[00:00] <merlin1991> hm must have been a kernelpanic :D
[00:01] <CanauckTux> I'm also running a 32-bit version of kde
[00:02] <CanauckTux> would that break anything?
[00:02] <CanauckTux> (i should be on 64-bit, I trusted Unetbootin too much)
[00:05] <BarkingFish> I don't know to be honest - i've never dealt with 64 bit versions of anything, since my PC is a P4 Xeon (Intel) and I fall as an i686 (x86)
[00:07] <CanauckTux> okay
[00:10] <graft> can someone help me figure out this wireless security/wpa/TLS menu in the network management app?
[00:10] <graft> i have no idea where to put my user/password... i'm not sure what all these CA certs and such are
[00:11] <merlin1991> graft: that sounds like you ended up in the wpa enterprise part of the gui
[00:12] <graft> yeah
[00:12] <graft> never been here before
[00:12] <Daskreech> CanauckTux: 32 bit is fine and is normally considered (for some stupid reason) more stable than 64 bit
[00:13] <CanauckTux> probably explains why unetbootin favoured it
[00:24] <graft> merlin1991: any more help than that? i can't figure this out
[00:27] <merlin1991> graft: ah sry I'm back to you in a second when I've booted kbuntu
[00:28] <merlin1991> graft: let's start at the beginnig, what kind of wireless network do you want to add?
[00:28] <graft> uh... i think it's a wpa enterprise, i'm not sure
[00:29] <merlin1991> do you have a passphrase, or a user and a passphrase?
[00:30] <graft> a user and a passphrase
[00:30] <merlin1991> that's wpa enterprise then
[00:30] <merlin1991> any more info on the network?
[00:31] <graft> nope... it's a university network
[00:31] <merlin1991> eduroam?
[00:31] <graft> eduroam?
[00:31] <graft> oh like can i roam from one ap to another? i dunno
[00:32] <merlin1991> it's a europe / worldwide university network thing where you have your user and password and should get in @ any university
[00:32] <graft> ah, no, i'm in california
[00:32] <merlin1991> http://www.eduroam.org/
[00:33] <merlin1991> well since you only have that much information I guess you'll have to try the network types
[00:34] <merlin1991> you'll need WPA/PWA2 Enterprise on security
[00:34] <merlin1991> and for Authentication Protected EAP, LEAP or Tunneled TLS
[00:35] <graft> hmm i found some university settings pages, lemme go through those first
[00:35] <graft> thanks for the help
[00:35] <merlin1991> if they're public link them here and I can check them aswell :)
[00:42] <graft> ergh. can't blacklist ipv6 any more?
[03:06] <gbc> HI yall. is there any provision  to recover an existing kubuntu partition in a multiboot sustem  using the installation disk ?
[03:07] <gbc> the method I referring to being similar to a like case wherein you can use a windoze installation disk to recover a scrogged partition.
[03:08] <gbc> i.e. your MBR has gotten hosed.
[04:15] <GFelix> is anyone know, what was instead of usual kickstarter menu in one of previous releases of kubuntu, looked like unity in ubuntu?
[04:15] <maco> are you referring to the netbook interface, maybe?
[04:16] <GFelix> noaXess, it was in desktop edition
[04:16] <GFelix> oops
[04:16] <maco> that's still available. System Settings -> Workspace Behavior -> Workspace -> Type: netbook
[04:16] <maco> there isnt a separate netbook and desktop edition
[04:17] <maco> which one is used by default depends on the screen resolution
[04:18] <GFelix> why, if screen resolution is 1280x800
[04:18] <GFelix> it was announced as a new feature of release
[04:18] <maco> probably because 800px isnt very tall?
[04:19] <maco> hmm wait...
[04:19] <maco> my bigger laptops have 800px so nvm
[04:19] <maco> what was announced as new feature?
[04:19] <GFelix> new type of main menu instead of Kickstarter
[04:20] <maco> just the kickoff menu?
[04:20] <maco> it's still a main menu, but it has bigger icons and a search bar?
[04:20] <GFelix> oh, yes, sorry
[04:20] <GFelix> yes, like in unity
[04:20] <maco> er... kickoff has been around since kde4 came out, i think
[04:20] <maco> certainly as long as ive used kde (since 2009)
[04:20] <maco> it's a main menu that's more like whats in windows 7
[04:21] <maco> the netbook interface is the one i'd say is more like unity, as it puts the icons on the desktop instead of in a menu
[04:21] <GFelix> this is kickoff
[04:22] <GFelix> but icons & searchbar are in a pop-up "layer" like in unity (ubuntu)
[04:22] <maco> it's a plasma widget, just like the panel
[04:23] <maco> any menu pops up as a higher layer :P
[04:23] <maco> its funny how much windows 7 looks like kde4. newspapers have gotten it wrong..putting pictures of kde4 while talking about windows 7
[04:27] <GFelix> but much more safer )))
[04:27] <c2tarun> why skype is not in kubuntu's repo but it is in ubuntu's repo?
