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merlin1991hm must have been a kernelpanic :D00:00
CanauckTuxI'm also running a 32-bit version of kde00:01
CanauckTuxwould that break anything?00:02
CanauckTux(i should be on 64-bit, I trusted Unetbootin too much)00:02
BarkingFishI don't know to be honest - i've never dealt with 64 bit versions of anything, since my PC is a P4 Xeon (Intel) and I fall as an i686 (x86)00:05
CanauckTuxokay00:07
graftcan someone help me figure out this wireless security/wpa/TLS menu in the network management app?00:10
grafti have no idea where to put my user/password... i'm not sure what all these CA certs and such are00:10
merlin1991graft: that sounds like you ended up in the wpa enterprise part of the gui00:11
graftyeah00:12
graftnever been here before00:12
DaskreechCanauckTux: 32 bit is fine and is normally considered (for some stupid reason) more stable than 64 bit00:12
CanauckTuxprobably explains why unetbootin favoured it00:13
graftmerlin1991: any more help than that? i can't figure this out00:24
merlin1991graft: ah sry I'm back to you in a second when I've booted kbuntu00:27
merlin1991graft: let's start at the beginnig, what kind of wireless network do you want to add?00:28
graftuh... i think it's a wpa enterprise, i'm not sure00:28
merlin1991do you have a passphrase, or a user and a passphrase?00:29
grafta user and a passphrase00:30
merlin1991that's wpa enterprise then00:30
merlin1991any more info on the network?00:30
graftnope... it's a university network00:31
merlin1991eduroam?00:31
grafteduroam?00:31
graftoh like can i roam from one ap to another? i dunno00:31
merlin1991it's a europe / worldwide university network thing where you have your user and password and should get in @ any university00:32
graftah, no, i'm in california00:32
merlin1991http://www.eduroam.org/00:32
merlin1991well since you only have that much information I guess you'll have to try the network types00:33
merlin1991you'll need WPA/PWA2 Enterprise on security00:34
merlin1991and for Authentication Protected EAP, LEAP or Tunneled TLS00:34
grafthmm i found some university settings pages, lemme go through those first00:35
graftthanks for the help00:35
merlin1991if they're public link them here and I can check them aswell :)00:35
graftergh. can't blacklist ipv6 any more?00:42
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gbcHI yall. is there any provision  to recover an existing kubuntu partition in a multiboot sustem  using the installation disk ?03:06
gbcthe method I referring to being similar to a like case wherein you can use a windoze installation disk to recover a scrogged partition.03:07
gbci.e. your MBR has gotten hosed.03:08
GFelixis anyone know, what was instead of usual kickstarter menu in one of previous releases of kubuntu, looked like unity in ubuntu?04:15
macoare you referring to the netbook interface, maybe?04:15
GFelixnoaXess, it was in desktop edition04:16
GFelixoops04:16
macothat's still available. System Settings -> Workspace Behavior -> Workspace -> Type: netbook04:16
macothere isnt a separate netbook and desktop edition04:16
macowhich one is used by default depends on the screen resolution04:17
GFelixwhy, if screen resolution is 1280x80004:18
GFelixit was announced as a new feature of release04:18
macoprobably because 800px isnt very tall?04:18
macohmm wait...04:19
macomy bigger laptops have 800px so nvm04:19
macowhat was announced as new feature?04:19
GFelixnew type of main menu instead of Kickstarter04:19
macojust the kickoff menu?04:20
macoit's still a main menu, but it has bigger icons and a search bar?04:20
GFelixoh, yes, sorry04:20
GFelixyes, like in unity04:20
macoer... kickoff has been around since kde4 came out, i think04:20
macocertainly as long as ive used kde (since 2009)04:20
macoit's a main menu that's more like whats in windows 704:20
macothe netbook interface is the one i'd say is more like unity, as it puts the icons on the desktop instead of in a menu04:21
GFelixthis is kickoff04:21
GFelixbut icons & searchbar are in a pop-up "layer" like in unity (ubuntu)04:22
macoit's a plasma widget, just like the panel04:22
macoany menu pops up as a higher layer :P04:23
macoits funny how much windows 7 looks like kde4. newspapers have gotten it wrong..putting pictures of kde4 while talking about windows 704:23
GFelixbut much more safer )))04:27
