| JontheEchidna | pykde takes a while to build | 02:14 |
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| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Did you get a chance to take it for a spin? | 04:18 |
| Riddell | I miss revu | 09:01 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | Hi | 09:25 |
| Riddell | hi Quintasan | 09:28 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I think kimpanel's upstream is Chinese, that will make communication a little bit harder if he doesn't know English, gotta confirm it first | 09:37 |
| Riddell | what makes you think he doesn't speak english? | 09:42 |
| Riddell | kubuntu.org/news/calligra-25-rc | 09:47 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Just guessing, so far my adventures in the Asian developer community ended up in a failure because I didn't know Chinese and the other party knew little English. | 09:50 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: We could also try switching to fcitx if we get enough tests. | 09:51 |
| Quintasan | ETOOMANYINPUTMETHODS | 09:54 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: does it work? | 09:56 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Well it looks like it is working, let me try that on a clean install. | 09:57 |
| * Quintasan does kvm magic | 09:57 | |
| Riddell | Blizzz: does the owncloud-client use gnome-keyring? it's giving me lots of error messages saying so | 09:57 |
| Blizzz | Riddell: dragotin says it does not | 10:01 |
| Riddell | something does, I get lots of this when I run it "WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/jr/.cache/keyring-9Yp480/pkcs11: No such file or directory" | 10:03 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 11:29 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: no, but it is compiled now. I'll give it a try after work today | 11:33 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Great. Thanks. | 12:43 |
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| Riddell | Blizzz: owncloud-client in experimental ppa for the testing https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+packages | 13:00 |
| Riddell | apachelogger____: what is the meaning of the underscores? | 13:00 |
| apachelogger____ | degree of annoyedness | 13:00 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 13:00 |
| afiestas | apachelogger____: remove one of them coz the video I sent u.U | 13:10 |
| apachelogger____ | touch debian/stamp-patched | 13:11 |
| apachelogger____ | that is reason to remove one | 13:11 |
| === apachelogger____ is now known as apachelogger___ | ||
| Riddell | happy birthday Nightrose | 13:29 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: thank you! :) | 13:29 |
| Blizzz | Riddell: yay! | 13:52 |
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| jjesse | yeah happy birthday Nightrose | 14:16 |
| Nightrose | jjesse: thx :) | 14:17 |
| Riddell | jtechidna: was there any conclusion to the gtk kcm question? | 14:52 |
| Riddell | seems like the main point is it overriding default gtk settings which would affect ubuntu unity users | 14:53 |
| jtechidna | hmm, I don't think we reached any consensus on what to do. | 14:55 |
| jtechidna | though I think if the kcm is part of kubuntu-desktop then it's not that big of an issue | 14:55 |
| Riddell | jtechidna: what's not an issue? | 14:56 |
| jtechidna | Riddell: globally setting the gtk settings | 14:56 |
| Riddell | jtechidna: but that would mess up people who also wanted to use unity no? | 14:56 |
| jtechidna | they generally wouldn't install kubuntu-desktop, right? | 14:57 |
| Riddell | some people like to use both | 14:57 |
| Riddell | jtechidna: how do we set it by default for new users who havn't run the gtk config kcm? | 14:58 |
| jtechidna | I don't know | 14:58 |
| jtechidna | how do we do it currently? | 14:59 |
| Riddell | not sure that's what I'm wondering :) | 14:59 |
| BluesKaj | i don't see the point of unity with kde available ..I tried unity for 2 weeks , that was enough, now I understand why ubuntu users are looking at alternatives | 14:59 |
| jtechidna | I know we used to have a shell script as part of startkde, dunno if that's still used | 15:00 |
| Riddell | ah yes it has "# configuration of the gtk2-engines-oxygen if not already set" | 15:00 |
| jtechidna | I thought xsettings-kde may have changed things, though | 15:00 |
| jtechidna | I'm not sure how everything fits together now | 15:01 |
| Riddell | startkde makes ~/.kde/env/gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh | 15:01 |
| Riddell | the good news is this new version of oxygen-gtk3 fixes it! | 15:06 |
| * Riddell updates oxygen-gtk2/3 | 15:06 | |
| Riddell | well I get how GTK2 theme is set, no idea how GTK 3 theme is set | 15:10 |
| jtechidna | archive admins are a bit slow :( bug 1012151 | 15:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1012151 in tagua (Ubuntu) "Request for removal from archive (binary and source, sync blacklist)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1012151 | 15:15 |
| Riddell | voila | 15:19 |
| jtechidna | thanks :) | 15:20 |
| jtechidna | I had forgotten about it, it had been so long, lol | 15:20 |
| jtechidna | !info knights | 15:21 |
| ubottu | knights (source: knights): chess interface for the KDE Platform. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.2-1build1 (precise), package size 2630 kB, installed size 4012 kB | 15:21 |