[04:28] <GFelix> it's in multiverse, as i know
[04:28] <rapidsp> c2tarun: turn on partners repos
[04:28] <c2tarun> rapidsp: ohh.. thanks :)
[04:29] <GFelix> about skype: i can't install 4th version. it prints "Done." and closes...
[04:55] <c2tarun> GFelix: you tried to install 4th version from repo or from there site?
[05:13] <GFelix> c2tarun, from their's site - unfortunately, there's no updates for skype
[05:20] <c2tarun> GFelix: I installed 2.2 and its working.
[05:23] <GFelix> c2tarun, yeah, 2.2 is cool, but i want 4 ))
[05:23] <c2tarun> hmm.... any new features in 4?
[05:24] <GFelix> interface )
[07:04] <nafg> What's the best way to find/replace in a lot of files?
[07:50] <jussi> nafg: grep and sed :)
[07:52] <jussi> nafg: or find and sed - ie. http://rushi.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/find-replace-across-multiple-files-in-linux/
[07:52] <nafg> jussi: thanks, I'm okay
[07:52] <jussi> nafg: :)
[09:10] <bob___> hi
[09:11] <bob___> can someone help me with multilanguage support in Kubuntu 12 ?
[09:14] <susundberg> !ask
[09:17] <bob___> I'm trying to configure a dual keyboard layout (French and Korean). I had a somewhat ok result with iBus but Plasma froze a lot. I tried with SCIM, I can switch fine to Korean but I can't go back to French and the panel to choose the layout isn't showing up. Any ideas ?
[09:31] <susundberg> bob___: sorry, none, but lets hope somebody else has good idea. Googling is always an good option, but i guess you have tried that already ..
[09:31] <bob___> i did, a lot
[09:31] <bob___> most of the information are outdated though
[09:51] <paul___> libreoffice seems to miss some files that openoffice had
[09:51] <paul___> like the musik marisol
[09:51] <paul___> where would I find that?
[10:18] <quesada> did kde die for anyone else after the last update?
[10:19] <quesada> since the last ubuntu update to kde 4.8.2, I cannot get to my desktop
[10:19] <quesada> kdm gets dark, then comes back to the login screen
[10:20] <quesada> syslog dmsg, Xorg log etc checked
[10:20] <quesada> looks like kdeint4 may be the culprit
[10:20] <Havoc][> hello
[10:22] <Havoc][> is there any way to remove the Kubuntu Splash Screen for "try kubuntu" and "install Kubuntu"? Because i use it as a usb live linux and i will ALWAYS "try" Kubuntu :-).
[10:24] <jds_> how do I change Konsole prompt to just $?
[10:24] <jds_> no user@home:dir
[10:59] <mofux> hi, i'm experiancing a problem where the computer hangs at startup with "Checking Battery State...". From this point on i can only press CTRL+ALT+F1 and start kdm. Does anyone have a clue how to solve this?
[11:26] <patric> Is there any German help channel here on the network?
[11:26] <ikonia> patric: #ubuntu-de ?
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:30] <patric> ikonia: thank you!
[11:45] <dcorbin> Yesterday I upgraded my kubuntu using apt-get upgrade.  When I rebooted, grub (I think) reports that it cannot find the root disk (UUID=??).  I can boot from a rescue CD and mount the drive without problems.    I assume a small change to my grub config should make things work, but I don't know grub very well.  Suggestions please.
[11:45] <dcorbin> (I can chroot my normal root drive without problem, so it's really about grub i think)
[11:50] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, you may have to reinstall grub to the hdd
[11:50] <BluesKaj> !grub
[11:51] <dcorbin> BluesKaj: I think I did to no avail.  I'll read those links.
[11:52] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, I know there's a better tutorial , hang on I'll try to find it
[11:55] <dcorbin> A simple resin tall of grub to the hard drive did not make it any better
[11:57] <dcorbin> *reinstall
[11:59] <BluesKaj> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/fix-restore-grub-boot-loader.html
[12:04] <dcorbin> I've done that.  It's not that grub doesn't load.  For some reason, it can't see my root drive.  But it's not a hardware problem.