c2tarunwhy skype is not in kubuntu's repo but it is in ubuntu's repo?04:27
GFelixit's in multiverse, as i know04:28
rapidspc2tarun: turn on partners repos04:28
c2tarunrapidsp: ohh.. thanks :)04:28
GFelixabout skype: i can't install 4th version. it prints "Done." and closes...04:29
c2tarunGFelix: you tried to install 4th version from repo or from there site?04:55
GFelixc2tarun, from their's site - unfortunately, there's no updates for skype05:13
c2tarunGFelix: I installed 2.2 and its working.05:20
GFelixc2tarun, yeah, 2.2 is cool, but i want 4 ))05:23
c2tarunhmm.... any new features in 4?05:23
GFelixinterface )05:24
nafgWhat's the best way to find/replace in a lot of files?07:04
jussinafg: grep and sed :)07:50
jussinafg: or find and sed - ie. http://rushi.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/find-replace-across-multiple-files-in-linux/07:52
nafgjussi: thanks, I'm okay07:52
jussinafg: :)07:52
bob___hi09:10
bob___can someone help me with multilanguage support in Kubuntu 12 ?09:11
susundberg!ask09:14
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:14
bob___I'm trying to configure a dual keyboard layout (French and Korean). I had a somewhat ok result with iBus but Plasma froze a lot. I tried with SCIM, I can switch fine to Korean but I can't go back to French and the panel to choose the layout isn't showing up. Any ideas ?09:17
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susundbergbob___: sorry, none, but lets hope somebody else has good idea. Googling is always an good option, but i guess you have tried that already ..09:31
bob___i did, a lot09:31
bob___most of the information are outdated though09:31
paul___libreoffice seems to miss some files that openoffice had09:51
paul___like the musik marisol09:51
paul___where would I find that?09:51
quesadadid kde die for anyone else after the last update?10:18
quesadasince the last ubuntu update to kde 4.8.2, I cannot get to my desktop10:19
quesadakdm gets dark, then comes back to the login screen10:19
quesadasyslog dmsg, Xorg log etc checked10:20
quesadalooks like kdeint4 may be the culprit10:20
Havoc][hello10:20
Havoc][is there any way to remove the Kubuntu Splash Screen for "try kubuntu" and "install Kubuntu"? Because i use it as a usb live linux and i will ALWAYS "try" Kubuntu :-).10:22
jds_how do I change Konsole prompt to just $?10:24
jds_no user@home:dir10:24
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mofuxhi, i'm experiancing a problem where the computer hangs at startup with "Checking Battery State...". From this point on i can only press CTRL+ALT+F1 and start kdm. Does anyone have a clue how to solve this?10:59
patricIs there any German help channel here on the network?11:26
ikoniapatric: #ubuntu-de ?11:26
BluesKajHey all11:29
patricikonia: thank you!11:30
dcorbinYesterday I upgraded my kubuntu using apt-get upgrade.  When I rebooted, grub (I think) reports that it cannot find the root disk (UUID=??).  I can boot from a rescue CD and mount the drive without problems.    I assume a small change to my grub config should make things work, but I don't know grub very well.  Suggestions please.11:45
dcorbin(I can chroot my normal root drive without problem, so it's really about grub i think)11:45
BluesKajdcorbin, you may have to reinstall grub to the hdd11:50
BluesKaj!grub11:50
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)11:50
dcorbinBluesKaj: I think I did to no avail.  I'll read those links.11:51
BluesKajdcorbin, I know there's a better tutorial , hang on I'll try to find it11:52
dcorbinA simple resin tall of grub to the hard drive did not make it any better11:55
dcorbin*reinstall11:57
BluesKajhttp://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/fix-restore-grub-boot-loader.html11:59
dcorbinI've done that.  It's not that grub doesn't load.  For some reason, it can't see my root drive.  But it's not a hardware problem.12:04
dcorbinHow can I tell grub to use /dev/sda1 explicitly?12:07
BluesKajdcorbin, on the live cd , sudo fdisk -l or just fdisk -l , check your hard disk(s) and partitions12:10
BluesKajto see if the / shows up12:11
dcorbinBluesKaj: I have successfully mounted it, chrooted it, and edit files on the filesystem.  Is that not enough?12:13
BluesKajdcorbin,  chrooting isn't necessary , can you cd to in the terminal to the /dev/sdx (x being assigned letter) on the hdd , then run sudo update-grub12:15
