[03:24] <Space-Duck> Anyone know why Docky refuses to accept terminal and thunar launchers? Only seems to happen under xubuntu.
[03:52] <craigbass1976> what are people going to use once Thunderbird development stops?
[03:56] <Space-Duck> Anyone know why Docky refuses to accept terminal and thunar launchers? Only seems to happen under xubuntu.
[03:59] <Cogito> The Seamonkey suite include a mail client.
[03:59] <Space-Duck> I'll be using web-based email... just like I'm using now.
[04:03] <craigbass1976> Space-Duck, I'm not always on the internet when traveling about though (Rural Maine) and need to get at email stored on my laptop, so webmail isn't an option.  Anyone used claws mail?
[04:04] <Space-Duck> craigbass1976,  I'm confused... What good is email without the internet? Most web based email systems allow you to export your emails (for offline browsing).
[04:05] <Space-Duck> I have more email than I would want to store on my system... but maybe thats just me
[04:05] <craigbass1976> Space-Duck, I've never played with them.  mail2web I think is the only one I've used.
[04:08] <Space-Duck> craigbass1976, you may want to consider using gmail and mounting it to Linux via gmailfs.
[04:26] <Cogito> Space-Duck: If privacy is in the horizon, then lavabit may be an option to gmail. xD
[06:30] <phidog> guys i need a bit of help with xrandr
[08:03] <peedatxubuntu> Is there anyone willing to help?
[08:04] <annoyedwithxubun> hello can anyone help me
[08:16] <well_laid_lawn> annoyedwithxubun: it all depends on what your issue is
[08:17] <annoyedwithxubun> well where do I begin
[08:17] <annoyedwithxubun> i downloaded a virus by accident onto my windows vista pc
[08:18] <annoyedwithxubun> this corrupted my boot manager
[08:18] <v1adimir> !ask
[08:18] <annoyedwithxubun> sorry
[08:18] <v1adimir> :)
[08:19] <annoyedwithxubun> I cant boot into my xubuntu partition however it keeps bringing up my corrupted winodws boot manager
[08:19] <annoyedwithxubun> *windows
[08:20] <v1adimir> what shows up on boot, grub?
[08:21] <well_laid_lawn> it's not xubuntu bringing up the corrupted boot manager
[08:21] <annoyedwithxubun> it the corrupted windows boot manager I thought grub was supposed to overwrite it
[08:22] <v1adimir> it's separate, grub just calls the windows boot manager if it detects it
[08:22] <well_laid_lawn> it would of if it was installed to the hard disk not a partition
[08:23] <v1adimir> ^
[08:23] <annoyedwithxubun> is there a way to boot directly into xubutu
[08:24] <ablomen> annoyedwithxubun, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Using_the_Ubuntu_CD_.28Recommended.29 << try this
[08:39] <silverlion> good morning from germany ;)
[08:40] <v1adimir> mornin'
[08:42] <silverlion> i think about switching from mint 12 to xubuntu having an old desktop from 2003. what do you think ?
[08:43] <Dice> I've never used mint, but xubuntu is great
[08:47] <silverlion> heard about it ... but i am so fixed about having that list with applications and stuff at the bottom of the screen instead of at the top. that is what kept me till now
[08:52] <Dice> you can easily throw panels to any edge of screen with xubuntu, or center of it
[08:53] <silverlion> dice via drag and drop?
[09:19] <annoyedwithxubun> to get grub as the overwriting boot loader do I install it to "/dev/sda" ,the disk,or "/dev/sda8" ,the partition,
[09:23] <Dice> silverlion: yes, after unlocking in preferences
[09:23] <silverlion> Dice: how to unlock it?
[09:24] <Dice> right click -> preferences -> uncheck checkbox for locking
[09:24] <Dice> annoyedwithxubun: MBR aka. disk, sda
[09:25] <annoyedwithxubun> thanks
[09:26] <silverlion> Dice: thx man! will try with desktop cd tonight after work ;)
[09:33] <annoyedwithxubun> hopefully the last question to get my pc working. How can I fix an unknown format error that apears on my screen on boot?
[09:56] <Marzata> annoyedwithxubun: new hdd?
[09:58] <annoyedwithxubun> no just installed xubuntu then had use boot-repair
[10:26] <andy_newuser> hi all, new to this channel and have a question...is the etiquette just to describe the whole thing is one go plse?
[10:29] <xubuntunewb> !ask
[10:30] <andy_newuser> !patience
[10:33] <andy_newuser> thanks. Running xubuntu12.04 with xfce 4.8. Have a few niggles that I am working to solve, nothing fatal. Current issue is that when I login the xfce background reverts to the default wallpaper. when i remove it and set the background to a single block of colour (my preference) all is ok until I reboot/logoff and on login again the default wallpaper returns. searched google and forums to try and get the background sett
[10:33] <andy_newuser> ing to be remembered. Any clues or thoughts to solve please?