[12:07] <dcorbin> How can I tell grub to use /dev/sda1 explicitly?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, on the live cd , sudo fdisk -l or just fdisk -l , check your hard disk(s) and partitions
[12:11] <BluesKaj> to see if the / shows up
[12:13] <dcorbin> BluesKaj: I have successfully mounted it, chrooted it, and edit files on the filesystem.  Is that not enough?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> dcorbin,  chrooting isn't necessary , can you cd to in the terminal to the /dev/sdx (x being assigned letter) on the hdd , then run sudo update-grub
[12:16] <dcorbin> BluesKaj: yes, I did.  and then grub-install  it got noe better.
[12:16] <BluesKaj> now , sudo update-grub
[12:16] <dcorbin> The chroot was booting off a different recovery CD.
[12:17] <BluesKaj> iupdating grub places the partitons/kernels in the grub menu , you should see it reconfigure itself
[12:18] <dcorbin> Right, and grub boots fine, but it does not boot my linux kernel.
[12:19] <BluesKaj> the kernel isn't listed or it just doesn't boot ?
[12:20] <dcorbin> If I press Shift, I see it listed. I choose it, but I end up at an initramfs prompt very quickly.
[12:25] <dcorbin> "Gave up waiting for root device."
[12:25] <dcorbin> ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/d8c2c49a-??? does not exist
[12:25] <dcorbin> Dropping to shell
[12:26] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, do you have a / and a /home partition ?
[12:27] <dcorbin> do you mean, while I'm at the (initramfs) prompt, or in general?
[12:27] <BluesKaj> on the hdd
[12:28] <dcorbin> Yes, I have / If I remember correctly, /home is a second physical drive.  We're not getting anywhere close to where /home matters.
[12:29] <dcorbin> I look at the missing drive on the ramps, and it points at /dev/sda1 (which it should)
[12:29] <dcorbin> I look at that an it has the right major/minor numbers
[12:30] <dcorbin> If I boot off the rescue CD or the live cd I can mount /dev/sda1 no problem.  But GRUB doesn't see it, and I cannot mount it.
[12:31] <dcorbin> (well, I say grub doesn't see it.  Maybe it's the actual linux kernel, but I don't think it's gotten that far in the boot process).
[12:32] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, I really don't know any other fix other than the "boot repair" procedures
[12:32] <BluesKaj> or a reinstall to /
[12:32] <dcorbin> Thanks for trying.  I guess I'll as on the #grub
[12:33] <BluesKaj> !boot repair
[12:33] <BluesKaj> !info boot repair
[12:33] <BluesKaj> !info boot-repair
[12:36] <BluesKaj> heh , oh well ...there are many boot repair tutorials on the net
[12:48] <dcorbin> Further research suggestions I should try adding root delay to my kernel entries.   However, all the pages about it where ti add it are 4 years old and reference file /boot/grub/menu.lst which I do not have.  I assume they're outdated.  Where would I such a parameter today?
[12:50] <aladdini> #ubuntu
[12:54] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, yes , it's a shame ..there's very little on this particular problem and it's mostly ubuntu which requires an install of a gui "boot-repair" , I suppose it works , never tried it . I just reinstall the OS to / .takes less then 20 mins
[12:55] <dcorbin> BluesKaj: won't a reinstall mess with /etc files and have different packages installed?
[12:55] <dcorbin> (root delay did not fix the problem -- it didn't even seem to wait 90 seconds)
[12:56] <dcorbin> Also, my video setup seems to be very fragile and I worry that a reinstall will mean another day getting it right.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, yes some of your /etc files like network interface and others , but your data won't be affected
[12:58] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, fragile .. how do you mean ?
[12:58] <dcorbin> I really should put /etc under source-control.
[12:59] <dcorbin> I have a two monitor system with Xinerama and the ATI proprietary driver.  It was a lot of manual work to get it work right, and sometimes breaks with kernel upgrades.
[12:59] <dcorbin> (I could be in that boat already, but I can't get that far)
[13:01] <markus_> when will the gimp with one window mode be on kubuntu?
[13:02] <OerHeks> markus_, with 12.10
[13:02] <markus_> OerHeks: Nice. Good to know
[13:08] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, what about no APCI in grub ?
[13:09]  * BluesKaj is grasping at straws here
[13:09] <MySystem> hello
[13:09] <MySystem> did anybody know what overwrites my resolution at every restart
[13:09] <MySystem> tried setting resolution over amd propritär driver, xorg.conf (monitor modeline and prefferedmode) and kubuntu 12.04 system settings
[13:09] <dcorbin> BluesKaj: I don't what APCI is, so I don't  know.