dcorbinBluesKaj: yes, I did.  and then grub-install  it got noe better.12:16
BluesKajnow , sudo update-grub12:16
dcorbinThe chroot was booting off a different recovery CD.12:16
BluesKajiupdating grub places the partitons/kernels in the grub menu , you should see it reconfigure itself12:17
dcorbinRight, and grub boots fine, but it does not boot my linux kernel.12:18
BluesKajthe kernel isn't listed or it just doesn't boot ?12:19
dcorbinIf I press Shift, I see it listed. I choose it, but I end up at an initramfs prompt very quickly.12:20
dcorbin"Gave up waiting for root device."12:25
dcorbinALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/d8c2c49a-??? does not exist12:25
dcorbinDropping to shell12:25
BluesKajdcorbin, do you have a / and a /home partition ?12:26
dcorbindo you mean, while I'm at the (initramfs) prompt, or in general?12:27
BluesKajon the hdd12:27
dcorbinYes, I have / If I remember correctly, /home is a second physical drive.  We're not getting anywhere close to where /home matters.12:28
dcorbinI look at the missing drive on the ramps, and it points at /dev/sda1 (which it should)12:29
dcorbinI look at that an it has the right major/minor numbers12:29
dcorbinIf I boot off the rescue CD or the live cd I can mount /dev/sda1 no problem.  But GRUB doesn't see it, and I cannot mount it.12:30
dcorbin(well, I say grub doesn't see it.  Maybe it's the actual linux kernel, but I don't think it's gotten that far in the boot process).12:31
BluesKajdcorbin, I really don't know any other fix other than the "boot repair" procedures12:32
BluesKajor a reinstall to /12:32
dcorbinThanks for trying.  I guess I'll as on the #grub12:32
BluesKaj!boot repair12:33
BluesKaj!info boot repair12:33
ubottu'repair' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, stable, testing, unstable12:33
BluesKaj!info boot-repair12:33
ubottuPackage boot-repair does not exist in precise12:33
BluesKajheh , oh well ...there are many boot repair tutorials on the net12:36
dcorbinFurther research suggestions I should try adding root delay to my kernel entries.   However, all the pages about it where ti add it are 4 years old and reference file /boot/grub/menu.lst which I do not have.  I assume they're outdated.  Where would I such a parameter today?12:48
aladdini#ubuntu12:50
BluesKajdcorbin, yes , it's a shame ..there's very little on this particular problem and it's mostly ubuntu which requires an install of a gui "boot-repair" , I suppose it works , never tried it . I just reinstall the OS to / .takes less then 20 mins12:54
dcorbinBluesKaj: won't a reinstall mess with /etc files and have different packages installed?12:55
dcorbin(root delay did not fix the problem -- it didn't even seem to wait 90 seconds)12:55
dcorbinAlso, my video setup seems to be very fragile and I worry that a reinstall will mean another day getting it right.12:56
BluesKajdcorbin, yes some of your /etc files like network interface and others , but your data won't be affected12:57
BluesKajdcorbin, fragile .. how do you mean ?12:58
dcorbinI really should put /etc under source-control.12:58
dcorbinI have a two monitor system with Xinerama and the ATI proprietary driver.  It was a lot of manual work to get it work right, and sometimes breaks with kernel upgrades.12:59
dcorbin(I could be in that boat already, but I can't get that far)12:59
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markus_when will the gimp with one window mode be on kubuntu?13:01
OerHeksmarkus_, with 12.1013:02
markus_OerHeks: Nice. Good to know13:02
BluesKajdcorbin, what about no APCI in grub ?13:08
* BluesKaj is grasping at straws here13:09
MySystemhello13:09
MySystemdid anybody know what overwrites my resolution at every restart13:09
MySystemtried setting resolution over amd propritär driver, xorg.conf (monitor modeline and prefferedmode) and kubuntu 12.04 system settings13:09
dcorbinBluesKaj: I don't what APCI is, so I don't  know.13:09
MySystemhi blueskaj lots of thx i have my resolution13:09
BluesKajMySystem, you're welcome , glad to hear it :)13:11
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MySystembut i can't tell you how this morning i was blindfishing in my settings and so and there was it13:12
MySystemafter a bit looking in changes in xorg.conf i saw a new modeline added from amd i think13:13