| jtechidna | ^knights is also affected, but it's upstream is still around. there's some hope that a new version can be released | 15:21 |
| ScottK | jtechidna: We could remove just the binaries for now and then wait and see. | 15:22 |
| tsdgeos | wassup with knights? | 15:37 |
| ScottK | Apparently not ported to the new kdegames lib API. | 15:39 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: ^^^ | 15:39 |
| jtechidna | It still uses KGameRenderer and friends for rendering: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Games/Porting_to_libkdegames_v5#Theming_and_KGameRenderer | 15:43 |
| jtechidna | *still uses old KGameRenderer | 15:44 |
| jtechidna | and the old buildsystem bits | 15:44 |
| ScottK | tsdgeos: ^^^ | 15:44 |
| tsdgeos | ScottK: the buildsystem bits might be a problem | 15:45 |
| tsdgeos | KGameRenderer is fine | 15:45 |
| tsdgeos | actaully i don't know why smajesky changed the LibKDEGames.cmake to KDEGames.cmake | 15:46 |
| tsdgeos | just breaks stuff | 15:46 |
| tsdgeos | without really any need | 15:46 |
| tsdgeos | but now it's too late i guess | 15:46 |
| ScottK | If it's just a name change, maybe a compatibility symlink for 4.9? | 15:46 |
| Riddell | jtechidna: oh it's actually xsettings-kde that sets the gtk2 and 3 theme | 15:48 |
| Riddell | as well as GTK2_RC_FILES | 15:48 |
| tsdgeos | ScottK: haven't digged much | 15:49 |
| tsdgeos | but i don't think there's much more changes | 15:49 |
| * ScottK neither | 15:49 | |
| * tsdgeos will have a look later if he remembers | 15:51 | |
| jtechidna | :D http://bash.org/?16293 | 16:07 |
| apachelogger___ | {standard input}: Fatal error: can't write SplitElementTxn.o: No space left on device | 16:10 |
| apachelogger___ | yehaaa | 16:10 |
| micahg | umm, if I have a kde langpack installed in precise, it wants to install calligra on upgrade to quantal | 19:03 |
| micahg | language-pack-kde-xx Depends calligra-l10n-xx Recommends calligra, the langpacks should enhance calligra, not recommend it | 19:05 |
| micahg | is there an existing bug or should I file one? | 19:05 |
| micahg | is anyone planning a calligra upload soonish? | 19:07 |
| micahg | bug #1027215 | 19:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1027215 in calligra-l10n (Ubuntu Quantal) "calligra-l10n-xx should enhance, not recommend calligra" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027215 | 19:15 |
| micahg | I'm happy to do the fix/upload as long as it's approved | 19:16 |
| micahg | Riddell: yofel_^^ | 19:43 |
| ScottK | There's some magic script that possbly needs fixing too. I think apachelogger___ or yofel_ know about that. | 20:20 |
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| yofel | no, calligra-l10n is independent of kde-l10n and has it's own setup. Fixing that ^ would be a 2 line change in rules. | 20:38 |
| yofel | hm | 20:38 |
| yofel | spoke too soon | 20:38 |
| yofel | if it has to be "Enhances" then you'll need to add that in the control file as well | 20:39 |
| ScottK | micahg: Go for it. | 20:40 |
| micahg | ScottK: ok, will do over the weekend when I have more time to test | 20:44 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 20:44 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: which package is the plugin factory supposed to be in? | 21:11 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: python3-pyqt4. | 21:11 |
| ScottK | I didn't do anything to make it land there though. | 21:11 |
| JontheEchidna | you mean -kde4? | 21:11 |
| ScottK | yes | 21:11 |
| ScottK | pykde4 | 21:11 |
| JontheEchidna | so it should be in the build dir somewhere | 21:11 |
| JontheEchidna | found it | 21:12 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 21:12 |
| ScottK | I know it gets built. | 21:12 |
| JontheEchidna | kcmshell4 crashes, installing debugging symbols now | 21:13 |
| bas_brain | hi guys, will ubuntu still be developed by the community or will be developed by the new company? | 21:18 |
| ScottK | bas_brain: Di you mean Kubuntu? | 21:19 |
| ScottK | Di/Did | 21:19 |
| bas_brain | yeah sorry | 21:20 |
| ScottK | Some people who work on Kubuntu are paid for it and some aren't. That hasn't changed. Who happens to be paying people doesn't much matter. | 21:20 |
| bas_brain | so nothing changed, only the company who also support it. I understood | 21:20 |
| bas_brain | I would like to help the community, any advice? | 21:21 |
| ScottK | Start doing it. | 21:22 |
| ScottK | If there's something you think can be improved, improve it. | 21:22 |
| ScottK | I have to go, but if you mention where you'd like to help, I'm sure someone can suggest something. | 21:23 |
| bas_brain | i would like to help kubuntu team | 21:35 |
| bas_brain | how can i join any group? | 21:38 |
| bas_brain | do i have to register to a admnistrator and then he will decide? | 21:38 |
| JontheEchidna | barry: Hi, I tested out the python3 plugin factory just now. | 21:47 |
| JontheEchidna | this crash occurs during plugin creation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102500/ | 21:47 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: hmm | 21:48 |
| JontheEchidna | Fatal Python error: take_gil: NULL tstate | 21:49 |
| JontheEchidna | here's a bt full for the top part of the stacktrace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102518/ | 21:51 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: yikes. okay, that one should be easy. PyEval_InitThreads must be called *after* Py_Initialize in >= 3.2. /me updates the branch | 21:51 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: update pushed | 21:53 |