[13:09] <MySystem> hi blueskaj lots of thx i have my resolution
[13:11] <BluesKaj> MySystem, you're welcome , glad to hear it :)
[13:12] <MySystem> but i can't tell you how this morning i was blindfishing in my settings and so and there was it
[13:13] <MySystem> after a bit looking in changes in xorg.conf i saw a new modeline added from amd i think
[13:14] <MySystem> but it would be nice if it keeps this res after reboot
[13:14] <BluesKaj> !ACPI
[13:15] <svt_raiden> hi guys...  can anyone help me with apt-get ? I need to clean the broken dependencies in cache
[13:15] <BluesKaj> !info ACPI
[13:15] <svt_raiden> can anyone help
[13:15] <svt_raiden> I can't even find a resource where to read about how to do it
[13:16] <BluesKaj> svt_raiden, have you run suso apt-get -f install and sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:16] <BluesKaj> err sudo
[13:16] <svt_raiden> i have run sudo apt-get -f install
[13:16] <svt_raiden> and gives me error...
[13:17] <svt_raiden> and can't install anything else because python-aptdaemon is broken
[13:17] <svt_raiden> I am running 64 bit version of Kubuntu
[13:18] <MySystem> blueskaj if you want to look http://paste.ubuntu.com/1101784/ my xorg.conf the monitor sections are generated from amd i think
[13:19] <svt_raiden> I would like to copy-paste some kode for you to see, BluesKaj...
[13:19] <BluesKaj> svt_raiden, run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:19] <svt_raiden> can I write you on Private MSG?
[13:20] <BluesKaj> svt_raiden, let's keep it in the channel so others can help
[13:20] <MySystem> it would be nice to talk rdy here iam interessted in learning
[13:21] <svt_raiden> ok
[13:21] <BluesKaj> svt_raiden, run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:21] <svt_raiden> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:21] <svt_raiden>  python-aptdaemon
[13:21] <svt_raiden>  apport-kde
[13:21] <svt_raiden>  python-problem-report
[13:21] <svt_raiden>  devscripts
[13:22] <svt_raiden>  python-gtk2
[13:22] <FloodBotK1> svt_raiden: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <svt_raiden> this is what happend, when run dpkg --configure -a
[13:22] <svt_raiden> (sorry for flooding)
[13:24] <svt_raiden> can I speak again? :)
[13:24] <MySystem> i think so
[13:28] <BluesKaj> hmm, no patience ...oh the generation raised with instant gratification is beginning to get on my nerves
[13:32] <svt_raiden> sorry, I was out
[13:32] <svt_raiden> what did I miss?
[13:32] <BluesKaj> svt_raiden, run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:32] <BluesKaj> oops
[13:32] <svt_raiden> i did
[13:32] <svt_raiden> :)
[13:33] <svt_raiden> nothing happend
[13:33] <svt_raiden> :)
[13:33] <FloodBotK1> svt_raiden: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <BluesKaj> svt_raiden,  run sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[13:35] <svt_raiden> still don't help - same error, same packages
[13:35] <svt_raiden> can I manually delete what it is in apt-get cache, so I can reinstall these packages one by one?
[13:35] <svt_raiden> I am afraid - one of them brakes the proccess and the others won't install
[13:36] <svt_raiden> i think python-aptdaemon is the problem
[13:37] <BluesKaj> svt_raiden, you may need to go into /var/log/syslog and find the offending libs that are blocking the install  , and run this command : sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends nameofpackage(s)
[13:37] <svt_raiden> Thanks BluesKaj
[13:37] <svt_raiden> I will do this not
[13:37] <svt_raiden> I will do this now
[13:37] <svt_raiden> now*
[13:38] <BluesKaj> svt_raiden, it may take some time depending on the number of packages needing removal
[13:38] <svt_raiden> i see
[13:39] <svt_raiden> no worries! thank you BluesKaj
[13:39] <svt_raiden> :)
[13:39] <BluesKaj> svt_raiden, good luck
[13:50] <MySystem> it works *smile* kubuntu systemsettings->monitor->set res and then save as default an reboot works
[13:51] <MySystem> blueskaj your are the best tried this many times over years and this was with my games the only reason why i went back to windows i could kiss you
[13:55] <BluesKaj> MySystem, uhm , I merely made a suggestion , your thanks is plenty :)
[13:59] <MySystem> yes but this suggestion brought me on the right way
[14:26] <alrea> kubuntu goo
[14:26] <alrea> ddddddddddddddd
[14:27] <decci> Hi Guys
[14:27] <decci> I need help adding group and users to LDAP server
[14:46] <ubuntu> hello
[14:48] <Guest21639> are you guys online ?
[14:49] <ikonia> quite a few are
[14:50] <Guest21639> hello ikonia
[14:50] <Guest21639> does kubuntu still updated ?
[14:51] <Joit> Guest21639:  why shouldnt it update?
