[02:34] <cfhowlett> upgrade to 12.04 delayed to painfully slow download speeds in China but: mission accomplished.  12.04 64  bit now in full effect.  While exploring graphics options I found ~ NO font manager???
[02:36] <len-dt> cfhowlett, Being an audio guy... what does a font manager do?
[02:45] <cfhowlett> len-dt: in previous versions, display the various fonts for preview purposes and/or create a catalog for design purposes
[02:46] <len-dt> Is there one that you like over others?
[02:46] <cfhowlett> whatever the default was in 10.04 was fine for me.  No opinion on others I never tried them.
[02:47] <len-dt> There is talk of creating a publishing workflow, so that would fit in.
[02:47] <cfhowlett> len-dt: I HIGHLY recommend it.  You never know what you'll miss until it's gone.
[02:47] <len-dt> Though of course it would be useful in graphics as well.
[02:48] <cfhowlett> In re: audio, is there a podcast workflow available?
[02:48] <len-dt> I would hope the tools are there, but an official workflow no.
[02:49] <cfhowlett> len-dt: is there a workflow template?  I would be willing to take a crack at writing one ...
[02:49] <len-dt> Any of the podcatses I have listened to have just been recorded conversations, so I may be missing something.
[02:49] <cfhowlett> len-dt: workflow = how to with the available tools, right?
[02:50] <len-dt> Yes. And suggest tools if they are not available. It is ok to add more.
[02:51] <cfhowlett> yeah, all the tools seem to be standard in US, but I haven't seen a write up.
[02:51] <len-dt> We are also looking at a menu item that open software center with extra software that makes sense to that menu.
[02:51] <len-dt> ailo, is working on docs starting next week some time... though he has lots done too.
[02:52] <len-dt> Lots of the web page is his.
[02:52] <cfhowlett> I'll keep a lookout.  As it is, my local LUG has expressed interest in podcasting with Ubuntu, so I'll draft up something for them.
[02:53] <len-dt> Great! we could use a copy or even a link to it.
[02:53] <cfhowlett> len-dt: wilco
[02:53] <len-dt> where in the menus we have now would you put a font manager?
[02:53] <cfhowlett> graphics
[02:54] <len-dt> Right. There is a package called font-manager. (gnome) I will sugest we add that or ask for something better.
[02:54] <cfhowlett> note: this is to be distinguished from the font CREATION tools which also seem to be gone
[02:55] <len-dt> I don't know if we should go there, but will ask. The one I am talking about seems to be install and preview
[02:56] <len-dt> I don't think these will be backported to 12.04, but a good possibility for 12.10.
[02:56] <cfhowlett> len-dt: exactly what I had in mind.  Makes a nice tool for demo'ing US to creatives
[02:57] <len-dt> It also doesn't seem to drag along any depends.
[02:58] <cfhowlett> len-dt: nice.
[02:59] <len-dt> and it happens to end up in the right submenu.
[02:59] <cfhowlett> len-dt: "I love it when a plan comes together."
[03:00] <len-dt> I seem to be the main worker bee these days, so I will ask and if no complaints over a week, just do it.
[03:06] <cfhowlett> len-dt: thanks.  looking forward to it.  Backport would be nice as I only boot LTS releases
[03:07] <len-dt> apt-get install font-manager
[03:07] <len-dt> (with sudo)
[03:07] <cfhowlett> right.  thanks
[14:50] <BitPuffin> Weh, right click is very slow :(
[14:51] <BitPuffin> Well, desktop right click anyway, rest is good
[15:03] <Mish> Hello People! Is anybody online right now? If yes can I ask a  question?
[21:30] <Mish> Um Hello! Is anyone online?
[21:31] <GridCube> !anyone
[21:35] <Mish> Haha I was expecting something like that. Anyways, on to my question. I run Ubuntu Studio and I want to remove a specific program, MyPaint. However if I try to do that (either via the software centre or synaptics) I am told that I need to remove this package as well, "ubuntustudio-graphics". I want to know whether doing this will remove all graphics packages too like inkscape and blender.
[21:36] <GridCube> if im not mistaken, that i might, ubuntustudio-graphics might be just a metapackage, so deleting it wont do any harm
[21:36] <Unit193> Nope, it's fine to remove.
[21:38] <Mish> Thank You (Please forgive me for any inconvenience. Next time I'll be well versed with IRC etiquette)
[21:38] <GridCube> ;) no problem