MySystembut it would be nice if it keeps this res after reboot13:14
BluesKaj!ACPI13:14
svt_raidenhi guys...  can anyone help me with apt-get ? I need to clean the broken dependencies in cache13:15
BluesKaj!info ACPI13:15
ubottuPackage ACPI does not exist in precise13:15
svt_raidencan anyone help13:15
svt_raidenI can't even find a resource where to read about how to do it13:15
BluesKajsvt_raiden, have you run suso apt-get -f install and sudo dpkg --configure -a13:16
BluesKajerr sudo13:16
svt_raideni have run sudo apt-get -f install13:16
svt_raidenand gives me error...13:16
svt_raidenand can't install anything else because python-aptdaemon is broken13:17
svt_raidenI am running 64 bit version of Kubuntu13:17
MySystemblueskaj if you want to look http://paste.ubuntu.com/1101784/ my xorg.conf the monitor sections are generated from amd i think13:18
svt_raidenI would like to copy-paste some kode for you to see, BluesKaj...13:19
BluesKajsvt_raiden, run sudo dpkg --configure -a13:19
svt_raidencan I write you on Private MSG?13:19
BluesKajsvt_raiden, let's keep it in the channel so others can help13:20
MySystemit would be nice to talk rdy here iam interessted in learning13:20
svt_raidenok13:21
BluesKajsvt_raiden, run sudo dpkg --configure -a13:21
svt_raidenErrors were encountered while processing:13:21
svt_raiden python-aptdaemon13:21
svt_raiden apport-kde13:21
svt_raiden python-problem-report13:21
svt_raiden devscripts13:21
svt_raiden python-gtk213:22
FloodBotK1svt_raiden: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:22
svt_raidenthis is what happend, when run dpkg --configure -a13:22
svt_raiden(sorry for flooding)13:22
svt_raidencan I speak again? :)13:24
MySystemi think so13:24
BluesKajhmm, no patience ...oh the generation raised with instant gratification is beginning to get on my nerves13:28
svt_raidensorry, I was out13:32
svt_raidenwhat did I miss?13:32
BluesKajsvt_raiden, run sudo dpkg --configure -a13:32
BluesKajoops13:32
svt_raideni did13:32
svt_raiden:)13:32
svt_raidennothing happend13:33
svt_raiden:)13:33
FloodBotK1svt_raiden: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:33
BluesKajsvt_raiden,  run sudo dpkg --clear-avail13:33
svt_raidenstill don't help - same error, same packages13:35
svt_raidencan I manually delete what it is in apt-get cache, so I can reinstall these packages one by one?13:35
svt_raidenI am afraid - one of them brakes the proccess and the others won't install13:35
svt_raideni think python-aptdaemon is the problem13:36
BluesKajsvt_raiden, you may need to go into /var/log/syslog and find the offending libs that are blocking the install  , and run this command : sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends nameofpackage(s)13:37
svt_raidenThanks BluesKaj13:37
svt_raidenI will do this not13:37
svt_raidenI will do this now13:37
svt_raidennow*13:37
BluesKajsvt_raiden, it may take some time depending on the number of packages needing removal13:38
svt_raideni see13:38
svt_raidenno worries! thank you BluesKaj13:39
svt_raiden:)13:39
BluesKajsvt_raiden, good luck13:39
MySystemit works *smile* kubuntu systemsettings->monitor->set res and then save as default an reboot works13:50
MySystemblueskaj your are the best tried this many times over years and this was with my games the only reason why i went back to windows i could kiss you13:51
BluesKajMySystem, uhm , I merely made a suggestion , your thanks is plenty :)13:55
MySystemyes but this suggestion brought me on the right way13:59
alreakubuntu goo14:26
alreaddddddddddddddd14:26
decciHi Guys14:27
decciI need help adding group and users to LDAP server14:27
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ubuntuhello14:46
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Guest21639are you guys online ?14:48
ikoniaquite a few are14:49
Guest21639hello ikonia14:50
Guest21639does kubuntu still updated ?14:50
JoitGuest21639:  why shouldnt it update?14:51
Guest21639my version  i am connecting now is 13 years old14:51
Joitlol. well mine is 3 months old, what version do you run?14:52
Joitcurrent is 12.0414:52
Guest21639is there a command to know the version ?14:53
Guest21639my web browser is konqueror14:53
Joitugh yes14:53
Joitbut a systemupdate only works from 04 t o vers x1014:53
MySystemfor me i had to setup the update agent to show new lts releases14:54
MySystemyes when you are on 10 you will become 11 and 12 first need to update there (not realy sure but on my laptop it was so )14:55