[14:51] <Guest21639> my version  i am connecting now is 13 years old
[14:52] <Joit> lol. well mine is 3 months old, what version do you run?
[14:52] <Joit> current is 12.04
[14:53] <Guest21639> is there a command to know the version ?
[14:53] <Guest21639> my web browser is konqueror
[14:53] <Joit> ugh yes
[14:53] <Joit> but a systemupdate only works from 04 t o vers x10
[14:54] <MySystem> for me i had to setup the update agent to show new lts releases
[14:55] <MySystem> yes when you are on 10 you will become 11 and 12 first need to update there (not realy sure but on my laptop it was so )
[14:57] <Joit> Guest21639:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[14:58] <Guest21639> my versio is
[14:59] <Guest21639> gutsy 7.10 from 2007
[14:59] <Joit> neat something antique
[15:05] <Joit> Guest21639:  i updated my system actually simple
[15:06] <Joit> i did get a cd, keeped my homefolder, and only installed 12.04. used the same username and anything worked after that
[15:06] <Joit> well i formated my systemfolder
[15:07] <MySystem> be carefull if home is encrypted note key bevor killing system
[15:07] <Joit> 12.04 has still 4 years support
[15:08] <Joit> yes, no warranty that it works all time, but i did not have a lot installed
[15:08] <dougl> 5 years
[15:08] <Joit> and i assume, he did not use his kubuntu a lot
[15:09] <Joit> i thought until 2016
[15:10] <dougl> I could be wrong - but still alot longer than the 2 years we are used to :)
[15:12] <BluesKaj> heh, that's like w95 or 3.1
[16:40] <em> is it possible to download an .iso while using the kubuntu live cd, and then take the kubuntu live cd out of the laptop to burn the iso to a different cd?
[16:47] <Riddell> em: nope that'll confuse things
[16:47] <Riddell> using a usb drive would be a nice way around
[16:51] <BluesKaj> em ,downloading to a usb stick could work
[16:52] <wea0> (Aside from installing 12.04) What is the recommended way for getting an up to date kernel on a 11.10 system? (Packages from kernel.ubuntu.com can no longer be installed because they require a version of libc6 more recent than what 11.10 has.)
[16:53] <Riddell> wea0: I don't think there is one
[16:59] <em> Riddell: okay cool.
[16:59] <em> BluesKaj: okay thanks.
[17:36] <MySystem> back again i installed 2 IDE HDD's and want to check part and format it as ever with gparted , the prob is it ask for root acess and then seams to crash i see it in taskbar and then it disappears any ideas ?
[17:37] <MySystem> kubuntu 12.04
[17:46] <taime1> is there a way to bind cube rotation to a mouse gesture in kde?
[17:47] <MySystem> for me was default bind on mousewheel on empty desktop
[17:48] <dougl> I have looked for that too and never found option for it
[17:48] <dcorbin> What's the best way to setup a dual-head kubuntu system?
[17:48] <taime1> mouse wheel doesnt activate cube tho. it switches desktops and it only works if yuo hover your mouse over empty desktop, which i never have
[17:48] <dougl> dcorbin, nvidia card?
[17:49] <dcorbin> dougl: I'm reasonably sure yes.
[17:49] <taime1> why would kde not allow mouse buttons to be included in desktop effect keybindings?
[17:49] <MySystem> else under system settings -< behavior of desktop (or so in english) there i found shortcut options
[17:50] <taime1> MySystem: that dialog doesnt allow me to set muose buttons as keybindings
[17:50] <dougl> dcorbin, standard install then additional drivers install (jockey) then nvidia-settings and config there and restart x
[17:50] <MySystem> oh i see only keyboard
[17:50] <taime1> so weird right?
[17:50] <taime1> kde is useless if i cant customize it
[17:50] <dcorbin> dougl: jockey?
[17:50] <dougl> dcorbin, lspci will show you what pci stuff you have in your machine
[17:51] <dougl> dcorbin, run jockey to install nvidia drivers...
[17:53] <MySystem> sry taime1 no other ideas atm but iam noob hope someone else here can help
[17:54] <taime1> i want so badly to use kde.. im kinda surprised that its not as configurable as other window managers
[17:54] <dcorbin> dougl: jockey-kde offers me "post-release updates" and "version current".   The latter is currently active
[17:54] <dougl> dcorbin, then you are half way there...
[17:54] <dcorbin> I should stick with the "version current" one?
[17:55] <dougl> yes
[17:55] <MySystem> for info my gparted runs my kde menu is strange it has removed an " " space "gparted-pkexec" no wonder that nothing happens
[17:56] <dougl> the current should work dcorbin - find a command prompt (terminal or konsole) and "sudo nvidia-settings" if I remember correctly... lemme know
[17:58]  * dougl had 62" TV as second head on ubuntu desktop for years... not currently plugged in so am trying to recall.
