mention
[12:57] <coolbhavi> mhall119, hey
[13:41] <mhall119> coolbhavi: hello
[13:41] <coolbhavi> mhall119, pm?
[13:41] <mhall119> sure
[14:29] <dpm> mhall119, do you have a rough count of how many quickly apps were submitted for the contest?
[14:29] <mhall119> dpm: not quickly apps, no
[14:29] <dpm> mhall119, did you not import all quickly apps to quickly-gtk?
[14:30] <mhall119> no, just the ones I had local branches for because I was reviewing them
[14:31]  * highvoltage can only say so far "a large number of them"
[14:31] <highvoltage> it's noticable because the quickly apps have become really quick and easy to review
[14:33] <mhall119> dpm: I can probably modify dholbach's apps-brancher to look for .quickly files, but it'll take a while
[14:33] <mhall119> is this for the stats jono wanted yesterday?
[14:34] <dpm> mhall119, yeah, but don't worry about it. It's not an important stat for now. I was just asking in case getting the number was a matter of a couple of mins
[19:25]  * highvoltage gets open arb votes down from 32 or so to 24
[19:25] <highvoltage> (well, of the ones I had open, anyway)
[19:38] <ajmitch> highvoltage: awesome work
[20:12] <achuni> success
[20:13] <achuni> eh, wrong channel :)
[20:54] <highvoltage> are javascript libraries allowed in arb app?
[20:55] <highvoltage> like if someone ships jquery with their app?
[20:59] <ajmitch> that'd be borderline, especially as we have libjs-jquery in the archive
[21:00] <highvoltage> yeah I saw it depends on it as well, so I guess they've been meaning to use the packaged files
[21:00] <highvoltage> I commented about it on myapps
[21:00] <ajmitch> which app?
[21:00] <highvoltage> lightread
[21:01]  * ajmitch just saw a comment come through from you about copyright, you didn't mention jquery
[21:01] <highvoltage> hmm, I'm sure I did
[21:01] <ajmitch> search for jquery on https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1225/feedback/
[21:02] <highvoltage> "Even though it ships those files, it's also marked as dependencies in the control file. It might be that you just need to link to the installed ones and not ship them anymore."
[21:02] <highvoltage> ah right
[21:02] <highvoltage> I see
[21:03] <ajmitch> what does it use them for?
[21:03] <ajmitch> does it wrap some html view?
[21:03] <highvoltage> yeah seems to show it in a webkit browser
[21:05] <ajmitch> btw, what are your thoughts on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/app-review-board/2012-July/001380.html ? I asked him to email the list about it
[21:05] <ajmitch> I'm guessing that we'd need to beg the TB for another exception
[21:06] <ajmitch> I'd ping mr graber but I suspect he's a little busy :)
[21:13] <highvoltage> ajmitch: "Unfortunately this causes errors
[21:13] <highvoltage> when running arb-lint on the application."
[21:13] <highvoltage> is that the actual problem?
[21:16] <ajmitch> well, the problem is that the have a nautilus extension, it can't live in /opt
[21:16] <ajmitch> like writing lenses
[21:17] <highvoltage> in cases like that I guess it's an app that should go into the archives
[21:18] <ajmitch> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1020/feedback/ is the app itself, it'd be usable (but less so) without the nautilus extension
[21:18] <stgraber> ajmitch: my own opinion at this point (TB hat on) is -1
[21:18] <ajmitch> stgraber: I figured it would be
[21:18] <stgraber> nautilus extensions have pretty broad access to nautilus IIRC and failure to load crashes nautilus completely
[21:19] <stgraber> so the stability of your desktop depends on how good your suckiest extension is, not sure we want that
[21:19] <ajmitch> george_e: how functional is nitroshare without the extension?
[21:19] <stgraber> (I wrote a nautilus extension, so I have a vague idea of how bad that stuff is ;))
[21:20] <ajmitch> yeah I've had to hack out some bad extensions in the past :)
[21:20] <george_e> ajmitch: Fully functional.
[21:20] <george_e> It doesn't depend on the extension in any way.
[21:20] <george_e> The extension merely uses the XML RPC API exposed by the application.
[21:20] <ajmitch> george_e: ok, it looks like we'll need it updated to not include it in the package then, sorry
[21:21] <george_e> ajmitch: Yeah, that's okay.
[21:21] <ajmitch> once you can upload to the PPA properly :)
[21:21] <george_e> Yeah, turns out I was using the wrong PGP key.
[21:22] <stgraber> to be fair, I haven't looked at the nautilus3 API, but I don't expect it to be mucher better than nautilus2
[21:22] <george_e> I'm fixing that now as we speak.
[21:22] <ajmitch> stgraber: pretty sure that nautilus-python extensions will still be in-process
[21:23] <stgraber> ideally you'd expect some kind of clear separation between the core and the extensions, similar to what unity does, so that the world doesn't blow up when an extension crash (and considering how much fun python can be with file encodings, you have to expect it to go wrong pretty often...)
[21:23] <ajmitch> right, unity may be a bit slow talking over dbus, but at least my buggy lense doesn't kill my desktop
[23:18] <george_e> ajmitch: Okay, I've stripped out the Nautilus extension and uploaded packages here: https://code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/+archive/nitroshare/+packages
[23:18] <george_e> It may take a few minutes before they finish building.
[23:18] <ajmitch> george_e: ok, can you comment on that in the myapps submission?
[23:19] <george_e> ajmitch: Sure.
[23:20] <george_e> ajmitch: There. Also - I made a note that I have only removed the extension from the packages in the PPA - the extension is still in the code branch.
[23:21] <george_e> ajmitch: Wait a minute - Launchpad is returning funny errors.
[23:22] <george_e> I think I need to re-upload the packages again :(
[23:22]  * george_e is really having a bad day.
[23:59] <george_e> ajmitch: Okay, I finally got it fixed and published for Precise. The other series are just catching up.