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JoitGuest21639:  cat /etc/lsb-release14:57
Guest21639my versio is14:58
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Guest21639gutsy 7.10 from 200714:59
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Joitneat something antique14:59
JoitGuest21639:  i updated my system actually simple15:05
Joiti did get a cd, keeped my homefolder, and only installed 12.04. used the same username and anything worked after that15:06
Joitwell i formated my systemfolder15:06
MySystembe carefull if home is encrypted note key bevor killing system15:07
Joit12.04 has still 4 years support15:07
Joityes, no warranty that it works all time, but i did not have a lot installed15:08
dougl5 years15:08
Joitand i assume, he did not use his kubuntu a lot15:08
Joiti thought until 201615:09
douglI could be wrong - but still alot longer than the 2 years we are used to :)15:10
BluesKajheh, that's like w95 or 3.115:12
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emis it possible to download an .iso while using the kubuntu live cd, and then take the kubuntu live cd out of the laptop to burn the iso to a different cd?16:40
Riddellem: nope that'll confuse things16:47
Riddellusing a usb drive would be a nice way around16:47
BluesKajem ,downloading to a usb stick could work16:51
wea0(Aside from installing 12.04) What is the recommended way for getting an up to date kernel on a 11.10 system? (Packages from kernel.ubuntu.com can no longer be installed because they require a version of libc6 more recent than what 11.10 has.)16:52
Riddellwea0: I don't think there is one16:53
emRiddell: okay cool.16:59
emBluesKaj: okay thanks.16:59
MySystemback again i installed 2 IDE HDD's and want to check part and format it as ever with gparted , the prob is it ask for root acess and then seams to crash i see it in taskbar and then it disappears any ideas ?17:36
MySystemkubuntu 12.0417:37
taime1is there a way to bind cube rotation to a mouse gesture in kde?17:46
MySystemfor me was default bind on mousewheel on empty desktop17:47
douglI have looked for that too and never found option for it17:48
dcorbinWhat's the best way to setup a dual-head kubuntu system?17:48
taime1mouse wheel doesnt activate cube tho. it switches desktops and it only works if yuo hover your mouse over empty desktop, which i never have17:48
dougldcorbin, nvidia card?17:48
dcorbindougl: I'm reasonably sure yes.17:49
taime1why would kde not allow mouse buttons to be included in desktop effect keybindings?17:49
MySystemelse under system settings -< behavior of desktop (or so in english) there i found shortcut options17:49
taime1MySystem: that dialog doesnt allow me to set muose buttons as keybindings17:50
dougldcorbin, standard install then additional drivers install (jockey) then nvidia-settings and config there and restart x17:50
MySystemoh i see only keyboard17:50
taime1so weird right?17:50
taime1kde is useless if i cant customize it17:50
dcorbindougl: jockey?17:50
dougldcorbin, lspci will show you what pci stuff you have in your machine17:50
dougldcorbin, run jockey to install nvidia drivers...17:51
MySystemsry taime1 no other ideas atm but iam noob hope someone else here can help17:53
taime1i want so badly to use kde.. im kinda surprised that its not as configurable as other window managers17:54
dcorbindougl: jockey-kde offers me "post-release updates" and "version current".   The latter is currently active17:54
dougldcorbin, then you are half way there...17:54
dcorbinI should stick with the "version current" one?17:54
douglyes17:55
MySystemfor info my gparted runs my kde menu is strange it has removed an " " space "gparted-pkexec" no wonder that nothing happens17:55
douglthe current should work dcorbin - find a command prompt (terminal or konsole) and "sudo nvidia-settings" if I remember correctly... lemme know17:56
* dougl had 62" TV as second head on ubuntu desktop for years... not currently plugged in so am trying to recall.17:58
douglran mythtv on TV upstairs and desktop environment on 22" monitor downstairs on my desk17:59
dougldcorbin, so are you good to go now or do you still need some info?18:00
dcorbindougl: still working on it.  got distracted, though I understand the directions (I think)18:01
bas_brainexit18:02