[10:41] <knome> andy_newuser, i don't know if it helps, but try removing /home/youruser/.cache
[10:42] <xubuntunewb> andy try this site http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1505392.html
[10:51] <andy_newuser> i will try, and report back, thank you :)
[11:12] <andy_newuser> knome, im afraid deleting the cache didn't work. I'm not specifying a new wallpaper in terms of a picture or file, just no wallpaper and a blue background from the desktop background settings window. the file that keeps coming back is xubuntu-greybird
[11:23] <xubuntunewb> andy try this site http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1505392.html
[11:32] <xubuntu598> Hi, there is a mistake at page http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/. "Create the file /usr/apt/apt.conf.d/05norecommends ...", should be "Create the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/05norecommends ...". :)
[11:47] <xubuntunewb> I have a problem with my monitor. when I boot I get a message on it saying unkown format. My pc works with a borrowed monitor and my monitor works with my laptop so both work fine.
[12:16] <andy_newuser> Solved: I have solved the problem of wallpaper reappearing, by thinking laterally. in essence for some reason the settings for my single monitor were being pulled in by the setting for monitor 1 and 2 in the background settings menu, with my background being made up of a combination of the two. Don't know why, but set the monitor 2 parameters to the same as monitor 1 and all ok! Why this happens is a mystery to me. Whe
[12:16] <andy_newuser> re is a good place to post this solution on the web please and should i report this as a bug?
[14:38] <BitPuffin> Hey!
[14:38] <BitPuffin> Any ideas why the right click is so slow on my machines?
[14:46] <lJ6il> Hello. New installation of Xubuntu and my VLC crackles when a sound is played
[14:46] <lJ6il> It's awful. I don't know why
[14:46] <lJ6il> Does someone has clues ?
[14:47] <BitPuffin> lJ6il, Don't know, sounds good on  my machine. Try fiddling with some settings?
[14:48] <lJ6il> BitPuffin, i did. I tried to change the out sound module
[14:49] <lJ6il> With pulse audio it doesn't play anything.
[14:49] <lJ6il> With OSS it crackles too
[14:50] <lJ6il> With alsa no sound
[14:50] <lJ6il> but with other players it's ok
[14:51] <BitPuffin> try reinstalling haha
[14:52] <lJ6il> BitPuffin, haha
[14:53] <BitPuffin> Honestly, I've got no clue
[14:54] <Dice> lJ6il: let it play for about a minute, some pulseaudio option should work
[14:55] <Dice> (oss is emulated by pulseaudio nowdays)
[15:01] <lJ6il> Dice, nope doesn't change
[15:08] <lJ6il> Problem solved installing the nightly VLC
[15:08] <lJ6il> Thanks
[15:16] <n0b2> grub2 input not supported.. where is the startup manager?
[15:17] <n0b2> or how do i fix this
[18:13] <accordix> sera
[18:14] <accordix> qualcuno on?
[18:14] <Unit193> !it
[18:15] <accordix> tank's
[18:15] <Unit193> Sure.
[18:52] <xubuntu449> Hello?
[18:53] <pAt_> hello xubuntu449
[18:53] <xubuntu449> hello?
[18:53] <xubuntu449> Is anyone there?
[18:54] <pAt_> 107 ppl
[18:54] <xubuntu449> Oh, I'd like to report an issue with xubuntu.
[18:54] <Unit193> ChanServ doesn't count, nor ubottu...
[18:54] <pAt_> :D
[18:55] <Unit193> xubuntu449: It's best to report a bug rather than here as we normally can't do anything about it, but what's up?
[18:55] <xubuntu449> Well, it freezes constantly. Sometimes it recovers, but when the curser turns to a hand and it freezes, as described in this link:http://www.mentby.com/Group/xubuntu-users/xubuntu-freezes.html
[18:56] <xubuntu449> it will not recover
[18:56] <xubuntu449> I did figure out it is a problem having to do with X server because I just restarted X and it started working just fine after.
[18:59] <Unit193> Ah, if it's what I think it is, check syslog or dmesg for a line like "GPU hanging too fast, declaring wedged" or close to it.
[19:00] <Unit193> (Granted, very easily could be something else)  What card/driver?
[19:00] <xubuntu449> Is syslog a file or a command?
[19:01] <Unit193> System log file: /var/log/syslog
[19:01] <Unit193> dmesg is a command though.
[19:01] <xubuntu449> Ok, I am finding it now
[19:05] <xubuntu449> Ok, I did find a GPU being hung
[19:05] <xubuntu449> and some other GPU errors
[19:06] <Unit193> What's the line say?  And are you using a 82845G/GL (or close) Intel built-in?  What version of Xubuntu anyway?
[19:08] <xubuntu449> My version is Ubuntu 12.04 LTS(that's what it's saying), but it's running xubuntu. The line says "*ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed...GPU hung"
[19:09] <xubuntu449> After it it says "failed to execute 'usr/share/apport/apport-gpu-error-intel.py'
[19:12] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/i8xxUnsupported  I have 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)  and Xubuntu 12.04 has been more stable than the others, but I still get a few problems with this card.
[19:15] <xubuntu449> So who should I take this to? It isn't any particular program that's doing it. I think, like you said, it may be a hardware and software problem. Will most other ubuntu-based linuxes act like this?
