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| LoT | so, i was looking through "NEW" ubuntu bugs, and we have a significant number... some that are just *ancient* | 13:15 |
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| LoT | hggdh: happen to be alive? | 13:17 |
| LoT | who in their right mind nominated this for "Ubuntu" directly four days ago, if its already "Fix Released" | 13:22 |
| LoT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/738453 | 13:22 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 738453 in avant-window-navigator "[natty] taskmanager applet crashes on right click" [Medium,Fix released] | 13:22 |
| LoT | its an old bug too | 13:26 |
| * LoT goes to poke the LP people | 13:26 | |
| penguin42 | LoT: You do get some random sets of changes in bugs and I can never figure it out, I've seen a few bugs which have just had loads of random changes, the best explanation is it's just new users not understanding, but I don't know | 13:28 |
| LoT | penguin42: i've undone their fails, but i'm starting to think we need some type of a restriction for bugs | 13:28 |
| LoT | PERSONALLY... | 13:29 |
| LoT | i believe that people should be required to sign the CoC in order to *edit* bugs "affects" | 13:29 |
| LoT | that way there's the requirements of a PGP key and a digital signature before they randomly modify bugs | 13:29 |
| LoT | my main concern is that this user is *literally* brand new. | 13:29 |
| LoT | Member since:2012-07-07 | 13:30 |
| penguin42 | LoT: Yeh I've seen it on a few, it'svery odd | 13:30 |
| LoT | this user only modified that one bug, too... | 13:30 |
| LoT | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xerotonin#show_id=true&show_information_type=false&show_tag=false&show_reporter=false&show_targetname=true&show_assignee=false&show_date_last_updated=false&show_datecreated=false&show_importance=true&show_heat=true&show_milestone_name=false&show_status=true&batch_key=%5B%22-importance%22%2Cnull%2Ctrue%2C0%5D | 13:30 |
| LoT | BLEH EVIL LINK! | 13:30 |
| LoT | anyways | 13:30 |
| LoT | i did state in my comment that if they think it was *not* fixed, then rather than reassigning the bug to "Ubuntu", they should comment "This error showed up again" or "This bug showed up again in $version" | 13:31 |
| * LoT at least has the patience today to not rant at these people beyond that of typical LoT opinion0stating | 13:31 | |
| penguin42 | LoT: I've sene it before, and I've wondered if it's on purpose, but I don't get it | 13:32 |
| LoT | penguin42: might be a bot | 13:33 |
| LoT | but i'm thinking its something i bring up on the bugsquad mailing list | 13:33 |
| LoT | this happens pretty oftenish | 13:33 |
| penguin42 | LoT: Yeh I did a while ago | 13:33 |
| LoT | and i dont like it | 13:33 |
| LoT | penguin42: i didnt see that, must've been before i joined | 13:33 |
| LoT | got the archive? | 13:33 |
| penguin42 | LoT: Let me see, it was in April, I was commenting on the changes to bug 804662 | 13:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 804662 in jockey "jockey-gtk crashed with TypeError in _execute_child(): execv() arg 2 must contain only strings" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804662 | 13:34 |
| penguin42 | LoT: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bugcontrol/msg03696.html | 13:34 |
| LoT | penguin42: yeah i joined at the very very end of april :P | 13:34 |
| LoT | penguin42: ah, i wasnt subscribed to bugcontrol then (wasnt a member) | 13:35 |
| LoT | explains why i didnt see it xD | 13:35 |
| LoT | but yeah, i think its both an issue of PEBKAC and spam | 13:36 |
| LoT | that' Enki" name is familiar, but i cant place it... | 13:36 |
| penguin42 | hey 4 letters being familiar.... | 13:36 |
| LoT | where do i know that from... | 13:37 |
| LoT | i know it from somewhere important... was it from when i opered another network...? | 13:37 |
| * LoT digs around in 5-year-old files | 13:38 | |
| LoT | penguin42: its mildly annoying when stuff that shows "Fix Confirmed" actually shows up in the "New" list, and its old and stale :/ | 13:54 |
| LoT | i mean, there's this old bug in the 300ks and its still applicable for "oneiric", but apparently nobody fixed it | 13:55 |
| LoT | (originally reported in 9.04) | 13:55 |
| penguin42 | LoT: Yeh there are lots of old bugs; if it annoys you, fix it :-) | 13:56 |
| LoT | penguin42: if they're still applicable, i'm not touching them :P | 13:57 |
| LoT | but old "Fix Released" stuff... :p | 13:57 |