dougldcorbin, ok... once you find nvidia-settings you should be good to go - I will pm you my phone number so you can call me and just let it ring a couple of times and I will come back to computer if need be.18:03
dcorbinnah.  I have the basics working.  I'll work it out18:04
dcorbinBut thanks.  Very generous18:04
douglok - np.18:05
MySystemgood evening and success18:06
douglif the monitors/tvs are new nvidia-settings should detect them and yeah config is real easy these days compared to the config steps over the years18:06
BluesKajdcorbin, open the kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers , activate the recommended driver in the list . it will install the driver and configure xconfig as well , then you'l get a reboot notification18:07
douglk - later guys and gals... time for some time in the sun and fresh air.18:08
bas_brainhi guys i am new to kubuntu but i use ubuntu for 6 years, so i am good with linux. I want to join kubuntu team to help. Any advices?18:10
graft_is there a kubuntu team any more?18:12
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BluesKajgraft_, do you mean devel or support18:12
graftdevel18:12
BluesKajyes kubuntu devel has been taken over by bluesystems , http://blue-systems.com/18:14
bas_brainto develop, but first i have to get to know kubuntu. Packages, scripts, conf, etc. So first i think to help in small projects, like docs, translation, etc18:14
bas_brainwhat will happen to kubuntu though? will they have their own team? will be comunity based?18:15
BluesKajbas_brain, then join #kubuntu-devel chat and ask about helping there18:15
BluesKajbas_brain, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-to-be-sponsored-by-blue-systems18:17
dcorbin I have a couple of custom plasmodia.  I thought I used to use/j #plasma18:29
dcorbiner, I thought I used to use plasmoidviewer to test them.  that seems to be gone.  What's the right way?18:29
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dcorbinMy newly installed kubuntu is showing very large application icons when I press ALT-TAB).  Where can I set that to be more reasonable?19:03
graftokay, so i unclicked the 'enable wireless' button in my network management app, and now i can't re-click it (it is grayed out) even after restarting19:30
BluesKajgraft, in the terminal, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up19:34
BluesKajpastebin any output19:34
graftSIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill19:35
BluesKajgraft, is the wireless enabled on your router/gateway?19:36
graftthere's a bunch of ap's around, yeah19:36
graftaha, i can unblock with rfkill, whatever that is19:38
BluesKajrfkill unblock wifi19:38
graftyeah... that worked19:39
graftnow i just have my original problem with WPA/PEAP not working19:39
BluesKajok run, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up, again19:39
BluesKajsudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid19:40
graftyeah, that lists a bunch of aps19:41
grafti can connect to some of them fine, it's just this one that uses wpa enterprise19:42
BluesKajyou probly need to configure the router WPA or WPA2 or WPA-PSK  , which ever encryption your router has available , that's separate from network manager , you probly need to find the router's IP for that , route -n19:45
dcorbinWhen I ALT-TAB, kubutu is "showing" each window as tab through the apps.  How can I disable this?19:45
grafti can't configure the router, it's my university wireless network19:46
BluesKajgraft, then you must have a local gat\eway19:47
BluesKajdcorbin, I think that's a "feature" in desktop effects19:51
graftyeah, dcorbin you can configure all of that stuff19:52
graftor pick a different switcher entirely, if you want19:53
BluesKajgraft, do you require a password form your network admin ?19:53
graftyeah, i think it might be some network manager issue, i'm going to see if i can do it with wpa supplicant directly19:54
dcorbinSadly, there doesn't seem to be choice for "normal" sized icons.  There's small (less than finger nail) and the other size, many of which are the size of my palm, but some are a 2 -3 times the size of small.19:54
BluesKajthen afaik , network manager should be disabled19:56
BluesKajdcorbin, are you in system settings>application appearance>icons>advanced ?19:57
dcorbinBluesKaj: no.  I'll give that a try19:58
dcorbinWhich "use" would be the switcher?19:59