[17:59] <dougl> ran mythtv on TV upstairs and desktop environment on 22" monitor downstairs on my desk
[18:00] <dougl> dcorbin, so are you good to go now or do you still need some info?
[18:01] <dcorbin> dougl: still working on it.  got distracted, though I understand the directions (I think)
[18:02] <bas_brain> exit
[18:03] <dougl> dcorbin, ok... once you find nvidia-settings you should be good to go - I will pm you my phone number so you can call me and just let it ring a couple of times and I will come back to computer if need be.
[18:04] <dcorbin> nah.  I have the basics working.  I'll work it out
[18:04] <dcorbin> But thanks.  Very generous
[18:05] <dougl> ok - np.
[18:06] <MySystem> good evening and success
[18:06] <dougl> if the monitors/tvs are new nvidia-settings should detect them and yeah config is real easy these days compared to the config steps over the years
[18:07] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, open the kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers , activate the recommended driver in the list . it will install the driver and configure xconfig as well , then you'l get a reboot notification
[18:08] <dougl> k - later guys and gals... time for some time in the sun and fresh air.
[18:10] <bas_brain> hi guys i am new to kubuntu but i use ubuntu for 6 years, so i am good with linux. I want to join kubuntu team to help. Any advices?
[18:12] <graft_> is there a kubuntu team any more?
[18:12] <BluesKaj> graft_, do you mean devel or support
[18:12] <graft> devel
[18:14] <BluesKaj> yes kubuntu devel has been taken over by bluesystems , http://blue-systems.com/
[18:14] <bas_brain> to develop, but first i have to get to know kubuntu. Packages, scripts, conf, etc. So first i think to help in small projects, like docs, translation, etc
[18:15] <bas_brain> what will happen to kubuntu though? will they have their own team? will be comunity based?
[18:15] <BluesKaj> bas_brain, then join #kubuntu-devel chat and ask about helping there
[18:17] <BluesKaj> bas_brain, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-to-be-sponsored-by-blue-systems
[18:29] <dcorbin>  I have a couple of custom plasmodia.  I thought I used to use/j #plasma
[18:29] <dcorbin> er, I thought I used to use plasmoidviewer to test them.  that seems to be gone.  What's the right way?
[19:03] <dcorbin> My newly installed kubuntu is showing very large application icons when I press ALT-TAB).  Where can I set that to be more reasonable?
[19:30] <graft> okay, so i unclicked the 'enable wireless' button in my network management app, and now i can't re-click it (it is grayed out) even after restarting
[19:34] <BluesKaj> graft, in the terminal, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:34] <BluesKaj> pastebin any output
[19:35] <graft> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[19:36] <BluesKaj> graft, is the wireless enabled on your router/gateway?
[19:36] <graft> there's a bunch of ap's around, yeah
[19:38] <graft> aha, i can unblock with rfkill, whatever that is
[19:38] <BluesKaj> rfkill unblock wifi
[19:39] <graft> yeah... that worked
[19:39] <graft> now i just have my original problem with WPA/PEAP not working
[19:39] <BluesKaj> ok run, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up, again
[19:40] <BluesKaj> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[19:41] <graft> yeah, that lists a bunch of aps
[19:42] <graft> i can connect to some of them fine, it's just this one that uses wpa enterprise
[19:45] <BluesKaj> you probly need to configure the router WPA or WPA2 or WPA-PSK  , which ever encryption your router has available , that's separate from network manager , you probly need to find the router's IP for that , route -n
[19:45] <dcorbin> When I ALT-TAB, kubutu is "showing" each window as tab through the apps.  How can I disable this?
[19:46] <graft> i can't configure the router, it's my university wireless network
[19:47] <BluesKaj> graft, then you must have a local gat\eway
[19:51] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, I think that's a "feature" in desktop effects
[19:52] <graft> yeah, dcorbin you can configure all of that stuff
[19:53] <graft> or pick a different switcher entirely, if you want
[19:53] <BluesKaj> graft, do you require a password form your network admin ?
[19:54] <graft> yeah, i think it might be some network manager issue, i'm going to see if i can do it with wpa supplicant directly
[19:54] <dcorbin> Sadly, there doesn't seem to be choice for "normal" sized icons.  There's small (less than finger nail) and the other size, many of which are the size of my palm, but some are a 2 -3 times the size of small.
[19:56] <BluesKaj> then afaik , network manager should be disabled
[19:57] <BluesKaj> dcorbin, are you in system settings>application appearance>icons>advanced ?