| JontheEchidna | barry: ok, that fixed that. It now crashes the kcmshell or systemsettings when the plugin encounters a syntax error (and tries to call apport?) http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102529/ | 22:00 |
| JontheEchidna | I was using the print statement instead of the print function | 22:01 |
| barry | that's interesting | 22:01 |
| JontheEchidna | there's a similar crash with proper syntax, too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102536/ | 22:03 |
| barry | probably the PyGILState_Ensure() needs to move above the PyErr_Print(). /me looks | 22:03 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: this might fix the syntax error case, probably not the other case, but please pull the update and try again | 22:07 |
| JontheEchidna | ok | 22:08 |
| JontheEchidna | barry: I don't think it helps the syntax case | 22:20 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: it still crashes when you have a syntax error? | 22:20 |
| apachelogger___ | yofel: calligra-l10n does the same thing no? | 22:20 |
| JontheEchidna | barry: yep | 22:20 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: can you pastebin the backtrace? | 22:21 |
| JontheEchidna | barry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102561/ | 22:21 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, wait | 22:21 |
| JontheEchidna | the patch didn't apply properly | 22:21 |
| yofel | apachelogger___: not really, they have a small setup script, but that's only to prepare the initial mutiple-tar source. The package relationships are only defined in control and rules | 22:22 |
| JontheEchidna | ugh, I hope I don't have to do a clean rebuild. that'll take an hour or two D: | 22:22 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: ah, no, i see where i screwed up. hang on a sec | 22:23 |
| barry | i wonder why it doesn't apply properly. | 22:23 |
| JontheEchidna | actually it did apply properly | 22:23 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm using the Manual Patch System so that I don't have to re-build the whole thing :P | 22:23 |
| barry | i think the quilt stack is clean tho | 22:24 |
| JontheEchidna | e.g. me manually updating the patched file after looking at the bzr diff | 22:24 |
| barry | ah :) | 22:24 |
| JontheEchidna | then I just rm -rf builddir-3.2/kpython3pluginfactory, then debuild -us -uc -nc | 22:25 |
| JontheEchidna | saving me 2 hours compile time | 22:25 |
| barry | ouch. | 22:25 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: update pushed. please try again | 22:25 |
| JontheEchidna | k | 22:26 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: i'm going to get dinner started. brb. | 22:27 |
| apachelogger___ | yofel: spooky | 22:31 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: let me know how it goes and i'll keep checking back in | 22:33 |
| JontheEchidna | barry: no luck yet, the relevant part of the function looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102582/ | 22:35 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: yeah, that looks right. the problem was that the gil state wasn't acquired when PyErr_Print() was called. but you're saying that with the latest pastebin, the syntax error case still crashes? if so, backtrace please. | 22:37 |
| JontheEchidna | barry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1102591/ | 22:39 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: okay, now i have no idea :/ | 22:40 |
| JontheEchidna | :( | 22:41 |
| JontheEchidna | I can throw my project up in bzr if you'd like to fiddle around with it yourself | 22:41 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: sure. please tell me how to build and test it tho | 22:41 |
| JontheEchidna | ok | 22:41 |
| JontheEchidna | barry: lp:~echidnaman/+junk/kde-config-drivers | 22:43 |
| JontheEchidna | mkdir build; cd build; cmake ../ -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr; make; sudo make install; kbuildsycoca4; kcmshell4 kde-config-drivers | 22:43 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: on quantal right? | 22:44 |
| JontheEchidna | barry: yeah, only quantal has the python3-kde stuff | 22:45 |
| barry | cool | 22:45 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: i guess i'll see you in 2 hours ;) | 23:00 |
| JontheEchidna | well, my computer's a bit crap, but it's still a double-build of the package basically | 23:01 |
| barry | JontheEchidna: something's wrong with the build system. following your commands in a quantal chroot, after doing 'cmake ...', the make command just exits immediately. afaict, CMakeFiles/Makefile2 has an empty all: target | 23:52 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, right | 23:52 |
| JontheEchidna | skip the make step, just do make install | 23:52 |
| JontheEchidna | it's interperted so there's nothing to make :P | 23:52 |
| barry | ah, cool. well, looks like the kcmshell4 needs the x server so the chroot is unhappy ;/ | 23:54 |
| barry | i'm going to have to install a build vm for this since i don't have a quantal machine that can handle it atm. i'll do that now but i probably won't get to the build until monday. please do ping me then. | 23:55 |
| JontheEchidna | ok | 23:55 |
| JontheEchidna | have a good weekend | 23:55 |
| barry | thanks, you too | 23:55 |
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