mellhenhey guys i need help to configure my kde-desktop20:08
BluesKajmellhen, did you originally install ubuntu and added kde later ?20:09
mellheni installed kubuntu 12.04 lts20:10
BluesKajok , what are you looking to do ?20:10
mellhenBluesKaj: i want to change the behaviour of alt+tab. I changed from cover-flow to "show windows" (its translated from german)20:11
mellhenBluesKaj: my problem is that this tab-switching mode ignores my settings in "show windows". it does not use the "natural mode" but the grid mode.20:13
mellhenthis "show windows" feature works fine, when i use my mousepointer with edges.20:13
mellhenBluesKaj: i could make some screenshots to show the problem20:14
BluesKajmellhen, where do you configure these settings , I'm not much on shortcut keys etc20:16
mellhenBluesKaj: wait i moment a change my system language.20:17
mellhenBluesKaj: To configure the alt tab behavior go to systemsettings > window Behaviour > There you can change the effect from coverflow to "present windows" (i translated it ti "show windows" in the first time)20:20
mellhenBluesKaj: Coverflow seems to Cover switch20:21
mellhenBluesKaj: coverflow seems to be cover switch.20:21
BluesKajyes i have cover switch , but no cover flow20:22
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mellhenBluesKaj: cover flow is the german "translation" its called cover switch  english.20:23
rorkmellhen: same issue here tbh20:23
mellhenBluesKaj: i changed it to present windows.20:23
BluesKajI have no present windows20:25
mellhenBluesKaj: but "present windows" in combination with alt+tab does not respect my settings made in settings>desktop effects>all effects>present windows.20:25
mellhenBluesKaj: i take a screenshot20:25
mellhenBluesKaj:  http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/awt8-v-c16a.png20:29
mellhenBluesKaj: its mixed german & english because i tried to change the language to english while not restarting kde20:30
grafthow do i disable ipv6 now that i cant just blacklist the module?20:31
BluesKajperhaps a kdm restart might help20:31
BluesKajmellhen, ^20:31
mellhenrork: do you thin this is bug.20:31
mellhenBluesKaj: to change the language or to change the bahaviour of the task switching effect?20:32
mellhenBluesKaj: i dissabled and re-enabled desktop effects.20:32
BluesKajgraft,  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html20:33
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BluesKajmellhen, I just use the pagers to separate different apps and pages ...being a home user I have no need for more than 6 or so apps and files open at one time20:37
mellhenBluesKaj: but you can reproduce the behaviour i noticed when using tab switch wiht "present windows" effect?20:38
BluesKajall on one dsektop , right ?20:40
mellhenBluesKaj: iam using two desktops. but maybe i misunderstand your question (?).20:43
BluesKajyes , mellhen , if I load up one desktop with several apps and files etc , then  I get the switchibg effect to which you refer20:44
rorkmellhen: yeah, would be a bug20:46
mellhenBluesKaj: ok. now you have the "present windows" effect. have you noticed, that this effect is not using the settings for "present windows" (natural-mode) but grid-mode?20:46
rorkmellhen: however, go to System Settings > Desktop Effects > All Effects > Present Windows > Settings and set the appropriate shortcut to Alt+Tab and it shows Natural just fine20:47
mellhenrork: try it.20:47
rorkmellhen: a yes, not the same effect >.< can't switch windows20:48
mellhenrork: hehe i changed it already20:49
BluesKajhow does one get a prtscn od the effects like the cube anim etc ?20:50
mellhenrork: restored it.20:50
mellhenBluesKaj: sry what is prtscn?20:51
rorkBluesKaj: use kscreenshot, set the wait for a few secs, switch to the cube at the appropriate time20:51
urlwolfanyone else's comp exploded after last kde upgrade?20:51
BluesKajok , rork , Il'' try that20:51
urlwolfI cannot get a desktop, kdm works, but loging in fails. Some kdeinit4 error in kdm.log20:52
mellhenrork: where can i get help with this bug? which channel. I would like to show it people using kde 4.9beta. maybe this bug is already solved in 4.9 so i do not have to make a new bug report.20:53
rorkI think #kde20:54
mellhenrork: no one answers. actually no one writes anything.20:56
rorklet's say you were pretty lucky to get an answer here within 2 minutes, give it some time20:57