[19:58] <dcorbin> BluesKaj: no.  I'll give that a try
[19:59] <dcorbin> Which "use" would be the switcher?
[20:08] <mellhen> hey guys i need help to configure my kde-desktop
[20:09] <BluesKaj> mellhen, did you originally install ubuntu and added kde later ?
[20:10] <mellhen> i installed kubuntu 12.04 lts
[20:10] <BluesKaj> ok , what are you looking to do ?
[20:11] <mellhen> BluesKaj: i want to change the behaviour of alt+tab. I changed from cover-flow to "show windows" (its translated from german)
[20:13] <mellhen> BluesKaj: my problem is that this tab-switching mode ignores my settings in "show windows". it does not use the "natural mode" but the grid mode.
[20:13] <mellhen> this "show windows" feature works fine, when i use my mousepointer with edges.
[20:14] <mellhen> BluesKaj: i could make some screenshots to show the problem
[20:16] <BluesKaj> mellhen, where do you configure these settings , I'm not much on shortcut keys etc
[20:17] <mellhen> BluesKaj: wait i moment a change my system language.
[20:20] <mellhen> BluesKaj: To configure the alt tab behavior go to systemsettings > window Behaviour > There you can change the effect from coverflow to "present windows" (i translated it ti "show windows" in the first time)
[20:21] <mellhen> BluesKaj: Coverflow seems to Cover switch
[20:21] <mellhen> BluesKaj: coverflow seems to be cover switch.
[20:22] <BluesKaj> yes i have cover switch , but no cover flow
[20:23] <mellhen> BluesKaj: cover flow is the german "translation" its called cover switch  english.
[20:23] <rork> mellhen: same issue here tbh
[20:23] <mellhen> BluesKaj: i changed it to present windows.
[20:25] <BluesKaj> I have no present windows
[20:25] <mellhen> BluesKaj: but "present windows" in combination with alt+tab does not respect my settings made in settings>desktop effects>all effects>present windows.
[20:25] <mellhen> BluesKaj: i take a screenshot
[20:29] <mellhen> BluesKaj:  http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/awt8-v-c16a.png
[20:30] <mellhen> BluesKaj: its mixed german & english because i tried to change the language to english while not restarting kde
[20:31] <graft> how do i disable ipv6 now that i cant just blacklist the module?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> perhaps a kdm restart might help
[20:31] <BluesKaj> mellhen, ^
[20:31] <mellhen> rork: do you thin this is bug.
[20:32] <mellhen> BluesKaj: to change the language or to change the bahaviour of the task switching effect?
[20:32] <mellhen> BluesKaj: i dissabled and re-enabled desktop effects.
[20:33] <BluesKaj> graft,  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html
[20:37] <BluesKaj> mellhen, I just use the pagers to separate different apps and pages ...being a home user I have no need for more than 6 or so apps and files open at one time
[20:38] <mellhen> BluesKaj: but you can reproduce the behaviour i noticed when using tab switch wiht "present windows" effect?
[20:40] <BluesKaj> all on one dsektop , right ?
[20:43] <mellhen> BluesKaj: iam using two desktops. but maybe i misunderstand your question (?).
[20:44] <BluesKaj> yes , mellhen , if I load up one desktop with several apps and files etc , then  I get the switchibg effect to which you refer
[20:46] <rork> mellhen: yeah, would be a bug
[20:46] <mellhen> BluesKaj: ok. now you have the "present windows" effect. have you noticed, that this effect is not using the settings for "present windows" (natural-mode) but grid-mode?
[20:47] <rork> mellhen: however, go to System Settings > Desktop Effects > All Effects > Present Windows > Settings and set the appropriate shortcut to Alt+Tab and it shows Natural just fine
[20:47] <mellhen> rork: try it.
[20:48] <rork> mellhen: a yes, not the same effect >.< can't switch windows
[20:49] <mellhen> rork: hehe i changed it already
[20:50] <BluesKaj> how does one get a prtscn od the effects like the cube anim etc ?
[20:50] <mellhen> rork: restored it.
[20:51] <mellhen> BluesKaj: sry what is prtscn?
[20:51] <rork> BluesKaj: use kscreenshot, set the wait for a few secs, switch to the cube at the appropriate time
[20:51] <urlwolf> anyone else's comp exploded after last kde upgrade?
[20:51] <BluesKaj> ok , rork , Il'' try that
[20:52] <urlwolf> I cannot get a desktop, kdm works, but loging in fails. Some kdeinit4 error in kdm.log
[20:53] <mellhen> rork: where can i get help with this bug? which channel. I would like to show it people using kde 4.9beta. maybe this bug is already solved in 4.9 so i do not have to make a new bug report.