| LoT | that shouldnt be messed with and if it IS messed with, well... | 13:58 |
| LoT | *booM* | 13:58 |
| LoT | i'll be on it :P | 13:58 |
| LoT | (if/when i see it) | 13:58 |
| LoT | okay, now i'm more annoyed with the general userbase... :/ | 13:58 |
| penguin42 | LoT: hehe yeh, the most common reason fix released stuff gets fiddled with is that people find the same bug coming up again | 13:58 |
| LoT | because apparently people think that every failed config file they set up is a bug | 13:58 |
| penguin42 | LoT: Now now, can't get annoyed with them! | 13:58 |
| * LoT grabs the invalidation keys for the teams he's on | 13:59 | |
| LoT | these "invalid" bugs are not bugs! | 13:59 |
| LoT | (they're on projects, which i manage, so... not bugcontrol or ubuntu) | 13:59 |
| LoT | penguin42: when you see twelve bugs that arent bugs on an upstream project, all within a minute of each other... | 13:59 |
| LoT | and they're random failed config files that the users wrote... | 14:00 |
| * LoT shrugs | 14:00 | |
| LoT | i've never seen that much spam hit my inbox at once though | 14:00 |
| LoT | (and when i have, its only ever been when the Russians bombarded my email server, and the spam filters couldnt keep up | 14:00 |
| LoT | _ | 14:01 |
| LoT | BLEH, keyboard's on the fritz again | 14:01 |
| penguin42 | LoT: OK, so why are the users making so many config screwups and reporting them as bugs - are the error messages it creates not helpful enough? | 14:01 |
| LoT | penguin42: you mean like "$configargument is not valid within a $container section of the configuration"? | 14:01 |
| LoT | where $configargument is some random item | 14:01 |
| LoT | and $container is a block of config that relates to a specific part of the program | 14:02 |
| LoT | because that's the errors they're getting.. but the error even says it cant be used | 14:02 |
| LoT | and it also says refer to documentation | 14:02 |
| penguin42 | ah, not much you can do about that then :-) | 14:02 |
| LoT | nope | 14:02 |
| LoT | except mark the bugs as notbugs and then convert to questions, then say "Please refer to the documentation, as the error states." | 14:03 |
| LoT | and then they email me and are like "But I followed the docs..." | 14:03 |
| LoT | "Did you read the section that says "Valid only in"? | 14:03 |
| LoT | "Ohh.... no...?" | 14:03 |
| LoT | *facepalm* "Go read it" | 14:04 |
| LoT | (typical post-convert-to-question email chain) | 14:04 |
| hggdh | LoT: I am here now :-) | 14:05 |
| LoT | hggdh: heh, was going to ask you for the link to the source for your bot's "Announce" function, but then i dug up something that works better | 14:06 |
| hggdh | heh | 14:06 |
| LoT | hggdh: was in this channel instead of the -announce channel (irssi is evil that way) | 14:06 |
| * penguin42 goes to get a new audio lead - just being able to hear the left channel is annoying | 14:09 | |
| LoT | oh god, this playlist came up again :/ | 14:09 |
| LoT | i dont like this playlist much, its great for when i'm playing first person shooters... | 14:11 |
| LoT | but that's because this playlist makes me a tad more evil (perfect for FPS games) | 14:11 |
| penguin42 | ah stereo | 16:34 |
| LoT | penguin42: enjoy it while it lasts | 16:39 |
| LoT | :P | 16:39 |
| penguin42 | LoT: With these leads probably not too long :-( | 16:43 |
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| PaddyLandau | Hello. I have reported bugs before using ubuntu-bug. However, how do I report a bug when it is about the installation itself? | 18:46 |
| penguin42 | PaddyLandau: Report it against the package ubiquity | 18:48 |
| penguin42 | PaddyLandau: How far does the installation get? | 18:49 |
| penguin42 | (and which install image are you using?) | 18:50 |
| PaddyLandau | I am installing 12.10 alpha. It is only a minor problem. | 18:55 |
| PaddyLandau | Cosmetic, not a show-stopper. | 18:55 |
| PaddyLandau | The image is the 64-bit standard desktop. | 18:55 |
| penguin42 | ok, cool, then I'd probably do it after installation, just do an ubuntu-bug ubiquity | 18:56 |
| PaddyLandau | Thank you. I'll do that. | 18:56 |
| penguin42 | np | 18:56 |
| njin | hallo, can someone verify if bug 1027207 is a dup of bug 1012906 (private) for me ? thanks in advance | 19:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1027207 in ubiquity "Ubiquity 2.11.17 (oem-config) crash in console-setup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027207 | 19:58 |
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