BluesKajno kscreenshot in the repos , rork20:57
rorkBluesKaj: sorry I mean ksnapshot20:58
BluesKajok , took me  awhile , but i got this , http://imagebin.org/22158321:17
MySystemhello have a very nooby question have a 80gb IDE HDD ext3 formated and mounted through partionmanager but now i cant write anything on this hdd22:12
MySystemanything=nothing22:13
Joitwhat error do you get?22:14
MySystemno error the field create file or folder is grey22:15
MySystembut under preferences of this folder i see owner and group root22:15
Joitprobatly  you need root rights22:15
Joitah22:15
Joitwell you can either change that or start in a konsole dolphin as root22:16
MySystembut i want to use it as default user22:16
Joitdid you format it as user?22:17
MySystemchange means the folder which contain the mount with sudo chown user:user /media/data122:17
MySystemno kpartition editor enters aus root22:17
MySystemaus=as22:17
Joitah. probatly thats why you now have it as root22:17
Joitchange, well at the window you can pick the / and apply to subfolders22:18
Joitbut commandline works too22:18
Avihayor you can change it's write permissions to enable users to write to it22:18
MySystemi had to make the mount folder as root because /media isnt owned by me22:18
MySystemok i think i understand both ways and which is the preffered22:19
MySystemor recommend22:19
MySystemthanks way two works root is owner but everbody has rw acces22:21
Joitwhen you want to use it like kinda a user in media, then you should chown it22:21
MySystembut isnt this a security leak22:21
MySystemuse for backup and some games22:21
Joitnot really, its the same structur as you have with your user22:21
MySystembut my user has password and everbody dont know how is all everbody22:22
MySystemhow=who22:22
Avihayif you own it as a user, then only the user can access it, on one hand it's more secure since another user/service that is sand-boxed by being in another user can't access it, on the other hand, services you want to be able to use it can't access it22:22
Joiti would set the rights to rw only to the user what should have access22:23
AvihayI set up a mythTV where all my media were on an NTFS partition, and I got crazy as I could see the media but myth wouldn't list it, I started pulling hairs! until I noticed that it was mounted under my user, and myth running in it's own user couldn't touch it...22:24
MySystemoh ok thats a good discription that i understand22:25
MySystemthen i first chown this folder and if i need service on it that run as other user i have to remember22:26
AvihayI guess the correct way is to use group access to only the services/users that you want to access and disable access to the rest. though even with KDE's GUI tools, I guess that's a hassle22:26
Joitchown it to user:user22:27
MySystemavihay thats a very nice idea but here is no user and group set only defaults but i will remember this if i make users and group server for my lan22:28
Joitand apply it to folder and subfolder22:28
MySystemback sry i think there are more problems i hope the ide cabel was the defect22:43
MySystemif i missed something text sry and post pls again else thx for the discription and help22:43
MySystemgood night23:22
faglnarHey, what is the most idiotproof OS in the world?23:37
Joitms-dos 1.023:41
Joiti thnik the main feature there is, that you can use the enter key, but not much more23:42
faglnarlol23:43
Joit  for what do you need to know it especially?23:43
faglnarI search for something for someone that is so dumb, he shouldnt even use any tech.23:43
faglnarHe is facebook addicted, wants it to be magically doing what he wants and doesnt have a basic logic of how to find features and use them23:44
Joitbut then its not only the os itself, when he has allready problems with facebook23:45
Joitisnt there a iphone out, what has all this features?23:45
Joitor something similar23:45
Joitthen you can avoide it, to let him bother with an os23:45
Joitelse, nothing from the os is easy, you should at last know, what you should NOT do23:46
Joitor probatly only restrict his user for facebooks sessions23:47
Joithttp://itunes.apple.com/us/app/facebook/id284882215?mt=823:49
Joithere it is .. ! http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/18/the-facebook-iphone/23:50

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