[20:54] <rork> I think #kde
[20:56] <mellhen> rork: no one answers. actually no one writes anything.
[20:57] <rork> let's say you were pretty lucky to get an answer here within 2 minutes, give it some time
[20:57] <BluesKaj> no kscreenshot in the repos , rork
[20:58] <rork> BluesKaj: sorry I mean ksnapshot
[21:17] <BluesKaj> ok , took me  awhile , but i got this , http://imagebin.org/221583
[22:12] <MySystem> hello have a very nooby question have a 80gb IDE HDD ext3 formated and mounted through partionmanager but now i cant write anything on this hdd
[22:13] <MySystem> anything=nothing
[22:14] <Joit> what error do you get?
[22:15] <MySystem> no error the field create file or folder is grey
[22:15] <MySystem> but under preferences of this folder i see owner and group root
[22:15] <Joit> probatly  you need root rights
[22:15] <Joit> ah
[22:16] <Joit> well you can either change that or start in a konsole dolphin as root
[22:16] <MySystem> but i want to use it as default user
[22:17] <Joit> did you format it as user?
[22:17] <MySystem> change means the folder which contain the mount with sudo chown user:user /media/data1
[22:17] <MySystem> no kpartition editor enters aus root
[22:17] <MySystem> aus=as
[22:17] <Joit> ah. probatly thats why you now have it as root
[22:18] <Joit> change, well at the window you can pick the / and apply to subfolders
[22:18] <Joit> but commandline works too
[22:18] <Avihay> or you can change it's write permissions to enable users to write to it
[22:18] <MySystem> i had to make the mount folder as root because /media isnt owned by me
[22:19] <MySystem> ok i think i understand both ways and which is the preffered
[22:19] <MySystem> or recommend
[22:21] <MySystem> thanks way two works root is owner but everbody has rw acces
[22:21] <Joit> when you want to use it like kinda a user in media, then you should chown it
[22:21] <MySystem> but isnt this a security leak
[22:21] <MySystem> use for backup and some games
[22:21] <Joit> not really, its the same structur as you have with your user
[22:22] <MySystem> but my user has password and everbody dont know how is all everbody
[22:22] <MySystem> how=who
[22:22] <Avihay> if you own it as a user, then only the user can access it, on one hand it's more secure since another user/service that is sand-boxed by being in another user can't access it, on the other hand, services you want to be able to use it can't access it
[22:23] <Joit> i would set the rights to rw only to the user what should have access
[22:24] <Avihay> I set up a mythTV where all my media were on an NTFS partition, and I got crazy as I could see the media but myth wouldn't list it, I started pulling hairs! until I noticed that it was mounted under my user, and myth running in it's own user couldn't touch it...
[22:25] <MySystem> oh ok thats a good discription that i understand
[22:26] <MySystem> then i first chown this folder and if i need service on it that run as other user i have to remember
[22:26] <Avihay> I guess the correct way is to use group access to only the services/users that you want to access and disable access to the rest. though even with KDE's GUI tools, I guess that's a hassle
[22:27] <Joit> chown it to user:user
[22:28] <MySystem> avihay thats a very nice idea but here is no user and group set only defaults but i will remember this if i make users and group server for my lan
[22:28] <Joit> and apply it to folder and subfolder
[22:43] <MySystem> back sry i think there are more problems i hope the ide cabel was the defect
[22:43] <MySystem> if i missed something text sry and post pls again else thx for the discription and help
[23:22] <MySystem> good night
[23:37] <faglnar> Hey, what is the most idiotproof OS in the world?
[23:41] <Joit> ms-dos 1.0
[23:42] <Joit> i thnik the main feature there is, that you can use the enter key, but not much more
[23:43] <faglnar> lol
[23:43] <Joit>   for what do you need to know it especially?
[23:43] <faglnar> I search for something for someone that is so dumb, he shouldnt even use any tech.
[23:44] <faglnar> He is facebook addicted, wants it to be magically doing what he wants and doesnt have a basic logic of how to find features and use them
[23:45] <Joit> but then its not only the os itself, when he has allready problems with facebook
[23:45] <Joit> isnt there a iphone out, what has all this features?
[23:45] <Joit> or something similar
[23:45] <Joit> then you can avoide it, to let him bother with an os
[23:46] <Joit> else, nothing from the os is easy, you should at last know, what you should NOT do
[23:47] <Joit> or probatly only restrict his user for facebooks sessions
[23:49] <Joit> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/facebook/id284882215?mt=8
[23:50] <Joit> here it is .. ! http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/18/the-facebook-iphone/