[19:16] <Unit193> AFAIK, just a bit, yep.
[19:20] <xubuntu449> Well thank you very much for your help, and like I said, who should I report this to?
[19:21] <TheKing> I have Xubuntu 12.04, but it works fine.
[19:24] <Unit193> xubuntu449: Well, pretty sure there's already a few or so, but if it's the same card it's generally marked as unsupported, so not a ton of luck there.
[19:24] <xubuntu449> Ok, well thank you and see you later
[19:25] <Unit193> Sorry I couldn't help, have a nice one.
[23:28] <fusk> hello, new to xubuntu, but just ran into a problem.
[23:29] <fusk> I removed stuff from my dock, suddenly my icons starts jumping left and right, and are now stuck in the left corner, how do i center align them again ?
[23:30] <fusk> hello, new to xubuntu, but just ran into a problem.
[23:30] <fusk> I removed stuff from my dock, suddenly my icons starts jumping left and right, and are now stuck in the left corner, how do i center align them again ?
[23:30] <Unit193> Don't need to repeat, and there should be a thin spacer.
[23:31] <fusk> oh sorry, didn't know you could see that
[23:31] <fusk> thought i had to be identified by nickserv to write in channels
[23:31] <Unit193> Yep, makes sense.
[23:32] <fusk> as the nick is registered
[23:32] <Unit193> Anywho, see the spacer?
[23:32] <fusk> nope
[23:33] <fusk> most left icons is as close to the screen as possible
[23:34] <fusk> tried adding a spacer, which just added a grey vertical line next to the icon, dock still aligned to the left.
[23:34] <Unit193> Well, I've only had something close to that when there was a missing spacer, it was in the wrong place, or it wasn't set to expand.
[23:34] <Unit193> Entire dock?  Well there's that too.
[23:35] <fusk> yeah, entire dock
[23:35] <fusk> no idea why
[23:36] <Unit193> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5j51v86cc8bpzda/panel.png Setting like that?
[23:37] <fusk> been there, but didn't touch anything
[23:38] <fusk> mine has the same settings
[23:38] <fusk> just doublechecked
[23:39] <Unit193> I don't know off hand, but you can backup the config and go back to default if you'd like.
[23:39] <Savage_> hi why i cant talk with my mic
[23:39] <Savage_> i read in google and have prob with pulseaudio?
[23:39] <fusk> sure, default would be fine, no need to backup, installed yesterday.
[23:39] <SkippersBoss> another pulse one
[23:40] <Savage_> how i can repair this?
[23:40] <Unit193> fusk: Remove this dir .config/xfce4/panel/
[23:40] <Unit193> Savage_: Program?  Skype?
[23:40] <Savage_> yeah
[23:41] <SkippersBoss> savage_, first of all i am not an expert but removing pulse has solved my problems
[23:41] <fusk> where is that dir located ?
[23:41] <Unit193> SkippersBoss: I just kill it for the time
[23:41] <Unit193> fusk: ~/
[23:41] <fusk> or is it a hidden folder ?
[23:41] <SkippersBoss> Unit193, pulse and skype do not mix
[23:41] <Unit193> Hidden.
[23:41] <fusk> i see, need to unhide it
[23:41] <Unit193> SkippersBoss: Yep, I pulseaudio -k and set it not to autospawn if I need skype.
[23:41] <SkippersBoss> Sure :
[23:42] <Unit193> fusk: Ctrl+h
[23:42] <SkippersBoss> so Savage_ there is your answer
[23:42] <Savage_> ok thanks
[23:42] <SkippersBoss> :_)
[23:42] <SkippersBoss> Good luck
[23:42] <Unit193> Though, removing it would work as well.
[23:43] <SkippersBoss> tell me about it :-)
[23:43] <fusk> aha, there we go, so just delete entire panel dir ?
[23:43] <Unit193> fusk: Yep, then logout/back in
[23:44] <fusk> will do
[23:45] <fusk> Unit193, didn't work.
[23:46] <Unit193> Eh? Welll......
[23:47] <fusk> all icons are now black except for trash, default dir and show desktop.
[23:47] <fusk> blank'
[23:50] <Unit193> Could try copying /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/panel/ to ~/.xfce4/panel/ -r  ?
[23:52] <fusk> i know we just met, and this is crazy, but i got more faith in you then myself when it comes to linux.
[23:53] <fusk> so if you say so, i'll do it.
[23:54] <Unit193> Heh, that delete trick normally works for me to reset the panels.
[23:55] <fusk> i'm just not quite sure what i'm supposed to do, do i just copy the folder, or is that -r important ?
[23:55] <Unit193> Ah! Here we go! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels
[23:56] <fusk> i see
[23:58] <fusk> could you help me pinpoint where we only fiddle with the dock panel, or do we just reset the whole chebang ? i only added dropbox so far, and it starts auto so i'd guess it'll find it's place again next time it starts.
[23:59] <Unit193> The default dock is just another panel, panel #2
[23:59] <fusk> aha, i see.